INSAS Rifle, LMG & Carbine

[ALBY]

The AK 203 does have a folding stock on closer inspection. However it is obvious that even an FAB defence stock is better than this one. The upper hand rail has also been replaced with a non picatinny rail sample. Only the 50 round AK 203 magazine, muzzle break / flash hider, pistol grip and dust cover picatinny rail till the gas block remains. Price should not exceed $800 per unit as is currently envisioned.
If Russians persist with $1000 figure, simply retrofit above changes to TAR and add the Trinetra weapon optics.

Butt stock is foldable like the AK 103.

Final features will be closer to the M5F41.

What the fuck? Seriously they are going to sell us this old Ak103 after showing the new 203 one? That too at 1000 USD? Shit.
Its better to buy M5F41 than Tar or Ak203.
Buying Tar at 800 USD from OFB is dumb as nowwhere in the world a vanila Ak costs that much unless its of antique value

 

[Unknowncommando 2]

The AK 203 does have a folding stock on closer inspection. However it is obvious that even an FAB defence stock is better than this one. The upper hand rail has also been replaced with a non picatinny rail sample. Only the 50 round AK 203 magazine, muzzle break / flash hider, pistol grip and dust cover picatinny rail till the gas block remains. Price should not exceed $800 per unit as is currently envisioned.
If Russians persist with $1000 figure, simply retrofit above changes to TAR and add the Trinetra weapon optics.

Butt stock is foldable like the AK 103.

It's AK103M which is nothing but an AK-103 with rails on dust cover and hand guard

 

[harsh]

What the fuck? Seriously they are going to sell us this old Ak103 after showing the new 203 one? That too at 1000 USD? Shit.
Its better to buy M5F41 than Tar or Ak203.
Buying Tar at 800 USD from OFB is dumb as nowwhere in the world a vanila Ak costs that much unless its of antique value

Well for TAR that is the asking price... They never got what they quote.... It is all in the hands of MOD.... If MOD wants rifles for free they have to give that

 

[Bleh]

@porky_kicker @Gessler @Johny_Baba @abingdonboy @ALBY @Shaitan

One to img to be noted is between their better models - JVPC, ARDE carbine, AAR & battle rifle - there's a surprising about of basic functioning difference! Are all these completely seperate?

Like here wasn't a 7.62×52 version of Carbine or MCIWS... MCIWS telescopic buttstock not used in others... Carbines full rails & short-stroke piston probably not used in atleast 2 of the 4... & so on.

 

[Veiled V I P E R 2]

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[Aaj ka hero]

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Which weapon is this and from whom?

 

[Gessler]

@porky_kicker @Gessler @Johny_Baba @abingdonboy @ALBY @Shaitan

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One to img to be noted is between their better models - JVPC, ARDE carbine, AAR & battle rifle - there's a surprising about of basic functioning difference! Are all these completely seperate?

Like here wasn't a 7.62×52 version of Carbine or MCIWS... MCIWS telescopic buttstock not used in others... Carbines full rails & short-stroke piston probably not used in atleast 2 of the 4... & so on.

MCIWS as far as I know was a completely ARDE in-house effort in terms of design. Rest of the stuff (JVPC, new carbine) are more of a joint effort between ARDE (DRDO) and OFB.

New carbine is using the polymer stock seen previously on INSAS 1C & on 7.62x51 R-2 rifle.

As far as I know, IA must not have made length-adjustable stock a necessity, hence they're going with this.

Which weapon is this and from whom?

It's from College of Military Engineering (CME), Pune. It's an in-house R&D project to the best of my knowledge. Maybe they'll attempt to enter it in Carbine competition (the larger one with MII component, not the current fast-track one where Caracal emerged L-1).

 

[Akula]

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Videos are coming..........................

 

[Shaitan]

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[Johny_Baba]

@porky_kicker @Gessler @Johny_Baba @abingdonboy @ALBY @Shaitan

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One to img to be noted is between their better models - JVPC, ARDE carbine, AAR & battle rifle - there's a surprising about of basic functioning difference! Are all these completely seperate?

Like here wasn't a 7.62×52 version of Carbine or MCIWS... MCIWS telescopic buttstock not used in others... Carbines full rails & short-stroke piston probably not used in atleast 2 of the 4... & so on.

Sorry to disappoint you,except perhaps MCIWS // AAR all the firearms you mentioned are Kalashnikov derivatives with its iconic bolt+bolt carrier mechanism and long stroke gas piston reloading mechanism.

Even MCIWS/AAR originally was mixture of Stoner and Kalashnikov mechanisms with long stroke gas piston reloading mechanism wedded with AR-18-ish multi lug rotating bolt and bolt carrier mechanism, Trigger mechanism was from Kalashnikov and outer shell (receiver) and features were based on AR-15.

 

[Raj Malhotra]

I hope someone offers or develops Bullpub versions of FN FAL & INSAS 7.62x51 rifles

 

[Johny_Baba]

I hope someone offers or develops Bullpub versions of FN FAL & INSAS 7.62x51 rifles

That would be extremely uncomfirtable firearm to shoot,

already 7.62 NATO itself is a notorious round for having high recoil,then FAL and Kalashnikov platforms have recoil issues,muzzle climb issues on rapid fire and what not due to their operational characteristics...and you want to wed it all together in bullpup packages for FAL and Kalashnikov chambered in 7.62 NATO - that will directly kick that recoil to the shoulder of the shooter.

it can be done,but don't expect a military class rifle from such jugaad.

 

[abhay rajput]

Relax guys ak203 is coming whether you like it or not.. honestly it's decent gun , I have heard veterans talking about insas in Kargil .. I mean even the mags were cracked by just falling on the ground.. I am pretty sure that am 203 will live up to its name...
USA guns are expensive ( Sig saucer 700 crores some 73k guns)..

 

[vampyrbladez]

Relax guys ak203 is coming whether you like it or not.. honestly it's decent gun , I have heard veterans talking about insas in Kargil .. I mean even the mags were cracked by just falling on the ground.. I am pretty sure that am 203 will live up to its name...
USA guns are expensive ( Sig saucer 700 crores some 73k guns)..

AK 203 - $ 1000 - $ 1100 (Initial Batch ; Will be much less later on)

Sig 716 G2 - $ 990

Getting fleeced by foreign MIC - Priceless!

 

[abhay rajput]

AK 203 - $ 1000 - $ 1100 (Initial Batch ; Will be much less later on)

Sig 716 G2 - $ 990

Getting fleeced by foreign MIC - Priceless!

Doesn't matter bro , ak 203 will be selected whether we like it or not.. it's a done deal ,what I hear... Moreover the later batches which will be made in India will be more cheaper ...

 

[vampyrbladez]

AK 203 and Kamov Delayed, India and Russia Aim for Missile Deal Ahead of Modi Visit

Can anyone tell which is better Ak-203 or sig716 g2
accuracy,range, penetration etc?

Idiot's guide to future Indian firearms.

Sig 716 G2

Spoiler

AK 203

Spoiler

Tavor X-95

Spoiler

JVPC

Spoiler

 

[Ujjain]

Idiot's guide to future Indian firearms.

Sig 716 G2

Spoiler

AK 203

Spoiler

Tavor X-95

Spoiler

JVPC

Spoiler

That sig is sexy..............................

 

[Veiled V I P E R 2]

HD quality pic of OFB carbine.

OFB 7.62×51 R2 (Old Pic)

 

[Maddy_9UY]

Relax guys ak203 is coming whether you like it or not.. honestly it's decent gun , I have heard veterans talking about insas in Kargil .. I mean even the mags were cracked by just falling on the ground.. I am pretty sure that am 203 will live up to its name...
USA guns are expensive ( Sig saucer 700 crores some 73k guns)..

Old news hai mere bhai .... That was the first version of Insas. All these issues were resolved. However INSAS is a good rifle marred by the OFB's shoddy quality control.

 

[Shaitan]

TAR Carbine

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