La Présidentielle 2017: The French Presidential Election Megathread

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  1. Nicky G

    Nicky G Senior Member Senior Member

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    As expected, opponents are calling for consolidation behind Macron. Macron will destroy Le Pen.

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    The European project lives on. This will make Brexit harder for UK.
     
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    I would like Le Pen to win just for the sake of pure entertainment. No candidate could really cure problems of France, just like no president can cure problems of America, but it's very satisfying to see tears of lefties. The crumbling notions of post WW2 western order is very entertaining.
     
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  3. Villager

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    Polls close, early unofficial results showing Emmanuel Macron and MarineLePen heading to May 7th runoff
     
  4. Villager

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    That's going to be next France president. Forget Le Pen now.
     
  5. indiandefencefan

    indiandefencefan Regular Member

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    From Guardian

    The French prime minister, Bernard Cazeneuve, has joined his Socialist party’s defeated candidate, Benoît Hamon, in urging the party’s voters to support Emmanuel Macron in the second round.

    I solemnly call for a vote for Emmanuel Macron in the second round in order to beat the Front National and obstruct the disastrous project of Marine Le Pen that would take France backwards and divide the French people.

    French parties rallying behind Macron LePen's future looking bleak. We'll have to wait and see.
     
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  6. Razor

    Razor STABLE GENIUS Moderator

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    He kinda looks like a bond villain.

    /jk
     
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  7. aditya10r

    aditya10r Mera Bharat mahan Senior Member

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    Right wing all the way.......

    Le pen will win............

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  8. Razor

    Razor STABLE GENIUS Moderator

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    How???

    It looks like Macron will win.

    Marine le Pen would have been more fun, like funny guy Trump.
    This Macron guy looks like the same old medicine.

    But frankly I don't really care though.
     
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    aditya10r Mera Bharat mahan Senior Member

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    If you ask me .........
    Honestly I don't care about France at all.........
    All the European countries except Russia and Baltic+Balkans are the same.......
    Economy drowning in gutter,high unemployment, illegal immigrants and lot more and not to forget the terror attacks..........
     
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  10. Villager

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    Macron looks far more genuine compared to Le Pen.

    Quite an achievement for Macron, someone who created his party just last September and now on the way to become President of France who has gathered much support from everywhere over his promises of boosting the economy and improved security. I don't expect Le Pen to win who is simply in news over her anti-immigration rhetorics.
     
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    i wonder if french votes will also be split like 51-49, which seems to happening a lot since brexit.

    on the point of who will win, much can happen between now and the next round.
    There will be atleast one more tango attack in france before round 2.
     
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  12. Razor

    Razor STABLE GENIUS Moderator

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    In the Baltics/Balkans and Russia also the economy is not very shiny.
    If I'm not mistaken Russia is still in (or barely out of) recession, thanks to Uncle Sam :)
     
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    aditya10r Mera Bharat mahan Senior Member

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    Yes they are..........
    Infact all of the world except some countries are in economic gutter.........
    Thank god we are not.................

    I don't think future of developed world is good,and the Europeans and the muricans will be in very deep and dirty pigshit
     
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    Razor STABLE GENIUS Moderator

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    At least???? :shock:
    So confident ???????????????
     
  15. indiandefencefan

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    It's decided

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  16. ezsasa

    ezsasa Senior Member Veteran Member Senior Member

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    My theory is that there are two distinct ways by which radical islamists act, it depends on whether they are in majority or minority in a particular geography. we have to remember that not all muslims are radical islamists.

    when in majority, we see what is happening in pakistan and ISIS controlled areas. they basically steamroll or kill the minority. we all know how they behave.

    when in minority, their sole objective is to create conflict. any military planner knows that these low intensity attacks do not dent any security establishment of any country. real target is muslims in those areas themselves. these low intensity attacks are done to create alienation of muslims in that particular geography, as hatred against the muslims will rise from the local population. once victimhood narrative starts taking shape, islamists will use that anger against the state and use it to strengthen their own islamist movement.

    this is happening all over the place . ex: france , kashmir , israel and many other areas on the map.

    islamists would want RW to win in france, assuming they would go hard against muslims, whether french RW will act against muslims as per islamist expectations is a totally different issue.

    hence there would be atleast one more attack in france before elections, anyways tangos have brought down the expenses for an attack to practically nothing these days. they have turned cars and trucks to weapons.
     
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    A little background info on Marine Le Pen and Emmanuel Macron

    Marine Le Pen, National Front (FN)
    She took over the FN leadership from her father in January 2011 and came third in presidential elections the following year. She brought the party big electoral gains in regional elections in late 2015.

    Opinion polls suggest she is neck and neck with Emmanuel Macron but unlikely to defeat him in the second round.

    The Marine Le Pen story

    In 2010, before being elected leader, Marine Le Pen compared Muslims praying in the street to the German occupation. But since 2011 she has softened her tone and the FN has also tried to build bridges with the Jewish community.

    As the election approached her position hardened again, with a pledge to suspend all legal immigration while new rules are drafted. She also caused outrage by wrongly suggesting that France had no responsibility for the Paris round-up of 13,000 Jews deported in World War Two.

    Hugh Schofield: Is France's National Front leader far-right?

    Marine Le Pen, 48, trained as a lawyer and headed the FN's legal department. After years of fighting and losing French parliamentary elections, she was elected to the European Parliament in 2004 and remains an MEP, representing North-West France.

    She is twice divorced with three children, and lives in the western suburbs of Paris.

    What she wants:

    • Negotiation with Brussels on a new EU, followed by a referendum
    • "Automatic" expulsion of illegal immigrants and legal immigration cut to 10,000 per year following an immediate total moratorium
    • "Extremist" mosques closed and priority to French nationals in social housing
    • Retirement age fixed at 60 and 35-hour week assured
    Emmanuel Macron, En Marche (On the Move)
    At 39, he has a real chance of becoming France's youngest-ever president because polls suggest if he reaches the run-off on 7 May he would defeat Marine Le Pen.

    He is not an MP and has never stood for election before but his political rise has been meteoric.

    A brilliant student who went on to become an investment banker, Emmanuel Macron worked as economic adviser to President Hollande before taking up the post of economy minister in 2014.

    He forged a reputation with his "Macron Law", a controversial reform bill that allowed shops to open more often on Sundays and deregulated some sectors of industry. He championed digital start-ups and prompted a long-distance bus market.

    While a breath of fresh air for France's business community, his policies aroused opposition among the left of the governing Socialists.

    But when he set up En Marche as "neither left nor right" in April 2016, his position in the Socialist government became increasingly untenable and he resigned before launching a presidential bid. He has attracted the support of veteran moderate François Bayrou as well as Socialist ex-Prime Minister Manuel Valls.

    Mr Macron is married to his former French teacher Brigitte Trogneux, 20 years his senior, and has seven step-grandchildren.

    What he wants:

    • €50bn (£43bn; $53bn) public investment plan to cover job-training, exit from coal and shift to renewable energy, infrastructure and modernisation
    • Reimbursement of full cost of glasses, dentures and hearing aids
    • Big cut in corporation tax and more leeway for companies to renegotiate 35-hour week
    • Cut in jobless rate to 7% (now 9.7%)
    • Ban on mobile phone use in schools for under-15s and a €500 culture pass for 18 year olds
    Emmanuel Macron's meteoric rise

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-38220690

    All opinion polls were suggesting Macron would be winning comfortablely if he reaches second round. Those defeated have endorsed their support to Macron.
     
  18. Razor

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    Insightful analysis. Thanks.........................
     
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  20. Tshering22

    Tshering22 Sikkimese Saber Senior Member

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    I am hopeful for Le Pen. She seems to be really hostile to the Eurabians.
     

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