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India fumes as Pak shrugs off Jundal 'insinuation'

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NEW DELHI: Pakistan on Thursday defiantly pushed aside 26/11 mastermind Zabiuddin Ansari alias Abu Jundal's disclosure about the support of its official agencies for the terror attack, drawing a terse reminder from India that efforts for improved bilateral ties cannot go very far if the perpetrators of the Mumbai carnage remained unpunished. Action against the killers would be the biggest CBM, New Delhi stressed.

Visiting Pakistani foreign secretary Jalil Jilani infuriated the political establishment here when he dismissed as "insinuation" India's concern, based on the revelations made by Jundal, about the complicity of Pakistani state actors in the Mumbai attack. "I would very strongly reject any insinuation of any involvement of any state agency in acts of terrorism in India," Jilani said.

The remark of Jilani, who while posted as acting High Commissioner to India was declared persona non- grata for funding secessionists in Jammu and Kashmir, came at a press conference he addressed along with his Indian counterpart Ranjan Mathai. It was seen as Islamabad's brazen disregard of Jundal's acknowledgment about Pakistan's official agencies, and pointed to the gap between the two countries on New Delhi's concern about terrorism.

According to sources, during his meeting with foreign minister S M Krishna in the evening, Jilani defended the inaction against the choreographers of 26/11 by saying that the judiciary had made it difficult to act without enough evidence.

Addressing the joint press conference, Mathai said that Jundal's statements had aggravated India's worries about terrorism. "The ongoing interrogation of Abu Jundal has now added urgency to this matter," Mathai said . "I emphasized that terrorism is the biggest threat to peace and security in the region and that bringing the guilty to justice in the Mumbai terror attacks would be the biggest confidence-building measure of all," Mathai said briefing reporters of his deliberations with Jilani.

During the talks, Mathai had referred to Union home minister P Chidambaram's statement, based on Jundal's admissions, about the participation of Pakistan's official agencies in the 26/11 plot. The home minister had said that the control room equipped with modern communication facilities from where the masterminds directed Ajmal Kasab and other Mumbai attackers, could not have been set up without the support of official agencies.

Mathai also read out from Jundal's interrogation report pointing to the involvement of Pakistani state actors in the 26/11 conspiracy.

However, this failed to move Jilani out of denial mode. At the press conference, Jilani offered a joint probe into the attacks and to plug any gap in investigations in the "spirit of cooperation''; both offers were rejected by top Indian officials as meaningless gestures. The joint statement issued after the talks, which lasted over two days, made no mention of Mumbai attacks, let alone instil some life into the ongoing Mumbai trial in Pakistan.

The reaction from the political class was immediate and severe. "Rejecting India's contention as insinuation is by no stretch of imagination a constructive approach that can broaden and deepen Indo-Pak relations," said Congress's Manish Tewari. "There is difference of heaven and hell between an insinuation and an averment based on evidence".

Senior BJP leader and former finance minister Yashwant Sinha also attacked Jilani. "He has displayed the typical Pakistani attitude of denying truth and no amount of evidence can satisfy them. They don't understand this language," said Sinha.

While no formal dossier on Jundal was shared with the Pakistanis during the talks between foreign secretaries, Mathai admitted that he did share "some information'' about the Mumbai attack accused recently deported from Saudi Arabia. He said India would continue to pursue the matter with determination to its logical conclusion.

Jilani said Pakistan would investigate whatever evidence India comes up with. While describing terrorism as a common enemy, the Pakistan foreign secretary said neither side was going to benefit by trading blame. "We must take steps now to move from adversarial relations towards a positive narrative,'' he added.

Foreign minister S M Krishna did announce after the talks that he would travel to Pakistan in the first half of September, ahead of the UNGA meet. He was earlier scheduled to travel to Pakistan on July 19, but it was postponed after the announcement of the presidential election on the same day.

The issue of peace and security including CBMs was discussed, as Mathai put it, in a comprehensive manner. Both sides emphasized the need to promote greater trust and mutual understanding through constructive dialogue and to fight and eliminate terrorism. They also had a comprehensive exchange of views on the issue of Jammu & Kashmir and agreed to continue discussions in a purposeful and forward looking manner "with a view to finding a peaceful solution by narrowing divergences and building convergences".

"Both sides underlined the importance of greater people to people contacts and friendly exchanges in building a relationship of trust and friendship between the two countries,'' said Mathai. He described the forward movement on economic and commercial cooperation between India and Pakistan as a welcome development.

India, Pakistan discuss resuming cricket ties

While India and Pakistan on Thursday agreed to increase contact in sports, as mentioned in the joint statement, foreign secretary Ranjan Mathai left it to the cricket boards of the two countries to take a call on resuming cricketing ties. He admitted that such a resumption would involve security issues.

"As for the resumption of cricketing ties, this is really a matter for the Board of Control for Cricket in India (BCCI) and the Pakistan Cricket Board,'' said Mathai.

His counterpart Jalil Jilani said he had put forward certain suggestions for the revival of cricketing ties between the two countries during his meeting with Mathai. ``And I think we will continue with this positive trajectory that we have adopted over the years in moving forward in our relations,'' he added.
 

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Cops rush to Hyderabad, Bangalore and UP as Jundal reveals Lashkar-IM bases

NEW DELHI: In what could turn out to be a serious headache for security agencies, Syed Zabiuddin Ansari alias Abu Jundal has told Delhi Police that Lashkar-e-Taiba has jointly set up bases with Indian Mujahideen all over India for future operations. Jundal has also given important inputs about some "invisible handlers" of Lashkar and IM who played important roles in blasts across the country in the past four years.

Jundal, sources said, also gave the names of various IM terrorists in India and teams have been rushed to Hyderabad and Bangalore to look for some of them. The teams are also on the lookout for IM members in Kolkata, Bihar, Maharashtra and Uttar Pradesh, sources said.

"Jundal's arrest is very important in terms of national security as we have come to know about various plans of Lashkar," a senior officer said, adding that "the names of his India-based associates have surfaced during questioning".

Officials refused to give the names of these operatives, who work for both Lashkar and IM. Officials said Lashkar has provided training to several IM members in the last few years and Riyaz Bhatkal and Iqbal Bhatkal monitored these training programmes.

In the last 15 days, Delhi Police procured call details of four international SIM cards belonging to Jundal through diplomatic channels. Subsequently, it recovered at least nine email IDs and contact list of his mobile phones which has numbers of Lashkar and IM operatives in India, Pakistan and Saudi Arabia and, most importantly, several SMS conversations between him and Lashkar handlers.

Jundal also said that he knew about the planning for Bangalore IISc and Rampur attacks, which were done by Abu Hamza, even though he was not part of it. "While he was in Pakistan for training, he came to know about this plan of attack on scientists in India by Lashkar which was being monitored by Hamza. He was in one of those meetings," a source said. Also, Jundal has given some important inputs about Rampur CRPF camp attack.

In his email conversations, sources said there are names of several places and members who were in touch with him and had to execute some plans for Lashkar. The investigators have also traced the whereabouts of his friend-cum-associate Fayyaz Kagzi, who is said to be hiding in Abu Dhabi.

Cops rush to Hyderabad, Bangalore and UP as Jundal reveals Lashkar-IM bases - The Times of India
 

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Cops at War: The Ansari arrest and India's squabbling police forces
Cops at War | OPEN Magazine

MUMBAI Syed Zabiuddin Ansari alias Abu Jundal, arrested at Delhi airport two weeks ago, was wanted by the police in at least three states—Delhi, Maharashtra and Karnataka—for plotting and executing bomb blasts there. However, now that he has been put behind bars by the Delhi Police, a bitter battle has begun over his custody.

The police forces of these states have been at loggerheads with one another for several years. Not only do they usually fail to share intelligence inputs and other information, cases abound of one trying to botch up the other's operations. In the past, the anti-terrorism squads (ATSs) of Delhi, Maharashtra and Karnataka have fought over fugitives like the Bhatkal trio of Indian Mujahideen operatives: Yasin Bhatkal and the brothers Iqbal and Riyaz Bhatkal. They still do.

The fight over Ansari is the latest flashpoint of an ongoing war between the cops of Maharashtra and Delhi, states that have suffered numerous terror attacks. The Maharashtra ATS, unaware of Saudi Arabia's extradition of the terrorist, had sought custody of Ansari by moving the court of Delhi's Chief Metropolitan Magistrate. With the Delhi Police—which operates under the Centre—opposed to any such transfer, the request was turned down. The Mumbai Police and Mumbai Crime Branch have also been trying to get hold of Ansari at the same court. Not to be left behind, the Pune ATS has also made the same demand (though not in court); Lalbaba Mohammed Sheikh, the man who first identified Ansari's voice on the 26/11 phone recordings, is lodged in Pune's Yerwada Jail, and the city's cops want to pursue their own probe.

However, the Delhi Police, whose custody of Ansari was due to expire on 5 July, seemed set to ask for an extension as Open went to press.

In Mumbai meanwhile, Additional Director General of Police Rakesh Maria, who is the current chief of the Maharashtra ATS, is pushing for quick action on other terror cases. Known as one of India's best investigators, Maria has been in pursuit of Yasin Bhatkal ever since indications were found of his role in a series of explosions as their mastermind.

After Mumbai's 13 July 2011 serial blasts, Maria redoubled his efforts to capture Yasin Bhatkal. Back then, it turns out, the Delhi Police had specific information of his living in a flat— along with two Pakistani associates Tabrez and Barkas—in a building in the central Mumbai locality of Byculla, less than a kilometre from Maria's Nagpada office. The Delhi Police did not relay this information to Mumbai.

So, even as Maria was working hard on plans to arrest Yasin, it appears he and his flatmates managed to slip away to the capital to plant a bomb at Delhi High Court that killed 11 people and injured over 70 on 7 September 2011. If police sources are to be believed, then either Yasin was freely able to travel between the two cities z, or did not leave Mumbai after the 13 July blasts.

It was a couple of months or more after the Delhi High Court attack that the Delhi Police got confirmation of the details of Yasin Bhatkal's Byculla home. It was in Habib Building. Owned by a lady called Rubina Qureshi, it had been taken on rent by the three. Yasin had even paid a security deposit and signed an agreement with the owner, and Tabrez and Barkas had presented PAN cards as proof of identity. Armed with such specifics, the Delhi Police sent a team of its Special Cell over to the area, but did not inform the Maharashtra ATS.

With its headquarters a short distance away, the ATS found out, and Maria ordered his forces to surround Habib Building. With both Delhi and Maharashtra teams at the location, lying in wait for Yasin, an angry confrontation took place between the two. The divide was not lost on Yasin, say Mumbai Police sources. The fugitivewas scheduled to turn up at the house to collect his security deposit, as he had said in a phone conversation (under ATS surveillance) with Qureshi. But he did not. Both teams ended up blaming each other for his getting away.


When Maria was confronted by the media about the Delhi Police's claim that his team had let Yasin escape, Maria had retorted, "Do you think these suspects would come to Mumbai to collect the lease deposit on a flat?"

The Special Cell of the Delhi Police had brought along Mohammed Naqui, a small-time Delhi trader who had helped Yasin rent the Habib Building flat. The Special Cell was depending on Naqui to identify Yasin, since it had no photo of him. Once this information filtered its way to the Maharashtra ATS, it arrested Naqui while he was on a visit to his brother's house in Mumbai Central. Sources say that the Special Cell requested the state ATS to release Naqui, but its pleas went unheeded.

There are other examples of clashes between the two cities' forces. During the 2008 Batla House encounter in Delhi, sources say a Mumbai Police team had reached the location without informing the Delhi Police; the team was on the lookout for Yasin Bhatkal. In all the confusion, both Delhi and Mumbai cops agree, he managed to escape yet again.

There have been a few other points of agreement too between the police forces of these two states. Before Ansari was arrested, for example, the Delhi Police, Maharashtra ATS and Karnataka ATS all firmly believed that the suburban Mumbai train blasts of 7 July 2006, Pune's German Bakery blast of 13 February 2010, Mumbai's serial blasts at Opera House, Zaveri Bazaar and Dadar Kabutarkhana of 13 July 2011, Delhi's High Court blast of 7 September 2011, Delhi's Jama Masjid shootout and blast of 19 September 2010 and Bangalore's twin blasts at Chinnaswamy Stadium on 17 April 2010 were all the handiwork of the Bhatkal trio.

In active operations, however, the police forces remain at odds with one another. After the German Bakery incident, the Maharashtra ATS arrested Yasin Bhatkal's younger brother Abdul Samad Zarar Sidibapa from Bajpe airport in Mangalore without the knowledge of the Karnataka Police. The 23-year-old, touted as a "prize catch" by Maria, was reportedly interrogated for 40 days. At the end of it, the Maharashtra ATS did not find any evidence to link Samad with the blast, and later admitted its error.

In Ansari's case, the Maharashtra ATS is up against not just the Delhi Police, but the National Investigative Agency (NIA) as well. The NIA also wants custody of the latest 'prized catch', and it rushed a team to the man's hometown of Beed without intimating the state ATS (which considers this Maharashtra town part of its turf). There had been friction between the two in the past as well. After Mumbai's serial blasts on 13 July last year, the Maharashtra ATS had refused to cooperate with the NIA, which flew a team down to take charge of the case.

There are divisions even within Mumbai's security set up. Mumbai Crime Branch Chief Himanshu Roy has been exchanging cold vibes with Maria, and the two have tried to wrest several cases away from each other.

All this police enthusiasm to take charge of key terror cases might impress casual onlookers. But the only winners in this war of cops will eventually be the terrorists who get away.
 

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Abu Jundal case: How India should step up pressure on Pak - Rediff.com News

No dossier, no amount of dramatic TV debates will help in countering Pakistan's use of terrorism against India. Only an effective and deniable deterrent power and in the form of our capability to carry out deniable covert actions against terrorists based in Pakistani territory can help.

When will the idiots and sycophants get this? If they get this, when will they get the b...s? How can we shake hands with these criminals? Those very hands might have hugged the terrorists a few weeks back.
 
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no wonder you are such a compulsive troll.
Go cry over your husband's shoulder sweetheart; I doubt anyone here cares much about how you feel.

If you don't appreciate being treated this way, than learn to invoke better discussions rather than your usual trolling and flame-baiting. Otherwise, you will continue to be treated exactly the way you deserve to be treated!

ps. I have nothing personal against you, and I'm well aware that in reality you're an introvert and an anti-social person, probably going through a phase of disillusionment. That said, it doesn't excuse you from flame-baiting this board.
 

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Go cry over your husband's shoulder sweetheart; I doubt anyone here cares much about how you feel.

If you don't appreciate being treated this way, than learn to invoke better discussions rather than your usual trolling and flame-baiting. Otherwise, you will continue to be treated exactly the way you deserve to be treated!

ps. I have nothing personal against you, and I'm well aware that in reality you're an introvert and an anti-social person, probably going through a phase of disillusionment. That said, it doesn't excuse you from flame-baiting this board.
I dont need the support of my hubby to handle idiots like you.I know better how to deal with such idiots.You deserve the scorn not the discussion.
 

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I dont need the support of my hubby to handle idiots like you.I know better how to deal with such idiots.You deserve the scorn not the discussion.
Hindu Right Wingers are sub-human they are stupid, fair only a bit better than Chimps on IQ scale. Please do not debate with these Idolaters who create god with their hands and then worship it, they will pull you down to their level and then they will beat you with their experience. By the way do you know Q'uran predicts the existence of "Higgs Boson"? God is really great.
 

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FirstPost - It is India that is in denial

Says a couple of good things like ...
...when we brandish Abu Jundal's dossiers, they smirk. They will toss it into a dustbin and ask us "what evidence?" When we sent them the dossier on Hafiz Saeed, the Pakistani foreign secretary in February 2010 called it mere "literature."...
it's not going to happen in our lifetimes even with all the candle-light vigils on Wagah and Aman ki Aasha programmes organised by the media. Pakistanis will hug and sing with us, and then go back to hating us....
when Vajpayee was talking peace in Lahore, Musharraf was plotting Kargil....Even as they tasted defeat in Kargil, they plotted the Parliament attack. When things were on the mend, they planned 26/11....
For Pakistan, the destruction or failure of India is more important that the success of the idea of Pakistan....
let's forget Abu Jundal. It may make for hot TV debates, it may serve to show the world we are the good guys and Pakistanis the terror-supporters. But nothing good will ever come of it....
Then comes to ...
We need a long-term plan to protect ourselves from Pakistan's self-destructive tendencies, and should pray for the day when young Pakistanis themselves come to realise what they are doing to themselves.
Should we pray for the day when young Pakistanis themselves come to realise what they are doing to themselves or should we make them pray? It is this karma attitude of ours that make us act the way we do and encourages them to act the way they do,
 

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