Japan's PM Shinzo to change Post-War Constitution

[Novice]

Their politcal systems, as the goverment itself, can be divided into two parts: elected politicians and promoted technical bureaucracy. The first part come from all kinds of classes in Japanese society and most of them take politician as their careers. The second part mainly consists of graduates from famous universities, as the elites of Japan, they are the ones who actually support the running of goverment.

Okay so you just tried to teach democracy to Indians. Well unfortunately you probably just learnt this fact after paddling in ocean for days to reach America or may be in a container. That's your personal matter anyway.

And the Japanese citizens were not educated in a right way or normal way as other countries, as a nation their balls have been removed by US. :thumb: Except some extremely right wing there, most of them became human kind of lamb types. As their claiming Japan as a peaceful country, that's basically the fact after WWII which can't be denied by Chinese ourselves. But they went too far on the peaceful illusion that their ordinary people believe Japan can get world wide support just because they are peaceful after WWII. Under US all-angled proctections, they simply lost their minds on the cold, blood and dirty games on international stage.

White noise.

But if Japan choose to make their JDF normal military force, then WAR is inevitable, sooner or later.

The timeline depends on the scale of war planned by both sides, preparations need some time but everyone of us can witness it.

So you agree that the day Japan moved from self defence to an offensive doctrine, your bloated and American Dollar fed Dragon would be put to a real test. Gives you a chill, doesn't it. The fiery wrath of Japanese, the bone rattling stories of your beloved being brutalized by them. Remember how the entire Japan overnight turned into a Yakuza and played that cruel game with your beloved comrades?

This also provides the best excuse for China to expend its military force far more than its necessary needs, which is not good for anyone's economic and development.

In the past and until now, China use Taiwan as the excuse to develop capabilities to break through two island chains.

This time, China will use Japan as the excuse to develop capabilites to counter US anywhere on the high sea.

What do you mean excuse? Well you do what you do anyway. You too were once funded and supported by your once Daddy Sam. Aren't you a byproduct of cold war?
If it wasn't for US that gave you the jump start to counter USSR and heck even mess with India, you couldn't even comprehend a current China. You would have long sunk into the obscurity and any amount of denial cannot change the reality.

India, like it or not, will also be dragged into the high tense armed race even not as the direct players in east asian block.

The same thing happens to Russia, two Koreas too.

So as a result of this, what will happen to US, the only power abroad world island and the current sole superpower?

OMG!!! :shocked: You are a big fanatic. Aren't you my friend?

India will be dragged? haaaaah .. India will not be dragged my friend, India rather would voluntarily participate in the war of Humanity vs Demonism (or whatever it is that you preach).
What happens to the superpower? Well you saw that before. It evolved as a super power and after two world wars, remains the inevitable super power militarily.
It would continue to do so for a long foreseeable future and you can't in the right mind debate that.

Weighted players like RIC all will have a fast development in military, and weaken the unbeatable status of US military nowadays.

RI may be. C is currently at war in your hypothetical world, remember. We would debate more on this later.

It's not wise for US to hold a single bet on that they will fight each other to death, since with such military power in hands, the worst case for them is to live as a dominator region power. And US can't do much in either one of the spheres shaped.

Without hegemony in military, the hegemony in financial will go down the toilet as well. Without this two advantages, the world order US constructed is over.

With the nonsense peaceful rising clothes taken off and let's say good luck to the miscalculation of dirty BOSS.

Their opportunism move will bring in the grave-diggers to the fantasy world their forefathers built for generations.

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Again my friend, this is one of the vivid and wild fan boy speculations i see here everyday.

What happens when China goes to war with US. Almost entire Europe, Asia and Americas discontinue bilateral relations with you. Trade goes to a stall. Your heavily export driven Economy goes into a hibernation. As the war progresses, you Army and other forces with never ending demand for arms,ammunition and spares start looking at commercial industrial bases. Shortly any industry capable to producing anything relevant to your defence is converted into some sort or ordnance or other factory. This is US we are talking about so the war is just not ending and you ain't got the guts to pull nuclear trigger. By now, you have dried out pretty much all your resources at hand and keeping up supply to fuel war is becoming harder by each day. US on the other hand backed by India, Japan, Korea, Taiwan in immediate vicinity and pounding you with cumulative force of almost all militarized nation is making you bleed like a bloody Chinese Lizard.

Gradually you become weak and irrelevant in war and turn into Chinese Taliban. No guts, no glory. Chinese Jihad now at best.

Now,
A hegemony? My friend, think what happens to US after the war. They took a very bad hit and their economy has crumbled and there's a almost a chaos. See what else happened during the war. To support the war time supplies, in-numerous factories would have cropped up all over the country. With China at peril and no one to cater to the heavy demands of American consumer, all these factories slowly turn into fmcg factories producing skimmed milk, furniture, heavy industry equipment, children's toys and pretty much everything they were doing in 1970s.

US returns to their previous role of industrial dominance and continuing to support and fuel their defence industry rises again to the pinnacle of military superiority.

 

[s002wjh]

What happens when China goes to war with US. Almost entire Europe, Asia and Americas discontinue bilateral relations with you. Trade goes to a stall. Your heavily export driven Economy goes into a hibernation. As the war progresses, you Army and other forces with never ending demand for arms,ammunition and spares start looking at commercial industrial bases. Shortly any industry capable to producing anything relevant to your defence is converted into some sort or ordnance or other factory. This is US we are talking about so the war is just not ending and you ain't got the guts to pull nuclear trigger. By now, you have dried out pretty much all your resources at hand and keeping up supply to fuel war is becoming harder by each day. US on the other hand backed by India, Japan, Korea, Taiwan in immediate vicinity and pounding you with cumulative force of almost all militarized nation is making you bleed like a bloody Chinese Lizard.

Gradually you become weak and irrelevant in war and turn into Chinese Taliban. No guts, no glory. Chinese Jihad now at best.

Now,
A hegemony? My friend, think what happens to US after the war. They took a very bad hit and their economy has crumbled and there's a almost a chaos. See what else happened during the war. To support the war time supplies, in-numerous factories would have cropped up all over the country. With China at peril and no one to cater to the heavy demands of American consumer, all these factories slowly turn into fmcg factories producing skimmed milk, furniture, heavy industry equipment, children's toys and pretty much everything they were doing in 1970s.

US returns to their previous role of industrial dominance and continuing to support and fuel their defence industry rises again to the pinnacle of military superiority.

you already state reasons why china and US won't goto war, both nation don't trust each other, but its far from going to war. the trade damage goes both ways. you can't start a fight when both US/china try to avoid a war. also japan don't have any allies in asia. both korea hit japan more than they hate china.

 

[s002wjh]

Does show how the Chinese hate and are afraid of a small nation - Japan!

i see hate but not afraid, btw, korea hate japs even more

 

[Ray]

i see hate but not afraid, btw, korea hate japs even more

I take it not be physical fear as such, but a psychological one maybe!

 

[Ray]

Puppet and milk cow of US.

After WWII, US has basically control the inner political issues of Japan, any PMs of Japan who walked against US's interest would be accused of tiny stains and lost their positions very quickly. This has repeated many times in near history. Their politcal systems, as the goverment itself, can be divided into two parts: elected politicians and promoted technical bureaucracy. The first part come from all kinds of classes in Japanese society and most of them take politician as their careers. The second part mainly consists of graduates from famous universities, as the elites of Japan, they are the ones who actually support the running of goverment.

And the Japanese citizens were not educated in a right way or normal way as other countries, as a nation their balls have been removed by US. :thumb: Except some extremely right wing there, most of them became human kind of lamb types. As their claiming Japan as a peaceful country, that's basically the fact after WWII which can't be denied by Chinese ourselves. But they went too far on the peaceful illusion that their ordinary people believe Japan can get world wide support just because they are peaceful after WWII. Under US all-angled proctections, they simply lost their minds on the cold, blood and dirty games on international stage.




You can interpret this image in whatever manners you want.

But if Japan choose to make their JDF normal military force, then WAR is inevitable, sooner or later.

The timeline depends on the scale of war planned by both sides, preparations need some time but everyone of us can witness it.

This also provides the best excuse for China to expend its military force far more than its necessary needs, which is not good for anyone's economic and development.

In the past and until now, China use Taiwan as the excuse to develop capabilities to break through two island chains.

This time, China will use Japan as the excuse to develop capabilites to counter US anywhere on the high sea.

India, like it or not, will also be dragged into the high tense armed race even not as the direct players in east asian block.

The same thing happens to Russia, two Koreas too.

So as a result of this, what will happen to US, the only power abroad world island and the current sole superpower?

Weighted players like RIC all will have a fast development in military, and weaken the unbeatable status of US military nowadays.

It's not wise for US to hold a single bet on that they will fight each other to death, since with such military power in hands, the worst case for them is to live as a dominator region power. And US can't do much in either one of the spheres shaped.

Without hegemony in military, the hegemony in financial will go down the toilet as well. Without this two advantages, the world order US constructed is over.

With the nonsense peaceful rising clothes taken off and let's say good luck to the miscalculation of dirty BOSS.

Their opportunism move will bring in the grave-diggers to the fantasy world their forefathers built for generations.

I would not say Japan is either a puppet or a milk cow of anyone.

It is just that Japan and the US have a convergence of strategic vision.

The analysis of the Japanese political system made by you is interesting and quite thought provoking. I think the 'lamb like' existence is more of a backlash from the trauma of the nuclear explosion where they were gripped by a psychological distaste for war having seen the devastation and the millions suffering from the nuclear aftermath. Further, a nation that once felt their Emperor was God, would possibly have a mindset that obeys authority as the final dispenser. Just speculating!

I don't think that if they make JDF a proper military force, war is inevitable. They have no strategic depth and so they will survive no modern war. Today's scenario and war fighting is not 'laid back' as of WWII. It is realtime!

In so far as other countries being dragged into war, it is a matter of perception.

If what you say about the US is right and we accept that, then the US will come out the winner!

 

[no smoking]

i see hate but not afraid, btw, korea hate japs even more

Because from an indian's point of view, Chinese should be afraid of Japan. Just as a rat think that dog should be afraid of cat.

 

[hello_10]

Japan has opened a new front of "Currency War" with China. its the China which has been accused for keeing Yuan low to have high Surplus and now its Japan which is worried for growing Trade Deficit, with response of this news as below: :ranger:

as below, since Novenber 2012, wityhin just 3 months, Japanese Yen has been depreciated from 79Yen per USD - 100Yen per EURO to around 93Yen per USD and to around 127Yen per EURO right now :ranger:

Exchange Rates Graph (Euro, Japanese Yen) - X-Rates

Currency Calculator (Euro, Japanese Yen) - X-Rates

Japan is the awakening giant in this conflict. The yen has risen 30pc against China's yuan, 65pc against the euro, and 80pc against Sterling since 2008. Tokyo is itching to fight back. :ranger:

Japan to join currency wars as exports slump - Telegraph

with regard to the above story, we discussed one day that Yen is comparable to Cent, and 1.0 USD = 100 Yen is its true value, which will help Yen recover its 30% drop against Yuan since 2008. and anything below it is a loss for Japan while anything above it will put Japanese companies on gain side......

Japan tried hard to help its western friends since 2008's recession but its now their turn to take themselves out of Trade Deficit side :thumb: