Is the INDIAN NAVY acquiring better weapon systems compared to the InA or IAF

[Decklander]

Re: Is the INDIAN NAVY acquiring better weapon systems compared to the

Well that is hardly the subject we are discussing. And even if I were to agree with you, this is nothing to be proud of, for MARCOS did not do a good job during 26/11.

Please read the transcripts of 26/11 attacks and you will realise that Pak handlers passed on the info of MARCOS being deployed and asked the terrorists to take safe positions to avoid being hunted down by MARCOS. Their induction so early ensured safety of many lives and pushed terrorists to go into hiding. The first job as given to MARCOS was to get people to safety which they did effectively. The operation in the other hotel was done by MARCOS and they neutralised them in least possible time.
I have some of my coursemates in MARCOS as seniormost officers and I know what they are doing. They have been rated even above the Para SF batallions by GOI and Indian Armed Forces.
IA makes commandos out of 8th class pass soldiers but to join IN, minimum qualification is 12th. That shud tell you the ability of a basic IN sailor who becomes Commando compared to anyone from IA.
IN recruits only B.Tech/B.E to be officers. This is the highest qualification for any job in GOI, even scientists of DRDO have lower QRs.

 

[Decklander]

Re: Is the INDIAN NAVY acquiring better weapon systems compared to the

Pls see the link below.
MUMBAI TERROR ATTACKS - Terrorists were aware of Taj layout - Commandos - YouTube

MARCOS were blamed for refusing to move without proper authorisation by NSG. NSG comes under Home Ministry and can be asked for by any state Govt. But MARCOS is a specialist force which comes under MOD and can't be requisitioned by a state govt directly. IN can be asked by a state govt to join efforts of state govt as part of ,"Aid to civil administration". But MARCOS can't be. They are the only force which is trained for assasination jobs also including support to RAW operations. Many of the MARCOS have been given medals in disguise for jobs which they never did but did someother jobs which can't be made public.

 

[p2prada]

Re: Is the INDIAN NAVY acquiring better weapon systems compared to the

IN's current requirements are considerably lower than IAF's. IAF wants the best of the best. IN isn't like that yet. They have to balance between their smaller budget and requirements.

IA can't be compared to either of the two since the other two are capital intensive while IA is not as much. The developments within IA will be lesser known also.

Overall, since my last post here (post #33) three years ago, IA has remained unchanged. Not many major inductions have happened apart from some progress on new deals like T-90MS, Apache etc and proposal to raise new mountain divisions. I suppose reverse engineering the old Bofors should be considered a big deal. Of course, we don't yet know the level of progress happened with F-INSAS.

IAF has seen some major additions, like the C-130J, Phalcon, IL-78 refueler, C-17, PC-7, Hawk, nearing completion of Phase IV of MKI. The certification of AFNET was a major milestone. There was major progress on the FGFA front. LCA is being prioritized. MRCA deal is nearing its conclusion and new AWACS and AEW&C projects have started with negotiations for ISTAR aircraft. So IAF goes right back on the top.

Navy front. Only three major inductions have happened or in the process of happening, Nerpa, P-8I Neptune and Gorky. The Talwar deliveries were completed and seems like there are negotiations for 3 more. Kolkata class is delayed along with Vikrant while everybody is eagerly awaiting the commissioning of Arihant. The loss of the Kilo class was quite severe, however there was progress on the Scorpene front. New projects were started like P-17A and P-15B which is good news while a new submarine tender has been announced. The launch of our first dedicated military satellite is a feather in IN's cap. Overall, not as impressive as IAF or even IA. So, this time the Navy goes down to number 3 here.