Israel eying Pakistan as ally in Muslim world

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It didnt matter in foreign policy relations.Arent pakistanis killing usa soldiers in afghanistan.or didnt ISI helped conspire 9/11.
Shouldn't Pakistan first OFFICIALLY recognize Israel before becoming an ally??
 

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Shouldn't Pakistan first OFFICIALLY recognize Israel before becoming an ally??
LF, you and me both know that Israel taking Pakistan as an ally is bogus. Its just that some folks have no other job but to churn out such news and then some others take it up in the forum world and jump all over it without any basis!!
 
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LF, you and me both know that Israel taking Pakistan as an ally is bogus. Its just that some folks have no other job but to churn out such news and then some others take it up in the forum world and jump all over it without any basis!!
Ahmed it would actually be a good way of showing the world Pakistan is starting to moderate;if this ever were to happen, if the Turks can recognize Israel 60 years ago others can too.
 

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Looks like one more plain has crashed in moron air force base(south block)!

The author is very dubious and i dont see any indian reporter floating the same report. The author is a terrorist.
 

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Ahmed it would actually be a good way of showing the world Pakistan is starting to moderate;if this ever were to happen, if the Turks can recognize Israel 60 years ago others can too.
Lf the question in this is gain for Israel. Israel gain lot of business through Turks . Will Pakistan be economically better option for Israel compared to India . If yes they wont mind aligning with Pakistan. And most important factor is home audience of pakistan. will they accept it?
 

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Simply WTF.

pakistan wants it audience to be loud in the kashmir issue and they are shouting it as here is another palestine and blah blah blah. Who cares this funky *ss h*les.

Pakistan need kashmir for only sole reasons, rivers flowing through it and to keep a check to the Sindh in water.

Also Israel wont commit a mistake like this. Pakistan sees the Israel as enemy to the Muslim world (Zaid Hameed and all funny peoples) and Israel flaring their own *ss. There is nothing with the Pakistan for Israel.
 

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Looks like one more plain has crashed in moron air force base(south block)!

The author is very dubious and i dont see any indian reporter floating the same report. The author is a terrorist.
Propaganda machines are too dangerous. I treat most of the news from bakistan as funny example 'Hindu terrorist on rampage in Mumbai' :emot180:
 
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Lf the question in this is gain for Israel. Israel gain lot of business through Turks . Will Pakistan be economically better option for Israel compared to India . If yes they wont mind aligning with Pakistan. And most important factor is home audience of pakistan. will they accept it?
we have to clearly define what ALLIANCE means in the modern world?? There are countries that do buisness together while being enemies (usa-china), there are countries that were enemies now cooperating for common causes(usa-russia). there are countries that are under a military umbrella(NATO) and there are countries that are allied for resources(SCO,OPEC).There are nations allied for diplomatic reasons(japan-USA) There are no real permanent ALLIES in the traditional sense anymore even NATO alliance is not the same or may not be with 25% of the nations in NATO in economic distress. As you pointed out where does Israeli-Pakistan alliance figure in the simplified scheme of things??
 

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As long as we are the hypocritical Islamic Republic of Pakistan, we can never be friends to those who are different in their views on life. 90% or more Pakistanis view Jews and Israelis just like Ahmedinejad views them. Befriending Israel before removing the "Islamic" from Republic of Pakistan and not having an educated and active voter base sympathetic to the struggles of Israel just like Pakistan struggled for independence, Pakistan will still be client/tissue state instead of friend and partner of just about anyone.
 

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LF as i mentioned earlier most interesting aspect of this alliance will be reaction of Pakistani clowns like Zaid hamid and his clones. As you mentioned many countries are in allainec due to some fear or to gain something out of that cooperation or alliance . Say if Israel and Pakistan become friend . What is there to gain for both of them specially in terms of Israel . Will Pakistan be able to provide them orders worth crores of rupees or will Pakistani economy be of more interest to them compared to Indian economy ? Even USA is with pakistan due to Afghanistan war . once war is over Americans wont give S**t to Pakistan economy or military. In this alliance Israel has nothing to gain but a lot to loose.
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Mullahs would be foaming at the mouth and organizations like Good Taliban and TTP would score big victory points and enforce their sharia all over with the help of defectors in the establishment. It would be a loss for civility in South Asia. Israel can not become Super Duper Extra Halal Islamic Republic of Pakistan's ally for logical reasons.
 
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This is just a sensationalist writing by a useless jerk.

Indo-Israel ties are strong and mutually beneficial. Israel has no need for Pakistan, it simply doesn't need to care. There has not been a single Paksitani jihadi ever caught in Palestine despite all the noises they make on the internet.
 

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First of all,it is unnecessary to attack a journalist just because you might not agree with his point of view. HE was recently awarded the Shaitya Academy award so he is a very highly regarded Indian journalist Iftikhar Gilani wins Sahitya Akademi award

Secondly, this is his take on it. Forget the headline, read the primary source content. The main issue is not allying with Pakistan although that was being thrown around. It was about drawing parallels with Palestine and Kashmir. I don't want to even go into the details of how insulting this would be to the suffering of the Palestinian people as that would be off topic. A pertinent google search on that would be enough.

Like I alluded earlier, anyone who is well aware of the situation of the Palestinians and the Kashmiris would NOT compare the Israeli-Palestinian issue with the Kashmir issue. There is a wide gulf there. India does not use helicopter gunships and phosphorous bombs in the valley. Nor is it disposseing people of their land and settling outsiders by establishing compartmentalised settlements. Andmost important of all, the IA is not involved in day to day crowd control in Kashmir unlike the Israeli Army in Palestine.


There is no "break off" or "downgrading" of relationship here. Israel is just trying to widen its small group of freinds and south asian countries that have a large number of muslims is a big catch. Despite all the rhetoric, the problem is basically an Arab-Israeli issue and NOT a Jewish-Muslim issue as is made out by some fanatics.
Hence, the constant effort of Israel in roping in muslims scholars and Urdu journalists in particular from India. Just like India continues to have excellent and strong relationships with Gulf countries, Iran and Israel at the same time. Israel would like to do the same with India and Pakistan (and China) in the long term. It should not be a surprise.
 
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my take is turkey-Pakistan relation has always been special and turkey has always supported Pakistan viz-viz India. so when turkey is itself trying to DISTANCE away from ISRAEL can Pakistan afford to get close relations with Israel . off course they can have quiet diplomacy likes Indian with Israel
 

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The moment those Israelis decide to side Pakistan or even comment on Kashmir, you can expect India to respond aptly with defence deals.

But yes, I've been saying this all the time (from the free trade agreement discussion) and I'll say it again. Never trust Israel.
 
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Israel has more need for us than we have for them.

I dont trust them anyways..
 

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India's long term International interests are not compromised by every now & then's kinky adventures or attempts of parasitic countries. Israel wants to befriend Pak? Good thing. Countries over globe should be together. Now if it comes to know that some UAVs or weaponry exchange will be part of this friendship, Israel knows very well that they'll get a tight slap from Indian establishment while they can forget the money & any co-operation from India.

Although, it can also be case to stop Russia from helping Iran through India by this terrible affair. Iran is headache for USA & Russia is helping Iran. In similar fashion Israel might want to bed with Pak while Pak is enemy #1 for India. Now it becomes hard talk for the so-called all weather allies like India-Russia, so who can get off from who's interests.

In any case, India's long term goals are not in danger. Pak has got enough problems of its own and making it ally is like betting on paralyzed horse.
 
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India's long term International interests are not compromised by every now & then's kinky adventures or attempts of parasitic countries. Israel wants to befriend Pak? Good thing. Countries over globe should be together. Now if it comes to know that some UAVs or weaponry exchange will be part of this friendship, Israel knows very well that they'll get a tight slap from Indian establishment while they can forget the money & any co-operation from India.

Although, it can also be case to stop Russia from helping Iran through India by this terrible affair. Iran is headache for USA & Russia is helping Iran. In similar fashion Israel might want to bed with Pak while Pak is enemy #1 for India. Now it becomes hard talk for the so-called all weather allies like India-Russia, so who can get off from who's interests.

In any case, India's long term goals are not in danger. Pak has got enough problems of its own and making it ally is like betting on paralyzed horse.
This all maybe an attempt to further divide the islamic world , possibly keep pakistan from taking Iranian side in a future conflict??
 

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This all maybe an attempt to further divide the islamic world , possibly keep pakistan from taking Iranian side in a future conflict??
Might be true. But in that case they'll woo Pak with whatever they can. Too bad if they get the Pak's Nuke deal through.

In fact to be honest, this entire Middle east & Islamic world has become toy of West specially US. They do not realize how much hazardous it is for the common countrymen of these nations. I don't know if situation goes off their hand someday & they bloody nuke down the scape.

Although thats an exaggeration! :funny_2:
 

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