Iran Military Developments

Would Iran having a Nuclear Bomb benefit India vis-a-vis Pakistan?

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Sailor

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I think that by telling Israel that
a]They now have a missile to reach them.
b]They want to take Israel out as a nation.
c] They are developing nuclear weapons
The Israelis shouldn't wait any longer. Obama or no Obama. Do it now.
 

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Would the Israelis (if they go for the first strike) destroy Iran completly or just making them incapable of fighting any wars?
 

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I think that by telling Israel that
a]They now have a missile to reach them.
b]They want to take Israel out as a nation.
c] They are developing nuclear weapons
The Israelis shouldn't wait any longer. Obama or no Obama. Do it now.
With all due respect, Ahmedinijad is sabre rattling just because of the upcoming elections... else, he has no intention of doing anything of that sort because I'm sure any sane person will realise that a first strike on Israel, whether nuclear or non-nuclear will elicit an implacable vengeance on the whole of the Persian civilization...
 

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Oh come on, Iran tests a missile, says that it wants to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. Israel makes a couple of similar statements. Obama makes some noises in the fracas. Couple of days later, things cool down. Whats new about it?

BUT. One thing is for certain, if Israel sees a "real" threat from Iran, they will not wait for Oh-bummer's approval before they strike Iran, even if there is heavy attrition.
 

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Would the Israelis (if they go for the first strike) destroy Iran completly or just making them incapable of fighting any wars?
Bloody hell, no one is talking about harming the civilian population Rimser. They are a fine people and most don't want anything to do with what the radical President and government are doing. They have to surgically remove the nuclear development sites before they become activated, as they did in Syria.
The list is growing.
US, UK, France, Russia, China, India, Pakistan, Israel,[some even say South Africa] North Korea and now soon to be added Iran.
This argument alone is overwhelming. Every one added to the list makes that potential flash point one day explode. The growing list must stop.
 

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Normally a missile of that range should go out of sight, atleast 200km into the sky. That missile looked like it turned away well below that in the video. I wonder if the range is true.
 

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China has given Iran assistance in many of these missiles and they have Zazal and Chinese silkwoms and Sunburn cruise missiles

China's Missile Exports and Assistance to Iran

this missile dosen't have an special evasion features and RISAT,TECSAR and POLARIS are probably keeping 24 hour survelliance on Iran along with US and maybe even other Indian satellites(i won't post which ones)
I bet on the IRS series.
 

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Dear Avi, thanks for the video, but I think the footage aired by the Channel is of Kavosagar-1, Iran's first sounding rocket.

This is the video posted in You Tube on Iran's first sounding Rocket Test of Kavosgar - 1 on February, 2008

YouTube - Iran's Kavoshgar-1 lifts off for space

and below here the Sajjil Missile Test

YouTube - New leap in Iran's missile technology

However, there is striking similarities between this two, and , along with the testing of the sounding rocket the technology that incorporated into the Sajjil was also tested , I personally opine.

Kindly any respected members here shed some light on this ?

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No sign Iran seeks nuclear arms: new IAEA head
Fri Jul 3, 2009 12:26pm EDT

By Sylvia Westall
VIENNA (Reuters) - The incoming head of the U.N.'s nuclear watchdog said Friday he did not see any hard evidence that Iran was trying to gain the ability to develop nuclear weapons.

"I don't see any evidence in IAEA official documents about this," Yukiya Amano told Reuters in his first direct comment on Iran's nuclear program since his election, when asked whether he believed Iran was seeking a nuclear weapons capability.

Current IAEA head Mohamed ElBaradei told the BBC last month it was his "gut feeling" that Iran was seeking the ability to produce nuclear arms, if it desired, as an "insurance policy" against perceived threats from neighboring countries or the United States.

"I'm not going to be a "soft" director general or a "tough" director general," Amano told Reuters, when asked how he would approach issues like Iran and Syria, which are both subject to IAEA probes.

(Editing by Tim Pearce)

No sign Iran seeks nuclear arms: new IAEA head | International | Reuters
 

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New IAEA chief sees no proof Iran developing nuclear weapons

Saturday 4th July, 2009


The incoming head of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) says he knows of no hard evidence that Iran is trying to gain the ability to develop nuclear weapons.

Japanese diplomat Yukiya Amano told the Reuters newsagency he has seen no such evidence in IAEA official documents.

Outgoing IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei said last month it was his "gut feeling" that Iran wants the ability to build atomic weapons. He said Iran's ultimate aim is to be known as a major power in the Middle East.

Iran's ambassador to the IAEA (Ali Asghar Soltanieh) said at the time ElBaradei is wrong and that Iran has no intention of ever having a nuclear weapon.

The United States and its Western allies believe Iran's nuclear program may have a military component.

Iran has long maintained that its nuclear program is intended to produce electricity.

Iran has been hit with three sets of U.N. sanctions for its refusal to stop enriching uranium, a process that can be used to develop nuclear weapons.

Amano, who on Thursday was elected director-general of the IAEA, will succeed ElBaradei later this year. ElBaradei has served for 12 years as head of the U.N. nuclear agency.



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I'm sure they are. They are so politically unstable at this point, it is going to be their only insurance policy to avoid foreign meddling.
 

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Nukes is the only way Iran can prevent an "Iraq" from happening there. It is reinforced by the fact that the US did at no point talk of any military action against North Korea though it had openly violated it's obligations.
So the Iranians are entitled to believe that having nukes ans long range missile will endure that the US does not attempt to attack and force a regime change there.
 

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I suppose they are after nukes to maintain dominance in the region. I don't find these measures to be against the US.
The Iraqi WMDs didn't stop the Coalition Forces from invading. Although their nuclear program was radically altered by the Israeli bombing of Osirak Iraqi reactor.
It was not until early in July 1981 that Saddam Hussein personally released Dr. Jafar Dhia Jafar from house arrest and asked him to start and head the clandestine nuclear bomb program.
 

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Iraq did not have any WMDs when Bush attacked. But that attack made the Iranians strive harder for the nukes so that no one would think of forcing a regime change there. NoKo is an example. Just yesterday it fired missiles in all defiance and all the US can do issue statements condemning it.
 

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Iraq did not have any WMDs when Bush attacked. But that attack made the Iranians strive harder for the nukes so that no one would think of forcing a regime change there. NoKo is an example. Just yesterday it fired missiles in all defiance and all the US can do issue statements condemning it.
There are double standards by big powers . Middle East should be nuclear Free zone . Egypt did bring that resolution in IAEA .USA and all the EU countries including UK,France,Germany all voted against Middle East being a Nuclear Free zone in 2007 except Ireland .

Russia,China,Japan,India all voted in favour of that resolution .

NPT clearly talks about disarming of Nuclear weapons by the existing Nuclear arsenal countries and stop assisting any country in thier Nuclear weapons programme .

Iran is mastering enrichment and in future it can divert its programme for Weapons production something similar like Brazil did it the past .

Even South Korea and japan can divert thier nuclear programme for Weapons productions .
 

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Iran could have atomic bomb in 6 months:German Intelligence

Iran could have atomic bomb in 6 months: report
2009-07-15 15:36:35 GMT2009-07-15 23:36:35 (Beijing Time) Xinhua English

VIENNA, July 15 (Xinhua) -- Germany's Federal Intelligence Service (BND) believes that Iran could produce an atomic bomb in six months, according to a report in Stern magazine.

Moreover, Iran might conduct similar nuclear tests as the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) has done, the weekly German magazine said.

But a senior European diplomat at the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) expressed doubts over the report.

"The information that I have does not indicate this," the Austrian Press Agency (APA) quoted the diplomat as saying.

So far, the IAEA has not made any official statement on the Stern report.

The latest IAEA report on the Iranian nuclear issue said the agency has all the low-purity uranium Iran has under watch.

IAEA inspectors had also installed photographic equipment at Iran's Natanz enrichment plant to monitor its production of enriched uranium.

Most nuclear experts believe Iran is not capable of obtaining the needed amount of high purity uranium for creating an atomic bomb in a few months, unless it possesses some other secret uranium enrichment equipment.

The United States and other Western countries claim that Iran intends to secretly develop nuclear weapons. The UN Security Council also wants Iran to suspend its uranium enrichment activity.

Iran, however, insists that its nuclear plan is only for peaceful purposes, vowing to continue its uranium enrichment activity despite pressure and sanctions from Western countries.

Iran could have atomic bomb in 6 months: report - World News - SINA English
 

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Iranians: "Death to Russia" & "Death to China"

Iranians: "Death to Russia" "Death to China"

The US received a tiny reprieve from playing the role of the “Great Satan” in Iran Friday when protesters directed their ire toward a few of America’s global rivals instead.

“Death to China!” and “Death to Russia!” chanted supporters of presidential candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi during a sermon by influential former president Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, according to news reports. Mr. Rafsanjani used the speech to criticize the government’s crackdown on dissent following the contested June 12 election.

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‘Death to China’ heard at Rafsanjani sermon. Why?
Protesters also targeted Russia. Both countries had quickly recognized President Ahmadinejad's reelection victory last month.


The US received a tiny reprieve from playing the role of the “Great Satan” in Iran Friday when protesters directed their ire toward a few of America’s global rivals instead.

“Death to China!” and “Death to Russia!” chanted supporters of presidential candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi during a sermon by influential former president Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, according to news reports. Mr. Rafsanjani used the speech to criticize the government’s crackdown on dissent following the contested June 12 election.

The Associated Press reports that the slogan broke out after hard-line supporters of President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad yelled out the familiar “Death to America” chant during the speech. And Nico Pitney of The Huffington Post posted a YouTube video showing an outdoors rally in Tehran today, in which he says the protesters are chanting in Farsi “Russia, do us a favor and let go of our country!”

Both regimes recognized Ahmadinejad’s reelection

But the US government shouldn’t get too hopeful that it will be replaced as Public Enemy No. 1.

The enmity likely stems partly from Russia and China’s early recognition of Mr. Ahmadinejad’s government-certified victory in the disputed election. Mr. Mousavi maintains that the vote was fradulent, and his supporters are bitter toward the two regimes for backing Ahmadinejad.

China’s treatment of Uighurs also a factor

The sentiment toward China also may be related to the Chinese government’s forceful clamping down on violent ethnic riots between Muslim Uighurs and Han Chinese in Xinjiang Province on July 5. China says that 46 Uighurs died in the violence, while Uighur exile groups maintain the number is much higher.

Several accounts of Rafsanjani’s speech say the chants against China broke out after the cleric condemned China’s crackdown in Xinjiang. The Guardian, liveblogging the speech, reports: “Rafsanjani criticizes China’s suppression of Uighur unrest. His comments are greeted with rebellious cries of ‘Down with China.’ ”

Saeed Valadbaygi, liveblogging the sermon at Revolutionary Road, has this account: “Rafsanjani condemns China. People chanted ‘Death to China.’ He asks that people stop their chants.” He quotes Rafsanjani as saying “China has a rational government. It must look at how it can benefit from its relations with the Islamic world. We hope that we will no longer be witness to such atrocities towards Muslims in China or anywhere else in the world.”

Iran censored coverage of Uighur unrest

The Monitor reported recently that Muslim reaction to the unrest in Xinjiang has been, for the most part, notably muted. (An exception is Turkey, where Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan called the events “genocide” against the Uighurs, the Monitor reported. And on the extremist fringe, Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb threatened to attack Chinese citizens in North Africa in retaliation.)

The Iranian government has been criticized for its tepid response to the Uighur killings. The New York Times reported that three prominent clerics condemned the government for not denouncing China’s treatment of Uighurs, criticism laden with pointed domestic implications as well.

One of the clerics, Ayatollah Youssef Sanei, a reformist, drew a sardonic parallel, suggesting that Iran, which considers itself the defender of Muslims worldwide, could not criticize China’s repressive tactics while it was doing the same thing. He also said Iran’s silence was related to its commercial, military and political links with China.

The Guardian’s Tehran correspondent said that Iranian state-run media censored coverage of the riots in Xinjiang, and “did not refer to Uighur protesters as Muslims, but called them ‘hooligans.’ “

‘Death to China’ heard at Rafsanjani sermon. Why? | csmonitor.com
 

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Iran: “Death to Russia” at Friday Prayer

At a Friday prayer service today at Tehran University, former president Ayatollah Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani called for the release of the many protesters arrested since the disputed June 12 presidential election where Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was declared the winner.

Rafsanjani is a firm supporter of Ahmadinejad's main contender Mir Hossein Mousavi. He led the Friday prayer for the first time since the election.

Members of the Iranian opposition movement took part in the prayer, some wearing green, the colour that has come to symbolize Mousavi's movement.

“Death to Russia”

Traditionally at Friday Prayer, people are encouraged to chant “Death to America” and “Death to Israel” but today, they defiantly shouted “Death to Russia”,
in referring to opposition accusations that Russia has been involved in training repression forces of the regime.

In the following video, recorded from a short distance of the outdoor gathering, you can hear a male voice over the loudspeaker screaming “Death to America”, “Death to the hypocrites” and “Death to England”, while the crowd roars “Death to Russia!” in response EVERY time.



Saminejad refers [fa] to this incident, and says that new taboos were broken today.

Iraneema tweeted [fa] that protesters burned a Russian flag.

Security forces repressed green-clad protesters at the prayer by launching tear gas at them. After the prayer, protesters chanted “Allaho Akbar” (God is great) and “Down with the dictator”.

Here is a compilation of seven films from today's protest in Tehran:



Bittersweet victory

Iraneema tweeted [fa] that dozens were arrested by security forces today in Tehran.

Hadi Nili tweeted” (in response to @onlymehdi) “Police attacked the prayers! I think Iran is among very few governments who ever attacked to Prayers.”



ABC News correspondent Jim Sciutto tweeted that Rafsanjani's speech was not aired on Iranian state television.

Jomhour says Rafsanjani's speech was beyond expectations and criticized the way protesters were repressed… “Today was another victory for Iranian green movement,” he says.

Mollah Hassani writes [fa] that Rafsanjani was a little bit better than expected. “He did not praise Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, the Supreme Leader, and did not say anything negative about the green movement.”

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