ISIS orders genital mutilation of all women

[bose]

ISIS clan hardly qualifies to be called muslims. The more un-Quranic practices they introduce, the more they distance themselves from the religion of peace.

There are only four refrences in Quran for womens dress code and none of them comes even close to a burqa. Bibi Khadija, Mohammeds late wife was a succesful and independant businesswoman who never acuired male company when being on outcalls.

As far as womens circumcision is concerned, its unislamic. The custom exists in some backward countries like Somalia, Southern Egypt, Sudan, Eritrea and Yemen and should be seen as a cultral thing, not a religious ritual.

So stop bashing Islam. ISIS is a medieval army which wants to spread medieval arab culture across the borders in.the name of Islam. But anyone who is versed in the Quranic wisdom will agree that ISIS has chosen the wrong path.

It is million dollar question "who is a true Muslims" ISIS ? Boko Haramis ? Taliban ? LET ? Ahamadias ? Hafiz Saeed ? Al Quada ? Jamaat Islami ?? Saudi monarch ? Wahabis ? Deobandis ?

Please let us know...

 

[Neo]

Neo, i wish you are correct but then why the islamic scholars and religious figures dont say anything to reject or condem it....???


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Just like the socalled ummah, the scholars are not united in a pan-islamic body, they operate induvually
or issue fatwas for their followers.

Some.however enjoy international respect and recognition for their objective knowledge and often scientific research on islam.

Here's one of them:

On February, 6th 2013, Syaih Abdinur Mohamed Mohamud, Imam of Dar El Eman Islamic Center was invited to give a speech in a seminar on the International Day against Female Genital Mutilation/Cutting titled "UN Resolution against FGM/C: Seizing the Momentum – Facing the Opposition" in Oslo, which was held by The Norwegian Agency for Development Cooperation (Norad). Below is the copy of the speech.

No – Islam Rejects Female Genital Mutilation
Speech given in the seminar on the International Day against Female Genital
Mutilation/Cutting: Seizing the Momentum – Facing the Opposition
Oslo, 6 February 2013

Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen,
It is probably a strange thing for a person to stand up and speak and
even write about something contradict the belief and practice of most of
the people in his society where he came from. The essential problem of
this primitive custom of female circumcision is"¦ it is believed to be
sourced from Islamic teaching, which is not true. Therefore, as an Islamic
scholar specialized in the Science of Hadith, I have an obligation to bring
this issue to the light of the correct understanding of Hadith and Quran
by writing a book titled "Islam say no to female circumcision", which I
am going to share with you all in this very nice opportunity.

Read the full article:
No- Islam Rejects Female Genital Mutilation | Dar El Eman Islamic Center

 

[LastProphet]

Even if they operate ununitrd, they shall rise to the occassion and denounce it now...atleast for the safety of their own sisters and daughters...if not for others...this issue is totally disgusting...!!!


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[Neo]

It is million dollar question "who is a true Muslims" ISIS ? Boko Haramis ? Taliban ? LET ? Ahamadias ? Hafiz Saeed ? Al Quada ? Jamaat Islami ?? Saudi monarch ? Wahabis ? Deobandis ?

Please let us know...

Anyone killing innocent people, muslims and non muslims, automatucally disqualifies to be called a muslim. If militant organisations like PLO, Hamas, Hezbullah, TTP, LeT, JuD or any other jiihadi outfits think they are muslims and will get 72 virgins fighting their interpretation of jihad, they are wrong. Instead of 72 virgins they will find a seven layered hell waiting for them.

All these militant organisations have political agendas, they are fighting for power using religion.as.a shield to mislead and manipulate jahil awam. Their leaders are indulged in unislamic practices, they often take money from non muslims to accomplish their mission.

Eventhough it is not for us ti decide who is a true muslim and who is not, their actions speak for themselves.

 

[ITBP]

ISIS clan hardly qualifies to be called muslims. The more un-Quranic practices they introduce, the more they distance themselves from the religion of peace.

So they all are unislamic? Boyo- I read many verses of Islam. It is people's war. Dont lecture us.

As far as womens circumcision is concerned, its unislamic. The custom exists in some backward countries like Somalia, Southern Egypt, Sudan, Eritrea and Yemen and should be seen as a cultral thing, not a religious ritual.

Islamic Law on Female Circumcision

More there is conflicting position- Religious views on female genital mutilation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So most supporting FGM.

There are only four refrences in Quran for womens dress code and none of them comes even close to a burqa. Bibi Khadija, Mohammeds late wife was a succesful and independant businesswoman who never acuired male company when being on outcalls.

Here too is conflict

Koran says woman's dress should be modest, but how much is not mentioned.

TheReligionofPeace - Islam and Veils

So stop bashing Islam. ISIS is a medieval army which wants to spread medieval arab culture across the borders in.the name of Islam. But anyone who is versed in the Quranic wisdom will agree that ISIS has chosen the wrong path.

They are well versed that's why they dream of 72 Houri.

 

[Neo]

Ok Mr Scholar, give me one reference from Quaran about womens circumcision. No bs, just a reference.

 

[bose]

Anyone killing innocent people, muslims and non muslims, automatucally disqualifies to be called a muslim. If militant organisations like PLO, Hamas, Hezbullah, TTP, LeT, JuD or any other jiihadi outfits think they are muslims and will get 72 virgins fighting their interpretation of jihad, they are wrong. Instead of 72 virgins they will find a seven layered hell waiting for them.

All these militant organisations have political agendas, they are fighting for power using religion.as.a shield to mislead and manipulate jahil awam. Their leaders are indulged in unislamic practices, they often take money from non muslims to accomplish their mission.

Eventhough it is not for us ti decide who is a true muslim and who is not, their actions speak for themselves.

On the bold part: Here lies the problem... Didn't Holy Koran says who is a honest man ??? then why so confusion ?? I do not understand how come people exploit people in the name of religion when Islam is very specific about way of life ?? If tomorrow ISIS comes and says their Caliph is the new prophet will Muslims agree ??

 

[Neo]

On the bold part: Here lies the problem... Didn't Holy Koran says who is a honest man ??? then why so confusion ?? I do not understand how come people exploit people in the name of religion when Islam is very specific about way of life ?? If tomorrow ISIS comes and says their Caliph is the new prophet will Muslims agree ??

The keyword is education. Jahil people are easy targets, they are the ones joining the militants.

 

[bose]

The keyword is education. Jahil people are easy targets, they are the ones joining the militants.

There are educated guys such as engineers and doctors who are part of these groups... I do not know if you remember there was an incident few years back when two brothers [Indian Muslims from south India] carried out suicide attack in Glasgow airport... If you look into their family back ground they come from a very educated and well to do Family...

 

[Neo]

There are educated guys such as engineers and doctors who are part of these groups... I do not know if you remember there was an incident few years back when two brothers [Indian Muslims from south India] carried out suicide attack in Glasgow airport... If you look into their family back ground they come from a very educated and well to do Family...

Ofcourse some educated get brainwashed as well but none of the militant organisations is an intellectual pool of highly educated manpower. Most of them come from poot and deprived background, often have no jobs or a happy life.

 

[ITBP]

Ok Mr Scholar, give me one reference from Quaran about womens circumcision. No bs, just a reference.

Koran does not say explicitly circumcision, but Islamic scholars consider circumcision either highly recommended or obligatory. So ISIS is infact as per Islamic law correct.

 

[bose]

Ofcourse some educated get brainwashed as well but none of the militant organisations is an intellectual pool of highly educated manpower. Most of them come from poot and deprived background, often have no jobs or a happy life.

If you look at the background to the 9/11 hijackers they are all educated and from well to do family... There was a Pakistani too among them...

 

[Neo]

Koran does not say explicitly circumcision, but Islamic scholars consider circumcision either highly recommended or obligatory. So ISIS is infact as per Islamic law correct.

Islamic law? There is only one islamic law which is shariah and there is no such law as womens circumcision in sharia. let me remind you that personal hygene and mens circumcision law is 5000
years old and came with the Abramic and Mosaic law described in the Pentateuch. By slightest doubt of fear of misinterpretation the jews would have introduced women circumcusion as a law but they didn't.
Islam inherited these laws and sharia is based on these teachings.

Womens circumcision is a medieval cultural ritual in some of the.most.women unfriendly and barbaric cultures in Africa and parts of Middle East.

 

[Neo]

If you look at the background to the 9/11 hijackers they are all educated and from well to do family... There was a Pakistani too among them...

There are 1.5 billion muslims in the world. A few rotten apples donot represent the majority.

 

[bose]

There are 1.5 billion muslims in the world. A few rotten apples donot represent the majority.

Very True... but the point of argument is about educated persons participating on the hateful activities in the name of religion... I can give many examples of educated people in such heinous activities.... in most of the cases you will find educated persons driving the terrorist organizations these can not be done by un educated peoples...

rather so called uneducated people are more down to earth... just my 2 cents...

 

[ITBP]

Islamic law? There is only one islamic law which is shariah and there is no such law as womens circumcision in sharia. let me remind you that personal hygene and mens circumcision law is 5000
years old and came with the Abramic and Mosaic law described in the Pentateuch. By slightest doubt of fear of misinterpretation the jews would have introduced women circumcusion as a law but they didn't.
Islam inherited these laws and sharia is based on these teachings.

Womens circumcision is a medieval cultural ritual in some of the.most.women unfriendly and barbaric cultures in Africa and parts of Middle East.

Shariah law is very big and diverse and among Muslim scholars there is conflict in opinion.

Islamic schools and branches - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Indeed during Prophet's time female circumcision was widely practiced.

There are 1.5 billion muslims in the world. A few rotten apples donot represent the majority.

Why number of rotten apples among Muslims is higher than any other religion?

 

[Neo]

Shariah law is very big and diverse and among Muslim scholars there is conflict in opinion.

Islamic schools and branches - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Indeed during Prophet's time female circumcision was widely practiced.

Can you prove that it was widely practiced? If it was so common, why is there not a single ref in the Quran or Hadith?

 

[ITBP]

Can you prove that it was widely practiced? If it was so common, why is there not a single ref in the Quran or Hadith?

Comparative Index to Islam : CIRCUMCISION

In The Name Of Allah - Muhammad's Betrayal of Arab Traditions

Read O- Circumcision was practiced by some of the pagans but the Quran does not make it mandatory.

The History of al-Tabari Vol. 33: Storm and Stress along the Northern ... - Ṭabar+ - Google Books

It shows circumcision was quite mandatory in those days.

To make a long story short, Jewish, Christian and pagan Arabs before Muhammad all practiced circumcision, because Abraham was circumcised when he was 80, and Ishmael was circumcised when he was 13.

The American Muslim (TAM)

About reference to circumcision on Koran Does Koran accept Allah was Pagan supreme Arabic God? Does it accept Kaaba was sacred site for Pagans?

 

[rock127]

ISIS clan hardly qualifies to be called muslims. The more un-Quranic practices they introduce, the more they distance themselves from the religion of peace.

There are only four refrences in Quran for womens dress code and none of them comes even close to a burqa. Bibi Khadija, Mohammeds late wife was a succesful and independant businesswoman who never acuired male company when being on outcalls.

As far as womens circumcision is concerned, its unislamic. The custom exists in some backward countries like Somalia, Southern Egypt, Sudan, Eritrea and Yemen and should be seen as a cultral thing, not a religious ritual.

So stop bashing Islam. ISIS is a medieval army which wants to spread medieval arab culture across the borders in.the name of Islam. But anyone who is versed in the Quranic wisdom will agree that ISIS has chosen the wrong path.

Ok so why don't the true thekedaar of Islam ie. "Pakistan" come on streets and raise slogan against ISIS???

Why not Mullahs of Pakistan declare a fatwa against ISIS and raise a war against them since they are maligning Islam?

Hafiz Saeed SHOULD lead the protest and say ISIS is defaming Islam but this would not happen since you like the ISIS version of Islam.

The thing is Pakis LOVE the ISIS version of Islam and given silent approval.

 

[Compersion]

If the Sunni were to unite and be armed with simple weaponry they would be dangerous proposition it seems.