INS Aridaman: India begins work on 2nd nuclear submarine

[sayareakd]

May be saya.

But even 1500 & 4000 Km is not enough.

How will K-4 reach Han populated east cost of China ?? We need at least in range of 6,000Km. I am sure, DRDO would be working on that.

K-15 is more than enough for Pakistan.

I don't understand logic of K-4 ? Agni-3 is fine as it's land based. (Distance between NE region & Shanghai is around 3,000-4,000 Km)

K-4 will merely cross Lhasa if launched from IOR.

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Wikimapia - Let's describe the whole world!

DRDO dont just make missile because they want to but because they services send them their requirement. That is what my understanding is.

 

[plugwater]

calm down he is just pointing out the fact that the IN is much more streamlined than the IA when it comes to military procurement, which is true.

All three services are getting foreign equipments!! that does not look like just pointing out to me, they are outright accusations.

 

[p2prada]

^^^^ if P76 isnt dead then where the hell is the navy getting all this money from, people keep saying that the navy is the least funded of the 3 services but it seems to me that the navy has a hand in every defense project in India.... IN funded Naval Dhruv (That they knew from the start would be a failure), naval LCA (useless in my opinion when better options are out there), IAC 1 & 2, P 17, P17A , P15, P15A, 8 Landing craft, P 28 corvets, AIP system for the P 76, Arihant class. these above are just designs are for which the navy has paid for.... plus all the other aqusitions that the navy is making Vikramadytia, 12 P8I, 3 Talwars, RFI sent for 8 MRMA, 2 different RFI for naval helos totaling more than 130, some 80 interceptor boats,,, Really where is the Navy getting all this money from?

Budget for capital expenditure every year is $5-10Billion. That's where the money is coming from. A big amount will be set aside for the MRCA deal the coming financial year. The Army and Navy will also have their share. The entire amount is not paid immediately, it is done over a course of many years. So, if we assume the MRCA deal is $15Billion, 1 or 2 Billion will go every year into paying it off over a decade.

The MKI deal was $12Billion. The entire thing hasn't been paid in full to the Russians because production will go on till 2018-19. Earlier there was a 2.55% appreciation on the deal and was increased to a little over 5% 2 or 3 years ago. This is how business happens.

 

[p2prada]

calm down he is just pointing out the fact that the IN is much more streamlined than the IA when it comes to military procurement, which is true.

The Navy's budget is smaller, so they have to look for options that give value for money. The Army and Airforce don't have such restrictions. Both Army and Navy are invading Air force's turf nowadays, so even Air force is getting jittery in budget allocation.

The Navy deals need major capital acquisitions but the Army's and Air force's capital acquisitions are larger and more time consuming as compared to Navy. The Navy seals a major big ticket deals 2 or 3 times a decade, the Air force needs to do this at least 5 or 6 times a decade.

INs capability requirements is also comparatively very less as compared to Air force and Army. When Army and Air force goals are to be the best there is, the Navy's goal is less radical. While the Army wants the best gear and the Air force wants the best aircraft, the Navy is only looking for adequate gear.

All that talk about Generals being corrupt and useless is nonsense. DRDO has not delivered and hence they are looking for foreign options.

 

[noob101]

The Navy's budget is smaller, so they have to look for options that give value for money. The Army and Airforce don't have such restrictions. Both Army and Navy are invading Air force's turf nowadays, so even Air force is getting jittery in budget allocation.

The Navy deals need major capital acquisitions but the Army's and Air force's capital acquisitions are larger and more time consuming as compared to Navy. The Navy seals a major big ticket deals 2 or 3 times a decade, the Air force needs to do this at least 5 or 6 times a decade.

INs capability requirements is also comparatively very less as compared to Air force and Army. When Army and Air force goals are to be the best there is, the Navy's goal is less radical. While the Army wants the best gear and the Air force wants the best aircraft, the Navy is only looking for adequate gear.

All that talk about Generals being corrupt and useless is nonsense. DRDO has not delivered and hence they are looking for foreign options.

The Army can increase its capital expenditure if it streamlines its force, there needs to be a reduction in strength. The army has always seemed to increase its firepower by increasing numbers.... for example if 1 US armored bridgae faced a Paki armored brigade it would be a slaughter..... we should make more capital expenditure on equipment while decreasing the manpower

 

[arnabmit]

INS Aridhaman shaping up?

India's first indigenously developed and designed nuclear powered submarine INS Arihant is all set to begin "sea-acceptance trials" (SATS) next month , which will at least last next six months before it is commissioned in to Indian Navy, which most likely to happen in first quarter of 2014.

According to sources close to idrw.org, India's Second Nuclear submarine dubbed S2 is under construction in Vishakhapatnam and is shaping up for its launch most likely to happen around mid of 2014. Named INS Aridhaman it is second nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine being built by India and the second Arihant class submarine development under advanced technology vessel programme.

INS Aridhaman after its launch will take few years before it completes its harbour-acceptance trials (HATS) and later sea-acceptance trials (SATS) before it can be commissioned in Indian Navy. S3 which is third Arihant class submarine to be built will be under construction soon.

Development of INS Aridhaman was first made public accidently in 2011, when four workers working in dry docks were killed where INS Aridhaman was under construction in a mishap leading to media speculation that INS Arihant has suffered some damages and will face more delays due this mishap. Only to be later rebutted by Government agencies that INS Arihant or any other submarine did not suffer any damages, which lead to revealing of construction of second submarine where actual mishap took place.

Indian Navy has requirement of three nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine based on Arihant class submarines and six SSNs (nuclear-powered attack submarines) in the long term. Arihant class submarines will be armed first with the 750-km K-15 SLBMs (submarine-launched ballistic missiles) and later will be will K-4 SLBM with range of 3500 km.

According to Defence experts K-4 SLBM will be ready before INS Aridhaman is commissioned in to India Navy and test of K-4 mostly likely will take place by end of 2014. INS Arihant has four silos on its hump to carry either 12 K-15s or four K-4s.

 

[Decklander]

The Hull of This sub is nearly ready.

 

[Twinblade]

The Hull of This sub is nearly ready.

With two more following close by.

Besides Arihant, three other nuclear-powered submarines were being constructed -- one at Visakhapatnam and two at Vadodara. India is also developing K-4 missile with a range of 3,000 km.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/india-successfully-testfires-underwater-missile/article4350553.ece?homepage=true

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

Great development and the thing to look for is the completion time, hope it does not cross the proposed delivery date.......

 

[Abhijeet Dey]

Indian Navy has requirement of three nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine based on Arihant class submarines and six SSNs (nuclear-powered attack submarines) in the long term. Arihant class submarines will be armed first with the 750-km K-15 SLBMs (submarine-launched ballistic missiles) and later will be will K-4 SLBM with range of 3500 km.

Indian made ballistic submarine is good but any update on India's indigenous nuclear attack submarine?

 

[arnabmit]

Currently they are only a figment of imagination.

Indian made ballistic submarine is good but any update on India's indigenous nuclear attack submarine?

 

[natarajan]

We can get rubis from france

 

[lookieloo]

We can get rubis from france

Those are already too damn old. India's better off building its own, though I'm sure the Russians will try offering y'all something to keep that from happening.

 

[natarajan]

no just build new ones

 

[sayareakd]

The Hull of This sub is nearly ready.

isnt hull is assemble at SBL, it is made some place else in modules.

 

[Decklander]

isnt hull is assemble at SBL, it is made some place else in modules.

Yes but in case of a sub, the hull has to be assembled at one place and it has to be nearly ready internally before being floated unlike a warship which can be fitted in the wet basin.

 

[sivachandan]

Will there be any difference in displacement between Arihant & Aridaman?

I don't think so bcuz there on same class.so, same weight

 

[sivachandan]

for a starters like us ARIHANT is a good one(hell best in its class).....we are doing better than chineese whose first N-submarine were a huge disaster and they still use them!!! (they love crap)

 

[sayareakd]

for a starters like us ARIHANT is a good one(hell best in its class).....we are doing better than chineese whose first N-submarine were a huge disaster and they still use them!!! (they love crap)

Pakistani love their crap more then they do..............

 

[sivachandan]

agreed........:thumb:
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