Iran-Oman-India (IOI) under sea gas pipeline

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how is it that this sub-sea pipeline will cost 3-4b usd and the one that was supposed to be land routed through pakistan from iran, the ipi, would have cost 7.1b usd? i guess even the distance covered by this pipeline will be more than the ipi.
I don't know how they estimated that amount without proper study!!!
Recently proposed Nord Stream pipeline(1200 km) is estimated around 4 billion Euro . So i am sure our pipeline will definitely need a lot more than 4 Billion USD there are things such as pipes diameter, pressure, sea depth etc also changes the cost estimation.
 

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how is it that this sub-sea pipeline will cost 3-4b usd and the one that was supposed to be land routed through pakistan from iran, the ipi, would have cost 7.1b usd? i guess even the distance covered by this pipeline will be more than the ipi.
Ritesh Ji , IPI pipeline runs for 2700 Km(1100+1000+600) against this 1100-2000 Km. Possible re-route suggested by INTEC Engineering to minimize mud flow exposure in Channel 4 (also shorter) new chanel 2 comes around 1100 Km.

This march 2008 PPt has many details regarding this project.http://www.gailonline.com/gailnewsite/agps-details/Presentation-Peter Roberts.pdf
 

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Ernesto is unnecessarily worried about pakistanis, they will eat pindi chana and each one of them produce more gas then it can be carried by the pipeline:emot15:
 

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I don't know how they estimated that amount without proper study!!!
Recently proposed Nord Stream pipeline(1200 km) is estimated around 4 billion Euro . So i am sure our pipeline will definitely need a lot more than 4 Billion USD there are things such as pipes diameter, pressure, sea depth etc also changes the cost estimation.
I think survey is already done. hence this report. INTECSEA | WorleyParsons: Project Experience
 

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The India Oman pipeline can be extended to incorporate Iran in the future. Possibly Iraq could send some gas too. This will save us a lot of money in shipping in the long run.
 

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Iran to Export Gas to India through sea

Iran to Export Gas to India through sea



TEHRAN (FNA)- India and Oman are considering the import of natural gas from Iran via an undersea pipeline, an Iranian official said Sunday.

The caretaker of the National Iranian Gas Export Company, Hossein Bidarmaghz, said an Indian delegation will travel to Tehran for talks on building an independent undersea gas pipeline.

"New Delhi has a plan to build an undersea gas pipeline between Iran and India, in order not to pay any transition fee for delivery of gas," Bidarmaghz said.

If an undersea gas pipeline is built by India to Oman, Iran can build a similar pipeline in deep waters to join that pipeline for exporting gas to New Delhi, Bidarmaghz added.

There have been some agreements between Iran and Oman on making the project operational in cooperation with a third country, he said.

According to the report, based on a trilateral agreement between Iran, Oman and a third country, Tehran will provide natural gas to an Omani liquefied natural gas (LNG) factory in order to convert it into LNG and sell it to the customers.

The South Pars/North Dome field is a natural gas field located in the Persian Gulf. It is the world's largest gas field, shared between Iran and Qatar.


Fars News Agency :: Iran to Export Gas to India


 

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Iran to export gas to India, Oman

Caretaker director of the National Iranian Gas Export Company (NIGEC) says Iran has reached agreements with India and Oman on exporting gas to the two countries.

Hossein Bidarmaghz said on Sunday that negotiations between Iran and India started 11 months ago and are still ongoing.

"India has called for the construction of a subsea gas pipeline in international waters so that neither side (Iran or India) will have to pay gas transit fee," said the NIGEC official, adding that an Indian delegation would soon visit Tehran to discuss the pipeline deal.

"Another way to transfer Iranian gas to India is via a pipeline from Oman to India to which a subsea pipeline would connect and take Iranian gas "¦," he added.

Bidarmaghz said based on a trilateral agreement among Iran, Oman and a third country, Iran's gas will feed Oman's liquefaction plant before being processed into various products in the third country.

Iran ranks second in the world in natural gas resources after Russia with available gas reserves estimated at over 33 trillion cubic meters.

In addition to exporting gas to Turkey, Armenia, and Pakistan, the country is currently negotiating gas exports to Iraq.

PressTV - Iran to export gas to India, Oman
 

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Good news. Lets bury the IPI idea for good and get going with this!
 

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Looks like the P in IPI gas pipeline is set to be replaced by O - Iran-Oman-India gas pipeline picks up speed

Iran to export natural gas to India, Oman via under-sea pipeline: report
TEHRAN, Sept. 25 (Xinhua) -- An Iranian official said Sunday that India and Oman are considering to import natural gas from Iran via an under-sea pipeline, the official IRNA news agency reported.

The caretaker of the National Iranian Gas Export Company, Hossein Bidarmaghz said, an Indian delegation will travel to Tehran for talks on building an independent under-sea gas pipeline, said the report.

"New Delhi has a plan to build an under-sea gas pipeline between Iran and India, in order not to pay any transition fee for delivery of gas," Bidarmaghz was quoted as saying.

If an under-sea gas pipeline is built by India to Oman, Iran can build a similar pipeline in deep waters to join that pipeline for export of gas to New Delhi, Bidarmaghz added.

There have been some agreements between Iran and Oman on making the project operational in cooperation with a third country, he was quoted as saying.

According to the report, based on a trilateral agreement between Iran, Oman and a third country, Tehran will provide natural gas to an Omani liquefied natural gas (LNG) factory in order to convert it into LNG and sell it to the customers.

The South Pars/North Dome field is a natural gas condensate field located in the Persian Gulf. It is the world's largest gas field, shared between Iran and Qatar. According to the International Energy Agency, the field holds an estimated 50.97 trillion cubic meters (1,800 trillion cubic feet) of in-situ gas and some 50 billion barrels of condensate.
 

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If we get the I-O-I operational, then it will open up some really big opportunities.

Qatar and Oman already have a gas pipeline and that could connect into this. Dolphin Gas Project - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Turkmenistan - Iran have two operational gas pipelines (BBC News - Turkmenistan opens new Iran gas pipeline) and this can be also added to the IOI gas pipeline allowing India to import gas from not just Qatar but also Turkmenistan and even other Central Asian countries as the grid is extended completely bypassing Afghanistan and Pakistan,
 

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This is really a great idea..will save a lot of transit fees and security issues. We can get similar pipelines from Central Asia linked through Iran and Oman.
 

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Yeah looks like a good plan. Someone please rush and hush this into the ears of MEA :)
But we're bye passing Pakistani territorial waters as well right? Edit:Cross checked the line route with maritime boundaries, shows we'll bye pass them conveniently.
 
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Yeah looks like a good plan. Someone please rush and hush this into the ears of MEA :)
But we're bye passing Pakistani territorial waters as well right?
Yes its out of the pakistani territory. and thats what they are worried about :)
 

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its an amazing idea...but the cost...??considering with land based pipe lines it is way too costly...
 

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its an amazing idea...but the cost...??considering with land based pipe lines it is way too costly...
but i think its more safer then Land based Pipeline............
 

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Yeah looks like a good plan. Someone please rush and hush this into the ears of MEA :)
But we're bye passing Pakistani territorial waters as well right? Edit:Cross checked the line route with maritime boundaries, shows we'll bye pass them conveniently.
Well its already in the works, the pipeline could be operational as early as 2015 according to some. Its really the Iran-Oman part that is the problem because of the Iran sanctions.

Secret talks with Iran though are happening with the next round in November

The Hindu : News / National : India holds secret talks with Iran on gasfield

Both sides will hold the next round in Delhi in November

In a sign of revival of ties with Iran, India quietly concluded a major part of negotiations for a lucrative gas field days before Prime Minister Manmohan Singh met Iranian President Mahmound Ahmadinejad in New York and accepted an invitation from him to visit Tehran.

As is the case with all major projects with Iran, the one to develop the Farzad-B gas field was stalled for two years despite India's need for compressed natural gas. New Delhi was compelled to move following a gentle warning from Iran that it was planning to reduce the stake of Indian companies in the project.

Intensive negotiations over five days on Iran's Kish Island saw both sides negotiating the main part of the contract which had been left partly discussed when talks last broke off in November 2009, government sources told The Hindu.

Both sides will now hold the next round of talks here in November when the more important issue of internal rate of return and security of investment will be discussed.

The renewal of talks on energy projects could set the stage for purposeful discussions on the development of the Iranian port of Chabar, said to be the shortest route for sending supplies into the Pashtun-dominated southern Afghanistan. Some developments on the Chabar front such as extending the free zone area to the port are in line with Indian preconditions for expanding its capacity five times.

A short distance away from the Gwadar port in Pakistan being built by the Chinese, Chabar can be connected to the hinterland of Afghanistan as well as its major cities and even beyond to Central Asia. This could be facilitated by linking up Chabar to the Iranian border town of Milak. An Indian-built road from the corresponding Afghan border town of Zaranj then leads to the Afghan garland highway.

India had been pursuing the project for some time before it was stalled following American moves to isolate Iran. There was no response to invitations to hold talks on the Iran-Pakistan-India pipeline, the system of payments for importing crude from Iran was frequently changed and unsatisfying talks on Chabar.

Iran is learnt to be keeping its fingers crossed with respect to talks on the gas field given India's reluctance so far to take negotiations on any of the projects forward.

Oil and Natural Gas Corporation (ONGC) and Indian Oil hold 80 per cent stake in the block and Oil India the remaining 20 per cent. India went for talks after Iran said it was planning to shift the project to an Iranian consortium and offered only a 30 per cent stake to the ONGC.

Informed sources expected the thaw to have some impact on the situation in Afghanistan. Both countries approve a regional solution with India taking up the gauntlet for the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation (SCO) Plus countries. The SCO consists of four Central Asian countries, besides Russia and China. The SCO Plus includes India, Iran and Pakistan as Observers and Afghanistan as a Special Invitee.

Like India, Iran is inimical to the idea of Taliban, which it sees as Sunni-dominated and anti-Shia, calling the shots in Kabul. Burdened by refugees since the conflict began in 1979, Iran is apprehensive of a fresh wave of migration from Afghanistan's Shia Hazara community in case the Taliban once again takes power. However, India is in favour of the U.S.-led forces remaining in Afghanistan for some time, Iran insists on the immediate and complete withdrawal of all foreign troops.

Sources said though these are early days, the Chabar route could be a much better alternative for taking supplies into Afghanistan. The U.S. and its allies are attempting to reduce dependence on the route through Pakistan but the alternative Northern Distribution Network with its funnel into Afghanistan at Uzbekistan is more expensive. One of the NDN route from Germany goes through as many as 10 countries before culminating in Uzbekistan. The U.S. is also talking to China for a supply route from its Xinjiang province but this too goes across forbidding terrain.
 

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