Iran just dumped Petro-Dollar. Euro to be the new currency to trade in

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  1. Armand2REP

    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    You have to look at the strategic move of Iran going with the Euro and dumping the RMB. France has made a power play here by supporting the Iranian nuclear deal that will weaken Chinese ambitions for being the reserve currency. Not only will Iran be selling all of its products in Euros, China will have to buy everything it does from Iran in Euros which requires China to buy more Euros, it knocks the Euro two notches up closer to the reserve currency while RMB declines back to nothing.

    The quickest way of killing the USD as the petro-dollar is to make the Euro the reserve currency. It is Macron's long term plan and the only one that could ever hope to dethrone the Americans.

    China doesn't haven't to worry about US from IOR, France and India have it covered. I like that you are moving all of these warships to IOR where French and Indians will have to rescue them when they break down. It will make a great headline. It is too bad you had a tug close by for the lone destroyer with engine troubles, but when you move more ships than you have tugs it will be a different outcome.
     
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  2. Flame Thrower

    Flame Thrower Senior Member Senior Member

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    @Armand2REP don't dream of dethroning America and petro dollar.

    NATO sounds powerful group because of America. If the alpha falls then rest will fall like house of cards
     
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    Bhumihar Jako Rakhe Saiyan Mar Sake Na Koi Senior Member

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    France is the new alpha

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    Flame Thrower Senior Member Senior Member

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    France is not America..........

    ME does what America says, same doesn't work with France
     
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  5. Armand2REP

    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    Macron is taking the leadership of the EU and with the British out can make it a unified hegemon. It is the only rival to America and with a European defence policy will be the only thing that can dismantle NATO and ovethrow the dollar as the reserve currency. It is the US that is holding us back, it is time to go our own way.
     
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    sorcerer Senior Member Veteran Member Senior Member

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    Errrmmm...Seems like USA knows the EU intentions. They have been picking up the signals when Obama was in power so was the fracturing of EU started with the Ukraine crisis, then the Brexit with a US media sponsored event...Well!! US haven't stopped yet.
    With the islamization of EU and the domestic crisis associated with the Syrian war caused to EU, we can expect the US deep state to gain more traction inside EU and not the other way around.

    EU will stick together till another Russian bogey is raised ..and trust the Russians to settle scores with another annex while the EU is divided.

    Did Iran just pushed a wedge between US and EU!!..???!!!!

    :popcorn:
     
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  7. Armand2REP

    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    The EU wants border security and defence more than agricultural subsidies and public works projects that only benefits the poorer states. This is the vision Macron has put into the new budget and is the building blocks of weening off US dominance of EU weapons procurement. The deals we have signed with Germany yesterday puts France in the drivers seat for the most competitive products the rest of Europe needs, 6th gen fighters, A320 neo MPA, MALE drones, Future MBT... the rest we already have plenty of options. The Islamisation of Europe is what is creating the crisis of confidence, all it takes is a political decision to end. Macron has a new immigration policy for that as well. The member states are starting to wise up that their liberal ideals are just a tad too liberal.
     
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  8. SanjeevM

    SanjeevM Senior Member Senior Member

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    India should join EU/France in concept/design stage itself for 6th generation fighter aircrafts. We have common goals. EU can partner with India and it will be a win-win situation. World will become multi-polar.

    India has to come out of TOT mentality and buyer seller relationship. We need to partner with countries in JV and joint R&D at initial stages itself.
     
  9. indus

    indus Living in Post Truth Senior Member

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    Wont dismatling NATO also fragment Europe. Europeans know whenever they divide they end up fighting each other. One reason why issues like catalonia are suppressed is to prevent further fragmentation of Europe. Also Nato is important to many European states which are afraid of a Russian attack and need US support to defend themselves. If Europe decides to remove Nato US will make them fight each other and win from both sides.
     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    NATO doesn't support EU collectivism, it divides us. With the promise of Uncle Sam to the rescue the members don't feel they need to care about defence issues. Trump has been the wake up call that European defence cannot rely on the Americans, their leadership is far too fickle. With American occupation troops stationed everywhere but France, we are the last bastion of European ideals. It is time for the US to find other bases outside of the Eurozone. The UK is a good place for them as their military power dwindles they could use the protection as they make idle threats to Russia.

    Catalonia is just mad they pay more taxes than the rest of Spain, leaving the EU won't solve that problem but it will make them so poor they won't have to worry about having taxes to collect. Rebuilding our armies into a collective EU army will nullify any ultranationalist tendencies any member might have and with common systems make the entire MIC competitive with the US economies of scale. With our own collective defence would be more than a match for Russia. The real issue is reclaiming territories that belong to the EU such as Gibraltar and Cyprus. It is time for the British and Turks to move along. If Ukraine joins then we might be able to solve their Russia problem. The US certainly hasn't done anything for Ukraine or Georgia.
     
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    shhh macron has a solution for everything. :biggrin2:
     
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    Armand2REP CHINI EXPERT Veteran Member

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    Better solutions than Rahul Gandhi.
     
  13. Jameson Emoni

    Jameson Emoni Regular Member

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    It looks like the moment has arrived for EU to prove itself. Will EU stand by Iran?
     
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    sorcerer Senior Member Veteran Member Senior Member

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    Iran needs some democracy.

    3o character rule is so very Autocracy
     
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    Jameson Emoni Regular Member

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    Why?

    (I agree on the 30 characters rule :))
     
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    sorcerer Senior Member Veteran Member Senior Member

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    Cuz it moved out of of petro-dollar diplomacy..
    hence
    need some Umrican Democracy.
     
  17. Jameson Emoni

    Jameson Emoni Regular Member

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    I see :)

    I guess, I need to hone my geopolitical skills.
     

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