Re: Lankan forces photographed killing 12-yr-old son of LTTE leader in
Do you even know what happened to the soldiers who were accused in the Abu Gharib incident? They were all let off, either discharged, demoted or simply reprimanded. You were saying, good nations...what?
Sri Lanka is not a rogue state.
And then in the last line you will say I am not giving them the clean chit.
Please explain. I have no idea what you mean here.
You were saying LTTE went against Indian Army, even mukti Bahni would have done the same if India might have supported their crackdown. Simple logic not a rocket science to understand. When your army invaded the things were supposed to fire back at us.
No, we have no right or duty to help Sri Lanka. This is the UN's problem. India cannot simply send troops anywhere without prior permission from the UN, and they gave none. Same for refugees. If refugees manage to cross into India on their own, they can be helped. If they are standing on the Lankan shore expecting help, India cannot help.
Sheltering the Tamils was as our duty as sheltering muslims of east Pakistan during 1970s who just 23 years ago butchered Hindus to get an independent nation out of us.
Also this is not how refugee crisis and their management occurs. Go read some book on different refugee crisis. UNO always comes late into the picture first their is uncontrolled movement of refugees and then they are absorbed by generous neighbouring state who are bound by international laws they undersign to give them shelter and refuge. With SL Tamils's case the sea was the physical boundary and then Tamils were not allowed to enter India because Indian navy subservient of GoI was blocking the sea. What happened has been described by many as Sri Lankan killing field.
Either you preach me lessons of Realpolitik or make it clear your will restrain your self not to preach me rationality based on morality. I understand both BTW.
Please make your stand clear. Do you want India to invade Sri Lanka for no reason or do you want India to do something else? Please keep in mind that the persecution of Sri Lankan Tamils have nothing to do with India.
I don't need to clear my stand I am clear enough to make people understand what I have been saying, it is me asking you a question if you are preaching Realpolitic or morality ? In both the cases you are not backed by deeds of GoI since history of start of Civil war of SL regardless for how much spin you can give to your words.
Yes, the govt is to blame. But not the central govt, the state govt. They are the ones inciting the masses.
There are a lot of Tibetans,
with citizenship, in India who have been begging India for help in freeing Tibet. But India has nothing to do with Tibet either.
So, if India does not go to war over Tibet, why would India go to war over Lankan Tamils. I repeat again, who are they to us?
You a haven't understood my point, It is central govt. who make decision on national security and foreign policy. People accepted Tashkent agreement of 1965, will accept any agreement of J&K, people need excuses endorsed by central government and then they all will side with GoI.
if any good day GoI decides to help SL Tamils in distress they will do it without thinking twice what other sane minds ('jara hat ke, zara bach ke' types) have to say.
East Pakistan crisis is as equivalent as Civil War in SL was. Indira Gandhi was right on the money to help Tamils get the justice and was aware how Sinhalese would bite India's back well noted during 1971 war. But then fools like Rajiv Gandhi screwed that tempo big time then what happened next was history for all naysayers to giving it a spin of some rag tag wisdom prevailed. ''jo hota ahai achey ke liye hota hai'' isn't it ?
The crackdown in Bangladesh was a direct problem for us. Apart from the massive problems of the exodus of refugees, East Pakistan's volatility was also affecting anti-India elements within India. The refugee and human rights violation was only an excuse, we invaded East Pakistan to secure our own borders. Otherwise, we don't give two hoots about them either.
Yes, excuse is all I am talking about. Excuse is good thing you used it once you could have used it again.
You could have secured the borders by checking the obvious entry points of East Pakistan, heck you had trains for east Pakistanis to enter India , don't you ?
Sri Lanka poses no threat to the Union of India.
Same can be said about West Pakistanis, after 1965 battering they were numb for eternity all time busy with their own internal power plays, whatever they were doing to east Pakistanis was their internal problem.
India has always fought wars with a purpose, none had anything to do with human rights or protecting some ethnic tribe. India had no issues bringing down Assamese terrorists in the NE or Punjabis fighting for Khalistan.
Yes I know, don't forget to mention Indira Gandhi's support to SL Tamils.
She was failed by his stupid son who even made political crisis worst and then escalated in Kashmir which lead to its tagging with civil war in Sri Lanka. Like
@Yusuf; has stated few post above.
I don't know what you are referring to. If you are talking about IPKF, then India currently cannot run any kind of investigations anywhere in Sri Lanka. Do you think the US ever tried investigations in Vietnam or Korea after their loss? Heck they didn't even touch Cuba after the Bay of Pigs incident.
India can run investigation to find out the real reason behind death of Indian soldiers in Sri Lanka. No investigation has been done all we know is govt. lackeys throwing allegations on LTTE but not SL government who wanted us to be kicked out fast and bleed.
Nope. I am not supporting Sri Lanka in my posts. I obviously have no love for the LTTE either. I am neutral in this subject and would treat it the same way as I would with regard to Palestinians or Kurdish.
I am neither a Tamilian who would shout himself hoarse over war atrocities in Lanka nor am I a Muslim fanatic who would sit half the world away and shout about freeing Palestine. I am an Indian and a neutral. My most important worries are the Naxal issue, Kashmir issue and the NE issue in this order when it comes to our internal security. Since I am Indian, I have Indian issues to worry about. I know very well that these issues have the highest chance of getting me in a fix, not Sri Lanka or Palestine.
US has a lot of power and influence, they have invoked and slapped human right charges on Lanka. UN will follow through with diplomatic maneuvers once the fighting settles down. Let them handle it. We can follow up with humanitarian assistance as we are currently doing in Iraq and Afghanistan. That's when we can make our move, if we have planned any.
In today's world, Sri Lanka will have no kahoonies to start a new apartheid system. It may take at least 50 years but the Tamils will eventually be integrated with the Sinhalese. We can simply hope for the best.
I gotta go I will answer rest soon. BTW I am a punjabi, what happens in TN and SL hardy effects me.
