Is London part of UK and Washington part of US?

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The usual joos and free masonry..world conspiracy etc etc...somebody please put this in the offtopic and humor section,
 

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Even Texas has its own flag, and blah blah
 

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The usual joos and free masonry..world conspiracy etc etc...somebody please put this in the offtopic and humor section,
I specifically want to know whether city of London is sovereign or part of UK and whether district of columbia is sovereign or part of US. Please shed some light on that.
 

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Are those 4 men and their descendants Jewish?
 

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Too technical to fathom the constitutional nuances and rights as a citizen.
 

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The District of Columbia is sovereign or part of US ?

The wiki page says that .....

The District is a federal territory , ultimately under the complete authority of Congress .
 

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U.S. Territories can't Vote in the presidential election , there are few more territories who can't vote , but still they are part of US .
 

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North Carolina did not have a state flag until 1861. When it seceded from the Union, this flag was flown.



This is the North Carolina flag today.

It bears the dates of the Mecklenburg Declaration of Independence (May 20, 1775) and of the Halifax Resolves (April 12, 1776), documents that place North Carolina at the forefront of the American independence movement. Both dates also appear on the Great Seal of North Carolina.


Flag of North Carolina - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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The District of Columbia is sovereign or part of US ?

The wiki page says that .....

The District is a federal territory , ultimately under the complete authority of Congress .
Residents of D.C. elect a representative to the Congress. That representative has no vote in that body, AFAIK.
 

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The usual joos and free masonry..world conspiracy etc etc...somebody please put this in the offtopic and humor section,
From http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...il-individual-20th-century-17.html#post494974

An interesting anecdote if you are interested;

The CITY of London is the square mile within the greater London area. Here we have the banks of the world trading astronomical amount of currency. This is the birth place of the East India Company.

The CITY as its called is the only area in the whole of UK which is out of the control of British Parliament. The laws of UK do not apply in this 1 square mile zone. They have their own mayor called Lord Mayor. He is a multi billionaire. you got to be one because the development of this square mile depends on your own wealth. The people who vote for this election are the businesses within the square mile and not the few 100 people who live there. These businesses are mostly banks now but in the past it was companies like British East India Company, the various ships who undertook slave labour from Africa to the US. eVEN the Dutch East India Company was based in The City.

Wait there is more.

The City has an enforcer who sits in the parliament just behind next to the speaker. He is nominated by the City to act as someone who will not allow things done in the Parliament which would compromise the city. So much so that Vince Cable who is the current MP and also in the govt as a business incharge, wanted to prevent the UK government from permitting the banks like Lehman Bros to do shady financial deals in UK. The wall street people had already declined Goldman Sachs et al permission to do the things that they did which brought the system to its knees in 2008. However, in the CITY they were allowed to fcuk the world just like they have always done. The queen also does not control this place. She has to request an annual permission to meet the Lord Mayor. And she has to come out of Windsor or Buckingham Palace and meet the Lord Mayor at the border of the City and greater London authority area. The lord Mayor has such power.

Its this CITY who screwed India.

I am not making any of this sh*t up. Google it my friend.
 

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The wealth Destroyers

The Corporation of the City of London has harmed you more than you know.


By George Monbiot. Published in the Guardian 1st November 2011

It's the dark heart of Britain, the place where democracy goes to die, immensely powerful, equally unaccountable. But I doubt that one in ten British people has any idea of what the Corporation of the City of London is and how it works. This, at last, could be about to change. Alongside the Church of England, the Corporation is seeking to evict the protesters camped outside St Paul's cathedral. The protesters, in turn, have demanded that it submit to national oversight and control(1).

What is this thing? Ostensibly it's the equivalent of a local council, responsible for a small area of London known as the Square Mile. But, as its website boasts, "among local authorities the City of London is unique"(2). You bet it is. There are 25 electoral wards in the Square Mile. In four of them, the 9,000 people who live within its boundaries are permitted to vote. In the remaining 21, the votes are controlled by corporations, mostly banks and other financial companies. The bigger the business, the bigger the vote: a company with ten workers gets two votes, the biggest employers, 79(3). It's not the workers who decide how the votes are cast, but the bosses, who "appoint" the voters(4). Plutocracy, pure and simple.

There are four layers of elected representatives in the Corporation: common councilmen, aldermen, sheriffs and the Lord Mayor. To qualify for any of these offices, you must be a freeman of the City of London(5,6). To become a freeman you must be approved by the aldermen(7). You're most likely to qualify if you belong to one of the City livery companies: mediaevel guilds such as the worshipful company of costermongers, cutpurses and safecrackers. To become a sheriff, you must be elected from among the aldermen by the Livery(8). How do you join a livery company? Don't even ask.

To become Lord Mayor you must first have served as an alderman and sheriff and "must command the support of, and have the endorsement of, the Court of Aldermen and the Livery"(9). You should also be stinking rich, as the Lord Mayor is expected to make a "contribution from his/her private resources towards the costs of the mayoral year."(10) This is, in other words, an official old boy's network. Think of all that Tory huffing and puffing about democratic failings within the trade unions. Then think of their resounding silence about democracy in the City of London.

The current Lord Mayor, Michael Bear, came to prominence within the City as chief executive of the Spitalfields development group(11), which oversaw a controversial business venture in which the Corporation had a major stake, even though the project lies outside the boundaries of its authority. This illustrates another of the Corporation's unique features. It possesses a vast pool of cash, which it can spend as it wishes, without democratic oversight. As well as expanding its enormous property portfolio, it uses this money to lobby on behalf of the banks.

The Lord Mayor's role, the Corporation's website tells us, is to "open doors at the highest levels" for business, in the course of which he "expounds the values of liberalisation"(12). Liberalisation is what bankers call deregulation: the process that caused the financial crash. The Corporation boasts that it "handle issues in Parliament of specific interest to the City", such as banking reform and financial services regulation(13). It also conducts "extensive partnership work with think tanks "¦ vigorously promoting the views and needs of financial services."(14) But this isn't the half of it.

As Nicholas Shaxson explains in his fascinating book Treasure Islands, the Corporation exists outside many of the laws and democratic controls which govern the rest of the United Kingdom(15). The City of London is the only part of Britain over which parliament has no authority. In one respect at least the Corporation acts as the superior body: it imposes on the House of Commons a figure called the remembrancer: an official lobbyist who sits behind the Speaker's chair and ensures that, whatever our elected representatives might think, the City's rights and privileges are protected. The mayor of London's mandate also stops at the boundaries of the Square Mile. There are, as if in a novel by China Miéville, two cities, one of which must unsee the other.

Several governments have tried to democratise the City of London but all, threatened by its financial might, have failed. As Clement Attlee lamented, "over and over again we have seen that there is in this country another power than that which has its seat at Westminster."(16) The City has exploited this remarkable position to establish itself as a kind of offshore state, a secrecy jurisdiction which controls the network of tax havens housed in the UK's Crown dependencies and overseas territories. This autonomous state within our borders is in a position to launder the ill-gotten cash of oligarchs, kleptocrats, gangsters and drug barons. As the French investigating magistrate Eva Joly remarked, it "has never transmitted even the smallest piece of usable evidence to a foreign magistrate"(17). It deprives the United Kingdom and many other nations of their rightful tax receipts.

By undermining the standards set elsewhere, it has also made the effective regulation of global finance almost impossible. Shaxson shows how the absence of proper regulation in London allowed US banks to evade the rules set by their own government. AIG's wild trading might have taken place in the US, but the unit responsible was regulated in the City. Lehman Brothers couldn't get legal approval for its off-balance sheet transactions in Wall Street, so it used a London law firm instead(18). No wonder priests are resigning over the plan to evict the campers. The Church of England is not just working with Mammon; it's colluding with Babylon.

If you've ever dithered over the question of whether the UK needs a written constitution, dither no longer. Imagine the clauses required to preserve the status of the Corporation. "The City of London will remain outside the authority of Parliament. Domestic and foreign banks will be permitted to vote as if they were human beings, and their votes will outnumber those cast by real people. Its elected officials will be chosen from among people deemed acceptable by a group of mediaevel guilds "¦ ".

The Corporation's privileges could not withstand such public scrutiny. This, perhaps, is one of the reasons why a written constitution in the United Kingdom remains a distant dream. Its power also helps to explain why regulation of the banks is scarcely better than it was before the crash, why there are no effective curbs on executive pay and bonuses and why successive governments fail to act against the UK's dependent tax havens.

But now at last we begin to see it. It happens that the Lord Mayor's Show, in which the Corporation flaunts its ancient wealth and power, takes place on November 12th(19). If ever there were a pageant crying out for peaceful protest and dissent, here it is. Expect fireworks – and not just those laid on by the Lord Mayor(20).

George Monbiot

References:

1. Occupy London protest issues demands to democratise City of London | UK news | guardian.co.uk

2. What is the City of London?

3. Elections - City of London Ward elections

4. Elections - City of London Ward elections

5. https://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/NR/...DF70D/0/AU_VT_CoCoguidancetoqualification.pdf

6. http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/NR/r...9A/0/AU_VT_Guidancetoqualificationgeneral.pdf

7. Elections - City of London Ward elections

8. Sheriffs & Aldermen

9. http://217.154.230.218/NR/rdonlyres/20F89B51-17E9-413B-84FC-D5587E17F96F/0/AU_CG_lordmayor.pdf

10. http://217.154.230.218/NR/rdonlyres/20F89B51-17E9-413B-84FC-D5587E17F96F/0/AU_CG_lordmayor.pdf

11. Biography

12. http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/Corp...nd_elections/The_Lord_Mayor/international.htm

13. http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/NR/r...4D62-8B49-095DE11E6A88/0/PromotingtheCity.pdf

14. http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/NR/r...4D62-8B49-095DE11E6A88/0/PromotingtheCity.pdf

15. Nicholas Shaxson, 2011. Treasure Islands: Tax Havens and the Men Who Stole the World. Random House, London.

16. Clement Atlee, The Labour Party in Perspective, Gollancz, 1937, p179, quoted by Nicholas Shaxson, as above.

17. Quoted by Nicholas Shaxson, as above.

18. Nicholas Shaxson, as above.

19. Lord Mayor's Show

20. - Reclaim the City
 

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