K-4 Missile

[arnabmit]

Re: India activates 'secret' undersea missile K-4

Do me a favour. Draw a circle with 2m diameter and than fit into that four 1.3m diameters. You will get your answer.
In a 2m dia tube or circle, you can fit in four 1.3m tubes. That is what Arihant carries.

Sorry sir, didn't understand...

If I have to fit in 4 tubes inside a 2m dia tube, the smaller tubes have to have a dia less than 1m.

This diagram, the max dia of each of the smaller tubes is coming to be 0.83m inside the 2m dia tube.

EDIT: didn't see your this post when making my post. What you said in the last post is feasible.

 

[Bheeshma]

Re: India activates 'secret' undersea missile K-4

That is one very complicated launch system ever made by mankind if true. I simply don't know what to say. More likely the K-4 is 2 m in diamter and the Arihant has 12 tubes thats why they don't want to release any pictures yet.

 

[arnabmit]

Re: India activates 'secret' undersea missile K-4

I think we need 3/5 (3 active, 5 total) SSBNs for minimum deterrence.

We also need 2 SSN each as escort for each of the SSBNs and CBGs, which makes 10/16 (10 active, 16 total) SSNs.

SSKs are for regular AShW & ASW petrol. 12/18 should suffice.

ok, only few problems, we dont have that much nuke material for subs reactors and we dont have that much money specially when we have to raise standard of living of our citizens.

We need 10 SLBM and about 30 SSNs,(with cruise missile) + 30 SSKs,(with AIP) to have a potent under sea arm.

 

[Decklander]

Re: India activates 'secret' undersea missile K-4

Sorry sir, didn't understand...

If I have to fit in 4 tubes inside a 2m dia tube, the smaller tubes have to have a dia less than 1m.

This diagram, the max dia of each of the smaller tubes is coming to be 0.83m inside the 2m dia tube.

EDIT: didn't see your this post when making my post. What you said in the last post is feasible.

The SAMs on Godavari class ships are called RZ-13. They have this kind of rotary loading system. The launcher goes down and the missiles drum rotates to load the missile. When you go into the well of the launcher you clearly see the arrangement which I described. But I have not seen how Arihant tubes are placed. What I wrote was what I gathered from my fellow officers of navy.

 

[kseeker]

Re: India activates 'secret' undersea missile K-4

The DRDO is also developing the air version of the K-series missiles, which can be fitted with fighter aircraft like Sukhoi Su-30-MKI.

Does that mean, AIR versions will have same range compared to SEA versions ? What kind of missiles would those be, AIR to AIR or AIR-SURFACE ?

 

[Twinblade]

Re: India activates 'secret' undersea missile K-4

This prediction of Arun Sir, has come true.

Hardly. If the Indian express report is true, the missile is way slimmer and about the third of Agni-3's weight, with a larger warhead and same range and also features depressed trajectory. Something doesn't sound right, unless we have made a quantum leap in missile technology in the last 5 years.

 

[kurup]

Re: India activates 'secret' undersea missile K-4

Do me a favour. Draw a circle with 2m diameter and than fit into that four 1.3m diameters. You will get your answer.
In a 2m dia tube or circle, you can fit in four 1.3m tubes. That is what Arihant carries.

Sir , Do you meant something like this ??

 

[Decklander]

Re: India activates 'secret' undersea missile K-4

Sir , Do you meant something like this ??

I can neither confirm nor deny the config posted by you as I am not aware of the exact config, What I stated was a guess based on what I gathered from my fellow officers.

 

[arnabmit]

Re: India activates 'secret' undersea missile K-4

I think what @Decklander is saying is this:

Missiles would normally be kept in 1a, 2, 3 & 4 positions.

When Missile 1 needs to be fired, then it is moved from position 1a to 1b, and then fired.

Sir , Do you meant something like this ??

 

[sasi]

Do me a favour. Draw a circle with (isn't 2.3m) 2m diameter and than fit into that four 1.3m diameters. You will get your answer.
In a 2m dia tube or circle, you can fit in four 1.3m tubes. That is what Arihant carries.

16. Am i correct!

 

[Decklander]

Re: India activates 'secret' undersea missile K-4

16. Am i correct!

No, what I meant was 12 with fourth position being the launch position of the missile. We will have to wait for exact details to emerge, if they do. Till than we can only guess.

 

[arnabmit]

K-4 and Agni-V tests all set to Rock the world next Month | idrw.org

SOURCE: IDRW NEWS NETWORK

As per media reports, India is all set to test fire two Strategically important missile systems from its arsenal . Second launch of Agni-V is scheduled for next month, after it was first test fired in April last year and created massive buzz in political and military circles all over the world.

Agni-V launch propelled India into "Elite nuclear club", Club where countries not only possess Nuclear weapons but also such long range missiles systems to deliver nukes to their intended target deep in enemy territory. Second test will be validating reliability and repeatability of the previous test for stabilizing the performance of sub-systems.

DRDO is already working to development of Canister version of Agni-V, which will be tested by late 2014; Canister variant of the missile will enable higher flexibility in launching and speedy firing from any location on a road. DRDO has planned total 3 tests, before user trials of the missile starts and enters production by late 2015.

Another Game changer missile officially making its debut will be 3,500 km range K-4 submarine launched ballistic missile (SLBM); K-4 launch is also scheduled to have its first publicly acknowledged test launch from a submerged pontoon off the Visakhapatnam coast also in September. next month's test of K-4 most likely will be final development trial or one of any developmental trials of the missile, since it has been long rumoured that first test firing of K-4 might have taken place way back in 2010 itself.

K-4 will be game changer for India in many ways, not only it will complete India's third leg of the nuclear deterrent (air and ground-launched weapons being the other two) and will also be ideal invulnerable second strike weapon stated in the nuclear doctrine. K-4 even with reduced payload will be able to hit from Bay of Bengal into deeper Chinese cities while staying far away from coast waters of china.

 

[ubuntu]

Breaking news: K-4 missile tested

India test fires long range N-missile launched from under sea | Business Standard



In a significant step towards completing the nuclear triad available with a few nations, India has successfully test-fired a nuclear-capable ballistic missile launched from an underwater platform with a range of over 2,000 kms.

The missile, which can be launched from submarines, was test-fired yesterday in the Bay of Bengal and all parameters were met, Defence Ministry sources said.

This is the longest range missile in the underwater category to have been developed by India.

With this development, India has developed the capability of launching long-range nuclear-capable missile from surface, air and underwater.

Defence Minister AK Antony has congratulated the team of scientists involved in the tests.

Launch from a submarine and integration of the three types of capabilities will mean completion of the nuclear triad, which is available only with a few countries like the US, France, Russia and China.

The submarine-launched ballistic missile (SLBM) is being readied for deployment on various platforms including the around 6,000-tonne indigenous nuclear submarine INS Arihant which will soon be ready for sea trials, sources said.

The missile is part of the family of underwater missiles being developed by DRDO for the Indian strategic forces' underwater platforms.

The DRDO has already developed the BO5 missile, which can strike targets at a range of around 700 km.

India has a no-first-use policy for nuclear weapons and the development of an SLBM boosts its retaliatory strike capability, experts said.

 

[Abhijeet Dey]

re: Breaking news: K-4 missile tested

China's JL-2 missile has a range of 8000 Km. DRDO needs to speed up the development of long range SLBM and the government should give the necessary clearance. If China can do it why can't India?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

re: Breaking news: K-4 missile tested

If Navy want than there will be 8000km range ICBM in Sub ..

DRDO present ICBM is 5500kms, That is because Military wishes it so ..

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At present the objective of DRDO seems making these system more accurate than longer range ..

China's JL-2 missile has a range of 8000 Km. DRDO needs to speed up the development of long range SLBM and the government should give the necessary clearance. If China can do it why can't India?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

re: Breaking news: K-4 missile tested

Btw, Congt !
@sayareakd Sir, Would be happy ..

 

[sayareakd]

re: Breaking news: K-4 missile tested

Btw, Congt !
@sayareakd Sir, Would be happy ..

i am very happy sir. This is will go long way in securing our country................ Congrats to all.......................

 

[sayareakd]

re: Breaking news: K-4 missile tested

If Navy want than there will be 8000km range ICBM in Sub ..

DRDO present ICBM is 5500kms, That is because Military wishes it so ..

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At present the objective of DRDO seems making these system more accurate than longer range ..

yeah true sir it is only matter of extending the range given the experience of Agni series it is not difficult task.

 

[JAISWAL]

re: Breaking news: K-4 missile tested

this is a very good news, and unexpected development.
Congratulation guys...

 

[sayareakd]

re: Breaking news: K-4 missile tested

@Kunal sir.

i read this news report at BR

Flight cancelled, passengers take a bus ride to Chennai - The Hindu

Flight IX — 681 was cancelled because of launch of an experimental launch vehicle over the Bay of Bengal between noon and 4 p.m., airline sources here said.

i suspected something is cooking but this is very good news....................:thumb: