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If this is considered to be good roads, then it is expected that our vast majority of our countries populace revels in mediocrity and never aims for perfection.

Large swaths of roads covered in mud which has dried over and a potential hazards incoming traffic. Roads dont have proper fencing to prevent Heavy vehicles to tumble into those valleys.. CARS being parked anywhere and everywhere.

The municpal body should have brought in the road sweeping machines and cleared the roads of all these debris !!! this could generate employment for few !! .Haphazard traffic management is what i saw in the video, no adherance to traffic , no lane discipline..

Unintelligent chap riding moped without wearing a helmet, typical signs of arrogance that comes with the fact that our Traffic Police and its policies are outright archaic, ineffectual and simply not worth to be followed.

China makes roads better than what India could ever make in 10 years. If you wanna talk infrastructure then look at china , Dubai or any other economic power house , ours pales in comparision to them.
This is what these areas looked earlier.

https://www.wsj.com/video/india-bui...ina/86F53DFC-C5A0-4FF0-9AEC-017319B6845F.html

That's OK mate!!!! i am sure when your construction company gets to build such roads in arunachal, you will do a stellar job.
 

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This is what these areas looked earlier.

https://www.wsj.com/video/india-bui...ina/86F53DFC-C5A0-4FF0-9AEC-017319B6845F.html

That's OK mate!!!! i am sure when your construction company gets to build such roads in arunachal, you will do a stellar job.
Try not to be condescending, i am no entreprenuer here, the same scenario is seen across the country, In south especially Bangalore , the roads are pathetic Siddu bastard has dug up the entire city and still expects him to get voted

My point is whatever roads are being made , there isn't a standard that is being maintained , quality sucks and with every downpour , the roads erode and all one is left with is huge bill for repair and state coffers are also a cashcow on which spurious deals are made.

Roads being made aren't being maintained , you talk about roads being built in remote areas which is indeed great but are they durable enough to withstand years .. what about road signages, road fencing etc.. aren't they prerequisite for hilly regions..

Do you also refute my observations about lane discipline , traffic management and utter disregard to traffic rules.

My only point with this is we have a tendency to not complete our projects in time with its deliverables fulfilled , half assed approach in implementation which are being pedlled as an achievenment is simply a disservice to our nation.
 

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Try not to be condescending, i am no entreprenuer here, the same scenario is seen across the country, In south especially Bangalore , the roads are pathetic Siddu bastard has dug up the entire city and still expects him to get voted

My point is whatever roads are being made , there isn't a standard that is being maintained , quality sucks and with every downpour , the roads erode and all one is left with is huge bill for repair and state coffers are also a cashcow on which spurious deals are made.

Roads being made aren't being maintained , you talk about roads being built in remote areas which is indeed great but are they durable enough to withstand years .. what about road signages, road fencing etc.. aren't they prerequisite for hilly regions..

Do you also refute my observations about lane discipline , traffic management and utter disregard to traffic rules.

My only point with this is we have a tendency to not complete our projects in time with its deliverables fulfilled , half assed approach in implementation which are being pedlled as an achievenment is simply a disservice to our nation.
Don't want to comment on siddu's governance since i am no longer living in bangalore. i lived there from 2006 to 2012, i have seen it transform from a green city to a traffic nightmare. i used to live in indiranagar 100 feet road when it was a calm and peaceful place.

as far as signages go, i don't think completion certificates for majority of of the work packages are issued yet for arunachal highway. i do know that the construction company which built the majority of the sections of this highway has gone bust, that's the reason last 400 km of construction has stalled and deadline extended from 2018 to 2021.

My simple request is do some research before forming an opinion or expectations, there are n number of factors which have a impact on expectations vs reality.
 

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India, Saudi Aramco agree to partner on $44 billion refinery-petchem project

NEW DELHI (Reuters) - Saudi Aramco and a consortium of Indian state refiners agreed to build a mega refinery and petrochemical project on India’s west coast for an estimated $44 billion, oil officials at the signing of an initial agreement said on Wednesday.

Top executives of Saudi Aramco and India’s Ratnagiri Refinery & Petrochemicals (RRPL) - a joint venture of Indian Oil Corp (IOC.NS), Hindustan Petroleum Corp (HPCL.NS) and Bharat Petroleum Corp (BPCL.NS) - signed a memorandum of understanding to take equal stakes in the project in Maharashtra state.

The project includes a 1.2 million-barrel-per-day (bpd) refinery integrated with petrochemical facilities with a total capacity of 18 million tonnes per year, the officials said on the sidelines of the International Energy Forum.

Saudi Aramco will supply at least 50 percent of the crude to be processed at the planned refinery, officials said.

Saudi’s petrochemical company SABIC is also keen to invest in a cracker and other facilities in India, he said.
 

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GAIL to complete phase-1 of Urja Ganga project ahead of schedule

The company said it has placed pipe-laying order for 530 km between Bokaro in Jharkhand and Angul in Odisha, worth Rs 780 crore."With these awards, major contracts of the project, i.e.

New Delhi: State-owned gas utility GAIL India Ltd today said the first phase of the 2,655-km gas pipeline from Jagdishpur in Uttar Pradesh to West Bengal and Odisha will be completed before the scheduled target of December 2018.

The company said it has placed pipe-laying order for 530 km between Bokaro in Jharkhand and Angul in Odisha, worth Rs 780 crore. "With these awards, major contracts of the project, i.e. pipe supply and laying contract orders for 2,200 kms have been finalised," it said in a press statement.

The prestigious 2,655 km long Jagdishpur-Haldia & Bokaro-Dhamra Natural GasPipeline (JHBDPL) project, also known as the 'Pradhan Mantri Urja Ganga' project, was inaugurated by Prime Minister Narendra Modi in July 2015.

"The project is progressing in full swing and first phase of the project will be completed before the scheduled target date of December 2018," it said. "GAIL till date has committed over Rs 7,400 crore for the project which will pass through the state of Uttar Pradesh, Bihar, Jharkhand, West Bengal and Odisha."

The project will usher in industrial development in eastern part of India by supplying environmentally clean natural gas to fertilizer and power plant, refineries, steel plants and other industries.

It will also provide clean energy to households and transportation in the cities enroute the pipeline. The city gas network laying activity in Varanasi, Bhubaneswar and Cuttack has already commenced. Project activities will start on ground in other cities namely Patna, Ranchi and Jamshedpur by next month, GAIL said.

GAIL Chairman and Managing Director B C Tripathi said the project activities are progressing as per schedule and major contracts for the project have been awarded.

"The schedule completion date for Phase I of the project from Phulpur in Uttar Pradesh to Dobhi, Patna and Baruani in Bihar is December 2018 and we are confident of completing it ahead of schedule," he said. "City gas project Activities are also progressing well. The project will create a boon for clean industrial development in the eastern part of the country."

GAIL, he said, has achieved its annual targeted total capital outlay and has expended around Rs 4000 crore during the fiscal year ending March 2018.

The company will be spending its targeted capital outlay of Rs 6,400 crore in the current fiscal largely for the 4,000 km of pipeline and city gas projects it is presently executing, he added.

https://energy.economictimes.indiat...urja-ganga-project-ahead-of-schedule/63748864
 

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Hardeep Singh Puri,

Minister of Housing and Urban Affairs(MoHUA),

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Hi sir,

I am an ordinary citizen of India. I want to talk to you on the present condition of infrastructure in India, and so, for that, please take this letter as a formal request and hope that you take a good look at the following issues being raised on the Infrastructure of India.

According to IMF recently, India became 2.6 trillion dollar economy and is on the verge to enter top three economies of the world. Cities have played a major role in attaining this figure. Although cities are revenue generator of the country, this announcement really asks, to any indian citizen for checking the livability standards of our cities and how do they stand among cities of countries whose economy are far less than that of India. The answer was more a question in itself,

We don't have even a single city that could rival any tier 2 or, even, tier 3 cities of the developing countries like Malaysia or South Africa, both quite behind in terms of everything - resources, economy, etc - in comparison to India, let alone the developed world. Many people whom I asked gave Mumbai as an answer. If Mumbai is our global city, then our standards are really poor for tier 1 or global city. Mumbai is the best example of how not to build or expand a city. Gandhi ji once said that if one has to explore real India, he must travel through rail. This aptly implies in the case of Mumbai. I am not, even, talking about to look at the cleanliness of the railway tracks or of that of the railway station, while travelling through Mumbai local. We just have to look at the number of huts or "jhopdis" and people living in them alongside the boundary walls separating railway track and the city.in Mumbai, for every single skyscraper, number of jhopdis can be seen adjacent to that same skyscraper. A city just doesn't only mean skyscrapers or tall buildings, a city is more about the people and their interaction with the surrounding, how much they can enjoy in the city and most important, the cleanliness around in the city

We, in India, equate infrastructure, more so,with km of highways and expressways build rather than with new cities built or existing cities, having more than basic facilities, made more liveable. Sir, a common citizen in India, like me, rarely ever travels on highways around his city, and even when he travels, it is not more than two or three times in his entire life. He travels more on city roads, filled with potholes, while going to office for work, than what a common man will ever do in his his life on highways or expressways. The city roads are where most of his journey of his life is done. Now, this doesn't mean that we stop laying any new highways or stop repairing existing highways. We need highways to connect with hinterlands. But just paying attention to, only, highway construction as the measure of infrastructure spending, and not planned expansion or planned construction of existing or new new cities, respectively and allowing people, who migrate to cities, to assimilate easily in city and not burgeoning the already dilapidated condition of existing cities infrastructure, is not the perfect way to infrastructure development of India.

The migration of people from India to other countries is mainly due to their aspirations of living higher quality of life than what they get to live in india. The migration of an Indian in search of high quality education is complemented by migration of 75 indians in search of high quality of life

I want to present to you some possible solution to the problems faced by India. If India is to develop and become the golden bird our ancestors thought of our land to be, then, complaining shouldn't be the only aim, helping and doing our bit to tackle the problems, also, should be the part of the whole complaint process. The problems faced by India, no matter how complicated they seem, have solutions and fortunately for us, majority of them can be solved by changing our years old town planning system and rules, which needs a re look as being phrased decades ago.


Planned urbanisation and development of new cities :-

New cities must be built, if India is to offset the danger of overpopulation in existing cities and, at least, maintain the present quality of life of Indians. Amid the growing population, we need to build big, global and sustainable cities with world class infrastructure. We can't rely on the present cities have any other alternative as the existing cities have failed to provide the same quality of life like we get

We have to do more planned urbanisation. The map of any city or any area should have not only proper layout of the distribution of land for different purposes, like commercial and residential, but should also have proper layout of roads. The drainage system and water connectivity should be considered in the planning phase itself and not after the plots have been sold.


Illegalize all the colonies outside of the city area :-


This rule is really necessary in countering the haphazard expansion of cities. This is really important not just for maintaining the overall quality of life of the city and its surrounding areas but more so for the quality of life of the dwellers living in these houses. People living in these houses live a poor quality of life with no proper facilities. Recently many illegal colonies were legalised in delhi without paying any attention to condition of these colonies. People in these colonies live in very bad condition and suffer from many diseases due to unplanned construction. The right decision should have been to give these people new dwellings n some other part of the city and should have done planned residential or commercial development in this area.



Finish the concept of compound wall and gated communities :-


This is really needed if we ever want to see our cities become vibrant and bustling with people. In west they don''t encourage compound walls and that creates a sense of openness and free space. If we look at any cities of America, we find that they don't have the compound wall separating the present plot with the adjacent plot. All the open space is covered by grass and greenery around the plot is encouraged.


Noida and Gr. Noida are bustling with construction. Big commercial and residential buildings are being built. Yet these two cities are facing the above mentioned problems. Noida and Gr Noida have planned layout of the area but they suffer from lack of street pathways and, more so, from the problem of gated communities. The roads have more vehicular activity than residents footfalls. Every buillder is making gated communities and separating the resident of the community from the outside world by building number of residential buildings and then building compound walls around them. This is exact opposite of what a global or vibrant city is supposed to be and


Space between plots or buildings :-

This is the main issue when we talk about the haphazard and uncontrolled horizontal sprawl of delhi. The buildings(commercial and residential) or houses are constructed without leaving any area between them. In other countries, this is not the case, they have some left area between them. The colony or street with houses or buildings build at some distance to each other looks more aesthetic and artistic than houses or building right next to each other in a row without any distance between them, which we see in Delhi.


The meaning of house has to change, if we want to uplift the quality of life of our citizens. Whether a dwelling right next to other dwelling and just adjacent to other is a house for us or dwellings constructed away from each other at with right amount of greenery around is a house in our eyes.


Road with street walkways :-


Every road in India should have footpaths. Pathways, with acceptable width, should be the norm in every city of India. The meaning of the road should be changed in our town planning scheme.

No city in India boasts of good footpaths/street walkways, most even don't have any. Footpaths in Mumbai or in other indian cities are considered, more, an end to either side of the road than a clear and safe way that allows residents of the city to commute. This fact can be gauged by measuring the height and width of footpaths, if any, in mumbai or in any other indian cities. Footpaths should be considered part of a road and not a different premium infrastructure and whenever a city road is laid it should have . The image of Our Tier 1 or Tier 2 cities having 20 million population, or even less than that, with absence of street walkways and people walking on roads and vehicles making their own way through them, clearly states why we don't have any global cities, and quality of life in India continues to remind us why we are a third world country.


I, like all other Indians, have experienced the above problems of living in an Indian city. The civilisation which boasted of well planned cities, like Harappa and Mohenjo-daro, now suffers from such a situation that if urgent look into planned urbanisation isn't given, then the existing cities of India can become the prime factor in destruction of lives of many Indians. The Elphinstone station stampede, where 23 people died, in this regard, reminds us of the same, the years of neglect and the need to analyse the present condition of our tier 1 and tier 2 cities and expand them accordingly.

i hope that my suggestions give some solution to the current problems faced by India's infrastructure condition and hope we see a more Infrastructural advanced India along with an economically advanced India, Thank You.
 

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hi guys, i welcome your suggestions and also would want you to have good discussion around our town planning system, which needs to be revamped just like most of our systems that were formed in 20th century
 

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Hardeep Singh Puri,

Minister of Housing and Urban Affairs(MoHUA),

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Hi sir,

I am an ordinary citizen of India. I want to talk to you on the present condition of infrastructure in India, and so, for that, please take this letter as a formal request and hope that you take a good look at the following issues being raised on the Infrastructure of India.

According to IMF recently, India became 2.6 trillion dollar economy and is on the verge to enter top three economies of the world. Cities have played a major role in attaining this figure. Although cities are revenue generator of the country, this announcement really asks, to any indian citizen for checking the livability standards of our cities and how do they stand among cities of countries whose economy are far less than that of India. The answer was more a question in itself,

We don't have even a single city that could rival any tier 2 or, even, tier 3 cities of the developing countries like Malaysia or South Africa, both quite behind in terms of everything - resources, economy, etc - in comparison to India, let alone the developed world. Many people whom I asked gave Mumbai as an answer. If Mumbai is our global city, then our standards are really poor for tier 1 or global city. Mumbai is the best example of how not to build or expand a city. Gandhi ji once said that if one has to explore real India, he must travel through rail. This aptly implies in the case of Mumbai. I am not, even, talking about to look at the cleanliness of the railway tracks or of that of the railway station, while travelling through Mumbai local. We just have to look at the number of huts or "jhopdis" and people living in them alongside the boundary walls separating railway track and the city.in Mumbai, for every single skyscraper, number of jhopdis can be seen adjacent to that same skyscraper. A city just doesn't only mean skyscrapers or tall buildings, a city is more about the people and their interaction with the surrounding, how much they can enjoy in the city and most important, the cleanliness around in the city

We, in India, equate infrastructure, more so,with km of highways and expressways build rather than with new cities built or existing cities, having more than basic facilities, made more liveable. Sir, a common citizen in India, like me, rarely ever travels on highways around his city, and even when he travels, it is not more than two or three times in his entire life. He travels more on city roads, filled with potholes, while going to office for work, than what a common man will ever do in his his life on highways or expressways. The city roads are where most of his journey of his life is done. Now, this doesn't mean that we stop laying any new highways or stop repairing existing highways. We need highways to connect with hinterlands. But just paying attention to, only, highway construction as the measure of infrastructure spending, and not planned expansion or planned construction of existing or new new cities, respectively and allowing people, who migrate to cities, to assimilate easily in city and not burgeoning the already dilapidated condition of existing cities infrastructure, is not the perfect way to infrastructure development of India.

The migration of people from India to other countries is mainly due to their aspirations of living higher quality of life than what they get to live in india. The migration of an Indian in search of high quality education is complemented by migration of 75 indians in search of high quality of life

I want to present to you some possible solution to the problems faced by India. If India is to develop and become the golden bird our ancestors thought of our land to be, then, complaining shouldn't be the only aim, helping and doing our bit to tackle the problems, also, should be the part of the whole complaint process. The problems faced by India, no matter how complicated they seem, have solutions and fortunately for us, majority of them can be solved by changing our years old town planning system and rules, which needs a re look as being phrased decades ago.


Planned urbanisation and development of new cities :-

New cities must be built, if India is to offset the danger of overpopulation in existing cities and, at least, maintain the present quality of life of Indians. Amid the growing population, we need to build big, global and sustainable cities with world class infrastructure. We can't rely on the present cities have any other alternative as the existing cities have failed to provide the same quality of life like we get

We have to do more planned urbanisation. The map of any city or any area should have not only proper layout of the distribution of land for different purposes, like commercial and residential, but should also have proper layout of roads. The drainage system and water connectivity should be considered in the planning phase itself and not after the plots have been sold.


Illegalize all the colonies outside of the city area :-


This rule is really necessary in countering the haphazard expansion of cities. This is really important not just for maintaining the overall quality of life of the city and its surrounding areas but more so for the quality of life of the dwellers living in these houses. People living in these houses live a poor quality of life with no proper facilities. Recently many illegal colonies were legalised in delhi without paying any attention to condition of these colonies. People in these colonies live in very bad condition and suffer from many diseases due to unplanned construction. The right decision should have been to give these people new dwellings n some other part of the city and should have done planned residential or commercial development in this area.



Finish the concept of compound wall and gated communities :-


This is really needed if we ever want to see our cities become vibrant and bustling with people. In west they don''t encourage compound walls and that creates a sense of openness and free space. If we look at any cities of America, we find that they don't have the compound wall separating the present plot with the adjacent plot. All the open space is covered by grass and greenery around the plot is encouraged.


Noida and Gr. Noida are bustling with construction. Big commercial and residential buildings are being built. Yet these two cities are facing the above mentioned problems. Noida and Gr Noida have planned layout of the area but they suffer from lack of street pathways and, more so, from the problem of gated communities. The roads have more vehicular activity than residents footfalls. Every buillder is making gated communities and separating the resident of the community from the outside world by building number of residential buildings and then building compound walls around them. This is exact opposite of what a global or vibrant city is supposed to be and


Space between plots or buildings :-

This is the main issue when we talk about the haphazard and uncontrolled horizontal sprawl of delhi. The buildings(commercial and residential) or houses are constructed without leaving any area between them. In other countries, this is not the case, they have some left area between them. The colony or street with houses or buildings build at some distance to each other looks more aesthetic and artistic than houses or building right next to each other in a row without any distance between them, which we see in Delhi.


The meaning of house has to change, if we want to uplift the quality of life of our citizens. Whether a dwelling right next to other dwelling and just adjacent to other is a house for us or dwellings constructed away from each other at with right amount of greenery around is a house in our eyes.


Road with street walkways :-


Every road in India should have footpaths. Pathways, with acceptable width, should be the norm in every city of India. The meaning of the road should be changed in our town planning scheme.

No city in India boasts of good footpaths/street walkways, most even don't have any. Footpaths in Mumbai or in other indian cities are considered, more, an end to either side of the road than a clear and safe way that allows residents of the city to commute. This fact can be gauged by measuring the height and width of footpaths, if any, in mumbai or in any other indian cities. Footpaths should be considered part of a road and not a different premium infrastructure and whenever a city road is laid it should have . The image of Our Tier 1 or Tier 2 cities having 20 million population, or even less than that, with absence of street walkways and people walking on roads and vehicles making their own way through them, clearly states why we don't have any global cities, and quality of life in India continues to remind us why we are a third world country.


I, like all other Indians, have experienced the above problems of living in an Indian city. The civilisation which boasted of well planned cities, like Harappa and Mohenjo-daro, now suffers from such a situation that if urgent look into planned urbanisation isn't given, then the existing cities of India can become the prime factor in destruction of lives of many Indians. The Elphinstone station stampede, where 23 people died, in this regard, reminds us of the same, the years of neglect and the need to analyse the present condition of our tier 1 and tier 2 cities and expand them accordingly.

i hope that my suggestions give some solution to the current problems faced by India's infrastructure condition and hope we see a more Infrastructural advanced India along with an economically advanced India, Thank You.
Fundamental misconception is that MoHUA can give what you are asking for... Only state govt and city administration can give you what you are asking for. Central Govt can provide funds and policy guidance, but state govt has to do the work.
 
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First requirement is to bring down the footfall in our cities. It would not be correct to compare Mumbai with cities in Malaysia or anywhere else. Let me present a datasheet here.

pop-density1.jpg

Look at Mumbai in fourth place. Look at its Population and density. Tokyo is the most populous city in world. But look at its population density and that of Mumbai.

Once you are able to control this, things would start to fall in place.
 

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Fundamental mistake in the expectation is that MoHUA cannot give what you are asking for... Only state govt and city administration can give you what you are asking about. Central Govt can provide funds and policy guidance, but state govt has to do the work.
you are right sir. But the first step is to have these policies in place first and so that all the state ULB's and state administration follows this procedure to make more residential plots around cities, which they do using decade's old town planning system. And once the policies are set the funds will be released in keeping in mind that the state government follows the new town planning rules as it has been passed and agreed upon by the lawmakers.
 

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First requirement is to bring down the footfall in our cities. It would not be correct to compare Mumbai with cities in Malaysia or anywhere else. Let me present a datasheet here.

View attachment 24579
Look at Mumbai in fourth place. Look at its Population and density. Tokyo is the most populous city in world. But look at its population density and that of Mumbai.

Once you are able to control this, things would start to fall in place.
Depopulation is highly unlikely. people who get used to metros, cannot go back to anything less.
Only thing can be done now is reduce the inflow in to major cities, while upgrading the infra in major cities.
 

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you are right sir. But the first step is to have these policies in place first and so that all the state ULB's and state administration follows this procedure to make more residential plots around cities, which they do using decade's old town planning system. And once the policies are set the funds will be released in keeping in mind that the state government follows the new town planning rules as it has been passed and agreed upon by the lawmakers.
if your topic of interest is urban planning.

i suggest you visit MoHUA Ministry website, they have various projects to tackle various types of problems ex: amrut intiative. you can see the amount of work that is going on but not reported in MSM.

it's not the case that nothing is happening.
 

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Depopulation is highly unlikely. people who get used to metros, cannot go back to anything less.
Only thing can be done now is reduce the inflow in to major cities, while upgrading the infra in major cities.
Depopulation could be achieved to an extent by expansion. But our problem is in overall population and limited space per person.
 

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you are right sir. But the first step is to have these policies in place first and so that all the state ULB's and state administration follows this procedure to make more residential plots around cities, which they do using decade's old town planning system. And once the policies are set the funds will be released in keeping in mind that the state government follows the new town planning rules as it has been passed and agreed upon by the lawmakers.
Just in case... if you haven't been to delhi or mumbai recently
Gurgaon
Mumbai
 

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First requirement is to bring down the footfall in our cities. It would not be correct to compare Mumbai with cities in Malaysia or anywhere else. Let me present a datasheet here.

View attachment 24579
Look at Mumbai in fourth place. Look at its Population and density. Tokyo is the most populous city in world. But look at its population density and that of Mumbai.

Once you are able to control this, things would start to fall in place.
let me tell you, sir. We can't force people out of any cities to develop our existing cities. we aren't communist. Shanghai, if you know, was developed just like that. They evacuated population from there and build it, We can't even think of doing that. That's why the best alternative for us is making sustainable, PLANNED, future ready cities. That doesn't mean we just discard the redevelopment process. The redevelopment process of Mumbai like cluster redevelopment, slum rehabilitation are paying dividends but what is happening is that we are just focusing on developing just buildings, which is giving rise to same problems like Gated communities, walkways less steets, less open spaces that i just in OP. This can be corrected by revamping our decades old TP system and changing our outlook towards our cities.

You see we have very few Planned Cities in our entire history of infrastructure development. Chandigarh, a planned city, is the closest to what we can say is planned but now as New Chandigarh is being made by extending the present cities by laying plots everywhere without paying much attention to other infrastructure needs of the area.
 

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let me tell you, sir. We can't force people out of any cities to develop our existing cities. we aren't communist. Shanghai, if you know, was developed just like that. They evacuated population from there and build it, We can't even think of doing that. That's why the best alternative for us is making sustainable, PLANNED, future ready cities. That doesn't mean we just discard the redevelopment process. The redevelopment process of Mumbai like cluster redevelopment, slum rehabilitation are paying dividends but what is happening is that we are just focusing on developing just buildings, which is giving rise to same problems like Gated communities, walkways less steets, less open spaces that i just in OP. This can be corrected by revamping our decades old TP system and changing our outlook towards our cities.

You see we have very few Planned Cities in our entire history of infrastructure development. Chandigarh, a planned city, is the closest to what we can say is planned but now as New Chandigarh is being made by extending the present cities by laying plots everywhere without paying much attention to other infrastructure needs of the area.
:laugh::laugh::laugh: Sorry for taking the whole thing in wrong track.

I was not implying of driving population out. What I meant is rehabilitation and expansion and stopping further footfall.
 

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