Indo-US joint military exercise 'Yudh Abhyas 2014' begins

[Ky Loung]

What do you expect form the user of BMW if he be given ambasdor to drive ,we all know Insas looks crude compared to M4 with more rivets used than Ak but it fires same bullet so all in all gets job done.

They are in ambassador mode. Unless there is a fundamental disagreement that can't be work out, US forces won't say anything bad or criticized their counterpart in a joint effort. They are there to increase military relationship and not degrade them. In other words keep your mouth shut and have fun.

 

[Ky Loung]

American's would be amazed to see the Sterling submachine gun still in use ,good they did't bring the bren gun too

I pretty sure every American soldiers would love to shot Sterling and Bren Gun if offer by their Indian counterpart. Hell I love shooting old guns. There is a huge population in American gun community that collect and shoot these relics. I have a decent collection of C&R (Curio or Relic) firearms.

Curio or Relic
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/curios-relics.html#definition

 

[cobra commando]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=j5mLtcwoGJw

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

I think after the US army gets training in India, the US army should engage themselves in some real ant-terrorist operations in Kashmir to test themselves.

 

[rohit b3]

I think after the US army gets training in India, the US army should engage themselves in some real ant-terrorist operations in Kashmir to test themselves.

That would give US a reason to set up a base in India, which India wouldn allow.

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

That would give US a reason to set up a base in India, which India wouldn allow.

Anything temporary which can help India is a good move. But anyway the US soldiers would have seen the thermal videos in which it is clear that terrorists try to sneak through the border fencing from the other side.

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

I meant to say that we can provide US with a temporary arrangement that can be made use off by the US to get hands on experience with Anti-terrorist operations......

 

[Compersion]

I meant to say that we can provide US with a temporary arrangement that can be made use off by the US to get hands on experience with Anti-terrorist operations......

The afganistan and Pakistan border

Drone attacks inside Pakistan.

The Americans have sufficient arrangements and opportunities for anti - terrorist operations. IN fact they are master of attacking and killing terrorist inside Pakistan (don't forget Abbottabad)

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

The afganistan and Pakistan border

Drone attacks inside Pakistan.

The Americans have sufficient arrangements and opportunities for anti - terrorist operations. IN fact they are master of attacking and killing terrorist inside Pakistan (don't forget Abbottabad)

They trained in India in the hills of Meghalaya in jungle warfare. India trained them. If they (US) were really masters, then why did it take 10 years to find and kill OBL..... u r joking. We took whole of pakistan in 10 days. They fought for 10 years and achieved nothing in Afghanisthan......

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

In 1971 Indo-pak war India took control of both east and west pakistan in 10 days, to be exact it was fought for 13 days, from December 3- 16 1971......

My father was in the war.....

Now, who is a master? Indian Army which took east and est pakistan in 10 days or America who fought for 10 years and killed OBL after 10 years and even after killing OBL still did not achieve anything.

India on the other hand achieved BANGLADESH, we gave freedom for BANGLADESH in just 10 days. India achieved what it aimed at, in 10 days......

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

Guys please post sensibly.... killing OBL took 10 years. If one is a master of an art, it won't take 10 years to kill a person.

Its laughable....

If American Army is really so powerful, then why come to India and train in Jungle warfare schools in Meghalaya.....

 

[Ky Loung]

We do what the Roman of past did. We learn from others to be better fighters. We take tactics and buy arms better than US. Like the Romans we use their own tactics and weapons against them. American have a lot of national pride but our pride won't blind us to not use/buy the best from other nations. The American military is always learning.

The USA is the only nation since WWII that fought at least one war per decade. We are the only nation that fought wars in all four corner of the world since WWII. We are the most experience fighting force in the world.

 

[ezsasa]

They trained in India in the hills of Meghalaya in jungle warfare. India trained them. If they (US) were really masters, then why did it take 10 years to find and kill OBL..... u r joking. We took whole of pakistan in 10 days. They fought for 10 years and achieved nothing in Afghanisthan......

From a jingoistic perspective you may be right but let us not get carried away. "India trained them" is a wrong statement , optimal statement would be "we trained together". Let us not get ahead of ourselves. The fact that they went after a whole country just for one man takes some guts, infact they did it twice. The world is a different ball game since india last went into a full fledged war(kargil doesn't count as a war technically).

As far as Afghanistan is concerned, military-wise they have checked out all the boxes. The failure is at diplomatic level by not achieving to set-up a fully functional Afghan government. Technically speaking americans are doing the same thing in Afghanistan what we did in sri lanka which is pulling out before the job is done 100%.

 

[W.G.Ewald]

If they (US) were really masters, then why did it take 10 years to find and kill OBL

Story is here.

Zero Dark Thirty (2012) - IMDb

 

[Ky Loung]

From a jingoistic perspective you may be right but let us not get carried away. "India trained them" is a wrong statement , optimal statement would be "we trained together". Let us not get ahead of ourselves. The fact that they went after a whole country just for one man takes some guts, infact they did it twice. The world is a different ball game since india last went into a full fledged war(kargil doesn't count as a war technically).

As far as Afghanistan is concerned, military-wise they have checked out all the boxes. The failure is at diplomatic level by not achieving to set-up a fully functional Afghan government. Technically speaking americans are doing the same thing in Afghanistan what we did in sri lanka which is pulling out before the job is done 100%.

I think it more of military diplomacy. Design to strengthen military ties between two nation with a common goal. The US military do that a lot. We got more than enough training in counter insurgency and anti-terrorism in Afghanistan.

Afghanistan is the longest America war. 15 years now if I'm correct. Tactically North Korea is the longest American War because we never sign a peace treaty with them. Almost every American soldiers sooner or later spent 2 years in South Korea to make sure the North Korea don't do a sneak attack on the South.

Iraq was stable when American troops station there. The former Iraqi president (deposed by his own government a month or two back) didn't give American troops immunities. So our dumb liberal ass president Obama decided it was a good excuse to pull out. The Iraqi military wanted us to stay. The Iraqi people wanted us to stay because US military provide lots of money and stability to the region. The ISIS saw the opening when we left. Personally I think the Iraqi people should hang their former president for going full retard.

On the bright side of things, Obama did not remove all of US ground forces from Iraq. A large number of Special Operation Forces remained in Iraq to help train the Iraqi military. They are currently fighting the ISIS in Iraq.

Are American Troops Already Fighting on the Front Lines in Iraq? - The Daily Beast

Our relationship with Afghan old president was not good. There were times US were tempted to get out of Afghanistan. Ashraf Ghani is now the President of Afghanistan. He is a US citizen but gave it up to run for the office. Afghanistan is a low conflict light infantry war. It give us lots of experience.

With the continue war in Afghanistan and we just started another war against the ISIS. Our long running streak still continue. IIRC the only decade the US did not go to war in the 20th century was the 1930's but don't hold me to it.

 

[sydsnyper]

While that is true.... we still have not been able to even realistically threaten dawood or his criminal terrorist empire..... at least the americans went after their target wholeheartedly and got him at the end...

Guys please post sensibly.... killing OBL took 10 years. If one is a master of an art, it won't take 10 years to kill a person.

Its laughable....

If American Army is really so powerful, then why come to India and train in Jungle warfare schools in Meghalaya.....

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

Story is here.

Zero Dark Thirty (2012) - IMDb

I went to the movie Sir.... First day matinee show....

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

From a jingoistic perspective you may be right but let us not get carried away. "India trained them" is a wrong statement , optimal statement would be "we trained together". Let us not get ahead of ourselves. The fact that they went after a whole country just for one man takes some guts, infact they did it twice. The world is a different ball game since india last went into a full fledged war(kargil doesn't count as a war technically).

As far as Afghanistan is concerned, military-wise they have checked out all the boxes. The failure is at diplomatic level by not achieving to set-up a fully functional Afghan government. Technically speaking americans are doing the same thing in Afghanistan what we did in sri lanka which is pulling out before the job is done 100%.

Please check. They trained in India, was not about killing of OBL. They were trained to counter guerrilla's in Af-Pak......

American navy seals have their own training. But India tops in guerrilla warfare training. They came to India for training in guerrilla warfare......

 

[sesha_maruthi27]

Taking into account the successes in combating militancy New Delhi opened the school to soldiers from other countries in 2001. Three US army officers were the first overseas batch to be trained. After the 9/11 terror strikes in the US the jungle warfare school at Vairengte began attracting military cadets from across the world. In 2003, a group of about 100 elite US commandos completed a three-week anti-insurgency combat training at the institute. The exercise, code-named Balance Iroquois, saw personnel of the US Special Forces undergo an intensive exercise along with soldiers from the Indian Special Forces battalion at Vairengte. Troops were trained to feed on venomous vipers, dogs and monkeys as part of military exercises to sharpen their skills in jungle survival and combat. Indian Army soldiers and U.S. Army and National Guard soldiers trained together in Operation YUDH ABHYAS 04-1 the two forces focused on reflexive firing, ambush, jungle patrolling, survival in the jungle and a fast roping technique called slithering. France, UK, Israel and Italy are the latest have sought India's help to train their soldiers in counter-insurgency operations at this elite facility

Counter-insurgency and Jungle Warfare School - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

US marines to learn guerrilla warfare in Mizoram

60 US marines arrives in Mizoram for training on guerilla warfare

 

[thethinker]

Soldiers from other countries are trained in India at Mizoram for quite some time now.

Dozen nations seek guerrilla warfare training in India

Dozen nations seek guerrilla warfare training in India
Last Updated(Beijing Time):2004-08-22 15:12

France and Italy are the latest among a dozen nations that have sought India's help to train their soldiers in counter-insurgency operations at an elite facility located in Mizoram state in northeast India, the Indo-Asian News Service (IANS) reported Saturday.

A group of US commandos was the last batch of foreign soldiers who in April completed a rigorous three-week anti-insurgency combat course with Indian anti-terror experts in the Counter Insurgency and Jungle Warfare School (CIJWS) at Vairengte in Mizoram.

Britain recently sought the services of experts from CIJWS to set up a similar institute in that country, a CIJWS official said.

France, Uzbekistan, Italy and some African countries have made queries and expressed their desire to train their soldiers at Vairengte this year, a senior official at CIJWS told IANS on telephone, requesting anonymity.

"The normal schedule is about six weeks, during which a soldierundergoes strenuous drills that make him conversant with the finernuances of guerrilla warfare and low-intensity conflicts," the official said.

Established in 1970, the school at Vairengte is considered one of the world's most prestigious anti-terrorist institutions.

In 2001, New Delhi opened the school at Vairengte to foreign soldiers, with three US Army officers being the first overseas batch to be trained there. Expert instructors have also trained soldiers from Nepal and Nigeria, besides the United States and a few other countries.

India's northeast is home to about 30-odd rebel armies with demands ranging from secession to greater autonomy and the right to self-determination.

The CIJWS was set up after Indian soldiers suffered heavy casualties at the hands of northeastern rebels who are adept in hit-and-run guerrilla strikes.

Over 50,000 persons have lost their lives to insurgency in the northeast since India's independence in 1947.