Kissinger: China won't be next superpower

[LETHALFORCE]

why would China have to match NATO tech they can develop their own different tech?? If they are spending that much they can buy the best scientists worldwide.

 

[Adux]

One cant say Kissinger;s policies are blunders, he did have a great soviet campaign but at the cost something else, just like life

 

[roma]

good topic for a thread

kissigner - a person with great forresight and great strategist

of course he's not gonna get everything 100% right - also try Brezinsky
Ovwerall USA not too keen on giving #1 position away that easily and they have strategies to contain dragon .

point is will india manouvre itself to benefit from the strategic alignment which appear to be in its favour or will silly internal squabbling and in-fighting cause incorrect focus and missing out on all the opportunities

no point blaming USA for theat

 

[cw2005]

I think China is not and will not be a superpower but USA is trying to "make" it one. It has been so lonely to be the only one on top for so long. In case China fails due to its inability to handle her internal problem, then USA would "make" India to be one. That is American.

 

[ace009]

Kissinger was a good politician, but a bad strategist. Kissinger's policies include supporting Pakistan, even when faced with US diplomat's report of genocide (Blood Telegram), support of the Shah's despotic regime in Iran leading to the Islamic Revolution (after Kissinger's time), Helping in the rise of the Baathist's and Saddam in Iraq .
Kissinger was a misguided strongly republican conservative and remains so to this day ...

 

[asianobserve]

If US stayed away from those conflicts other aspiring superpowers would have taken advantaged of all those simmering tensions, because quiet frankly every country wants to play a bigger part in the lives of others, this is a fact. It's either the US lead or do it or other country/countries will do it and relegate the US to the sidelines. That's how international politics operate. Unless of course you're a naive self-righteous my-country-is-the-only-one capable of doing the right thing. BTW, the period in our history that the US has been the unmatched superpower, there has been no dramatic hyper wars and no millions and millions of deaths from these kinds of wars. Why is that? Because a unipolar or bipolar world is better at containing calamitous and all-consuming conflicts than a multipolar one. (The latter is what China, India, Brazil, Iran and the rest of would be "superpowers" want.)

 

[asianobserve]

The above post is in response to this post:

Let US keep its "superpower" title for now and continue sticking his big nose into everyone's affair. US is bankrupting itself with mountain high debt and enormous social and immigration issues. In 25 years or so there might be no country is willing to claim itself as "superpower".

 

[Godless-Kafir]

Today China is an open market largely thanks to Kissinger and Nixon taking the initiative to talk and cool things down! His policy against India was as stupid as it could get and if China did not open its market before India, we would be the ones with all the business flowing in.

 

[ejazr]

Well Kissinger's main FP coup was the reset with China. The US could not have won going against the USSR and China. By removing China out of the orbit of the USSR in 1972, Kissinger mainly set the path on containing the USSR. Later he worked closely with Chinese communist leaders in forming strategies to contain USSR so he did work closely with Chinese leaders and may have an idea of how their thought process works. At least from an American point of view.

 

[nimo_cn]

Funny thing is Chinese never want to be a superpower, the whole idea of China being the next superpower is created and imposed on China by those who are frightened by the rising of China, because it gives them more excuses to bash China, hence contain China.

The fact is we don't give a damn about the so-called superpower, all we want to is to grow, to advance, to prosper, so that when the next world war happens, we are able to protect us from being humiliated and robbed.

 

[redragon]

Chinese is and will continue focusing to make more money, super power or not really no one cares. But I guess by making more and more money, we start to touch somebody else shares of "cheese", generating the unease feeling from the bottom of those guys hearts

 

[ace009]

Funny thing is Chinese never want to be a superpower, the whole idea of China being the next superpower is created and imposed on China by those who are frightened by the rising of China, because it gives them more excuses to bash China, hence contain China.

The fact is we don't give a damn about the so-called superpower, all we want to is to grow, to advance, to prosper, so that when the next world war happens, we are able to protect us from being humiliated and robbed.

I am pretty sure in China the word "Superpower" mean something different or is not present at all. Whether China declares to be a "Superpower" or not is irrelevant. China has been working with and supporting other countries (and some of the worst ones) to increase it's influence in the world. It has been building it's military and picking diplomatic fights with it's neighbors. China is also taking stands in the UN that go against the other "powers" like USA, EU and Russia. All this pretty much points to the fact that China is trying to become a powercenter in the world.

 

[LurkerBaba]

Funny thing is Chinese never want to be a superpower, the whole idea of China being the next superpower is created and imposed on China by those who are frightened by the rising of China, because it gives them more excuses to bash China, hence contain China.

Ofcourse not ! All China wants is to become the center of heaven

 

[Tshering22]

I won't be trusting a paranoid idiot like Kissinger whose theories are nothing but garbage. All his predictions against India of Cold War failed. So have most of his other predictions.

 

[debasree]

there will be no superpower in 2025,the world will be dominated by many country,the us economic strength will be shrinked,but the millitary supremacy otherwise will continue for some years ,eventually chinas economy will be much stronger,but millitarily they will still lagging behind,simmilarly many country such as india ,brasil ,sa, russia will be also there.and may be eu also.

 

[mileycyruslove]

Chinese ppl used to consider themselves the central kingdom of heaven because for thousands of years china was blessed to be the dominant power of east asia, that's quite different situation from india which was constantly conquered by some random tribes, and guess what, it's actually not that bad to have a tad of superior complex

 

[cw2005]

Chinese ppl used to consider themselves the central kingdom of heaven because for thousands of years china was blessed to be the dominant power of east asia, that's quite different situation from india which was constantly conquered by some random tribes, and guess what, it's actually not that bad to have a tad of superior complex

Complex has been shifting from superior to inferior several times in Chinese history. The best is don't has any complex at all.

 

[sandeepdg]

Chinese ppl used to consider themselves the central kingdom of heaven because for thousands of years china was blessed to be the dominant power of east asia, that's quite different situation from india which was constantly conquered by some random tribes, and guess what, it's actually not that bad to have a tad of superior complex

Well, on that note, I suppose your superiority complex went down the drain when the imperial Japanese army raped and fucked you around for eight year and wiped out 35 million people in China !

 

[badguy2000]

Well, on that note, I suppose your superiority complex went down the drain when the imperial Japanese army raped and fucked you around for eight year and wiped out 35 million people in China !

however, it rises again with the growing economy power of China...instead, the complex of inferiority among Japanese rise again with the shrinking economy of Japan.....

generally speaking ,the self-confidence of the people always tends to be proportional to the power of their state.

 

[ace009]

Chinese ppl used to consider themselves the central kingdom of heaven because for thousands of years china was blessed to be the dominant power of east asia, that's quite different situation from india which was constantly conquered by some random tribes, and guess what, it's actually not that bad to have a tad of superior complex

Really? I thought the Chinese were ONLY invaded and taken over by external tribes about 10-12 times in their history versus about 70 times by Indians, considering China is about 5000 kms away from the tribal regions of central Asia and India a mere 1000 kms away. The statistics does fit the distance right?
As for the Chinese feeling "superior" - is that why the Han killed all the non-Han Chinese they came in contact with? Is that also why India is so multi-cultural and multi-ethnic and China is so monolithic?