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https://www.latribune.fr/entreprise...087.html#xtor=EPR-2-[l-actu-du-jour]-20190607
"Macron en super vendeur
C'était au dernier jour de sa visite présidentielle en novembre 2017 aux Emirats Arabes Unis, que le Chef de l'Etat Emmanuel Macron avait indiqué lors d'une conférence de presse, la volonté d'Abu Dhabi d'acquérir deux corvettes françaisesassorties de deux options. Une annonce qui intervenait après une série d'entretiens avec le prince héritier d'Abu Dhabi et commandant en chef adjoint des forces armées des Emirats, Mohammed ben Zayed al-Nahyane. Emmanuel Macron n'a alors donné aucun détail sur l'accord conclu avec les EAU pour la fourniture de ces navires de surveillance."
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It's a complete BS.
You are far too away of France to understand french election and to express such an opinion.
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That deal was started by Hollande and made in 2017. Macron didn't even get our missile package put on it. The average Hollande deal was that plus an extra zero on the end.
MBDA Developing New Version Of Mica ‘Silent Killer’ Air-to-Air Missile
France’s F4 upgrade of the Dassault Rafalemay represent the first steppingstone toward readying the fighter for the information age, but it also will pave the way for a new primary weapon.
The MBDA Mica NG (New Generation) is a radically reengineered version of the legacy Mica missile, which was developed in the 1980s and ’90s for the Rafale family as its air-to-air weapon.
Mica NG is planned to enter service as in 2026 on the Rafale
Missile HUMS will enable on-condition maintenance and reduced through-life cost
The Mica was built upon France’s extensive experience in developing air-to-air weapons for its home-grown combat aircraft through iterations of the Magic family of infrared (IR)-guided missiles and the R.530 family of semiactive radar-guided missiles.
The Mica replaced both of those weapons with a family of two missiles that used the same airframe but different seekers. It also has evolved into a ground- and ship-launched air defense weapon. Overall, 5,000 missiles have been produced, of which 3,500 have been exported.
“France adopted a double-duality approach with Mica,” say senior MBDA officials working on the program. Company policy prevents them from being named. “We are using a radar and IR seeker, but the missile is capable of engaging at short range and beyond visual range in one weapon.”
By comparison, the U.S. uses the AIM-9 Sidewinder and AIM-120 Amraam—two different missiles for two different roles.
The new Mica NG uses the same body as the legacy weapon to retain the same aerodynamic attributes. It is a very different missile under the skin however. Credit: MBDA
Officials say the weapon has earned the epithet “the silent killer” because it can operate passively, going active close to its target and allowing little time for effective countermeasures.
Over the years, the legacy Mica has undergone two significant upgrades. The most recent one saw the addition of modifications to enable vertical launch, but the NG version will be the most substantial upgrade yet, boosting range and lethality. Like its predecessor, the Mica NG again will come in two versions: one with an IR seeker, the other with an RF seeker.
Externally, the weapon will be virtually indistinguishable from the legacy model. This is largely driven by the need to maintain the weapon’s aerodynamic profile, center of gravity and weight, and reducing the need for additional integration work onto the fighter.
“We explored a number of different concepts—larger, smaller, longer missiles with different seekers—but the objective was the easiest possible integration,” says a company official close to the program. “New missiles are costly to integrate on modern fighters, so the best option was to keep the same envelope.”
Key to the Mica NG’s performance is a new bipulse motor developed by Roxel. It provides the weapon with up to 30% more range, reduces its time of flight and boosts power when dealing with highly maneuvering targets.
“We can switch on the second burst whenever we want to. . . . It depends on the type of threat,” the company official says.
The size of the rocket motor means reduced volume for the rest of the missile’s components, with the warhead, seeker and fuze squeezed down the front, and the weapon’s computer and battery fitted at the rear. On the radar-guided version, MBDA is using a Thales-developed active, electronically scanned array, which the company says is better at coping with countermeasures. The IR version with its Safran seeker features an increased field of view and greater sensitivity.
The Rafale also is able to use the IR seekers fitted to the Mica as additional sensors linked into the aircraft’s self-defense systems. Like its predecessor, the Mica NG retains thrust-vectoring and the ability to lock onto its target before and after launch.
Although MBDA received its first contracts for the development of the missile last November, the company has been undertaking studies for de-risking and technology maturation since 2007. Since the program launch, the company has completed the preliminary design review, and the first firings are planned for 2022 with launch from a Rafale. Service entry is planned for 2026. France is planning to purchase 567 missiles.
The NG version is expected to be compatible with Rafales in the F3R and F4 configurations. It is possible the weapon may be featured on early versions of the Franco-German Next-Generation Fighter and its associated Future Combat Air System, although MBDA is proposing a new generation of weapons for that platform.
MBDA also is refurbishing 300 legacy Micas for use on platforms such as the DassaultMirage 2000D, which is being upgraded to serve alongside the Rafale until the end of the 2020s.
The Mica NG is planned to be free from U.S. International Traffic in Arms Regulations, but it will not be entirely French either. MBDA’s development of national centers of excellence for key missile components means the Mica NG’s actuators and data link will be made in the UK. MBDA also is targeting a lower acquisition expense than for the legacy version as well as reduced through-life costs driven via use of an onboard health-and-usage monitoring system to measure on-wing carriage life and other data. The manufacturer aims to be able to offer on-condition maintenance for the missiles.
The company is optimistic for Mica-NG sales, particularly with recent overseas exports of the Rafale.
France’s F4 upgrade of the Dassault Rafalemay represent the first steppingstone toward readying the fighter for the information age, but it also will pave the way for a new primary weapon.
The MBDA Mica NG (New Generation) is a radically reengineered version of the legacy Mica missile, which was developed in the 1980s and ’90s for the Rafale family as its air-to-air weapon.
Mica NG is planned to enter service as in 2026 on the Rafale
Missile HUMS will enable on-condition maintenance and reduced through-life cost
The Mica was built upon France’s extensive experience in developing air-to-air weapons for its home-grown combat aircraft through iterations of the Magic family of infrared (IR)-guided missiles and the R.530 family of semiactive radar-guided missiles.
The Mica replaced both of those weapons with a family of two missiles that used the same airframe but different seekers. It also has evolved into a ground- and ship-launched air defense weapon. Overall, 5,000 missiles have been produced, of which 3,500 have been exported.
“France adopted a double-duality approach with Mica,” say senior MBDA officials working on the program. Company policy prevents them from being named. “We are using a radar and IR seeker, but the missile is capable of engaging at short range and beyond visual range in one weapon.”
By comparison, the U.S. uses the AIM-9 Sidewinder and AIM-120 Amraam—two different missiles for two different roles.
The new Mica NG uses the same body as the legacy weapon to retain the same aerodynamic attributes. It is a very different missile under the skin however. Credit: MBDA
Officials say the weapon has earned the epithet “the silent killer” because it can operate passively, going active close to its target and allowing little time for effective countermeasures.
Over the years, the legacy Mica has undergone two significant upgrades. The most recent one saw the addition of modifications to enable vertical launch, but the NG version will be the most substantial upgrade yet, boosting range and lethality. Like its predecessor, the Mica NG again will come in two versions: one with an IR seeker, the other with an RF seeker.
Externally, the weapon will be virtually indistinguishable from the legacy model. This is largely driven by the need to maintain the weapon’s aerodynamic profile, center of gravity and weight, and reducing the need for additional integration work onto the fighter.
“We explored a number of different concepts—larger, smaller, longer missiles with different seekers—but the objective was the easiest possible integration,” says a company official close to the program. “New missiles are costly to integrate on modern fighters, so the best option was to keep the same envelope.”
Key to the Mica NG’s performance is a new bipulse motor developed by Roxel. It provides the weapon with up to 30% more range, reduces its time of flight and boosts power when dealing with highly maneuvering targets.
“We can switch on the second burst whenever we want to. . . . It depends on the type of threat,” the company official says.
The size of the rocket motor means reduced volume for the rest of the missile’s components, with the warhead, seeker and fuze squeezed down the front, and the weapon’s computer and battery fitted at the rear. On the radar-guided version, MBDA is using a Thales-developed active, electronically scanned array, which the company says is better at coping with countermeasures. The IR version with its Safran seeker features an increased field of view and greater sensitivity.
The Rafale also is able to use the IR seekers fitted to the Mica as additional sensors linked into the aircraft’s self-defense systems. Like its predecessor, the Mica NG retains thrust-vectoring and the ability to lock onto its target before and after launch.
Although MBDA received its first contracts for the development of the missile last November, the company has been undertaking studies for de-risking and technology maturation since 2007. Since the program launch, the company has completed the preliminary design review, and the first firings are planned for 2022 with launch from a Rafale. Service entry is planned for 2026. France is planning to purchase 567 missiles.
The NG version is expected to be compatible with Rafales in the F3R and F4 configurations. It is possible the weapon may be featured on early versions of the Franco-German Next-Generation Fighter and its associated Future Combat Air System, although MBDA is proposing a new generation of weapons for that platform.
MBDA also is refurbishing 300 legacy Micas for use on platforms such as the DassaultMirage 2000D, which is being upgraded to serve alongside the Rafale until the end of the 2020s.
The Mica NG is planned to be free from U.S. International Traffic in Arms Regulations, but it will not be entirely French either. MBDA’s development of national centers of excellence for key missile components means the Mica NG’s actuators and data link will be made in the UK. MBDA also is targeting a lower acquisition expense than for the legacy version as well as reduced through-life costs driven via use of an onboard health-and-usage monitoring system to measure on-wing carriage life and other data. The manufacturer aims to be able to offer on-condition maintenance for the missiles.
The company is optimistic for Mica-NG sales, particularly with recent overseas exports of the Rafale.
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#Dassault Aviation likely to start making Rafale parts in India this year for global clients
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French defence major Dassault Aviation is likely to start manufacturing parts of the Rafale fighter jets at its India facility this year, with the wares destined for global customers, ThePrint has learnt.
The Indian facility, a joint venture with Anil Ambani’s Reliance Defence, is located in Nagpur. According to industry sources, the French firm has already carried out a test production of certain parts that could be manufactured here. A formal announcement to this effect, they said, could come in September, when the first of the 36 Rafale ordered by the Indian Air Force are handed over in France.
The Nagpur facility of Dassault Reliance Aerospace Limited (DRAL) is currently making cockpits for the French manufacturer’s Falcon business jets, besides other parts. It is being used as a “test bed” for the possible manufacturing of fighter jet parts.
The industry sources told ThePrint that the plan was to start with smaller parts like the undercarriage door, before going on to bigger ones.
#U_TURN
Reports of the Nagpur facility churning out fighter jet parts come months after Dassault Aviation CEO Eric Trappier said the company had no plans to manufacture Rafale parts in the country if India capped its order at 36 jets.
When the first Falcon 2000 cockpit front section manufactured at Nagpur was ready to be handed over to Dassault this February, the company said the “achievement illustrates Dassault Aviation’s determination to build up an Indian aerospace manufacturing eco-system, matching the highest standards in this field and positioning India as an international reference in the global aerospace market”.
Dassault and Reliance announced their joint venture and the creation of DRAL on 3 October 2016, barely two weeks after India signed a 7.878 billion-euro deal for 36 Rafale jets in a flyaway condition. The joint venture plans to recruit and train 650 employees by 2022, with the eventual aim being the rollout of a complete Falcon from Nagpur.
The DRAL facility was inaugurated in October 2017, in the presence of both Trappier and Ambani.
The joint venture has been in the eye of a storm over the opposition’s allegations that the Narendra Modi government had shown undue favour to get Dassault Aviation to pick Reliance Defence as an offsets partner. The government was given a clean chit on the deal by the Supreme Court in December last year, but the top court is currently hearing a review petition against the order.
.https://www.facebook.com/pg/TeamAMCA/photos/?ref=page_internal
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French defence major Dassault Aviation is likely to start manufacturing parts of the Rafale fighter jets at its India facility this year, with the wares destined for global customers, ThePrint has learnt.
The Indian facility, a joint venture with Anil Ambani’s Reliance Defence, is located in Nagpur. According to industry sources, the French firm has already carried out a test production of certain parts that could be manufactured here. A formal announcement to this effect, they said, could come in September, when the first of the 36 Rafale ordered by the Indian Air Force are handed over in France.
The Nagpur facility of Dassault Reliance Aerospace Limited (DRAL) is currently making cockpits for the French manufacturer’s Falcon business jets, besides other parts. It is being used as a “test bed” for the possible manufacturing of fighter jet parts.
The industry sources told ThePrint that the plan was to start with smaller parts like the undercarriage door, before going on to bigger ones.
#U_TURN
Reports of the Nagpur facility churning out fighter jet parts come months after Dassault Aviation CEO Eric Trappier said the company had no plans to manufacture Rafale parts in the country if India capped its order at 36 jets.
When the first Falcon 2000 cockpit front section manufactured at Nagpur was ready to be handed over to Dassault this February, the company said the “achievement illustrates Dassault Aviation’s determination to build up an Indian aerospace manufacturing eco-system, matching the highest standards in this field and positioning India as an international reference in the global aerospace market”.
Dassault and Reliance announced their joint venture and the creation of DRAL on 3 October 2016, barely two weeks after India signed a 7.878 billion-euro deal for 36 Rafale jets in a flyaway condition. The joint venture plans to recruit and train 650 employees by 2022, with the eventual aim being the rollout of a complete Falcon from Nagpur.
The DRAL facility was inaugurated in October 2017, in the presence of both Trappier and Ambani.
The joint venture has been in the eye of a storm over the opposition’s allegations that the Narendra Modi government had shown undue favour to get Dassault Aviation to pick Reliance Defence as an offsets partner. The government was given a clean chit on the deal by the Supreme Court in December last year, but the top court is currently hearing a review petition against the order.
.https://www.facebook.com/pg/TeamAMCA/photos/?ref=page_internal
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DRAL Reliance Defence going to manufacture Rafale parts for foreign countries in India. If Rafale win contract DRAL Reliance Defence will manufacture Rafale fighter.
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In 3 months IAF to get 36 Rafael fighters.
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3 years u mean?i heard one Rafale per month
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All that explanation is not required ,one can simply state Dual PULSE ROCKET MOTOR.MBDA Developing New Version Of Mica ‘Silent Killer’ Air-to-Air Missile
France’s F4 upgrade of the Dassault Rafalemay represent the first steppingstone toward readying the fighter for the information age, but it also will pave the way for a new primary weapon.
The MBDA Mica NG (New Generation) is a radically reengineered version of the legacy Mica missile, which was developed in the 1980s and ’90s for the Rafale family as its air-to-air weapon.
Mica NG is planned to enter service as in 2026 on the Rafale
Missile HUMS will enable on-condition maintenance and reduced through-life cost
The Mica was built upon France’s extensive experience in developing air-to-air weapons for its home-grown combat aircraft through iterations of the Magic family of infrared (IR)-guided missiles and the R.530 family of semiactive radar-guided missiles.
The Mica replaced both of those weapons with a family of two missiles that used the same airframe but different seekers. It also has evolved into a ground- and ship-launched air defense weapon. Overall, 5,000 missiles have been produced, of which 3,500 have been exported.
“France adopted a double-duality approach with Mica,” say senior MBDA officials working on the program. Company policy prevents them from being named. “We are using a radar and IR seeker, but the missile is capable of engaging at short range and beyond visual range in one weapon.”
By comparison, the U.S. uses the AIM-9 Sidewinder and AIM-120 Amraam—two different missiles for two different roles.
The new Mica NG uses the same body as the legacy weapon to retain the same aerodynamic attributes. It is a very different missile under the skin however. Credit: MBDA
Officials say the weapon has earned the epithet “the silent killer” because it can operate passively, going active close to its target and allowing little time for effective countermeasures.
Over the years, the legacy Mica has undergone two significant upgrades. The most recent one saw the addition of modifications to enable vertical launch, but the NG version will be the most substantial upgrade yet, boosting range and lethality. Like its predecessor, the Mica NG again will come in two versions: one with an IR seeker, the other with an RF seeker.
Externally, the weapon will be virtually indistinguishable from the legacy model. This is largely driven by the need to maintain the weapon’s aerodynamic profile, center of gravity and weight, and reducing the need for additional integration work onto the fighter.
“We explored a number of different concepts—larger, smaller, longer missiles with different seekers—but the objective was the easiest possible integration,” says a company official close to the program. “New missiles are costly to integrate on modern fighters, so the best option was to keep the same envelope.”
Key to the Mica NG’s performance is a new bipulse motor developed by Roxel. It provides the weapon with up to 30% more range, reduces its time of flight and boosts power when dealing with highly maneuvering targets.
“We can switch on the second burst whenever we want to. . . . It depends on the type of threat,” the company official says.
The size of the rocket motor means reduced volume for the rest of the missile’s components, with the warhead, seeker and fuze squeezed down the front, and the weapon’s computer and battery fitted at the rear. On the radar-guided version, MBDA is using a Thales-developed active, electronically scanned array, which the company says is better at coping with countermeasures. The IR version with its Safran seeker features an increased field of view and greater sensitivity.
The Rafale also is able to use the IR seekers fitted to the Mica as additional sensors linked into the aircraft’s self-defense systems. Like its predecessor, the Mica NG retains thrust-vectoring and the ability to lock onto its target before and after launch.
Although MBDA received its first contracts for the development of the missile last November, the company has been undertaking studies for de-risking and technology maturation since 2007. Since the program launch, the company has completed the preliminary design review, and the first firings are planned for 2022 with launch from a Rafale. Service entry is planned for 2026. France is planning to purchase 567 missiles.
The NG version is expected to be compatible with Rafales in the F3R and F4 configurations. It is possible the weapon may be featured on early versions of the Franco-German Next-Generation Fighter and its associated Future Combat Air System, although MBDA is proposing a new generation of weapons for that platform.
MBDA also is refurbishing 300 legacy Micas for use on platforms such as the DassaultMirage 2000D, which is being upgraded to serve alongside the Rafale until the end of the 2020s.
The Mica NG is planned to be free from U.S. International Traffic in Arms Regulations, but it will not be entirely French either. MBDA’s development of national centers of excellence for key missile components means the Mica NG’s actuators and data link will be made in the UK. MBDA also is targeting a lower acquisition expense than for the legacy version as well as reduced through-life costs driven via use of an onboard health-and-usage monitoring system to measure on-wing carriage life and other data. The manufacturer aims to be able to offer on-condition maintenance for the missiles.
The company is optimistic for Mica-NG sales, particularly with recent overseas exports of the Rafale.
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First Rafale fighter will arrive in September 2019 and remaining Rafale will be delivered by 2023.
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add : AESA seeker ....
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The first delivery is a batch of four. They will not be sent one at a time and it will be completed by 2022. At which time the AdA will resume deliveries for France which have been delayed to complete export orders on time.
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Now i cant edit the comment ..............
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No Data Stolen From IAF’s Paris Office Handling Rafale Jets: Report
The three-member team had left for Paris soon after the reports about a break-in on a weekend were received by the IAF. The team was sent to France to probe if any documents were stolen or copied during the break-in into its Rafale Project management team office. The Defence Ministry has also been informed that there was no data theft from the IAF office during the break in.
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/no-...is-office-handling-rafale-jets-report-2061055
The three-member team had left for Paris soon after the reports about a break-in on a weekend were received by the IAF. The team was sent to France to probe if any documents were stolen or copied during the break-in into its Rafale Project management team office. The Defence Ministry has also been informed that there was no data theft from the IAF office during the break in.
https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/no-...is-office-handling-rafale-jets-report-2061055
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No data stolen from Rafale office in France: IAF
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...afale-office-in-france-iaf-1558185-2019-06-28
https://www.indiatoday.in/india/sto...afale-office-in-france-iaf-1558185-2019-06-28
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https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ia-next-may/articleshow/70033753.cms?from=mdr
IAF to get Rafale fighter jets in September, flight to India next May
Rafale jets to be flown in France for at least 1,500 hours as part of the testing process.
IAF to get Rafale fighter jets in September, flight to India next May
Rafale jets to be flown in France for at least 1,500 hours as part of the testing process.
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Morr Rafales will be ordered i guess , 4 more squadrons will take the tally to 100https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ia-next-may/articleshow/70033753.cms?from=mdr
IAF to get Rafale fighter jets in September, flight to India next May
Rafale jets to be flown in France for at least 1,500 hours as part of the testing process.
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#BigNews IAF to get Rafale fighter jets in September, flight to India next May
India will get its first Rafale fighter jets in September this year with a ceremony being planned in France to officially hand over the cutting edge combat jets to the air force. The modern fighters — to be armed with the SCALP ground attack missiles that have a range well over 560 km — will be flown by Indianpilots in France for at least 1,500 hours as part of the testing and acceptance process.
The first batch of four combat jets is expected to be ferried to India by May next year and will form the first squadron of Rafale fighters that will be deployed at the Ambala airbase that is positioned for action along the Western border with Pakistan. The 17 Squadron is expected to be the first to receive the jets.
Indian pilots will undergo extensive training on the jets in France as part of the contract and will initially be given lessons on simulators for the full range of missions planned with the fleet. While Indian teams are already in France to oversee the project, Indian pilots have been getting extensive exposure to Rafale characteristics at bilateral air combat drills.
At present, an Indian air force contingent that includes four Su 30 MKI fighters are at Mont De Marsan in southwest France for the latest edition of the Garuda air exercise. France is fielding its Rafale and Mirage fighters for the war game and pilots are expected to be exchanged for the combat drills planned.
The Navy went through similar drills in May this year with the marine version of the Rafale during the Varuna series of exercises that took place in the Arabian Sea. The Navy’s MiG 29K fighters went up against French Rafale’s in one of the most complex bilateral exercises conducted between the two sides.
Senior air force officers say that the performance of the Rafale — specially the exceptional Meteor missile that out ranges every Pakistani air force jet and the SCALP that can virtually cover every inch of the neighbouring nation — makes a case for inducting the fighters in greater numbers.
https://www.facebook.com/pg/TeamAMCA/photos/?ref=page_internal
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India will get its first Rafale fighter jets in September this year with a ceremony being planned in France to officially hand over the cutting edge combat jets to the air force. The modern fighters — to be armed with the SCALP ground attack missiles that have a range well over 560 km — will be flown by Indianpilots in France for at least 1,500 hours as part of the testing and acceptance process.
The first batch of four combat jets is expected to be ferried to India by May next year and will form the first squadron of Rafale fighters that will be deployed at the Ambala airbase that is positioned for action along the Western border with Pakistan. The 17 Squadron is expected to be the first to receive the jets.
Indian pilots will undergo extensive training on the jets in France as part of the contract and will initially be given lessons on simulators for the full range of missions planned with the fleet. While Indian teams are already in France to oversee the project, Indian pilots have been getting extensive exposure to Rafale characteristics at bilateral air combat drills.
At present, an Indian air force contingent that includes four Su 30 MKI fighters are at Mont De Marsan in southwest France for the latest edition of the Garuda air exercise. France is fielding its Rafale and Mirage fighters for the war game and pilots are expected to be exchanged for the combat drills planned.
The Navy went through similar drills in May this year with the marine version of the Rafale during the Varuna series of exercises that took place in the Arabian Sea. The Navy’s MiG 29K fighters went up against French Rafale’s in one of the most complex bilateral exercises conducted between the two sides.
Senior air force officers say that the performance of the Rafale — specially the exceptional Meteor missile that out ranges every Pakistani air force jet and the SCALP that can virtually cover every inch of the neighbouring nation — makes a case for inducting the fighters in greater numbers.
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72 more? hummm....
I think another batch of 36 and/or the 114 MMRCA2, for which the Rafale is tailored.
MMRCA2 : F35 is out because non compatible with S400.
SH18.... why not, but with a small offset (Trump want jobs in America, not in India). Commonality of the F404 with Tejas is an asset, but Kaveri is not really dead....
Russian products : No. Too much Su30 in the IAF to buy russian (next step will be Su57).
Gripen E : in frontal opposition with Tejas, and 80% of the Rafale price for just 60% of the effectivity.
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