ISIS wants to conquer India
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'White Shroud,' A Guerrilla Group Fighting Back Against ISIS
Guerrilla Groups Hunting ISIS Militants - Business Insider
BEIRUT (Reuters) - Small groups of Syrians are hunting down Islamic State fighters in one of their main strongholds in eastern Syria in a new guerrilla campaign that has emerged as a response to the Islamists' growing brutality.
The main aim is to generate fear in Islamic State's ranks, said the head of "White Shroud" — a group that says it has killed more than 100 Islamic State fighters in attacks in Deir al-Zor province in recent months.
The name reflects that aim: White Shroud is a reference to the death shroud it says awaits Islamic State fighters responsible for crimes against the Syrian people, said the group's leader, Abu Aboud, in an interview via Skype.
As the United States advances plans to train and equip the moderate opposition to President Bashar al-Assad as part of its strategy to tackle Islamic State, the appearance of such groups shows how it has generated new enemies on the ground.
Abu Aboud, who declined to give his real name for security reasons, was a commander in an anti-Assad insurgent group crushed by the better-armed and financed Islamic State as it seized almost full control of Deir al-Zor earlier this year.
The small band he now leads is in no position to deal a major blow to Islamic State. But it does pose an extra challenge as the United States and its allies target the group in air strikes in both Syria and Iraq.
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which tracks the war, has recorded a rising number of attacks by gunmen on Islamic State targets in Deir al-Zor province. Together with Raqqa province further north, Deir al-Zor forms the bedrock of Islamic State's influence in Syria.
White Shroud shows no mercy to Islamic State: when it manages to abduct one of its members, it is only to "liquidate" him later on, said Abu Aboud.
It operates in and around the town of Al Bukamal at the Iraqi border — an area of crucial importance to the Islamic State as the link between the territory it controls in Syria and Iraq. The group currently numbers 300 members, said Abu Aboud.
"Eighty percent of the members of White Shroud did not take part in combat before (Islamic State) came. We trained them and they joined White Shroud because of the great oppression they felt after Islamic State took control," said Abu Aboud.
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights says White Shroud is one of several small groups that have taken up arms against Islamic State in Deir al-Zor province in recent months and are picking off Islamic State fighters whenever they get the chance.
They have all taken similarly menacing names. These include the "Phantom Brigade" and "The Brigade of the Angel of Death", said Rami Abdulrahman, who runs the Observatory, which says it gathers information from sources on all sides of the conflict.
Increasing Attacks
One such group killed no fewer than 10 Islamic State fighters in a nighttime gun attack on a checkpoint in the town of Al Mayadin in Deir al-Zor province last Thursday, the Observatory reported. In a separate attack, a gunman on a motor bike opened fire on another Islamic State checkpoint.
"There is an increase in their operations against Islamic State," Abdulrahman said.
The Islamic State has made plenty of enemies during its conquest of Deir al-Zor, an oil-producing region.
It expelled most other insurgent groups from Deir al-Zor in July, emboldened by rapid gains in Iraq where it seized the city of Mosul in June, capturing with it Iraqi army equipment that has been deployed in Syria.
Mirroring its approach elsewhere, the Islamic State has used crucifixions and decapitations to suppress all opposition in Deir al-Zor. It executed 700 members of one rebellious tribe, the Sheitaat, in August, the Observatory reported.
Members of anti-Assad armed groups loosely referred to as the "Free Syrian Army" had the choice of fleeing, submitting to Islamic State rule, or death. The Nusra Front, al Qaeda's official affiliate in Deir al-Zor, withdrew from the province.
The Syrian government still controls a portion of Deir al-Zor city and its airport.
"Secrecy is the most important element of White Shroud's work," said Abu Aboud. The group comprises four-man "cells" that work independently of each other, Abu Aboud said.
One of White Shroud's biggest operations was an attack on an Islamic State position in Al Bukamal in which around 11 Islamic State fighters were killed, according to the Observatory and Abu Aboud.
The U.S.-led air strikes are not making White Shroud's job easier, said Abu Aboud. Where Islamic State fighters once used to gather in large numbers, they now move in small groups, often at night, using motor bikes.
White Shroud's spokesman said the group is using weapons that formerly belonged to anti-Assad rebel groups.
The spokesman, who gave his name as Abu Ali Albukamali, said that despite its modest resources, White Shroud had achieved its goal: "The aim of this group - spreading fear among Islamic State members — has been realised. Today, you never meet them walking alone. They mostly move in groups, afraid of abduction."
(Writing by Tom Perry; Editing by Samia Nakhoul and Giles Elgood)
Guerrilla Groups Hunting ISIS Militants - Business Insider
BEIRUT (Reuters) - Small groups of Syrians are hunting down Islamic State fighters in one of their main strongholds in eastern Syria in a new guerrilla campaign that has emerged as a response to the Islamists' growing brutality.
The main aim is to generate fear in Islamic State's ranks, said the head of "White Shroud" — a group that says it has killed more than 100 Islamic State fighters in attacks in Deir al-Zor province in recent months.
The name reflects that aim: White Shroud is a reference to the death shroud it says awaits Islamic State fighters responsible for crimes against the Syrian people, said the group's leader, Abu Aboud, in an interview via Skype.
As the United States advances plans to train and equip the moderate opposition to President Bashar al-Assad as part of its strategy to tackle Islamic State, the appearance of such groups shows how it has generated new enemies on the ground.
Abu Aboud, who declined to give his real name for security reasons, was a commander in an anti-Assad insurgent group crushed by the better-armed and financed Islamic State as it seized almost full control of Deir al-Zor earlier this year.
The small band he now leads is in no position to deal a major blow to Islamic State. But it does pose an extra challenge as the United States and its allies target the group in air strikes in both Syria and Iraq.
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which tracks the war, has recorded a rising number of attacks by gunmen on Islamic State targets in Deir al-Zor province. Together with Raqqa province further north, Deir al-Zor forms the bedrock of Islamic State's influence in Syria.
White Shroud shows no mercy to Islamic State: when it manages to abduct one of its members, it is only to "liquidate" him later on, said Abu Aboud.
It operates in and around the town of Al Bukamal at the Iraqi border — an area of crucial importance to the Islamic State as the link between the territory it controls in Syria and Iraq. The group currently numbers 300 members, said Abu Aboud.
"Eighty percent of the members of White Shroud did not take part in combat before (Islamic State) came. We trained them and they joined White Shroud because of the great oppression they felt after Islamic State took control," said Abu Aboud.
The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights says White Shroud is one of several small groups that have taken up arms against Islamic State in Deir al-Zor province in recent months and are picking off Islamic State fighters whenever they get the chance.
They have all taken similarly menacing names. These include the "Phantom Brigade" and "The Brigade of the Angel of Death", said Rami Abdulrahman, who runs the Observatory, which says it gathers information from sources on all sides of the conflict.
Increasing Attacks
One such group killed no fewer than 10 Islamic State fighters in a nighttime gun attack on a checkpoint in the town of Al Mayadin in Deir al-Zor province last Thursday, the Observatory reported. In a separate attack, a gunman on a motor bike opened fire on another Islamic State checkpoint.
"There is an increase in their operations against Islamic State," Abdulrahman said.
The Islamic State has made plenty of enemies during its conquest of Deir al-Zor, an oil-producing region.
It expelled most other insurgent groups from Deir al-Zor in July, emboldened by rapid gains in Iraq where it seized the city of Mosul in June, capturing with it Iraqi army equipment that has been deployed in Syria.
Mirroring its approach elsewhere, the Islamic State has used crucifixions and decapitations to suppress all opposition in Deir al-Zor. It executed 700 members of one rebellious tribe, the Sheitaat, in August, the Observatory reported.
Members of anti-Assad armed groups loosely referred to as the "Free Syrian Army" had the choice of fleeing, submitting to Islamic State rule, or death. The Nusra Front, al Qaeda's official affiliate in Deir al-Zor, withdrew from the province.
The Syrian government still controls a portion of Deir al-Zor city and its airport.
"Secrecy is the most important element of White Shroud's work," said Abu Aboud. The group comprises four-man "cells" that work independently of each other, Abu Aboud said.
One of White Shroud's biggest operations was an attack on an Islamic State position in Al Bukamal in which around 11 Islamic State fighters were killed, according to the Observatory and Abu Aboud.
The U.S.-led air strikes are not making White Shroud's job easier, said Abu Aboud. Where Islamic State fighters once used to gather in large numbers, they now move in small groups, often at night, using motor bikes.
White Shroud's spokesman said the group is using weapons that formerly belonged to anti-Assad rebel groups.
The spokesman, who gave his name as Abu Ali Albukamali, said that despite its modest resources, White Shroud had achieved its goal: "The aim of this group - spreading fear among Islamic State members — has been realised. Today, you never meet them walking alone. They mostly move in groups, afraid of abduction."
(Writing by Tom Perry; Editing by Samia Nakhoul and Giles Elgood)
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India bans ISIS, hunts for sympathisers | The Indian Express
India on Tuesday declared a ban on Islamic State, days after having detained an engineer for running a popular Twitter account extolling the militant group's military campaign. India has the world's third-largest population of Muslims, but they have largely shunned Islamist causes. Police say only four Indians are known to have joined Islamic State, and one has since returned and is in custody. Until now, India had held off on a ban on Islamic State, because of the group's lack of activity in the country and worries over the fate of 39 Indian construction workers missing in Iraq this year, who are believed to be held by the group. Officials had also suggested it would be harder to track sympathizers if the group was banned, driving them towards covert activity. Home Minister Rajnath Singh told parliament the government aimed to limit the activities of the Middle Eastern group which has carved out swathes of territory in Iraq and Syria. "We had taken cognizance of Islamic State in Iraq and Syria activities in other countries," he said. "As a first step we have banned this outfit in India." On Saturday, police picked up Mehdi Masoor Biswas, a 24-year old food company executive from the southern tech hub of Bengaluru, saying he was running the pro-Islamic State Twitter handle @ShamiWitness that had 17,800 followers, including hundreds of foreign fighters for the group. Police were poring over 129,000 tweets he had posted over several years to determine if he was simply a cheerleader for the group or an online recruiter, an officer said. "It is true the number of Indians in the group or involved in its activities is only a handful," Singh said. "But I want to make clear we are taking this seriously." A ban on the group makes it easier for police to prosecute suspects, an aide said. Officials had feared a ban on Islamic State could endanger the lives of 39 men believed to be held by the group since June. There has been no word yet on the fate of the workers. - See more at: India bans ISIS, hunts for sympathisers | The Indian Express
India on Tuesday declared a ban on Islamic State, days after having detained an engineer for running a popular Twitter account extolling the militant group's military campaign. India has the world's third-largest population of Muslims, but they have largely shunned Islamist causes. Police say only four Indians are known to have joined Islamic State, and one has since returned and is in custody. Until now, India had held off on a ban on Islamic State, because of the group's lack of activity in the country and worries over the fate of 39 Indian construction workers missing in Iraq this year, who are believed to be held by the group. Officials had also suggested it would be harder to track sympathizers if the group was banned, driving them towards covert activity. Home Minister Rajnath Singh told parliament the government aimed to limit the activities of the Middle Eastern group which has carved out swathes of territory in Iraq and Syria. "We had taken cognizance of Islamic State in Iraq and Syria activities in other countries," he said. "As a first step we have banned this outfit in India." On Saturday, police picked up Mehdi Masoor Biswas, a 24-year old food company executive from the southern tech hub of Bengaluru, saying he was running the pro-Islamic State Twitter handle @ShamiWitness that had 17,800 followers, including hundreds of foreign fighters for the group. Police were poring over 129,000 tweets he had posted over several years to determine if he was simply a cheerleader for the group or an online recruiter, an officer said. "It is true the number of Indians in the group or involved in its activities is only a handful," Singh said. "But I want to make clear we are taking this seriously." A ban on the group makes it easier for police to prosecute suspects, an aide said. Officials had feared a ban on Islamic State could endanger the lives of 39 men believed to be held by the group since June. There has been no word yet on the fate of the workers. - See more at: India bans ISIS, hunts for sympathisers | The Indian Express
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ISIS wants to conquer half the world. But there is something about non-Moslem, Hindu India that particularly peeves fanatical Moslems. They really have a thing about conquering India, like this Ghazwa-e-Hind drivel.
ISIS dominion indicative of their plans that include India.
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Perhaps a pre-emptive strike or strikes are in order. They must be very quick and very hard. This is a possibility worth exploring, I suppose.
Perhaps RAF Bomber Command's motto may be instructive here:
Strike Hard. Strike Sure.
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India remains a "soft power" not because she wants to, but because she doesn't have an option. Government of India mobilized the army after the Indian Parliament Attack of 2001. This mobilization exposed the rot within. Indian forces suffered several hundred non-combat deaths.Perhaps a pre-emptive strike or strikes are in order. They must be very quick and very hard. This is a possibility worth exploring, I suppose.
Perhaps RAF Bomber Command's motto may be instructive here:
Strike Hard. Strike Sure.
2001–02 India–Pakistan standoff - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Indian Army hasn't changed much since WW2. But the super-egoist armchair generals refuse to see the truth. Truth is that the Indian political establishment doubts the capabilities of the Indian Defence forces that is why we did nothing even after being bled by Pakistan repeatedly.
Pakistan's nukes are not the deterrent, our own lethargic and inadequate security apparatus is.
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789 non-battle casualties are high. Were the Indian soldiers killed by their own mines while laying them? If the mines were faulty, the responsible party or parties, military or civilian, ought to have been sacked.
If one's armed forces are lethargic and inadequate, there is a problem with motivation. On the psychological side, morale might be low. This might come from the top down or it might not. Quite often low morale is the result of poor leadership. A lack of vigour, energy, and concentration in one's armed forces is very dangerous and if it goes too far, it causes the forces to decay, both psychologically and materially. India must watch that sort thing very closely and take measures to remedy the situation where it sees this sort of problem occurring. The late FM Sam Manekshaw must be turning in his grave.
There is the problem with motivation and morale right there. The Indian political establishment has little or no confidence in the Indian armed forces. No wonder the Indian security apparatus is lethargic and inadequate. Clearly, reform is in order if this is so! Seriously, if India needs to reform her armed forces then she should do it as quickly and as efficaciously as possible. India is too important to have rot appearing in her armed forces which need to be substantial, tough, disciplined, highly motivated, and alert, and rock-solidly reliable. India is in too important a part of the world although it is a rough region, I'm the first to admit, and India has enemy states on her western border and to her north. Naturally if she is to thrive and prosper, she has to be as secure as possible, and for that she needs to be militarily strong.
Pakistan is not India's worst enemy. The P.R.C. is India's worst enemy. And if Indian forces cannot inflict a significant and decisive defeat on Pakistani forces in battle, then they have no hope of defeating Communist Chinese forces, who are much better trained and disciplined, more militarily proficient, and much better motivated than Pakistani soldiers. The Communist Chinese will be a much harder and stronger enemy than the Pakistanis.
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Everyone dream and already dreamt of marrying Aishwariya Rai........
BUT TO VEIN.......
In the present scenario it is not possible to conquer any country so easily. If it was so easy then India would have conquered pakistan long back........
BUT TO VEIN.......
In the present scenario it is not possible to conquer any country so easily. If it was so easy then India would have conquered pakistan long back........
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It's actually Politicians the culprit and overall the corrupt system.
Defense Forces suffers.
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What kind of political interference resulted in the poor performance of the IA during the 2001-02 standoff? It was not Mobilization, it was a total chaos. I have seen things from inside, and I can say with conviction that money is not the only reason behind capable mid-level officers quitting the army in droves. IA needs structural and deep reforms otherwise India's dream of becoming a Great Power will remain a dream.
Let us not blame everything on politics, politicians and generals both are benefactors of corruption. One form of corruption cannot survive without the other form of corruption.
This is George Bush's 'We fight them over there, so we don't have to fight them over here (US)'. The argument has some merit but one has to be seriously careful due to whole range of reasons.
Besides, before they reach India, they'd have to capture a lot of others. If they weaken some of our neighbours (read one neighbour), what's the problem?
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So we agree on one point: Indian armed forces cannot fight our wars on enemy soil. Let us not bring in 1971, the local population of Bangladesh wasn't hostile.
Truth is that Indian Army is not much different from the British Indian Army. Not much has changed. And yes, we need to chase ISIS and eliminate it before it becomes a threat to our country. If ISIS manages to weaken Pakistan do we benefit? I seriously doubt that. Dealing with the mad men in PA and ISI is much easier than dealing with the ISIS. Plus, there are many foot soldiers in India ready to join ISIS when right moment comes.
Our soldiers on the ground. No way. Air support if someone else is willing to send their soldiers, maybe. Other logistic, financial support, sure.
There is never a blanket answer and its never simple. If Pak is weakened, we do benefit. If the nukes are in danger of falling into the IS madmen's hands, the world will have to step in to take them away. That helps us. IS taking over Pak entirely would be a disaster for us and the world.
Their supporters in India are a whole another issue and first step is no-nonsense, firm anti-terror laws. Let the stupid liberals whine about it targeting a community.
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What???
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Their territorial ambitions will never end. As per their inspiration, the Quran, 'the whole world should be under the blanket of one god Allah and one religion Islam.
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Why ISIS is after India?
If it was 100 years back, I would have understand that India was known as "Sone ki chidiya" (Golden Bird) but since Britishers took everything, why are they still after India?
Go after UK and USA if you really have the balls to conquer.
If it was 100 years back, I would have understand that India was known as "Sone ki chidiya" (Golden Bird) but since Britishers took everything, why are they still after India?
Go after UK and USA if you really have the balls to conquer.
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ISIS is a Sunni organization. That means they have to first fight Shia Muslims in all the countries before they even reach Indian boundaries. Means muslims fighting muslims? India should not join fight against ISIS at this moment. Just be watchful of the events to unfold unless it becomes our battle. Unless ISIS reach pakistan, we dont need to worry. Once it reaches pakistan, India along with world community should raid and sieze nuclear arsenel from Pakistan and take it into our control. I believe ISIS will die within Arab world only.
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My pet dog has a higher probability of conquering the Universe than ISIS 's probability of conquering India.
