Jallikattu Ban: Elites vs Local Tradition
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aw Cho Chweet. This is so naive it's almost cute. Now take a few minutes and try to comprehend that all laws depend upon interpretation and relevance and actual capacity to enforce it. A library of law books mean nothing if you don't understand this basic fact.
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Why?
Because we are trying to please the Westerners, by proving we have some special, magic, free from influence judiciary or something.
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I will add that India is a federation, if it wants to stay united, these people better learn to respect our traditions and language.
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SC took up this case because some crazy organizations came to it with a case.
Sati was a tradition not so long ago, we dont do that anymore (albeit random occurrences have happened).
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Yes sati==jallikattu!!!
You have said everything on this thread except explaining what is so cruel about Jallikattu when compared to killing animals especially Halal!!
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What does "==" mean?
Hey Sakal, I am all for Jallikattu. Refer to my first post on this thread.
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== meant that you are saying Sati is equivalent to Jallikattu.
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SC should not have interfered once Govt has lifted Ban. Why should they stay it without giving a hearing day before commencement of Jalikattu so that a judgment can be had before the event?
SC and judiciaries seem to be too busy in making headlines rather than actually working on reducing pending cases and giving justice to people. There have been lakhs of cases pending with judiciefies and tens of thousands alone in SC, yet they find time for putting stay on an traditional religious event, upon appealed by a group of people who are no way a stake holder in the event? The SC has been acting too liberally and its frequent extra-constitutional forays which basically looks like for grabbing headlines rather than working on genuine issues, is but gradually undermining its esteem. Add to it the people like Katju with verbal diarrhea. No wonder SC has been forced to misinterpret constitution itself to save its Collegeum.
SC and judiciaries seem to be too busy in making headlines rather than actually working on reducing pending cases and giving justice to people. There have been lakhs of cases pending with judiciefies and tens of thousands alone in SC, yet they find time for putting stay on an traditional religious event, upon appealed by a group of people who are no way a stake holder in the event? The SC has been acting too liberally and its frequent extra-constitutional forays which basically looks like for grabbing headlines rather than working on genuine issues, is but gradually undermining its esteem. Add to it the people like Katju with verbal diarrhea. No wonder SC has been forced to misinterpret constitution itself to save its Collegeum.
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also remember CONgress foot-soldiers tying rockets & crackers to pigeons in AP some months back?! gotta spread pics & vids of that like anything!Just ignore these mofo courts.
BTW today picture from Andhra HRD Minister starting a Cock-fight,which is illegal and banned by so-called courts from decades
http://www.andhrajyothy.com/pages/PhotoDisplay?GllryID=19269&DtlID=1
For a change Cute girl taking Selfie with a Cock
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some pertinent points. do read when free:
pls feel free to share whatever you may like on other platforms. just give credit to the forum.[/QUOTE]
will be Labelled by feminazis ... That's all right...
If it goes to judgement, it becomes a case law and a precedent for Indian legal apparatus. Opens the door for litigation countrywide wrt temples.
What bothers me is the utter ignorance of the women who have approached the SC. The mockery they Are making of the god by this petition. The constitution and legal system will decide if the deity can be allowed to keep brhamachari status so that a few feminazis can visit the temple as a tourist spot ?!
If BJP Sits this out, this can actually be a big dent on its "hindutva" perception..
ReIL on mainority animal cruelty to the "Honorable" SC
Surely you are joking?
It is not enough to make these observations in our drawing rooms or on BRF. We have to do what the other side is doing.
Let someone file a PIL demanding similar restrictions on practice of Muslim or Christian religion and culture.
- discrimination against women in mosques and muslim shrines
- cruelty to animals in halal slaughter methods (prolonged death due to bleeding out, generating massive amounts of fear hormones)
- cruelty to animals in bakrid sacrifice (they are kept as pets and taught to love and trust the humans before being sacrificed to simulate Ibrahim's sacrifice of his son whom Allah magically replaced by a sheep at the last second )
- hurting civilized human sentiments by simulated eating of human flesh in catholic mass
- while we are at it, PIL against the whole Christian religion for being based on the barbaric and superstitious practice of human sacrifice
I will make a financial contribution to support such lawsuits. You don't have to win, just do enough publicity and show enough intolerance.
(Even though, of course, as everyone knows, Modi should be doing it and Modi must answer. He is so useless no, hasn't done anything for Hindus)
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must-read!
This Jallikatu Bull of 'Virumandi' Fame Has Seen It All
COIMBATORE: One of the Jallikattu bulls from the popular Tamil film starring Kamal Haasan- Virumandi, is counting out his days at the Velliangiri Gaushala in the city.
The Kangeyam bull, weighing in at 1,000 kilograms and standing more than 5-feet tall was one of a few animals which were used in the movie. Though not the exact animal which tussled with Kamal Haasan in the movie, it did feature in the movie and is an extremely aggressive animal, the caretakers at the Gaushala told Express.
However, the animal has a sad story behind it. After the ban on Jallikattu last year, its owners had decided to sell it to a slaughterhouse. “We were informed of the sale of the animal and intervened before it was sold. We went to Avaniyapuram in Madurai and rescued it,” said S Nizamudeen, President of the Coimbatore Cattle Care Welfare Trust.
P Siva, the managing trustee of the Gaushala said that they had purchased the cow for a sum of `1.5 lakh and that the bull was over 20-years-old.
“The animal is very aggressive and does not let anyone approach. He has a particular poise which makes him stand out from the rest,” said Nizamudeen.
The Supreme Court’s decision to ban Jallikattu this year is expected to force more bull owners to sell their animals to slaughterhouses. In the Gaushala in Coimbatore, there are 307 Jallikattu bulls, all bought and rescued before being sent for slaughter by their owners.
P.S. - what Ms. Gauhar Aziz had stated.
This Jallikatu Bull of 'Virumandi' Fame Has Seen It All
COIMBATORE: One of the Jallikattu bulls from the popular Tamil film starring Kamal Haasan- Virumandi, is counting out his days at the Velliangiri Gaushala in the city.
The Kangeyam bull, weighing in at 1,000 kilograms and standing more than 5-feet tall was one of a few animals which were used in the movie. Though not the exact animal which tussled with Kamal Haasan in the movie, it did feature in the movie and is an extremely aggressive animal, the caretakers at the Gaushala told Express.
However, the animal has a sad story behind it. After the ban on Jallikattu last year, its owners had decided to sell it to a slaughterhouse. “We were informed of the sale of the animal and intervened before it was sold. We went to Avaniyapuram in Madurai and rescued it,” said S Nizamudeen, President of the Coimbatore Cattle Care Welfare Trust.
P Siva, the managing trustee of the Gaushala said that they had purchased the cow for a sum of `1.5 lakh and that the bull was over 20-years-old.
“The animal is very aggressive and does not let anyone approach. He has a particular poise which makes him stand out from the rest,” said Nizamudeen.
The Supreme Court’s decision to ban Jallikattu this year is expected to force more bull owners to sell their animals to slaughterhouses. In the Gaushala in Coimbatore, there are 307 Jallikattu bulls, all bought and rescued before being sent for slaughter by their owners.
P.S. - what Ms. Gauhar Aziz had stated.
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Sabarimala to Jallikattu – Fight for Hindu Freedoms
Does the Constitutional Right to Freedom of Faith depend on which Faith one professes ?
It would seem so given the manner in which Courts of India have arrogated to themselves the power to issue diktat to Hindu Institutions.
Consider the following paradoxes:
A seemingly progressive Society can either criminalise or legalise Bigamy based on the faith you profess.
A state that professes to protect Children and accords them “Rights” has little to say why genital mutilation at birth is justifiable within some faiths when infants have no agency.
A state that swears by its rational temper to condone all sorts of Anti-Superstition Laws has little to say of “Miracles” leading to “Sainthood”.
A defining characteristic of the “progressive discourse” in India has been that it condones violations of Individual Rights on grounds of “Right to Freedom of Faith” for the Religious Minorities even as it denies the Religious Majority the same “Right to Freedom of Faith” on matter where there is no violation of Individual Rights.
From Jallikattu to Sabarimalai let us be absolutely clear – there is no basis to deny Hindu Religious Institutions the “Right to Freedom of Faith” by making it about an “alleged violation of Individual Rights” where there have been none.
Supreme Court on Sabarimala
The Supreme Court yesterday questioned the age-old tradition of banning entry of women of menstrual age group in historic Sabarimala temple in Kerala, saying it cannot be done under the Constitution.
“The temple cannot prohibit entry (women), except on the basis of religion. Unless you have a constitutional right, you cannot prohibit entry. Anyway, we will examine it on February 8,”
a bench of Justices Dipak Misra and N V Ramana said.
The bench was hearing a PIL, filed by the Young Lawyers Association, seeking entry for all women and girls in the Sabarimala temple which, as a practice, does not allow girls after attaining puberty to enter the premises. However, women, who have crossed menopause, are allowed.
During the brief hearing today, the bench posed a query as to why women cannot be allowed inside and observed that the practice was not supported by the constitutional scheme. It asked the government whether it was sure that women have not entered the temple premises in the last 1,500 years. The bench also observed that it was a public temple and everyone needed to have “the right to access”. At best, there can be religious restrictions and not a general restriction, it said. Senior advocate K K Venugopal, appearing for Kerala, said the women, who have not attained menopause, cannot preserve the purity during the religious journey to the temple, located on a hilltop, which usually spans 41 days.
Are Hindu Temples Public or Private Property ?
The Supreme Court’s line of questioning on the Sabarimala seems to be based on the presumption that a Hindu Temple is “public property” and not “private property”.
It is this fundamental failure to respect “private property rights” in the context of Hindu Religious Institutions that has paved the way for Governments and Courts to meddle with private matters of Hindu Faith.
Govt runs temples under secular mask- introduce democracy in temple admin., reform Devaswom Act,hand over temple administration to devotees.
— KummanamRajasekharan (@Kummanam) January 11, 2016
It is the failure to recognise Private Property Rights that has seen Government Endowment Departments take over Real Estate Assets of Hindu Maths. It is this same failure to recognise Private Property Rights that has also seen Government instituted Temple Boards manage some of the richest Temples fromTirupathi to Thiruvananthapuram and Puri to Brindavan. It is also the same failure to recognise Private Property Rights that today arrogates to Courts the discretion to order dress codes in Hindu Temples (see below).
The fault also lies with Hindu Civil Society that has looked to government funded schemes to support Hindu Temples thus inviting government interference in a whole range of Temple matters.
Irrespective it begs answering the following questions
Who owns Hindu Temples – the State or Hindu Civil Society ?
Do Hindu Temples have Property Rights ?
Should management of Hindu Temples be controlled by the State or the Hindu Civil Society ?
If Hindu Temples are Public Property as Courts and Governments have come to interpret then can we really claim we are a Secular Republic and not a Hindu Rashtra ?
Should Courts dictate progressivism in matters of Faith ?
From the Shani Temple in Singanapur, Maharashtra to Sabarimala in Kerala there is raging a debate on whether gender restrictions to Temple entry should be addressed by Courts or via Legislation.
TDB wants to continue ban on entry of women in Sabarimala
Gender discriminatory Religious Practices are neither unique to Hindu way of life or India. The world over gender discrimination in matters of faith is a well established phenomenon with each Religious Institution choosing its own method and pace to address this discrimination.
It is important to draw a distinction between gender discrimination that results in coercion and violation of women’s rights from gender discrimination that neither coerces nor violates anyone’s rights.
In the case of gender restrictions on entry to a specific Temple it cannot be argued that a women’s rights have been violated for the following reasons:
A specific Hindu Temple as a Private Property can have its own set of rules like any Private Institution on who it chooses to allow or deny.
With a Million plus Temples having no gender restrictions whatsoever it also cannot be argued that denial of entry to these specific temples has deprived anyone of their Right to Freedom of Faith.
There is no religiously ordained compulsion or coercion to visit any specific Hindu Temple to make the argument that Individual Rights have been violated.
What about Dalit entry to Hindu Temples and regressive Temple practices ?
Almost all of the legal architecture that has paved the way for Government and Court meddling in Hindu Temples has its roots in caste prejudice that has resulted in barring of Dalits from entry to Hindu Temples.
Hindu Society has paid a steep price for condoning caste prejudices, not proactively eliminating caste prejudices and for continuing to preserve caste prejudices in several parts of the country. By refusing to unitedly root out this evil, Hindu Society has hurt its own interests for it has given the Government and Courts a reason to legislate on Hindu Temples and set judicial precedents for controlling and interfering with how Hindu Temples manage their affairs.
While regressive practices within a faith that do not coerce or violate individual rights should be left to Civil Society to reform itself, the historic nature of Dalit discrimination, the scale of its impact on Dalit lives denying them dignity of life in soceity and depriving them of several Human Rights makes it extremely hard to make the argument that Dalit Discrimination in Hindu Temples should not be addressed via Courts and Legislations.
The intervention of Courts and Government in Hindu Temples to redress Dalit Discrimination should be seen as a one time exception and should not be seen as setting a precedent for further involvement of Courts and Government in Temple practices howsoever regressive those practices may be.
Madras High Court stays Dress Code
The Madras High court stayed a controversial order of a single judge, imposing a dress code for devotees visiting temples across Tamil Nadu, on a batch of petitions challenging the order on the ground that it was “discriminatory”.
The petitioner had submitted that maintenance of order and decorum in a particular temple was within the powers of the temple administration and dress code differed from temple to temple, based on such custom and practise prevailing there. There was no direction to follow uniform dress code in all the temples, the petitioner said.
The HR& CE department said temples are governed by their own traditions, customs and practises. For instance, in Tiruchendur temple, male devotees should not wear upper cloth inside the temple. There are famous temples Like Sri Meenakshi temple, visited by foreigners and North Indians. They could not be compelled to wear a particular form of dress as prescribed by the judge. The suggestion to prescribe fully covered dress for children was also not feasible, it said. The dress code would have far-reaching consequences and involved public policy and depended on various factors like sentiments of the people, customs and practises, it said. Dress code for Hindu public religious institutions alone was unacceptable when there was no prescribed dress code for other religious institutions, the petitioner argued.
The Temple Entry Authorisation Act had made it clear that no executive authority of a temple was entitled to introduce innovations concerning time, place and mode of worship in a temple which might prejudicially affect the rights and facilities which the worshippers generally exercised.
Centre’s notification on Jallikattu challenged
Meanwhile, the Centre’s notification lifting ban on bull- taming sport Jallikattu during the festival of Pongal in Tamil Nadu was challenged in the Supreme Court. The petitions seeking urgent hearing on the issue were mentioned before a bench headed by Chief Justice T S Thakur which agreed to hear it. The pleas were filed by Animal Welfare Board of India, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) India and a Bangalore-based NGO.
Meanwhile Supreme Court has stayed government’s notification on Jallikattu.
SC stays Centre’s notification allowing Jallikattu https://t.co/TB1oz1KVeq
— Niti Central (@NitiCentral) January 12, 2016
From Kerala to Tamil Nadu as we head to the election season, Hindu Freedoms it seems will be on the ballot as Sabarimala and Jallikattu get debated in the Courts.
Here is the recent history of previous efforts done to raise awareness about Hindu temples in reverse Chronological Order
While 2015 may mark the first small victory in the Long War to get the government out of Hindu Temples, it is also the year we mark the passing away of the foremost crusader of this cause – Swami Dayanand and also the year when we witnessed one of the worst incidents of government mismanagement of a Hindu Shrine in Odisha.
Prof. Madhu Kishwar while recalling Swami Dayanand’s efforts had voiced her views on the dismal state of temple administration in India, the movement to free Hindu temples from government control and touched upon the key issues that threaten the temple ecosystem in India.
In an earlier press conference Nagarajan of the Temple Worshipper’s Society (Chennai), Advocate Kiran Bettadapur and K Gopinath, Professor IISC addressed the audience, speaking on the shortcomings in the present temple management scenario and insisting on an exit policy by the government.
In June 2015, Namma Devasthana organized a seminar on “Autonomy for Hindu Temples”launching anationwide campaign #savethetemples, in which key persons like Mohandas Pai, Padmashree Dr VR Gowrishankar and author/columnist Prof. MD Srinivas spoke.
In October 2014, KSR Menon raised how Temple Autonomy in Kerala was being eroded.
In September of 2014, Subramanian Swamy who has been the most consistent and lone political voicebattling for autonomy Hindu Temples, spoke extensively for ending decades of Government control.
Shantanu Bhagwat writing in his blog back in 2013 chronicles the multiple efforts to advance the debate that called to question Government Control of Hindu Temples during the previous decade.
Drawing wider Social Media attention to how vast majority of Hindus have accepted Government Control of Hindu Temples by default, Shashi Shekhar wrote in the Pragati Magazine back in 2011, on the irony of the Secular Indian State running Hindu Temples.
With the richest Hindu Temple in Tirupathi continuing to be controlled by the Government, it is a long road ahead for the Free Hindu Temples Movement.
Does the Constitutional Right to Freedom of Faith depend on which Faith one professes ?
It would seem so given the manner in which Courts of India have arrogated to themselves the power to issue diktat to Hindu Institutions.
Consider the following paradoxes:
A seemingly progressive Society can either criminalise or legalise Bigamy based on the faith you profess.
A state that professes to protect Children and accords them “Rights” has little to say why genital mutilation at birth is justifiable within some faiths when infants have no agency.
A state that swears by its rational temper to condone all sorts of Anti-Superstition Laws has little to say of “Miracles” leading to “Sainthood”.
A defining characteristic of the “progressive discourse” in India has been that it condones violations of Individual Rights on grounds of “Right to Freedom of Faith” for the Religious Minorities even as it denies the Religious Majority the same “Right to Freedom of Faith” on matter where there is no violation of Individual Rights.
From Jallikattu to Sabarimalai let us be absolutely clear – there is no basis to deny Hindu Religious Institutions the “Right to Freedom of Faith” by making it about an “alleged violation of Individual Rights” where there have been none.
Supreme Court on Sabarimala
The Supreme Court yesterday questioned the age-old tradition of banning entry of women of menstrual age group in historic Sabarimala temple in Kerala, saying it cannot be done under the Constitution.
“The temple cannot prohibit entry (women), except on the basis of religion. Unless you have a constitutional right, you cannot prohibit entry. Anyway, we will examine it on February 8,”
a bench of Justices Dipak Misra and N V Ramana said.
The bench was hearing a PIL, filed by the Young Lawyers Association, seeking entry for all women and girls in the Sabarimala temple which, as a practice, does not allow girls after attaining puberty to enter the premises. However, women, who have crossed menopause, are allowed.
During the brief hearing today, the bench posed a query as to why women cannot be allowed inside and observed that the practice was not supported by the constitutional scheme. It asked the government whether it was sure that women have not entered the temple premises in the last 1,500 years. The bench also observed that it was a public temple and everyone needed to have “the right to access”. At best, there can be religious restrictions and not a general restriction, it said. Senior advocate K K Venugopal, appearing for Kerala, said the women, who have not attained menopause, cannot preserve the purity during the religious journey to the temple, located on a hilltop, which usually spans 41 days.
Are Hindu Temples Public or Private Property ?
The Supreme Court’s line of questioning on the Sabarimala seems to be based on the presumption that a Hindu Temple is “public property” and not “private property”.
It is this fundamental failure to respect “private property rights” in the context of Hindu Religious Institutions that has paved the way for Governments and Courts to meddle with private matters of Hindu Faith.
Govt runs temples under secular mask- introduce democracy in temple admin., reform Devaswom Act,hand over temple administration to devotees.
— KummanamRajasekharan (@Kummanam) January 11, 2016
It is the failure to recognise Private Property Rights that has seen Government Endowment Departments take over Real Estate Assets of Hindu Maths. It is this same failure to recognise Private Property Rights that has also seen Government instituted Temple Boards manage some of the richest Temples fromTirupathi to Thiruvananthapuram and Puri to Brindavan. It is also the same failure to recognise Private Property Rights that today arrogates to Courts the discretion to order dress codes in Hindu Temples (see below).
The fault also lies with Hindu Civil Society that has looked to government funded schemes to support Hindu Temples thus inviting government interference in a whole range of Temple matters.
Irrespective it begs answering the following questions
Who owns Hindu Temples – the State or Hindu Civil Society ?
Do Hindu Temples have Property Rights ?
Should management of Hindu Temples be controlled by the State or the Hindu Civil Society ?
If Hindu Temples are Public Property as Courts and Governments have come to interpret then can we really claim we are a Secular Republic and not a Hindu Rashtra ?
Should Courts dictate progressivism in matters of Faith ?
From the Shani Temple in Singanapur, Maharashtra to Sabarimala in Kerala there is raging a debate on whether gender restrictions to Temple entry should be addressed by Courts or via Legislation.
TDB wants to continue ban on entry of women in Sabarimala
Gender discriminatory Religious Practices are neither unique to Hindu way of life or India. The world over gender discrimination in matters of faith is a well established phenomenon with each Religious Institution choosing its own method and pace to address this discrimination.
It is important to draw a distinction between gender discrimination that results in coercion and violation of women’s rights from gender discrimination that neither coerces nor violates anyone’s rights.
In the case of gender restrictions on entry to a specific Temple it cannot be argued that a women’s rights have been violated for the following reasons:
A specific Hindu Temple as a Private Property can have its own set of rules like any Private Institution on who it chooses to allow or deny.
With a Million plus Temples having no gender restrictions whatsoever it also cannot be argued that denial of entry to these specific temples has deprived anyone of their Right to Freedom of Faith.
There is no religiously ordained compulsion or coercion to visit any specific Hindu Temple to make the argument that Individual Rights have been violated.
What about Dalit entry to Hindu Temples and regressive Temple practices ?
Almost all of the legal architecture that has paved the way for Government and Court meddling in Hindu Temples has its roots in caste prejudice that has resulted in barring of Dalits from entry to Hindu Temples.
Hindu Society has paid a steep price for condoning caste prejudices, not proactively eliminating caste prejudices and for continuing to preserve caste prejudices in several parts of the country. By refusing to unitedly root out this evil, Hindu Society has hurt its own interests for it has given the Government and Courts a reason to legislate on Hindu Temples and set judicial precedents for controlling and interfering with how Hindu Temples manage their affairs.
While regressive practices within a faith that do not coerce or violate individual rights should be left to Civil Society to reform itself, the historic nature of Dalit discrimination, the scale of its impact on Dalit lives denying them dignity of life in soceity and depriving them of several Human Rights makes it extremely hard to make the argument that Dalit Discrimination in Hindu Temples should not be addressed via Courts and Legislations.
The intervention of Courts and Government in Hindu Temples to redress Dalit Discrimination should be seen as a one time exception and should not be seen as setting a precedent for further involvement of Courts and Government in Temple practices howsoever regressive those practices may be.
Madras High Court stays Dress Code
The Madras High court stayed a controversial order of a single judge, imposing a dress code for devotees visiting temples across Tamil Nadu, on a batch of petitions challenging the order on the ground that it was “discriminatory”.
The petitioner had submitted that maintenance of order and decorum in a particular temple was within the powers of the temple administration and dress code differed from temple to temple, based on such custom and practise prevailing there. There was no direction to follow uniform dress code in all the temples, the petitioner said.
The HR& CE department said temples are governed by their own traditions, customs and practises. For instance, in Tiruchendur temple, male devotees should not wear upper cloth inside the temple. There are famous temples Like Sri Meenakshi temple, visited by foreigners and North Indians. They could not be compelled to wear a particular form of dress as prescribed by the judge. The suggestion to prescribe fully covered dress for children was also not feasible, it said. The dress code would have far-reaching consequences and involved public policy and depended on various factors like sentiments of the people, customs and practises, it said. Dress code for Hindu public religious institutions alone was unacceptable when there was no prescribed dress code for other religious institutions, the petitioner argued.
The Temple Entry Authorisation Act had made it clear that no executive authority of a temple was entitled to introduce innovations concerning time, place and mode of worship in a temple which might prejudicially affect the rights and facilities which the worshippers generally exercised.
Centre’s notification on Jallikattu challenged
Meanwhile, the Centre’s notification lifting ban on bull- taming sport Jallikattu during the festival of Pongal in Tamil Nadu was challenged in the Supreme Court. The petitions seeking urgent hearing on the issue were mentioned before a bench headed by Chief Justice T S Thakur which agreed to hear it. The pleas were filed by Animal Welfare Board of India, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) India and a Bangalore-based NGO.
Meanwhile Supreme Court has stayed government’s notification on Jallikattu.
SC stays Centre’s notification allowing Jallikattu https://t.co/TB1oz1KVeq
— Niti Central (@NitiCentral) January 12, 2016
From Kerala to Tamil Nadu as we head to the election season, Hindu Freedoms it seems will be on the ballot as Sabarimala and Jallikattu get debated in the Courts.
Here is the recent history of previous efforts done to raise awareness about Hindu temples in reverse Chronological Order
While 2015 may mark the first small victory in the Long War to get the government out of Hindu Temples, it is also the year we mark the passing away of the foremost crusader of this cause – Swami Dayanand and also the year when we witnessed one of the worst incidents of government mismanagement of a Hindu Shrine in Odisha.
Prof. Madhu Kishwar while recalling Swami Dayanand’s efforts had voiced her views on the dismal state of temple administration in India, the movement to free Hindu temples from government control and touched upon the key issues that threaten the temple ecosystem in India.
In an earlier press conference Nagarajan of the Temple Worshipper’s Society (Chennai), Advocate Kiran Bettadapur and K Gopinath, Professor IISC addressed the audience, speaking on the shortcomings in the present temple management scenario and insisting on an exit policy by the government.
In June 2015, Namma Devasthana organized a seminar on “Autonomy for Hindu Temples”launching anationwide campaign #savethetemples, in which key persons like Mohandas Pai, Padmashree Dr VR Gowrishankar and author/columnist Prof. MD Srinivas spoke.
In October 2014, KSR Menon raised how Temple Autonomy in Kerala was being eroded.
In September of 2014, Subramanian Swamy who has been the most consistent and lone political voicebattling for autonomy Hindu Temples, spoke extensively for ending decades of Government control.
Shantanu Bhagwat writing in his blog back in 2013 chronicles the multiple efforts to advance the debate that called to question Government Control of Hindu Temples during the previous decade.
Drawing wider Social Media attention to how vast majority of Hindus have accepted Government Control of Hindu Temples by default, Shashi Shekhar wrote in the Pragati Magazine back in 2011, on the irony of the Secular Indian State running Hindu Temples.
With the richest Hindu Temple in Tirupathi continuing to be controlled by the Government, it is a long road ahead for the Free Hindu Temples Movement.
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Meanwhile lion-cub in her DP tweets - I will also eat this female donkey; come kill me.
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Did the native Dravidian movement wittingly contribute to the degeneration of Jallikattu in Tamil Nadu?
The traditional bull taming or bull hugging sport of Tamil Nadu, called Jallikattu, is now back in the news. This is an ancient 5,000-year-old sport that is deeply enmeshed in the rural way of life and worship of local deities. Sangam literature (2nd century CE) has several references to the sport of bull hugging (ஏறுதழுவல்). It is usually conducted as a part of week-long festivities associated with the Hindu festival of Pongal (Makara Sankranthi).
The day after Pongal is dedicated to bovine farming animals when they are decorated, celebrated and worshipped. However, based on a petition by animal welfare/rights groups, the Supreme Court banned Jallikattu in May 2014. Since then the people of Tamil Nadu have felt victimised over this emotive issue and have perceived this ban to be a grave assault on their longstanding culture, tradition, and worship patterns.
Although the people and politicians of Tamil Nadu blame everyone from animal welfare groups to the Supreme Court, to foreign corporate firms, did the native Dravidian movement wittingly contribute to this degeneration? Can simple apolitical farmers of Tamil Nadu (and elsewhere) understand the machinations of globally organised NGO networks and the Idea-of-India lobby? Can they learn from the vulnerability fostered by more than five decades of Dravidian movement? What can they do to prevent being easy pickings for more of such cultural assaults?
Hinduism (or Sanatana dharma) has always been a fragmented, federated religion that allowed local communities to develop and maintain their own set of graama devatas, agamas, rituals, customs and worship patterns. Tamil Hindu culture is no different. The traditional Hindu society was organised around its local temples with spirituality, social welfare and entertainment practices interwoven together.
This was one of the reasons British missionaries found it hard to crack Hindu society and pursue their conversion agenda. To break this synergistic trinity of social practices, the British establishment divided temple functions into religious and secular functions.
Then the government usurped the secular functions from the temple to debilitate its social welfare contribution. Hindus across India are still grappling with this issue as the management of Hindu temples has been surrendered to the government and wily politicians.
The Dravidian movement picked this issue from where the British left and tried to further divide the Hindu religious practices as Vedic Aryan practices and secular Dravidian practices. Even Gods were divided on these lines. The focus of the Dravidian movement was to make Tamil Hindus shun Vedic Aryan practices and “reclaim” a mythical aboriginal Dravidian identity.
After the linguistic division of states, the Dravidian movement required an image makeover to forge a strong Tamil identity. With a consideration on vote bank politics and in furtherance of the evangelical agenda of Bishop Robert Caldwell (who was a big mentor of the Dravidian movement), they attempted to strip off the Hindu from Tamil Hindu practices in order to craft a synthetic Tamil identity.
For example, Pongal was rebranded as Tamil day (as if Makara Sankaranthi doesn’t exist beyond the Venkatagiri hills) and an earnest attempt was made to disconnect Pongal festivities/worship patterns from where they always belonged – the rural Hindu temples. The underlying motive was to unite Tamils across religions as a part of Pongal celebrations and forge a common Tamil identity; something Kerala has reasonably managed with Onam.
This propaganda promoted by the Dravidian movement had a tremendous impact on the psyche of the Tamil Hindu farming communities (especially the gen-next), and they slowly started to perceive Pongal celebrations as sport/entertainment, devoid of spirituality and social welfare. This obfuscation has run its course for over 40 years, and the Hindu link of the Pongal festivities has been significantly weakened.
Like they say ‘operation successful, patient is dead’; Dravidian movement has failed on two fronts. For one, the synthetic Tamil identity they dreamed of has not materialised across religious lines. Tamil non-Hindus have not taken up Pongal celebrations beyond the usual optics.
That is why you don’t see any prominent church or Muslim organisation campaigning/clamouring for the restoration of Jallikattu. However hard leaders of the Dravidian movement may try to bury this issue, the fact is non-Hindus simply don’t care about this loss.
Second, the “secularised” Pongal celebrations became easy pickings and failed the “essentiality” test for preserving a “regressive” religious practice. The Idea-of-India lobby constituting Nehruvians, commies, and Islamic apologists are always on the lookout for deracinating India of its Hindu roots. The global network of animal welfare NGOs, and foreign-funded rights activists became their coalition partners in this cultural assault.
The most pitiable plight is that of the Tamil Hindu farmers and villagers who were taken for a ride by the Dravidian movement in its selfish quest for a synthetic identity. These farmers did not even understand the machinations of their opponents.
They weren’t even party to the Jallikattu case that led to the ban. Until the SC ban, they seemed to have naively believed that the Tamil Nadu state government will take care of everything.
That is why they even refused to acknowledge the Hindu identity of Jallikattu. During a similar assault by the ‘Idea-of-India’ lobby on the Chidambaram Dikshithars and their traditional rights to conduct rituals at the famous Nataraja temple, they first failed to assess their enemy.
But after the HC verdict, they organised themselves better and had no qualms in reclaiming their Vedic Hindu identity. They started to research/quote the relevant agamas and sutras, going beyond the empty dogmatic claims of tradition. They engaged the reputed Hindutva activist and legal eagle Dr Subramaniam Swamy to eventually thwart their opponents in the SC.
However, naive Tamil Nadu farmers are suffering from a serious identity crisis and are still afraid to reclaim their Tamil Hindu identity. Who knows what would have happened had they engaged a Hindutva activist/lawyer like Dr Swamy before the Jallikattu case went to the SC bench comprising Justice KS Radhakrishnan and Pinaki Chandra Misra? (It’s another matter that some of them subsequently approached Dr Swamy after the ill-fated 2014 judgment, but the war was lost by then!)
The root of this problem is the structured assault on Hindu religious customs by the ‘Idea-of-India’ lobby. Hindus will be able to hold on to any practice which the ‘Idea-of-India’ deems to be “regressive” only if it passes the test of the doctrine of necessity.
Christianity and Islam do not have these worries because they are religions of the book. They associate even a tertiary practice like dressing or lifestyle choice as integral for practising their religion, and their codified book comes to their rescue.
Hindus do not have this luxury because the underlying Dharmic code is neither codified nor centrally controlled. As Hindus get delinked from their roots, it is easy picking for ‘Idea-of-India’. Jallikattu is not the only one in the ‘Idea-of-India’ hit list, but it became one of the first ones to go.
The Dravidian movement had made it easy for ‘Idea-of-India’ lobby – temple elephants, animal sacrifices in Hindu temples (remember the 2014 Himachal HC judgment?), Dahi Handi during Mumbai Gokulashtami celebrations, and the Sabarimala/Shani Shingnapur worship traditions are all in the line of fire. Until all public/social celebration of pagan, Hindu festivals stops (like they managed to ensure in ancient Rome), the battering ram of IoI will continue to push its boundaries.
Dahi Handi
Going back to the naive Tamil Hindu farmers, they have paid a heavy price for putting their trust in the leaders of Dravidian movement. They need to wake up now and reclaim their Hindu identity. If they cannot establish any trace of any socio-cultural practice back to a particular denomination and its Tamil Hindu roots, then sooner or later they are bound to lose it.
The need to understand that the utility of the synthetic linguistic identity is limited; Tamil Hindus should stop naively believing that their non-Hindu brethren would come to their assistance in these fights to preserve their socio-cultural traditions. The practices they cherish and wish to safeguard are essentially Tamil Hindu practices, and the only way to save them is by openly embracing the truth.
The traditional bull taming or bull hugging sport of Tamil Nadu, called Jallikattu, is now back in the news. This is an ancient 5,000-year-old sport that is deeply enmeshed in the rural way of life and worship of local deities. Sangam literature (2nd century CE) has several references to the sport of bull hugging (ஏறுதழுவல்). It is usually conducted as a part of week-long festivities associated with the Hindu festival of Pongal (Makara Sankranthi).
The day after Pongal is dedicated to bovine farming animals when they are decorated, celebrated and worshipped. However, based on a petition by animal welfare/rights groups, the Supreme Court banned Jallikattu in May 2014. Since then the people of Tamil Nadu have felt victimised over this emotive issue and have perceived this ban to be a grave assault on their longstanding culture, tradition, and worship patterns.
Although the people and politicians of Tamil Nadu blame everyone from animal welfare groups to the Supreme Court, to foreign corporate firms, did the native Dravidian movement wittingly contribute to this degeneration? Can simple apolitical farmers of Tamil Nadu (and elsewhere) understand the machinations of globally organised NGO networks and the Idea-of-India lobby? Can they learn from the vulnerability fostered by more than five decades of Dravidian movement? What can they do to prevent being easy pickings for more of such cultural assaults?
Hinduism (or Sanatana dharma) has always been a fragmented, federated religion that allowed local communities to develop and maintain their own set of graama devatas, agamas, rituals, customs and worship patterns. Tamil Hindu culture is no different. The traditional Hindu society was organised around its local temples with spirituality, social welfare and entertainment practices interwoven together.
This was one of the reasons British missionaries found it hard to crack Hindu society and pursue their conversion agenda. To break this synergistic trinity of social practices, the British establishment divided temple functions into religious and secular functions.
Then the government usurped the secular functions from the temple to debilitate its social welfare contribution. Hindus across India are still grappling with this issue as the management of Hindu temples has been surrendered to the government and wily politicians.
The Dravidian movement picked this issue from where the British left and tried to further divide the Hindu religious practices as Vedic Aryan practices and secular Dravidian practices. Even Gods were divided on these lines. The focus of the Dravidian movement was to make Tamil Hindus shun Vedic Aryan practices and “reclaim” a mythical aboriginal Dravidian identity.
After the linguistic division of states, the Dravidian movement required an image makeover to forge a strong Tamil identity. With a consideration on vote bank politics and in furtherance of the evangelical agenda of Bishop Robert Caldwell (who was a big mentor of the Dravidian movement), they attempted to strip off the Hindu from Tamil Hindu practices in order to craft a synthetic Tamil identity.
For example, Pongal was rebranded as Tamil day (as if Makara Sankaranthi doesn’t exist beyond the Venkatagiri hills) and an earnest attempt was made to disconnect Pongal festivities/worship patterns from where they always belonged – the rural Hindu temples. The underlying motive was to unite Tamils across religions as a part of Pongal celebrations and forge a common Tamil identity; something Kerala has reasonably managed with Onam.
This propaganda promoted by the Dravidian movement had a tremendous impact on the psyche of the Tamil Hindu farming communities (especially the gen-next), and they slowly started to perceive Pongal celebrations as sport/entertainment, devoid of spirituality and social welfare. This obfuscation has run its course for over 40 years, and the Hindu link of the Pongal festivities has been significantly weakened.
Like they say ‘operation successful, patient is dead’; Dravidian movement has failed on two fronts. For one, the synthetic Tamil identity they dreamed of has not materialised across religious lines. Tamil non-Hindus have not taken up Pongal celebrations beyond the usual optics.
That is why you don’t see any prominent church or Muslim organisation campaigning/clamouring for the restoration of Jallikattu. However hard leaders of the Dravidian movement may try to bury this issue, the fact is non-Hindus simply don’t care about this loss.
Second, the “secularised” Pongal celebrations became easy pickings and failed the “essentiality” test for preserving a “regressive” religious practice. The Idea-of-India lobby constituting Nehruvians, commies, and Islamic apologists are always on the lookout for deracinating India of its Hindu roots. The global network of animal welfare NGOs, and foreign-funded rights activists became their coalition partners in this cultural assault.
The most pitiable plight is that of the Tamil Hindu farmers and villagers who were taken for a ride by the Dravidian movement in its selfish quest for a synthetic identity. These farmers did not even understand the machinations of their opponents.
They weren’t even party to the Jallikattu case that led to the ban. Until the SC ban, they seemed to have naively believed that the Tamil Nadu state government will take care of everything.
That is why they even refused to acknowledge the Hindu identity of Jallikattu. During a similar assault by the ‘Idea-of-India’ lobby on the Chidambaram Dikshithars and their traditional rights to conduct rituals at the famous Nataraja temple, they first failed to assess their enemy.
But after the HC verdict, they organised themselves better and had no qualms in reclaiming their Vedic Hindu identity. They started to research/quote the relevant agamas and sutras, going beyond the empty dogmatic claims of tradition. They engaged the reputed Hindutva activist and legal eagle Dr Subramaniam Swamy to eventually thwart their opponents in the SC.
However, naive Tamil Nadu farmers are suffering from a serious identity crisis and are still afraid to reclaim their Tamil Hindu identity. Who knows what would have happened had they engaged a Hindutva activist/lawyer like Dr Swamy before the Jallikattu case went to the SC bench comprising Justice KS Radhakrishnan and Pinaki Chandra Misra? (It’s another matter that some of them subsequently approached Dr Swamy after the ill-fated 2014 judgment, but the war was lost by then!)
The root of this problem is the structured assault on Hindu religious customs by the ‘Idea-of-India’ lobby. Hindus will be able to hold on to any practice which the ‘Idea-of-India’ deems to be “regressive” only if it passes the test of the doctrine of necessity.
Christianity and Islam do not have these worries because they are religions of the book. They associate even a tertiary practice like dressing or lifestyle choice as integral for practising their religion, and their codified book comes to their rescue.
Hindus do not have this luxury because the underlying Dharmic code is neither codified nor centrally controlled. As Hindus get delinked from their roots, it is easy picking for ‘Idea-of-India’. Jallikattu is not the only one in the ‘Idea-of-India’ hit list, but it became one of the first ones to go.
The Dravidian movement had made it easy for ‘Idea-of-India’ lobby – temple elephants, animal sacrifices in Hindu temples (remember the 2014 Himachal HC judgment?), Dahi Handi during Mumbai Gokulashtami celebrations, and the Sabarimala/Shani Shingnapur worship traditions are all in the line of fire. Until all public/social celebration of pagan, Hindu festivals stops (like they managed to ensure in ancient Rome), the battering ram of IoI will continue to push its boundaries.
Dahi Handi
Going back to the naive Tamil Hindu farmers, they have paid a heavy price for putting their trust in the leaders of Dravidian movement. They need to wake up now and reclaim their Hindu identity. If they cannot establish any trace of any socio-cultural practice back to a particular denomination and its Tamil Hindu roots, then sooner or later they are bound to lose it.
The need to understand that the utility of the synthetic linguistic identity is limited; Tamil Hindus should stop naively believing that their non-Hindu brethren would come to their assistance in these fights to preserve their socio-cultural traditions. The practices they cherish and wish to safeguard are essentially Tamil Hindu practices, and the only way to save them is by openly embracing the truth.
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Traditional style of reporting.Did the native Dravidian movement wittingly contribute to the degeneration of Jallikattu in Tamil Nadu?
The traditional bull taming or bull hugging sport of Tamil Nadu, called Jallikattu, is now back in the news. This is an ancient 5,000-year-old sport that is deeply enmeshed in the rural way of life and worship of local deities. Sangam literature (2nd century CE) has several references to the sport of bull hugging (ஏறுதழுவல்). It is usually conducted as a part of week-long festivities associated with the Hindu festival of Pongal (Makara Sankranthi).
The day after Pongal is dedicated to bovine farming animals when they are decorated, celebrated and worshipped. However, based on a petition by animal welfare/rights groups, the Supreme Court banned Jallikattu in May 2014. Since then the people of Tamil Nadu have felt victimised over this emotive issue and have perceived this ban to be a grave assault on their longstanding culture, tradition, and worship patterns.
Although the people and politicians of Tamil Nadu blame everyone from animal welfare groups to the Supreme Court, to foreign corporate firms, did the native Dravidian movement wittingly contribute to this degeneration? Can simple apolitical farmers of Tamil Nadu (and elsewhere) understand the machinations of globally organised NGO networks and the Idea-of-India lobby? Can they learn from the vulnerability fostered by more than five decades of Dravidian movement? What can they do to prevent being easy pickings for more of such cultural assaults?
Hinduism (or Sanatana dharma) has always been a fragmented, federated religion that allowed local communities to develop and maintain their own set of graama devatas, agamas, rituals, customs and worship patterns. Tamil Hindu culture is no different. The traditional Hindu society was organised around its local temples with spirituality, social welfare and entertainment practices interwoven together.
This was one of the reasons British missionaries found it hard to crack Hindu society and pursue their conversion agenda. To break this synergistic trinity of social practices, the British establishment divided temple functions into religious and secular functions.
Then the government usurped the secular functions from the temple to debilitate its social welfare contribution. Hindus across India are still grappling with this issue as the management of Hindu temples has been surrendered to the government and wily politicians.
The Dravidian movement picked this issue from where the British left and tried to further divide the Hindu religious practices as Vedic Aryan practices and secular Dravidian practices. Even Gods were divided on these lines. The focus of the Dravidian movement was to make Tamil Hindus shun Vedic Aryan practices and “reclaim” a mythical aboriginal Dravidian identity.
After the linguistic division of states, the Dravidian movement required an image makeover to forge a strong Tamil identity. With a consideration on vote bank politics and in furtherance of the evangelical agenda of Bishop Robert Caldwell (who was a big mentor of the Dravidian movement), they attempted to strip off the Hindu from Tamil Hindu practices in order to craft a synthetic Tamil identity.
For example, Pongal was rebranded as Tamil day (as if Makara Sankaranthi doesn’t exist beyond the Venkatagiri hills) and an earnest attempt was made to disconnect Pongal festivities/worship patterns from where they always belonged – the rural Hindu temples. The underlying motive was to unite Tamils across religions as a part of Pongal celebrations and forge a common Tamil identity; something Kerala has reasonably managed with Onam.
This propaganda promoted by the Dravidian movement had a tremendous impact on the psyche of the Tamil Hindu farming communities (especially the gen-next), and they slowly started to perceive Pongal celebrations as sport/entertainment, devoid of spirituality and social welfare. This obfuscation has run its course for over 40 years, and the Hindu link of the Pongal festivities has been significantly weakened.
Like they say ‘operation successful, patient is dead’; Dravidian movement has failed on two fronts. For one, the synthetic Tamil identity they dreamed of has not materialised across religious lines. Tamil non-Hindus have not taken up Pongal celebrations beyond the usual optics.
That is why you don’t see any prominent church or Muslim organisation campaigning/clamouring for the restoration of Jallikattu. However hard leaders of the Dravidian movement may try to bury this issue, the fact is non-Hindus simply don’t care about this loss.
Second, the “secularised” Pongal celebrations became easy pickings and failed the “essentiality” test for preserving a “regressive” religious practice. The Idea-of-India lobby constituting Nehruvians, commies, and Islamic apologists are always on the lookout for deracinating India of its Hindu roots. The global network of animal welfare NGOs, and foreign-funded rights activists became their coalition partners in this cultural assault.
The most pitiable plight is that of the Tamil Hindu farmers and villagers who were taken for a ride by the Dravidian movement in its selfish quest for a synthetic identity. These farmers did not even understand the machinations of their opponents.
They weren’t even party to the Jallikattu case that led to the ban. Until the SC ban, they seemed to have naively believed that the Tamil Nadu state government will take care of everything.
That is why they even refused to acknowledge the Hindu identity of Jallikattu. During a similar assault by the ‘Idea-of-India’ lobby on the Chidambaram Dikshithars and their traditional rights to conduct rituals at the famous Nataraja temple, they first failed to assess their enemy.
But after the HC verdict, they organised themselves better and had no qualms in reclaiming their Vedic Hindu identity. They started to research/quote the relevant agamas and sutras, going beyond the empty dogmatic claims of tradition. They engaged the reputed Hindutva activist and legal eagle Dr Subramaniam Swamy to eventually thwart their opponents in the SC.
However, naive Tamil Nadu farmers are suffering from a serious identity crisis and are still afraid to reclaim their Tamil Hindu identity. Who knows what would have happened had they engaged a Hindutva activist/lawyer like Dr Swamy before the Jallikattu case went to the SC bench comprising Justice KS Radhakrishnan and Pinaki Chandra Misra? (It’s another matter that some of them subsequently approached Dr Swamy after the ill-fated 2014 judgment, but the war was lost by then!)
The root of this problem is the structured assault on Hindu religious customs by the ‘Idea-of-India’ lobby. Hindus will be able to hold on to any practice which the ‘Idea-of-India’ deems to be “regressive” only if it passes the test of the doctrine of necessity.
Christianity and Islam do not have these worries because they are religions of the book. They associate even a tertiary practice like dressing or lifestyle choice as integral for practising their religion, and their codified book comes to their rescue.
Hindus do not have this luxury because the underlying Dharmic code is neither codified nor centrally controlled. As Hindus get delinked from their roots, it is easy picking for ‘Idea-of-India’. Jallikattu is not the only one in the ‘Idea-of-India’ hit list, but it became one of the first ones to go.
The Dravidian movement had made it easy for ‘Idea-of-India’ lobby – temple elephants, animal sacrifices in Hindu temples (remember the 2014 Himachal HC judgment?), Dahi Handi during Mumbai Gokulashtami celebrations, and the Sabarimala/Shani Shingnapur worship traditions are all in the line of fire. Until all public/social celebration of pagan, Hindu festivals stops (like they managed to ensure in ancient Rome), the battering ram of IoI will continue to push its boundaries.
Dahi Handi
Going back to the naive Tamil Hindu farmers, they have paid a heavy price for putting their trust in the leaders of Dravidian movement. They need to wake up now and reclaim their Hindu identity. If they cannot establish any trace of any socio-cultural practice back to a particular denomination and its Tamil Hindu roots, then sooner or later they are bound to lose it.
The need to understand that the utility of the synthetic linguistic identity is limited; Tamil Hindus should stop naively believing that their non-Hindu brethren would come to their assistance in these fights to preserve their socio-cultural traditions. The practices they cherish and wish to safeguard are essentially Tamil Hindu practices, and the only way to save them is by openly embracing the truth.
Blame everyone other than the SC which is breaching its mandate every day.
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is the SC beyond justified criticism in the media?
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PETA which played the main role in banning Jallikattu - the tradition Pongal sport of Tamil Nadu claiming that it is detrimental to the animal's health is seen going into coma mode during Bakreed when 1000s of cows and goats are cut down.
Why is it that Foreign funded NGOs like PETA always want to play with the rights of Hindus ?
Why is that only the Hindu traditions and practices are targeted ? If PETA really cares about animal lifes, it should have advocated the ban on cow slaughter and not the ban on Jallikatu which actually promotes the growth of indegenous bulls and cows in India ( which the PETA and their American masters want to replace with imported varieties like Jersey )
Anyone who does not know Jalikatu please know this : The bulls are giving such special treatment by their owners that they are almost like a member in their family. These bulls are taken care of very well. And this is not a game of bull fighting of bull capturing. It is merely a game where a person has to hold on to a speeding bull for 15 seconds. These bulls are treated as god and never killed or harmed. Even one drop of blood coming from these bulls is considered a great sin.
An adventure sport that has been in the Tamil culture for 4000 years is suddenly stopped because some group of elites sitting in AC rooms in Delhi feels its wrong ( or that they want to persue their hidden agenda of their American masters of destroying Indian indegenous species ), it is really saddening.
And for all those who think this is animal tourcher. It is not. An animal the size of bull which weighs more than 1 ton can easily carry a person weighing 80kgs and as per rules of the game, only one person can ride on the bull at a time and not 4-5 persons jump on it as you may think. And as I said, these animals are treated sacred and no one will try to harm them during the game. So where does mishandling animals happen ?
Jallikattu 101:
1. Translation from Tamil - "Bull Hugging", not killing or hurting.
2. No Bulls are killed.
3. Bulls are not hurt or attacked like in movies.
4. Some wrong practices have been corrected now. Whole thing happens under the watch of animal rights activists.
5. Reason for this practice is a way to sustain the Bulls to reproduce Indian breed of Cows.
6. This ban is a propaganda to make Indian varieties extinct and replace with european breed.
7. Indian cows produce A2 milk which is good. european varieties produce A1 type which causes diabetes, heart problems, allergy etc.
8. Australia, Brazil and numerous other countries safely secure the Indian varieities of cows.
9. But Indian propagandists want to destroy Indian breed. Hence the ban voices.
10. PETA or Animal rights activists sit in AC rooms, sip their whiskeys and talk animal rights. The farmer who gives you the food and the milk cannot do it. Just because he doesnt have the voice like you morons, dont think you can bulldoze your western views on native culture.
Think and learn
Finally, get lost PETA!!!
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Why is it that Foreign funded NGOs like PETA always want to play with the rights of Hindus ?
Why is that only the Hindu traditions and practices are targeted ? If PETA really cares about animal lifes, it should have advocated the ban on cow slaughter and not the ban on Jallikatu which actually promotes the growth of indegenous bulls and cows in India ( which the PETA and their American masters want to replace with imported varieties like Jersey )
Anyone who does not know Jalikatu please know this : The bulls are giving such special treatment by their owners that they are almost like a member in their family. These bulls are taken care of very well. And this is not a game of bull fighting of bull capturing. It is merely a game where a person has to hold on to a speeding bull for 15 seconds. These bulls are treated as god and never killed or harmed. Even one drop of blood coming from these bulls is considered a great sin.
An adventure sport that has been in the Tamil culture for 4000 years is suddenly stopped because some group of elites sitting in AC rooms in Delhi feels its wrong ( or that they want to persue their hidden agenda of their American masters of destroying Indian indegenous species ), it is really saddening.
And for all those who think this is animal tourcher. It is not. An animal the size of bull which weighs more than 1 ton can easily carry a person weighing 80kgs and as per rules of the game, only one person can ride on the bull at a time and not 4-5 persons jump on it as you may think. And as I said, these animals are treated sacred and no one will try to harm them during the game. So where does mishandling animals happen ?
Jallikattu 101:
1. Translation from Tamil - "Bull Hugging", not killing or hurting.
2. No Bulls are killed.
3. Bulls are not hurt or attacked like in movies.
4. Some wrong practices have been corrected now. Whole thing happens under the watch of animal rights activists.
5. Reason for this practice is a way to sustain the Bulls to reproduce Indian breed of Cows.
6. This ban is a propaganda to make Indian varieties extinct and replace with european breed.
7. Indian cows produce A2 milk which is good. european varieties produce A1 type which causes diabetes, heart problems, allergy etc.
8. Australia, Brazil and numerous other countries safely secure the Indian varieities of cows.
9. But Indian propagandists want to destroy Indian breed. Hence the ban voices.
10. PETA or Animal rights activists sit in AC rooms, sip their whiskeys and talk animal rights. The farmer who gives you the food and the milk cannot do it. Just because he doesnt have the voice like you morons, dont think you can bulldoze your western views on native culture.
Think and learn
Finally, get lost PETA!!!
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Media criticize SC all the time.
But the govt. does not want to confront SC head on. For eg. In the judicial appointment bill, BJP let SC pass away without taking a fight. At some point there has to be confrontation and SC cannot be allowed to run like wild pig.
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A quick correction of pt # 1PETA which played the main role in banning Jallikattu - the tradition Pongal sport of Tamil Nadu claiming that it is detrimental to the animal's health is seen going into coma mode during Bakreed when 1000s of cows and goats are cut down.
Why is it that Foreign funded NGOs like PETA always want to play with the rights of Hindus ?
Why is that only the Hindu traditions and practices are targeted ? If PETA really cares about animal lifes, it should have advocated the ban on cow slaughter and not the ban on Jallikatu which actually promotes the growth of indegenous bulls and cows in India ( which the PETA and their American masters want to replace with imported varieties like Jersey )
Anyone who does not know Jalikatu please know this : The bulls are giving such special treatment by their owners that they are almost like a member in their family. These bulls are taken care of very well. And this is not a game of bull fighting of bull capturing. It is merely a game where a person has to hold on to a speeding bull for 15 seconds. These bulls are treated as god and never killed or harmed. Even one drop of blood coming from these bulls is considered a great sin.
An adventure sport that has been in the Tamil culture for 4000 years is suddenly stopped because some group of elites sitting in AC rooms in Delhi feels its wrong ( or that they want to persue their hidden agenda of their American masters of destroying Indian indegenous species ), it is really saddening.
And for all those who think this is animal tourcher. It is not. An animal the size of bull which weighs more than 1 ton can easily carry a person weighing 80kgs and as per rules of the game, only one person can ride on the bull at a time and not 4-5 persons jump on it as you may think. And as I said, these animals are treated sacred and no one will try to harm them during the game. So where does mishandling animals happen ?
Jallikattu 101:
1. Translation from Tamil - "Bull Hugging", not killing or hurting.
2. No Bulls are killed.
3. Bulls are not hurt or attacked like in movies.
4. Some wrong practices have been corrected now. Whole thing happens under the watch of animal rights activists.
5. Reason for this practice is a way to sustain the Bulls to reproduce Indian breed of Cows.
6. This ban is a propaganda to make Indian varieties extinct and replace with european breed.
7. Indian cows produce A2 milk which is good. european varieties produce A1 type which causes diabetes, heart problems, allergy etc.
8. Australia, Brazil and numerous other countries safely secure the Indian varieities of cows.
9. But Indian propagandists want to destroy Indian breed. Hence the ban voices.
10. PETA or Animal rights activists sit in AC rooms, sip their whiskeys and talk animal rights. The farmer who gives you the food and the milk cannot do it. Just because he doesnt have the voice like you morons, dont think you can bulldoze your western views on native culture.
Think and learn
Finally, get lost PETA!!!
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Jallikattu = Jalli/Salli + Kattu = Coins+ Knot= As in a tied (knotted) packet ( a piece of cloth) with coins inside tied to the horns of the bull.
The other name eruthazhuval = buffalo hugging.
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Again the reason, from sabarimalai to jallikattu, is that vast majority of indians like to play by western rules/demands. They are so indoctrinated that they do it automatically/subconsciously. This is the greatest threat to india because the weapon is attacking, in everybody's house (TV, PC)
So, the girl reading about jallikattu will say "OMG, so barbaric," without even thinking, as an automatic reflex.
Reason: she wants to confirm to the western rules, so that she'll appear "progressive", "modern"
So I guess they are going to ban other sports like bull surfing (also popular in the southern states) because, hey whipping bulls is inhumane, right?
