Unfortunately, I'd have to partly agree with you. This government has gone too far to placate an enemy we should be united to destroy. Sometimes makes me wonder if this government is really a government of India or a government of appeasers.Who are we kidding? Ourselves? Do we need further evidence of Pakistan's complicity? What have we done with all the evidence that we have got already except send dossiers upon dossiers to Pakistan that get rejected?
More than the Pakistanis, it is our government that is probably s...ting in the pants with this new angle brought in. This government cannot handle any further evidence because it would mean inventing another reason not to take action against Pakistan.
Just saw the Newshour with the eminent Arnab Goswami making a fool of himself with his Pakistani guests. Why do we bother? Let us just admit that we are spineless folks who can be terrorized, murdered, raped and looted and we are not going to do anything about it.
Can we not. at the very least, break off ties with Pakistan and revoke MFN and ask them to f... off when they beg for power or locomotives? Why do we not remember 26/11??
Debate: Bigger catch than Kasav - 1-The Newshour-TIMESNOW.tv - Latest Breaking News, Big News Stories, News VideosArnab ka video link post karo. I have not seen
So they were 14-15 suckers indeed.A: Tell the boys to give the number of terrorists according to their fancy.
Response: Yes
A: Don't reveal your numbers. Don't say 14 or 15. Say 4, 5 or 6 only
Saudis are proving to be a much better country than Pakis(at least in handing over terrorists) on War Against Terrorism or say War Against Pakistan.ajtr have you read the entire news report? This person the only Indian link to the attack will show how the entire 26/11 attack was funded, operationalised and foot soldiers provided by not some rougue elements in Pakistan, but the Pakistan ISI and Army itself! Hafiz Saeed's involment will be given by an eye witness account.
Saudis helped India nab 26/11 handler Abu Jundal - The Times of India
He also proves the fact that the Pakistani intelligence agencies tried their best to make the Mumbai attacks being a local attack. They falsely made the Paksitani terrorists claim that they are from Hyderabad and call themselves Deccan Mujahideen to create hatred against Hyderabadi Muslims even though there was no Hyd involment there. Just goes to show that they hoped a backlash and revenge attacks in Hyd so that they can later use that as a recruitment tool from affected people there. Makes you wonder if the reason was because they wern't able to get any recruits from Hyd.
This person - Abu Jindal - was caught by Saudi Intelligence and arrived their on a PAKISTANI passport and till the last minute, the GoP was pressurising the Saudi govt. to NOT hand him over to India because he would spill the beans. The Saudis however are no longer willing to play the Pakistani fame and once they got the Indian tipoff and a DNA test confirm based on his family DNA, they deported him to India. I think this clearly shows Pakistani OFFICIAL involvment in the 26/11 attacks.
Without their sponsorship no major attack in India could happen.
See how badly they are brainwashed/self brainwashed they doesn't know anything except Islam!! all these imperialistic thoughts will be washed away when Police will use third degree. What did they teach them and what Kasab puked !!Audio clip of the 26/11 attacks
http://www.thehindu.com/multimedia/archive/01124/26_11_tape_-_Zabiu_1124458a.mp3
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Hindi Transcript
The transcript of the conversation between terrorists at Nariman House and their Pakistani handler Zabiuddin Ansari alias Abu Jundal, during the 26/11 attacks, as recorded by security agencies:
Terrorist (T): Hello.
Abu Jundal (AJ): Salaam alaikum.
T: Wallekum assalam.
AJ: Jo maine julat likhaye the na, uspe kuch yaad hoga na? (The ___ I wrote, do you remember anything of it?)
T: Yaad toh hai, lekin Wassi bhai keh rahe the ke ye Star mediawale the... (I remember, but Wassi bhai was saying that they were Star media people...)
AJ: Udhar ki baatein nahin karna. Lekin Israel ki baatein karni hai... Doosri ye baat hai ke wey poochenge aap kahan par hain. (Don't talk about them/there. But talk about Israel... Also, they may ask you where you are.)
AJ: ...wo poochenge aap kahan ke hai. Kehna main Hyderabad Decccan ka hoon. (They may ask where are you from. Tell them you are from Hyderabad Deccan)...
T: Hyderabad Deccan.
AJ: Hyderabad city ka... aur Chowki areai. (Hyderabad City, Chowki area).
T: Chowki.
AJ: Toli chowki, Toli chowki... Aur phir poochhe toh kehna, mujahideen Hyderabad Deccan se mera talluq hai. (And if they ask, tell them you belong to Mujahideen Hyderabad Deccan.)
T: Theek hai (okay).
AJ: Sangeen se... (From Sangeen).
AJ: Aur agar wey kehte hai ye action kyun ki hai... hum hukumat ki doshi policy, hukumat ki dohri policy, huqumat peeth thapthapati hai aur prashasan sar pe tole maarti hai. (And if they ask why did you commit this act. blame the faulty policy of the government, the dual policy... the government pats you on the back and the administration hits you on the head.)
T: Hukumat ki doshi policy. Hukumat peeth thapthapati hai. (The government's faulty policy. The administration pats on the back...)
AJ: Aur prashasan jo hai, sar par tole maarta hai. (And the administration hits you on the head). Uski taaza misaal Sachar Committee ki sifarishein (The latest example is the Sachar Committee's recommendations)... Jis taraf hukumat ye aeilan karti hai aur dar asal wajah prashasan Muslim yuwakon ko pakad pakad kar giraftar karti hai. (The way the government makes the announcement, and the real reason why the administration arrests the Muslim youth). (Sachar must be beating his head for his name being misused and abusing Congress)
T: Hukumat koi aur insaan karti hai. (Some other people rule).
AJ: Prashasan ka anmal... uska anmal Muslim yuwakon ko giraftar karke deta hai. Saabit karta hai... (The administration's conduct... arresting Muslim youths. It proves)...
AJ: Unka future barbaad karti hai. Unko ye ultimatum de dege... Humara abhi toh trailer hai, abhi asal film toh baaki hai. Hukumat ye jaan le yeh trailer hai, asal film baaqi hai. (Destroys their future. We will give them this ultimatum. This is only a trailer, the real film is yet to play out. The government should know it's only a trailer).
T: Hukumat ye jaan le. Sarkar ye jaan le. Humare toh abhi trailer hai... abhi asal film toh baaqi hai. (The state should know, the government should know. This is our trailer.)
AJ: Yeh toh abhi trailer hai. (This is only a trailer)... Yeh chhota sa udaharan hai... trailer hai. (It is a small example, trailer).
T: Film toh abhi saara pada hai. (The entire film remains).
AJ: Unko kahein ye chhota sa namoona tha. Abhi hukumat ko dekhna hai, aage aur kya kya hota hai. (Tell them it's only a small example. The government is yet to see what happens in the future).
T: Abhi hukumat dekhegi kya hota hai. (The government will see what happens next)...
AJ: Itminaan ke saath bolna, jhagde ke bina ghabrahat, aap apni baat zyada karna hai. Unko sawaal ka mauqa kam dena hai. (Speak at ease, without any fight or fear. You have to talk more. Give them fewer chances of asking questions)
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AJ: Jitne bhi jailon mein musalmaan qaid hain, unko riha kiya jayein...ek number. (All the Muslims in jails should be released, number one.) ( why to release murderers and criminals ?)
T: Saare musalmaan riha. (All Muslims should be released).
AJ: Number 2... Muslim states musalmaanon ki hawaaale kiya jayein. (The Muslim states should be handed over to the Muslims).(Which Muslim state? oh Islamic imperialism ? i don't see any Muslim state in Bharat !)
T: States musalmaan ki hawaale kiya jayein (States should be handed over to the Muslims).
AJ: Number 3, Kashmir se fauj bulayi jayein, unko unka haq diya jayein. Kashmirion ko apna haq diya jayein. (Number three, the forces should be recalled from Kashmir. They should be given their rights. The Kashmiris should be given their rights.)(So that terrorists and Pakis may occupy J&K? )
T: Theek hai. (okay).
AJ: Babri Masjid ki jagah par masjid ka kaam shuru kiya jayein. Us jagah ko musalmaanon ke hawaale kiya jayein. (A mosque should be constructed at the Babri Masjid site. The site should be handed over to the Muslims) (Why should a Hindu temple's place be handed over to Muslims Terrorists ke baap ki jagah hai kya?)
AJ: Israel ka saaath gathbandhan na kiya jayein. (The site should be handed over to the Muslims. There should not be any ties with Israel).(You will teach us ?! )
T: Ji (okay).
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English Translation ...
U: Okay? You tell them you are calling from Nariman Point. You are in Nariman building and you have hostages. And ask them to call you at this number.
Why does Arnab have to speak so much when he does not have anything substantial to add? Why does he not let his more informed guests speak? e.g. when the Pakistanis were talking about Headley being an US national and Aby being India, Arnab was fumbling for words instead of directly passing it on to Maroof. When the other Pakistani clown Kasuri talked about Ghaznavi, Ghauri and Babar and mocked us about them stopping the Taliban without which they would have been in Kolkata, we had little to say. Why do we have to appear so genteel? Why does Times Now have to bring in guests every time just for the sake of appearing balanced?Unfortunately, I'd have to partly agree with you. This government has gone too far to placate an enemy we should be united to destroy. Sometimes makes me wonder if this government is really a government of India or a government of appeasers.
As for that interview you are talking about, you are right. Arnab really made a fool of himself. Did you see Maroof's, KC Singh's and Nikam's reactions? Silence.. That is exactly what we have to do, keep our mouths quiet and let our actions do all the talking. CBM, MFN and Aman-Ki-Tamasha should be thrown down the drain and we must break all diplomatic ties immediately. I would like to say 'war!' but would insist on covert war to bypass American hypocricy.
Is it too much of a coincidence - the Saudi heir apparent Prince Nayef bin Abdulaziz Al Saud passing away last week and Abu Hamza being captured a week later?Saudis are proving to be a much better country than Pakis(at least in handing over terrorists) on War Against Terrorism or say War Against Pakistan.
Don't know... just that Saudi handed over a Paki terrorist even after so much pressure from the Pakis.Is it too much of a coincidence - the Saudi heir apparent Prince Nayef bin Abdulaziz Al Saud passing away last week and Abu Hamza being captured a week later?
Not many people would agree but political support for anti-nationalist thugs would have been less likely if the BJP were in government. Mind you, I am not forgiving the BJP for the utter lack of spine in dealing with Kandahar. The BJP could have brought in a no hostage negotiation policy at least after Kandahar which would have been difficult for any following government to repeal.Nothing shocking in that - Its well known that Dawood Ibrahim get his full political backing from Sharad Pawar's NCP.
If I am not mistaken, Sangeen was the place of recent communal riots in Andhra...AJ: Toli chowki, Toli chowki... Aur phir poochhe toh kehna, mujahideen Hyderabad Deccan se mera talluq hai. (And if they ask, tell them you belong to Mujahideen Hyderabad Deccan.)
T: Theek hai (okay).
AJ: Sangeen se... (From Sangeen).