Vladimir79
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We already know J-XX will be based on J-10. xaxaxain fact ,it was J7's frame that CAC had ready.hahahahaha
http://chn.chinamil.com.cn/xwpdxw/2009-11/23/content_4084111.htm
We already know J-XX will be based on J-10. xaxaxain fact ,it was J7's frame that CAC had ready.hahahahaha
We all know that J- 10 will rip us apart but what I am interested to know is how? please provide us specification of your super jet J10 or stop releasing hot air . This is problem with almost everyone here you all talk big but have little or no fact to back it up.China 5th gen fighter will be just like PAK-FA, a 5th gen fighter in name but a psydo 5th gen fighter in reality. Face it Russia currently does not possess the know-how or the manufacuring prowess, nor the money (pushing 100 billion dollars) needed to make a true stealth fighter, so the PAK-FA or FGFA or what ever it maybe called, will turn out to be no more than a revamped Su-27. Similarly I don't think China currently possess the technology, nor the intention to spend the tens of billions of dollars necessary, to make a true 5th-gen fighter. China's 5-th gen fighter will be a revamped, twin engined J-10, that's my opinion, good at dealing with whatever India might throw at China in the next 30 years, but falling far short of taking on the mighty F22.
The PAKFA a revamped Su27? hahah dude get your facts rights! The Internal Weapons bay itself makes your argument fall flat! The IWB is the first sign of stealth and the Russians have done it! With the new engines and all, the intakes and all will be perfected and Mind it, its just the First Prototype you are seeing! The Chinese cant make a decent engine for a 4th Gen Fighter, and they compare themselves with the Russians and have the audacity to call the PAKFA a revamped Su27!!!China 5th gen fighter will be just like PAK-FA, a 5th gen fighter in name but a psydo 5th gen fighter in reality. Face it Russia currently does not possess the know-how or the manufacuring prowess, nor the money (pushing 100 billion dollars) needed to make a true stealth fighter, so the PAK-FA or FGFA or what ever it maybe called, will turn out to be no more than a revamped Su-27. Similarly I don't think China currently possess the technology, nor the intention to spend the tens of billions of dollars necessary, to make a true 5th-gen fighter. China's 5-th gen fighter will be a revamped, twin engined J-10, that's my opinion, good at dealing with whatever India might throw at China in the next 30 years, but falling far short of taking on the mighty F22.
why dont you send one of J10 for fight with Mig 21, Mig 29 and SU30 MKI, if we found it ok we might get the same from china.J10 has consistently beat Su27 in mock-combat, that's enough evidence for me that J10 will hold its own in any hyperthetical confrontation betwen China and India, before 2020 at least. Currently you don't poseess too many jets that are bette than Su27, your Mirage2000 is over 2 decades old, and is of earlier design, your Mig29 is probably nearing the end of its service life. Yes, you can say we will have this, or that, but the truth is China will not be sitting stand-still either. I'm firmly in belief that China now can go toe-to-toe with any new offering Russia has for India. Yes if India chooses Euro Fighter, it will be give India en edge, but the so-called 5th gen fighter China is going to field will certainly be at least competitve.
I never said that J10 will 'ripe' the IAF apart, but it or its derivative will be no-push over either. Too often the folks here have overestimated the true capabilities of russian equipment.
J10 has consistently beat Su27 in mock-combat,
Yes if India chooses Euro Fighter, it will be give India en edge,
I never said that J10 will 'ripe' the IAF apart,
I would really appreciate if you talk some technical stuffs rather than releasing hot air . I am not able to breath properly. Its just better than this and better than that but nothing about how. Whats the range of RADAR for J10 B and what are weapons that will be used in that . Hope you understand what I am saying here . When someone says that SUkhoi 30 is best he has facts and technical information to back it up . SO please come with some technical specifications. I am not interested in knowing how much money was spent on which plane.J10 has consistently beat Su27 in mock-combat, that's enough evidence for me that J10 will hold its own in any hyperthetical confrontation betwen China and India, before 2020 at least. Currently you don't poseess too many jets that are bette than Su27, your Mirage2000 is over 2 decades old, and is of earlier design, your Mig29 is probably nearing the end of its service life. Yes, you can say we will have this, or that, but the truth is China will not be sitting stand-still either. I'm firmly in belief that China now can go toe-to-toe with any new offering Russia has for India. Yes if India chooses Euro Fighter, it will be give India en edge, but the so-called 5th gen fighter China is going to field will certainly be at least competitve.
I never said that J10 will 'ripe' the IAF apart, but it or its derivative will be no-push over either. Too often the folks here have overestimated the true capabilities of russian equipment.
the statement that "Chines Su27 was beaten by Turkish F-4," is a troll which originally appeared in Chinese forums like CD.BTW read somewhere that Chines Su27 was beaten by Turkish F-4, are you sure that Russians have given you state of the art tech for SU 27 ???.
Wow, Saarji, You are really a superb Scientist, economist, strategist, politician, etc etc etc. then why are typing over your filthy keyboard. Go and join the Politburo.:emot180:China 5th gen fighter will be just like PAK-FA, a 5th gen fighter in name but a psydo 5th gen fighter in reality. Face it Russia currently does not possess the know-how or the manufacuring prowess, nor the money (pushing 100 billion dollars) needed to make a true stealth fighter, so the PAK-FA or FGFA or what ever it maybe called, will turn out to be no more than a revamped Su-27. Similarly I don't think China currently possess the technology, nor the intention to spend the tens of billions of dollars necessary, to make a true 5th-gen fighter. China's 5-th gen fighter will be a revamped, twin engined J-10, that's my opinion, good at dealing with whatever India might throw at China in the next 30 years, but falling far short of taking on the mighty F22.
Yeah you people are very very intelligent and then post that MiG-19 beats the Su-30MKK hands down and will tell it is a teaching of Sun Tsu to show yourself as Underdogs?:emot15:the statement that "Chines Su27 was beaten by Turkish F-4," is a troll which originally appeared in Chinese forums like CD.
the troll in fact appeared before the mission started,which has made CHinese defence ministry clarify the case....haha
J-10A the current model uses a mechanically-scanned doppler-pulse radar (KLJ10), with an effective range about 100 km for Mig-21 sized targets, it can track 10 targets and engage 4 of them simultanously . The main missiles are infrared PL-8 (15km )and active guided PL-12 (> 70 km). But more advanced models are under development.I would really appreciate if you talk some technical stuffs rather than releasing hot air . I am not able to breath properly. Its just better than this and better than that but nothing about how. Whats the range of RADAR for J10 B and what are weapons that will be used in that . Hope you understand what I am saying here . When someone says that SUkhoi 30 is best he has facts and technical information to back it up . SO please come with some technical specifications. I am not interested in knowing how much money was spent on which plane.
Thats why i said to 'You are high on opium' just sit and *****.USAF F-15C were supposedly beaten badly by IAF jets in an exercise a few years ago, should you thus conclude that IAF will win in a landslide in a real confrontation with the USAF?
For your reference http://indianairforce.nic.in/show_page.php?pg_id=144When questioned on the capabilities of IAF pilots, Col Greg Newbech, USAF Team Leader made the following remarks: - "What we've seen in the last two weeks is, the IAF can stand toe-to-toe with best AF in the world. I pity the pilot who has to face the IAF and chances the day to underestimate him; because he won't be going home. Indian hospitality from everyone has been truly overwhelming. The greatest compliment we heard from an IAF pilot, 'You American pilots are just like us, simply down to earth people.' We depart India with great respect for the Indian Air Force. Your pilots, maint and support crew are exceptional professionals.
Please address to whom and who you are addressing? Else it may create a confusion.What was he supposed to say, like 'you guys suck, we went easy and were just toying with you guys'? That guy was being diplomatic.
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