Russia will like to keep pakfa technology secrets to itself but we will squeeze some out, dont worry. Even if FGFA is little better (as far as ToT is concerned) than MKI, I wont really mind. But I think India will gain a lot more from FGFA program as our industry will be a lot more developed to absorb latest technologies after MRCA /LCA MK2 programs when FGFA will really come 2018 onwards. Still there is a lot of time to go and agreements will come in due time. But I think the biggest program in Indian Aviation will be AMCA if it gets approved.
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India says seeks long-term diamond supply contracts with Russia
New Delhi and Moscow are negotiating long-term contracts to supply diamonds from Russia and the opening of an office for Russian diamond monopoly ALROSA in India, the Indian Trade Ministry said on Friday.
Indian Trade Minister Anand Sharma has this week met with his Russian counterpart Viktor Khristenko. Sharma "is satisfied with the bilateral discussion of possible rough diamond supplies to India under long-term agreements and the opening of an ALROSA office in India," the ministry says.
A source close to the negotiations said the Indian initiative had to be discussed with ALROSA first.
"India doesn't want to buy diamonds on a tender basis, but wants to sign long-term intergovernmental diamond supply contracts with Russia, while the Russian side said that ALROSA is a large company, so the issue should be first of all discussed with the company itself," the source told RIA Novosti.
According to Indian statistics, excluding arms deals, in 2009-2010 financial years, Indian-Russian trade amounted to $4.54 billion, while the goal is to reach $20 billion by 2015.
Last year India agreed direct diamond supplies with Namibia to raise the competitiveness of the Indian jewelry industry, centred on in the city of Surat in the west of the country.
NEW DELHI, October 1 (RIA Novosti)
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India, Russia To Hold 10th Meeting On Defense Relations
NEW DELHI - The 10th annual Indian-Russian meeting to review defense ties will be held here Oct. 7. The two sides of the India Russia Inter-Governmental Commission on Military Technical Cooperation will discuss wants to boost defense relations, said a senior Indian Defence Ministry official
Russian Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov will co-chair the commission with Indian Defence Minister A.K. Antony.
An Indian Defence Ministry release says, "the two Defence Ministers are also expected to discuss regional and global security issues. India and Russia share long-standing friendly relations. Since the establishment of a strategic partnership between the two countries in the year 2000, the two governments have steadily developed and strengthened bilateral cooperation covering a range of areas, of which defense forms a significant component. The two countries share a vibrant and a multifaceted military technical cooperation which includes not only supply of defense equipment and systems but also collaboration in [research and development] and production."
The commission, headed by the two defense ministers, was instituted in 2000 to further bilateral defense cooperation. The previous nine meetings have alternated between New Delhi and Moscow.
India and Russia have already signed an agreement committing them to military cooperation until 2020. The two countries have agreed to jointly build a fifth-generation fighter aircraft for use by both air forces.
India, Russia To Hold 10th Meeting On Defense Relations - Defense News
NEW DELHI - The 10th annual Indian-Russian meeting to review defense ties will be held here Oct. 7. The two sides of the India Russia Inter-Governmental Commission on Military Technical Cooperation will discuss wants to boost defense relations, said a senior Indian Defence Ministry official
Russian Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov will co-chair the commission with Indian Defence Minister A.K. Antony.
An Indian Defence Ministry release says, "the two Defence Ministers are also expected to discuss regional and global security issues. India and Russia share long-standing friendly relations. Since the establishment of a strategic partnership between the two countries in the year 2000, the two governments have steadily developed and strengthened bilateral cooperation covering a range of areas, of which defense forms a significant component. The two countries share a vibrant and a multifaceted military technical cooperation which includes not only supply of defense equipment and systems but also collaboration in [research and development] and production."
The commission, headed by the two defense ministers, was instituted in 2000 to further bilateral defense cooperation. The previous nine meetings have alternated between New Delhi and Moscow.
India and Russia have already signed an agreement committing them to military cooperation until 2020. The two countries have agreed to jointly build a fifth-generation fighter aircraft for use by both air forces.
India, Russia To Hold 10th Meeting On Defense Relations - Defense News
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FGFA, nuke sub on discussion table at Indo-Russian talks
NEW DELHI (PTI): Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) deal worth USD 25 billion and leasing of Akula-II nuclear submarine are likely to top the agenda when India and Russia hold their annual talks on defence cooperation here on Thursday.
Defence Minister A K Antony and his Russian counterpart Anatoly Serdyukov will meet here for the 10th India-Russia Inter-Governmental Commission on Military Technical Cooperation (IRIGC-MTC) to discuss a range of issues.
Serdyukov, who will be co-chairing the Commission along with Antony, will arrive here Wednesday accompanied by a large delegation of Russian defence ministry and industry representatives.
The IRIGC-MTC, headed by the Defence Ministers of the two countries, was instituted in the year 2000 with an objective to further the bilateral defence cooperation.
Nine meetings of the Commission have been held so far, in New Delhi and Moscow, every alternate year.
India - Russia FGFA
The two Defence Ministers are also expected to discuss regional and global security issues. "Since the establishment of a strategic partnership between the two countries in the year 2000, the two governments have steadily developed and strengthened bilateral cooperation covering a range of areas, of which defence forms a significant component," a Defence ministry statement here said.
The two countries share a vibrant and a multifaceted military technical cooperation which includes not only supply of defence equipment and systems, but also collaboration in Research and Development and production.
As far as FGFA was concerned, India plans to get 250 of the fighter jets for the Air Force, while the nuclear submarine will be leased by the Navy for 10 years to train its personnel before INS Arihant indigenous submarine joins the fleet.
Among other issue that is expected to come up during the talks include co-development of a Hypersonic BRAHMOS Missile, a joint venture between the two countries. The two countries have already developed a BRAHMOS supersonic cruise missile for the Army, Air Force and Navy.
The two sides also have agreements for India to produce T-90 tanks for its army under licensing. India would be having 1,640 T-90s in service by 2020.
Recently, India's HAL signed a contract with the Russian Rosoboronexport for joint development of multi-role transport aircraft.
FGFA, nuke sub on discussion table at Indo-Russian talks :: Brahmand.com
NEW DELHI (PTI): Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) deal worth USD 25 billion and leasing of Akula-II nuclear submarine are likely to top the agenda when India and Russia hold their annual talks on defence cooperation here on Thursday.
Defence Minister A K Antony and his Russian counterpart Anatoly Serdyukov will meet here for the 10th India-Russia Inter-Governmental Commission on Military Technical Cooperation (IRIGC-MTC) to discuss a range of issues.
Serdyukov, who will be co-chairing the Commission along with Antony, will arrive here Wednesday accompanied by a large delegation of Russian defence ministry and industry representatives.
The IRIGC-MTC, headed by the Defence Ministers of the two countries, was instituted in the year 2000 with an objective to further the bilateral defence cooperation.
Nine meetings of the Commission have been held so far, in New Delhi and Moscow, every alternate year.
India - Russia FGFA
The two Defence Ministers are also expected to discuss regional and global security issues. "Since the establishment of a strategic partnership between the two countries in the year 2000, the two governments have steadily developed and strengthened bilateral cooperation covering a range of areas, of which defence forms a significant component," a Defence ministry statement here said.
The two countries share a vibrant and a multifaceted military technical cooperation which includes not only supply of defence equipment and systems, but also collaboration in Research and Development and production.
As far as FGFA was concerned, India plans to get 250 of the fighter jets for the Air Force, while the nuclear submarine will be leased by the Navy for 10 years to train its personnel before INS Arihant indigenous submarine joins the fleet.
Among other issue that is expected to come up during the talks include co-development of a Hypersonic BRAHMOS Missile, a joint venture between the two countries. The two countries have already developed a BRAHMOS supersonic cruise missile for the Army, Air Force and Navy.
The two sides also have agreements for India to produce T-90 tanks for its army under licensing. India would be having 1,640 T-90s in service by 2020.
Recently, India's HAL signed a contract with the Russian Rosoboronexport for joint development of multi-role transport aircraft.
FGFA, nuke sub on discussion table at Indo-Russian talks :: Brahmand.com
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I don't think that our side should take a JV refusal seriously. I mean who the hell cares whether there's a specific company as long as we are getting the PAKFA/FGFA in IAF? For example, there's no damn JV for making the F-35 between the 12 NATO nations. We're getting 25% rights in bringing our side of tech cooperation of which I am sure that we've not unraveled anything further in stealth tech that we need to be asking for a greater share.
Rather our sarkari dodos must stop grumbling for their personal ego sakes and use this opportunity to get maximum benefits of stealth technology so that they can incorporate it in AMCA as well and consolidate IAF's 45 squadron plan rather than wasting time on STUPID issues like they always do since last 62 years.
Rather our sarkari dodos must stop grumbling for their personal ego sakes and use this opportunity to get maximum benefits of stealth technology so that they can incorporate it in AMCA as well and consolidate IAF's 45 squadron plan rather than wasting time on STUPID issues like they always do since last 62 years.
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Russian defense minister visits India
Russian Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov, on a two-day visit to India since Wednesday, will discuss bilateral military cooperation on Thursday, his spokeswoman said.
"The Russian defense minister will attend the tenth meeting of the Russian-Indian intergovernmental commission on military and technical cooperation," Lt. Col. Irina Kovalchuk told journalists.
Serdyukov will hold talks with his Indian counterpart Arackaparambil Kurian Antony.
She said the sides will sum up defense activities in 2009 and outline priority tasks to further develop military cooperation.
"After the meeting the sides are to sign the final protocol defining the basic directions of bilateral military and technical cooperation and specifying ways to implement the current projects," Kovalchuk said.
Serdyukov will hold talks with his Indian counterpart Arackaparambil Kurian Antony.
According to Kovalchuk, the key issues for the intergovernmental commission's consideration are the retrofit by Russia of the Admiral Gorshkov aircraft carrier for India's Navy and licensed manufacturing of Sukhoi Su-30MKI Flanker-H and T-90S tanks in India.
The Admiral Gorshkov is a modified Kiev-class aircraft carrier, originally named Baku. The ship was laid down in 1978 at the Nikolayev South shipyard in Ukraine, launched in 1982, and commissioned with the Soviet Navy in 1987.
It was renamed after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. In 1994, following a boiler room explosion, the Admiral Gorshkov sat in dock for a year for repairs. In 1995, it briefly returned to service and in 1996 was finally withdrawn and put up for sale.
The ship has a displacement capacity of 45,000 tons. It has a maximum speed of 32 knots and an endurance of 13,500 nautical miles (25,000 km) at a cruising speed of 18 knots.
The Russian-Indian commission's agenda also includes cooperation in developing and manufacturing a fifth generation fighter and a multipurpose transport aircraft, as well as joint production of BrahMos cruise missiles.
The BrahMos missile has a range of 290 km (180 miles) and can carry a conventional warhead of up to 300 kg (660 lbs). It can effectively engage targets from an altitude as low as 10 meters (30 feet) and has a top speed of Mach 2.8, which is about three times faster than the U.S.-made subsonic Tomahawk cruise missile.
Established in 1998, Russian-Indian joint venture BrahMos Aerospace manufactures and markets BrahMos supersonic missiles. Sea- and ground-launched versions have been successfully tested and put into service with the Indian Army and Navy.
NEW DELHI, October 7 (RIA Novosti)
Russian defense minister visits India | Defense | RIA Novosti
Russian Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov, on a two-day visit to India since Wednesday, will discuss bilateral military cooperation on Thursday, his spokeswoman said.
"The Russian defense minister will attend the tenth meeting of the Russian-Indian intergovernmental commission on military and technical cooperation," Lt. Col. Irina Kovalchuk told journalists.
Serdyukov will hold talks with his Indian counterpart Arackaparambil Kurian Antony.
She said the sides will sum up defense activities in 2009 and outline priority tasks to further develop military cooperation.
"After the meeting the sides are to sign the final protocol defining the basic directions of bilateral military and technical cooperation and specifying ways to implement the current projects," Kovalchuk said.
Serdyukov will hold talks with his Indian counterpart Arackaparambil Kurian Antony.
According to Kovalchuk, the key issues for the intergovernmental commission's consideration are the retrofit by Russia of the Admiral Gorshkov aircraft carrier for India's Navy and licensed manufacturing of Sukhoi Su-30MKI Flanker-H and T-90S tanks in India.
The Admiral Gorshkov is a modified Kiev-class aircraft carrier, originally named Baku. The ship was laid down in 1978 at the Nikolayev South shipyard in Ukraine, launched in 1982, and commissioned with the Soviet Navy in 1987.
It was renamed after the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991. In 1994, following a boiler room explosion, the Admiral Gorshkov sat in dock for a year for repairs. In 1995, it briefly returned to service and in 1996 was finally withdrawn and put up for sale.
The ship has a displacement capacity of 45,000 tons. It has a maximum speed of 32 knots and an endurance of 13,500 nautical miles (25,000 km) at a cruising speed of 18 knots.
The Russian-Indian commission's agenda also includes cooperation in developing and manufacturing a fifth generation fighter and a multipurpose transport aircraft, as well as joint production of BrahMos cruise missiles.
The BrahMos missile has a range of 290 km (180 miles) and can carry a conventional warhead of up to 300 kg (660 lbs). It can effectively engage targets from an altitude as low as 10 meters (30 feet) and has a top speed of Mach 2.8, which is about three times faster than the U.S.-made subsonic Tomahawk cruise missile.
Established in 1998, Russian-Indian joint venture BrahMos Aerospace manufactures and markets BrahMos supersonic missiles. Sea- and ground-launched versions have been successfully tested and put into service with the Indian Army and Navy.
NEW DELHI, October 7 (RIA Novosti)
Russian defense minister visits India | Defense | RIA Novosti
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India, Russia to revive joint military drills
NEW DELHI (PTI): India and Russia will revive the joint military exercise series that focuses on counter- terrorism training.
The 'Indra-2010' will be held in Chaubattia in Uttarakhand between October 15 and 24, Defence Ministry officials said here Wednesday.
The battalion-level exercise will comprise of infantry troops from both the armies who would work out insurgency and terrorism situations and plan and execute an operation to counter these, particularly in a mountainous terrain, they said.
Other elements from both the armies include observers, air elements and representatives from the Defence Ministries of both countries.
The Russian complement would include 257 personnel and the Indian side will be represented by an infantry battalion.
"Indra-2010 is intended to enhance the defence cooperation and military-to-military relations between the two armies," they added.
The first of the 'Indra' exercise series was conducted in India in October 2005 and the second was held in Russia in 2007. Since then the two armies have not held an exercise under the series for the last three years.
The Indo-Russian Army exercise comes in the wake of an inter-governmental commission for military and technical cooperation headed by the Defence Ministers of both the countries meeting in Delhi Thursday.
Indian Defence Minister A K Antony and his Russian counterpart Anatoly Serdyukov will meet here to discuss defence relations, buying and selling of military hardware and cooperation in military technologies.
India, Russia to revive joint military drills :: Brahmand.com
NEW DELHI (PTI): India and Russia will revive the joint military exercise series that focuses on counter- terrorism training.
The 'Indra-2010' will be held in Chaubattia in Uttarakhand between October 15 and 24, Defence Ministry officials said here Wednesday.
The battalion-level exercise will comprise of infantry troops from both the armies who would work out insurgency and terrorism situations and plan and execute an operation to counter these, particularly in a mountainous terrain, they said.
Other elements from both the armies include observers, air elements and representatives from the Defence Ministries of both countries.
The Russian complement would include 257 personnel and the Indian side will be represented by an infantry battalion.
"Indra-2010 is intended to enhance the defence cooperation and military-to-military relations between the two armies," they added.
The first of the 'Indra' exercise series was conducted in India in October 2005 and the second was held in Russia in 2007. Since then the two armies have not held an exercise under the series for the last three years.
The Indo-Russian Army exercise comes in the wake of an inter-governmental commission for military and technical cooperation headed by the Defence Ministers of both the countries meeting in Delhi Thursday.
Indian Defence Minister A K Antony and his Russian counterpart Anatoly Serdyukov will meet here to discuss defence relations, buying and selling of military hardware and cooperation in military technologies.
India, Russia to revive joint military drills :: Brahmand.com
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^ This is the need of the hour, folks. Counter-terrorist tactics and joint maneuvers in mountainous and jungle terrains. This can be a good practice for Russian army fighting the Chechen terrorists and our soldiers fighting the fake-Kashmiri cross-border terrorist scumbags. We need to gain mastery from SPETSNAZ on counter-terror big time especially in urban terror situations to avoid situations like 26/11 in case (goodness forbid) happens again.
Pakistan will now try to target cities, mainly the big cities more since that is where all industrial and economic development is taking place. So we need to gear up for how to tackle such a situation properly without risking our soldiers or getting hostages killed.
1) Mountains-- fake-Kashmiri terrorists
2) Jungles-- Bloody Communist Naxalite terrorists
3) Cities-- 26/11 style terrorists from Pakistan.
These are the 3 areas where we need to boost up our capabilities and tactics and who're more ideal in practicing with than SPETSNAZ and S-13 (Israel)? Both have multiple experiences and a deadly reputation that follows them worldwide.
Pakistan will now try to target cities, mainly the big cities more since that is where all industrial and economic development is taking place. So we need to gear up for how to tackle such a situation properly without risking our soldiers or getting hostages killed.
1) Mountains-- fake-Kashmiri terrorists
2) Jungles-- Bloody Communist Naxalite terrorists
3) Cities-- 26/11 style terrorists from Pakistan.
These are the 3 areas where we need to boost up our capabilities and tactics and who're more ideal in practicing with than SPETSNAZ and S-13 (Israel)? Both have multiple experiences and a deadly reputation that follows them worldwide.
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India flags delays in delivery of Russian defence systems
Read more: India flags delays in delivery of Russian defence systems - The Times of India India flags delays in delivery of Russian defence systems - The Times of India
NEW DELHI: India today flagged the delays in delivery of Russian defence systems such as Gorshkov aircraft carrier and nuclear submarine at an inter-governmental meet.
Defence Minister A K Antony and his Russian counterpart Anatoly Serdyukov, who met here over the last two days, also decided to take forward the joint fifth generation combat jets (FGFA) and mutirole transport aircraft (MTA) projects over the next 10 years, under which India would get about 250 to 300 of FGFAs and 45 MTAs.
They signed a protocol for furthering of defence ties between the two nations and continuing till 2020 the military technical commission, a unique arrangement, that the two nations have.
"There are some areas of concern such as the delays (in delivery of defence systems). All these issues, we discussed over yesterday and today," Antony said at a joint press conference with Serdyukov here after the 10th Inter- Governmental Commission for Military and Technical Cooperation (IGC-MTC) meeting.
However, he said, the two sides also decided to find a satisfactory solution to the issue, with Serdyukov assuring Antony that he would take "personal interest" in the projects and satisfactorily solve the problems they were encountering.
"I am happy about the outcome of the meeting," he added. He pointed out that India and Russia were pursuing a large number of joint projects for defence systems and equipment for the Army, the Navy, the Air Force and the DRDO including BrahMos supersonic cruise missiles.
India had bought Gorshkov in 2004 for USD 974 million and its delivery, originally fixed for 2008, has now been finalised for 2012-13 after India fulfilled the Russia's demand for USD 2.34 billion early this year.
In the case of the Akula-II nuclear powered submarine, the two sides have now reportedly postponed the delivery to March next year, though India was supposed to get it last year after trials.
Serdyukov seconded Antony's views on the numerous joint projects, but said he too had raised certain issues with his Indian counterpart, which the two sides agreed to resolve to the satisfaction of both.
Noting that there was a "great volume" of joint projects between the two countries, Serdyukov said, "it is but natural that in such a number of projects we have some delays. I underscore that it is critical to these projects."
Noting that FGFA and MTA would be the "flagship" Indo-Russian joint projects for the next 10 years, Antony said India would get about 250 to 300 of FGFA and 45 MTAs.
He said the two countries had already signed the shareholders agreement for the MTA project, while a joint venture was being finalised for the same.
"We have discussed all issues and these have been resolved satisfactorily. We are in the final stages and the proposals are currently with Indian government for some technical formality. We will finalise them very soon and sign the final agreements (for FGFA and MTAs) within a few months," he added.
Read more: India flags delays in delivery of Russian defence systems - The Times of India India flags delays in delivery of Russian defence systems - The Times of India
Read more: India flags delays in delivery of Russian defence systems - The Times of India India flags delays in delivery of Russian defence systems - The Times of India
NEW DELHI: India today flagged the delays in delivery of Russian defence systems such as Gorshkov aircraft carrier and nuclear submarine at an inter-governmental meet.
Defence Minister A K Antony and his Russian counterpart Anatoly Serdyukov, who met here over the last two days, also decided to take forward the joint fifth generation combat jets (FGFA) and mutirole transport aircraft (MTA) projects over the next 10 years, under which India would get about 250 to 300 of FGFAs and 45 MTAs.
They signed a protocol for furthering of defence ties between the two nations and continuing till 2020 the military technical commission, a unique arrangement, that the two nations have.
"There are some areas of concern such as the delays (in delivery of defence systems). All these issues, we discussed over yesterday and today," Antony said at a joint press conference with Serdyukov here after the 10th Inter- Governmental Commission for Military and Technical Cooperation (IGC-MTC) meeting.
However, he said, the two sides also decided to find a satisfactory solution to the issue, with Serdyukov assuring Antony that he would take "personal interest" in the projects and satisfactorily solve the problems they were encountering.
"I am happy about the outcome of the meeting," he added. He pointed out that India and Russia were pursuing a large number of joint projects for defence systems and equipment for the Army, the Navy, the Air Force and the DRDO including BrahMos supersonic cruise missiles.
India had bought Gorshkov in 2004 for USD 974 million and its delivery, originally fixed for 2008, has now been finalised for 2012-13 after India fulfilled the Russia's demand for USD 2.34 billion early this year.
In the case of the Akula-II nuclear powered submarine, the two sides have now reportedly postponed the delivery to March next year, though India was supposed to get it last year after trials.
Serdyukov seconded Antony's views on the numerous joint projects, but said he too had raised certain issues with his Indian counterpart, which the two sides agreed to resolve to the satisfaction of both.
Noting that there was a "great volume" of joint projects between the two countries, Serdyukov said, "it is but natural that in such a number of projects we have some delays. I underscore that it is critical to these projects."
Noting that FGFA and MTA would be the "flagship" Indo-Russian joint projects for the next 10 years, Antony said India would get about 250 to 300 of FGFA and 45 MTAs.
He said the two countries had already signed the shareholders agreement for the MTA project, while a joint venture was being finalised for the same.
"We have discussed all issues and these have been resolved satisfactorily. We are in the final stages and the proposals are currently with Indian government for some technical formality. We will finalise them very soon and sign the final agreements (for FGFA and MTAs) within a few months," he added.
Read more: India flags delays in delivery of Russian defence systems - The Times of India India flags delays in delivery of Russian defence systems - The Times of India
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Russia has no plans to leave Indian arms market
BY: Voice of Russia
Competition is growing on the Indian arms market. Contracts worth billions for the supply of various types of military hardware to India, are attracting more and more players like a magnet. And as for Americans, they demonstrate excessive zeal to win the Indian market. However, Russia has no plans to lose its role as the leading player there. Therefore, the visit of the Russian Defence Minister Anatoly Serdyukov to India, which he started on October 6th, is causing heightened interest in many countries.
According to Indian officials, more than 70 per cent of the Indian arms have become outdated and should be replaced. A considerable part of them was supplied by Russia 20 or even more years ago. The Russian armaments proved reliable, and India used them all these years. But in the course of time there emerged more technologically advanced types of armaments, and India would like its foreign partners to supply them to it. The broadening of the military-technical cooperation with India is the key issue at the talks Anatoly Serdyukov is holding in Delhi.
Last month India's Minister of Defence visited the USA, where he also discussed U.S.- India military cooperation with the U.S. military command. As a result, a number of agreements were signed and big contracts, due to be signed during the visit of the U.S. President Barack Obama to India next month, were specified. In the present-day struggle Russia can win only if it offers better goods under better terms.
Moscow and Delhi have long ago given up the idea to continue developing a "buyer-seller" relationship and launched joint production of high-tech military equipment, which India does with no other country of the world. None of the world's countries has a long-term programme for military-technical cooperation with India either, like the one Russia and India signed in December of last year for the period till 2020.
The Director of the Centre for the Analysis of the World Arms Trade Igor Korotchenko says:
"Russia has proved a reliable, predictable and pragmatic partner, which, supplying arms to India, does not demand any political conditions. As distinct from the USA, which under the influence of various political factors, at any moment, can either halt cooperation or freeze the contract, or even suspend the supplies of spare parts, Russia does nothing of the kind. So that the Indian Army, Navy and Air Force can meet both the challenges and the criteria of the 21st century, we offer our partner good, reliable and modern systems of armaments."
Russia and India are sure that their military-technical contacts will continue developing successfully, despite the growing rivalry on the Indian arms market. These contacts pose no threat to other countries, since the two countries are implementing a peaceful policy in both the region and the world at large. Serdyukov's talks in Delhi can be regarded as preparations for the visit of the Russian President Dmitry Medvedev to India, due to take place late this year. And military-technical cooperation will figure prominently during his stay in Delhi.
BY: Voice of Russia
Competition is growing on the Indian arms market. Contracts worth billions for the supply of various types of military hardware to India, are attracting more and more players like a magnet. And as for Americans, they demonstrate excessive zeal to win the Indian market. However, Russia has no plans to lose its role as the leading player there. Therefore, the visit of the Russian Defence Minister Anatoly Serdyukov to India, which he started on October 6th, is causing heightened interest in many countries.
According to Indian officials, more than 70 per cent of the Indian arms have become outdated and should be replaced. A considerable part of them was supplied by Russia 20 or even more years ago. The Russian armaments proved reliable, and India used them all these years. But in the course of time there emerged more technologically advanced types of armaments, and India would like its foreign partners to supply them to it. The broadening of the military-technical cooperation with India is the key issue at the talks Anatoly Serdyukov is holding in Delhi.
Last month India's Minister of Defence visited the USA, where he also discussed U.S.- India military cooperation with the U.S. military command. As a result, a number of agreements were signed and big contracts, due to be signed during the visit of the U.S. President Barack Obama to India next month, were specified. In the present-day struggle Russia can win only if it offers better goods under better terms.
Moscow and Delhi have long ago given up the idea to continue developing a "buyer-seller" relationship and launched joint production of high-tech military equipment, which India does with no other country of the world. None of the world's countries has a long-term programme for military-technical cooperation with India either, like the one Russia and India signed in December of last year for the period till 2020.
The Director of the Centre for the Analysis of the World Arms Trade Igor Korotchenko says:
"Russia has proved a reliable, predictable and pragmatic partner, which, supplying arms to India, does not demand any political conditions. As distinct from the USA, which under the influence of various political factors, at any moment, can either halt cooperation or freeze the contract, or even suspend the supplies of spare parts, Russia does nothing of the kind. So that the Indian Army, Navy and Air Force can meet both the challenges and the criteria of the 21st century, we offer our partner good, reliable and modern systems of armaments."
Russia and India are sure that their military-technical contacts will continue developing successfully, despite the growing rivalry on the Indian arms market. These contacts pose no threat to other countries, since the two countries are implementing a peaceful policy in both the region and the world at large. Serdyukov's talks in Delhi can be regarded as preparations for the visit of the Russian President Dmitry Medvedev to India, due to take place late this year. And military-technical cooperation will figure prominently during his stay in Delhi.
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India has kept the Russian arms market thriving for decades why would they leave now with India's economy booming??
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India jets order boosts ailing Russian defence industry
MOSCOW: Russia's ailing defence industry has received one of its biggest boosts in years with a huge fighter jet deal with India, but much of the sector remains stuck in a Soviet-era time warp, analysts said.
India announced Wednesday it planned to buy up to 300 fifth-generation stealth fighters that would be jointly developed with Russia in a deal that may be worth up to USD 30 billion (22 billion euros).
Last year's record arms sales helped mask systemic troubles in Russia's defence industry that have pushed even the Russian military to seek hardware abroad in its drive to overhaul outdated weaponry.
"Russia needs the Indian money like it needs air to accelerate the production of fighter jets for its own military," said Ruslan Pukhov, head of Moscow-based Centre for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies ( CAST).
"It's not only good but revolutionary news." The deal is the biggest ever for India -- one of Russia's top three arms buyers -- and crowned two years of growing defence bookings for Russia that will ensure a steady revenue in the coming years.
But Russia has struggled to innovate technologies to meet the needs of modern warfare and is relying excessively on a few high-performing refurbished Soviet-era models, which form the bulk of its arms sales.
President Dmitry Medvedev lashed out at the "poor" state of the industry last month, as the defence ministry announced it was tripling its procurements budget over the next decade, bucking global trends.
Defence Minister Anatoly Serdyukov stressed Russia would not hesitate to spend the allotted 19 trillion rubles (USD 613 billion) on imported arms where Russian makes "did not meet the required standards."
"Our producers want to issue outdated models, but we don't want to buy them," Serdyukov told the weekly Russian Newsweek.
The world's second-largest arms supplier has been in talks with France to buy its Mistral-class warships in what would be its first ever purchase of hardware from a NATO member.
The planned procurements are part of a massive military reform that gained speed after Russia's 2008 war with Georgia showed the need to drop its Cold War-style structure to ready for modern-day, irregular warfare.
"Overall the situation in the defence industry is very negative and not consistent: It needs to be diversified," military expert Konstantin Makienko said.
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MOSCOW: Russia's ailing defence industry has received one of its biggest boosts in years with a huge fighter jet deal with India, but much of the sector remains stuck in a Soviet-era time warp, analysts said.
India announced Wednesday it planned to buy up to 300 fifth-generation stealth fighters that would be jointly developed with Russia in a deal that may be worth up to USD 30 billion (22 billion euros).
Last year's record arms sales helped mask systemic troubles in Russia's defence industry that have pushed even the Russian military to seek hardware abroad in its drive to overhaul outdated weaponry.
"Russia needs the Indian money like it needs air to accelerate the production of fighter jets for its own military," said Ruslan Pukhov, head of Moscow-based Centre for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies ( CAST).
"It's not only good but revolutionary news." The deal is the biggest ever for India -- one of Russia's top three arms buyers -- and crowned two years of growing defence bookings for Russia that will ensure a steady revenue in the coming years.
But Russia has struggled to innovate technologies to meet the needs of modern warfare and is relying excessively on a few high-performing refurbished Soviet-era models, which form the bulk of its arms sales.
President Dmitry Medvedev lashed out at the "poor" state of the industry last month, as the defence ministry announced it was tripling its procurements budget over the next decade, bucking global trends.
Defence Minister Anatoly Serdyukov stressed Russia would not hesitate to spend the allotted 19 trillion rubles (USD 613 billion) on imported arms where Russian makes "did not meet the required standards."
"Our producers want to issue outdated models, but we don't want to buy them," Serdyukov told the weekly Russian Newsweek.
The world's second-largest arms supplier has been in talks with France to buy its Mistral-class warships in what would be its first ever purchase of hardware from a NATO member.
The planned procurements are part of a massive military reform that gained speed after Russia's 2008 war with Georgia showed the need to drop its Cold War-style structure to ready for modern-day, irregular warfare.
"Overall the situation in the defence industry is very negative and not consistent: It needs to be diversified," military expert Konstantin Makienko said.
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Indo-Russian Defence Trade between 2002-2013 Estimated at USD $25 billion
Leading Russian think tank Center for Analysis of World Arms Trade (CAWAT) published in its Yearbook 2010 the estimates for Russian-Indian Defence trade for the periods 2002-2009 and 2010-2013. CAWAT also labels Russia as India's top defence partner in this time period -- as reported by RIA Novosti.
Listed below are the highlights of this report:
* 2002-2009 - Russia delivered weaponry worth an estimated $9.87 billion to India, which was nearly 60 percent of the Indian arms imports [$16.47 billion]
* 2010-2013 - Russia will remain India's top arms supplier with estimated deliveries worth $15.26 billion which is roughly 44.7 percent of the Indian arms imports ($34.1 billion)
* Existing Russian-Indian military cooperation program through 2010 features up to 200 projects worth about $18 billion. Current arms exports contracts include the delivery of the Admiral Gorshkov aircraft carrier with at least 16 MiG-29K Fulcrum-D carrier fighters, the Smerch MLRS, and licensed production of T-90 tanks in India.
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Leading Russian think tank Center for Analysis of World Arms Trade (CAWAT) published in its Yearbook 2010 the estimates for Russian-Indian Defence trade for the periods 2002-2009 and 2010-2013. CAWAT also labels Russia as India's top defence partner in this time period -- as reported by RIA Novosti.
Listed below are the highlights of this report:
* 2002-2009 - Russia delivered weaponry worth an estimated $9.87 billion to India, which was nearly 60 percent of the Indian arms imports [$16.47 billion]
* 2010-2013 - Russia will remain India's top arms supplier with estimated deliveries worth $15.26 billion which is roughly 44.7 percent of the Indian arms imports ($34.1 billion)
* Existing Russian-Indian military cooperation program through 2010 features up to 200 projects worth about $18 billion. Current arms exports contracts include the delivery of the Admiral Gorshkov aircraft carrier with at least 16 MiG-29K Fulcrum-D carrier fighters, the Smerch MLRS, and licensed production of T-90 tanks in India.
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Better relations with Russia
Emerging global challenges as the catalyst
by Harsh V. Pant
A few days back India and Russia finalised joint fifth generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) and multirole transport aircraft (MTA) projects to be completed over the next decade as part of which India will acquire about 250-300 FGFAs and 45 MTAs. The Indian Defence Minister underlined that these would be the flagship Indo-Russian joint projects as the joint development of Brahmos cruise missiles has been a positive experiment that would serve as a model for FGFA and MTA projects. India also raised the issue of inordinate delays in the delivery of Russian defence systems, resulting in considerable cost escalation.
The delivery of the aircraft carrier, Admiral Gorshkov, has now been finalised for 2012-13 after India agreed to pay Russia $2.34 billion earlier this year as opposed to the original price of $974 million agreed to in 2004. India was supposed to get Akula-II nuclear-powered submarine last year but now its delivery has been postponed to March next year.
Despite this, the two sides are intent on having a strong defence partnership. Russian President Dmitry Medvedev will be in India in December and the deal for joint development of FGFA will be signed during his visit. The Russian Chief of Defence Forces will be in India followed by the visit of the Russian Navy Chief in January next year. The two armies will be holding a joint counter-terrorism exercise later this month in India and it will be followed by another one in Russia next year.
There are very few examples of a relationship between two countries that has been as stable as the one between India and Russia. Despite the momentous changes in the international environment after the end of the Cold War, there remains a continued convergence of interests that makes it advantageous for both India and Russia to maintain close ties. Barring a fleeting hiccup during Boris Yeltsin's term as Russia's President, New Delhi and Moscow have been extraordinarily successful in nurturing a friction-free relationship that harks back to the Soviet era.
After the Cold War, both India and Russia struggled for several years to define their relations with other major players on the global stage, where the rules of international politics were in a state of flux and where the terms of the economic interaction between nations were being reset. As India rose in the global inter-state hierarchy, many in this country continued to rely on Russia for railing against the "unipolar world order". The most visible manifestation of this tendency was an attempt to create a Russia-China-India "strategic triangle". The proposal for a Moscow-Beijing-Delhi strategic triangle had originally come from former Russian Prime Minister Yevgeny Primakov during his visit to India in 1998, arguing that such an arrangement would be a force for greater regional and international stability. But as every state in the triangle needed the US to further its own interests, this project could not move beyond platitudinous rhetoric.
And now with the US in relative decline and China emerging its most likely challenger, Russia and India are struggling with the implications of a possible Chinese hegemony over the Asian strategic landscape. It is this geopolitical imperative that is forcing Delhi and Moscow to ramp up their partnership. While this was not discussed in the open, this is the hidden subtext behind the rapidity with which the two countries are trying to revise their relationship. The rise of China is the new reality that India and Russia are trying to come to grips with, and this will shape the contours of their ties in the future.
Defence, of course, remains central to Indo-Russian relations. Not only is Russia the biggest supplier of defence products to India, but the India-Russia defence relationship also encompasses a wide range of activity that includes joint research, design, development, and co-production. India is now locally producing several Russian defence systems, including the Brahmos supersonic missile, the T-90 tank and Sukhoi fighter aircraft. Russia has agreed to further expand defence supplies ties with India, both in content and range, and has also decided to give its nod to cooperation in sophisticated spheres of technology about which the US and other Western nations seem reticent. During Putin's trip to New Delhi earlier this year, significant defence deals were signed that included a new contract for refitting the Gorshkov aircraft carrier; a $1.2 billion deal to procure 29 additional MiG 29 K naval fighter aircraft; and an agreement for an additional 40 Su MKI fighters for the Indian Air Force.
The bilateral defence relationship has indeed come under pressure as India has adjusted to the changing nature of modern warfare and shifted its defence priorities to the purchase of smart weaponry, which Russia is ill-equipped to provide. Already, India's increasing defence ties with Israel and the gradual opening of the U.S. arms market for India has made Russia relatively less exciting. The Indian military has been an critical of over-reliance on Russia for defence acquisition which was reflected in the Indian Naval Chief's view that there should be re-think on India's ties with Russia in the light of the Russian demand of $1.2 billion more for Admiral Gorshkov.
Though there is disquiet among the Indian armed forces about the Russian behaviour over Admiral Gorshkov, it is clear that Russia is the only country that is willing to share defence technology of strategic nature with India, including aircraft carriers and nuclear submarine. It is equally significant that Russia is probably the only major global power that has not sold defence technology to Pakistan. Civilian nuclear energy cooperation has also gathered momentum with a comprehensive nuclear deal between India and Russia and a pact to build two power plans in Tamil Nadu. Russia is already constructing four nuclear reactors in India, and this pact will lead to more than a dozen Russian nuclear power plants in India.
The rapidly deteriorating security situation in Afghanistan has been instrumental is bringing India and Russia closer to each others in recent years. Moscow's recent assertion that the security situation in Afghanistan "does impact the security" of India and Russia underscores the convergence of views between the two on the evolving situation in Afghanistan. As a consequence, India and Russia have stepped up cooperation on Afghanistan. This comes at a time when Indian disenchantment with the West on Af-Pak is at an all-time high and it is looking at alternative policy options to secure its interests. India-Russia partnership is only likely to get stronger in the light of the challenges that the two face in their vicinity.
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2010/20101027/edit.htm#4
Emerging global challenges as the catalyst
by Harsh V. Pant
A few days back India and Russia finalised joint fifth generation fighter aircraft (FGFA) and multirole transport aircraft (MTA) projects to be completed over the next decade as part of which India will acquire about 250-300 FGFAs and 45 MTAs. The Indian Defence Minister underlined that these would be the flagship Indo-Russian joint projects as the joint development of Brahmos cruise missiles has been a positive experiment that would serve as a model for FGFA and MTA projects. India also raised the issue of inordinate delays in the delivery of Russian defence systems, resulting in considerable cost escalation.
The delivery of the aircraft carrier, Admiral Gorshkov, has now been finalised for 2012-13 after India agreed to pay Russia $2.34 billion earlier this year as opposed to the original price of $974 million agreed to in 2004. India was supposed to get Akula-II nuclear-powered submarine last year but now its delivery has been postponed to March next year.
Despite this, the two sides are intent on having a strong defence partnership. Russian President Dmitry Medvedev will be in India in December and the deal for joint development of FGFA will be signed during his visit. The Russian Chief of Defence Forces will be in India followed by the visit of the Russian Navy Chief in January next year. The two armies will be holding a joint counter-terrorism exercise later this month in India and it will be followed by another one in Russia next year.
There are very few examples of a relationship between two countries that has been as stable as the one between India and Russia. Despite the momentous changes in the international environment after the end of the Cold War, there remains a continued convergence of interests that makes it advantageous for both India and Russia to maintain close ties. Barring a fleeting hiccup during Boris Yeltsin's term as Russia's President, New Delhi and Moscow have been extraordinarily successful in nurturing a friction-free relationship that harks back to the Soviet era.
After the Cold War, both India and Russia struggled for several years to define their relations with other major players on the global stage, where the rules of international politics were in a state of flux and where the terms of the economic interaction between nations were being reset. As India rose in the global inter-state hierarchy, many in this country continued to rely on Russia for railing against the "unipolar world order". The most visible manifestation of this tendency was an attempt to create a Russia-China-India "strategic triangle". The proposal for a Moscow-Beijing-Delhi strategic triangle had originally come from former Russian Prime Minister Yevgeny Primakov during his visit to India in 1998, arguing that such an arrangement would be a force for greater regional and international stability. But as every state in the triangle needed the US to further its own interests, this project could not move beyond platitudinous rhetoric.
And now with the US in relative decline and China emerging its most likely challenger, Russia and India are struggling with the implications of a possible Chinese hegemony over the Asian strategic landscape. It is this geopolitical imperative that is forcing Delhi and Moscow to ramp up their partnership. While this was not discussed in the open, this is the hidden subtext behind the rapidity with which the two countries are trying to revise their relationship. The rise of China is the new reality that India and Russia are trying to come to grips with, and this will shape the contours of their ties in the future.
Defence, of course, remains central to Indo-Russian relations. Not only is Russia the biggest supplier of defence products to India, but the India-Russia defence relationship also encompasses a wide range of activity that includes joint research, design, development, and co-production. India is now locally producing several Russian defence systems, including the Brahmos supersonic missile, the T-90 tank and Sukhoi fighter aircraft. Russia has agreed to further expand defence supplies ties with India, both in content and range, and has also decided to give its nod to cooperation in sophisticated spheres of technology about which the US and other Western nations seem reticent. During Putin's trip to New Delhi earlier this year, significant defence deals were signed that included a new contract for refitting the Gorshkov aircraft carrier; a $1.2 billion deal to procure 29 additional MiG 29 K naval fighter aircraft; and an agreement for an additional 40 Su MKI fighters for the Indian Air Force.
The bilateral defence relationship has indeed come under pressure as India has adjusted to the changing nature of modern warfare and shifted its defence priorities to the purchase of smart weaponry, which Russia is ill-equipped to provide. Already, India's increasing defence ties with Israel and the gradual opening of the U.S. arms market for India has made Russia relatively less exciting. The Indian military has been an critical of over-reliance on Russia for defence acquisition which was reflected in the Indian Naval Chief's view that there should be re-think on India's ties with Russia in the light of the Russian demand of $1.2 billion more for Admiral Gorshkov.
Though there is disquiet among the Indian armed forces about the Russian behaviour over Admiral Gorshkov, it is clear that Russia is the only country that is willing to share defence technology of strategic nature with India, including aircraft carriers and nuclear submarine. It is equally significant that Russia is probably the only major global power that has not sold defence technology to Pakistan. Civilian nuclear energy cooperation has also gathered momentum with a comprehensive nuclear deal between India and Russia and a pact to build two power plans in Tamil Nadu. Russia is already constructing four nuclear reactors in India, and this pact will lead to more than a dozen Russian nuclear power plants in India.
The rapidly deteriorating security situation in Afghanistan has been instrumental is bringing India and Russia closer to each others in recent years. Moscow's recent assertion that the security situation in Afghanistan "does impact the security" of India and Russia underscores the convergence of views between the two on the evolving situation in Afghanistan. As a consequence, India and Russia have stepped up cooperation on Afghanistan. This comes at a time when Indian disenchantment with the West on Af-Pak is at an all-time high and it is looking at alternative policy options to secure its interests. India-Russia partnership is only likely to get stronger in the light of the challenges that the two face in their vicinity.
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2010/20101027/edit.htm#4
Close Putin ally appointed co-chair Of India commission
Deputy Premier Sergei Ivanov, a close ally of Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, has been appointed the co-chairman of an Indo-Russian intergovernmental commission which steers bilateral trade, economic and scientific cooperation.
Ivanov will replace Sergei Sobyanin, who was appointed mayor of Moscow last month.
The Indo-Russian Intergovernmental commission (IRIGC), is the nodal body for steering bilateral trade, economic, scientific, technological and cultural cooperation. From the Indian side it is co-chaired by External Affairs Minister S M Krishna.
In 2001-2007 in his capacity as the Defence Minister Ivanov had been closely interacting with India as co-chair of Inter-governmental Military-Technical Cooperation Commission.
In Putin's cabinet Ivanov looks after space, including GLONASS global positioning system, hi-tech and defence industries.His appointment signals Russia's willingness to focus on cooperation with India in hi-tech sectors for joint development of cutting-edge technologies, sources said.
He will be going to India later this month to prepare economic agenda of President Dmitry Medvedev's summit talks with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh next month, at which cooperation in space, energy, including civil nuclear are likely to be discussed in details.
India-Russia Joint Economic Commission meets in Delhi
The 16th meeting of the India-Russia Inter-Governmental Commission on Trade, Economic, Scientific, Technological and Cultural Cooperation and discussed ways of enhancing cooperation between the two countries in various areas.
The discussions will contribute to the preparations for the proposed visit of Russian President Dmitry Medvedev to India next month for the Indo-Russian Annual Summit, an official statement issued after today's talks said.
The Commission, which guides the conduct of economic cooperation between the two countries, is co-chaired by External Affairs Minister S M Krishna and Russian Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov.
The Commission was set up in May, 1992 and had held its first meeting in Moscow in September, 1994.
Mr Ivanov, who has served as Defence Minister of Russia in the past, is currently responsible for areas such as industrial development, the defence industry complex, transport and communication, science and innovation, border issues, military reserves, and export control.
The statement said the meeting reviewed the entire spectrum of India-Russia trade and economic, scientific, technological and cultural cooperation was reviewed during the meeting.
Both sides expressed satisfaction at the recent increase in bilateral trade and investments while recognizing that the level of economic engagement remained below its potential give the size of the two economies.
The statement said that, in this context, both sides identified concrete steps to further develop economic relations in priority areas of cooperation.
During his stay here, Mr Ivanov was also due to call on Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and meet other Indian leaders.
According to the statement, the two sides resolved to work in tandem to pro-actively follow up on today's discussions with a few to finalising some key agreements in the economic sphere to be signed during Mr Medvedev's visit.
The meeting recognised the importance of establishing direct business-to-business contacts in achieving a quantum leap in bilateral trade and investment levels and took note of the steps already taken in this direction. The two sides agreed to make sustained and enhanced efforts to achieve the bilateral trade turnover target of $ 20 billion by 2015.
The Commission called upon relevant Working Groups and agencies on both sides to identify new and innovative joint projects in priority areas of cooperation in order to increase the level of bilateral economic engagement and to speedily achieve the economic targets set by the two countries.
The Commission agreed that, with its proven competence in the fields of IT, financial services, pharmaceuticals and hydrocarbon processing, India could be a strong and reliable partner in Russia's pursuit of modernization of its economy. The Commission asked for the preparation of a forward-looking bilateral programme on cooperation in the areas of modernization and innovation.
The meeting noted the strong interest of Indian companies in participating in the privatisation programme of Russia and called for organizing B2B interactions in this regard inter alia within the framework of India-Russia Forum on Trade & Investment and CEOs Council.
The meeting welcomed the signing of the Inter-Governmental Agreement on Atomic Energy Cooperation for Peaceful Purposes and the Roadmap for Serial Construction of Russian-designed Nuclear Power Plants in India, during the March 2010 visit of Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin to India.
The Commission also agreed on the need to enhance bilateral cooperation in the hydrocarbons sector and called for tangible steps to move forward on new project proposals.
The two sides also called for sustaining the cooperation between the two countries in the area of trade in rough diamonds.
The meeting also discussed ways of stepping up cooperation in agriculture, pharmaceuticals, information technology, fertilisers, chemicals, mining, metallurgy, banking and finance, science and technology, and tourism and culture.
The 16th meeting of the India-Russia Inter-Governmental Commission on Trade, Economic, Scientific, Technological and Cultural Cooperation and discussed ways of enhancing cooperation between the two countries in various areas.
The discussions will contribute to the preparations for the proposed visit of Russian President Dmitry Medvedev to India next month for the Indo-Russian Annual Summit, an official statement issued after today's talks said.
The Commission, which guides the conduct of economic cooperation between the two countries, is co-chaired by External Affairs Minister S M Krishna and Russian Deputy Prime Minister Sergei Ivanov.
The Commission was set up in May, 1992 and had held its first meeting in Moscow in September, 1994.
Mr Ivanov, who has served as Defence Minister of Russia in the past, is currently responsible for areas such as industrial development, the defence industry complex, transport and communication, science and innovation, border issues, military reserves, and export control.
The statement said the meeting reviewed the entire spectrum of India-Russia trade and economic, scientific, technological and cultural cooperation was reviewed during the meeting.
Both sides expressed satisfaction at the recent increase in bilateral trade and investments while recognizing that the level of economic engagement remained below its potential give the size of the two economies.
The statement said that, in this context, both sides identified concrete steps to further develop economic relations in priority areas of cooperation.
During his stay here, Mr Ivanov was also due to call on Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and meet other Indian leaders.
According to the statement, the two sides resolved to work in tandem to pro-actively follow up on today's discussions with a few to finalising some key agreements in the economic sphere to be signed during Mr Medvedev's visit.
The meeting recognised the importance of establishing direct business-to-business contacts in achieving a quantum leap in bilateral trade and investment levels and took note of the steps already taken in this direction. The two sides agreed to make sustained and enhanced efforts to achieve the bilateral trade turnover target of $ 20 billion by 2015.
The Commission called upon relevant Working Groups and agencies on both sides to identify new and innovative joint projects in priority areas of cooperation in order to increase the level of bilateral economic engagement and to speedily achieve the economic targets set by the two countries.
The Commission agreed that, with its proven competence in the fields of IT, financial services, pharmaceuticals and hydrocarbon processing, India could be a strong and reliable partner in Russia's pursuit of modernization of its economy. The Commission asked for the preparation of a forward-looking bilateral programme on cooperation in the areas of modernization and innovation.
The meeting noted the strong interest of Indian companies in participating in the privatisation programme of Russia and called for organizing B2B interactions in this regard inter alia within the framework of India-Russia Forum on Trade & Investment and CEOs Council.
The meeting welcomed the signing of the Inter-Governmental Agreement on Atomic Energy Cooperation for Peaceful Purposes and the Roadmap for Serial Construction of Russian-designed Nuclear Power Plants in India, during the March 2010 visit of Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin to India.
The Commission also agreed on the need to enhance bilateral cooperation in the hydrocarbons sector and called for tangible steps to move forward on new project proposals.
The two sides also called for sustaining the cooperation between the two countries in the area of trade in rough diamonds.
The meeting also discussed ways of stepping up cooperation in agriculture, pharmaceuticals, information technology, fertilisers, chemicals, mining, metallurgy, banking and finance, science and technology, and tourism and culture.
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Russia's state nuclear corporation Rosatom has offered Indian companies cooperation in development of uranium deposits in Russia and other countries, Rosatom spokesman Sergei Novikov said on Sunday.
Novikov referred to corporation's Director General Sergei Kirienko who has recently participated in a meeting of the Russian-Indian intergovernmental commission for trade and economic cooperation and talks with the Uranium Corporation of India (UCIL).
"We have offered Indians a role in uranium extraction projects in Russia and in third counties. Rosatom should always retain control over the projects, partners may receive up to 49% of projects inside Russia," Novikov said.
In early April RIA Novosti announced that Russia and India could create a joint venture to prospect and mine uranium.
Kirienko then offered Indian companies a role in Elkon mine in Yakutia. He added the two countries would cooperate in building nuclear fuel manufacturing facilities both in Russia and India.
Russia and India are going thru a very delicate dance and that makes it really difficult for India.
Based on what I can see - Indian defense policy makers are doing the right thing by not committing to buy technology from Russia when they can get better stuff elsewhere, but buying from Russia where the Russians are still competitive like fighter aircraft, etc.
A lot of pro-Russian Indians cant seem to grasp this concept - India has to balance their historic friendship with Russia coupled with their real-time needs.
The Russians have slowly fallen behind in many technologies, but they have never embargoed India unlike Western countries and Japan.
This means that India will always try to buy Russian if the Russian can compete in term of technology, reliability, prices and delivery schedules. The problem is that the Russians can no longer compete in terms of manufacturing quality, reliabilty, price and delivery, even when their technology is on par with the west.
So India is not going to buy nuclear reactors from Russia when they can get much more state of the art and safer stuff from the French, Japan and US.
But they may buy fighter aircraft and other stuff.
The point is this - Its is not India's fault that the Russians are losing out in the Indian defense market despite offering all kinds of joint development schemes.
It is the Russian inability to deliver products on schedule and on negotiated prices that is causing the problem.
Why should India be saddled with out-of-date Russian technology when it can get better stuff from elsewhere ?
Based on what I can see - Indian defense policy makers are doing the right thing by not committing to buy technology from Russia when they can get better stuff elsewhere, but buying from Russia where the Russians are still competitive like fighter aircraft, etc.
A lot of pro-Russian Indians cant seem to grasp this concept - India has to balance their historic friendship with Russia coupled with their real-time needs.
The Russians have slowly fallen behind in many technologies, but they have never embargoed India unlike Western countries and Japan.
This means that India will always try to buy Russian if the Russian can compete in term of technology, reliability, prices and delivery schedules. The problem is that the Russians can no longer compete in terms of manufacturing quality, reliabilty, price and delivery, even when their technology is on par with the west.
So India is not going to buy nuclear reactors from Russia when they can get much more state of the art and safer stuff from the French, Japan and US.
But they may buy fighter aircraft and other stuff.
The point is this - Its is not India's fault that the Russians are losing out in the Indian defense market despite offering all kinds of joint development schemes.
It is the Russian inability to deliver products on schedule and on negotiated prices that is causing the problem.
Why should India be saddled with out-of-date Russian technology when it can get better stuff from elsewhere ?
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India-Russia to ink biggest defence deal ever: FGFA
http://www.tehelka.com/story_main48.asp?filename=Ws011210INDIA_RUSSIA.asp
India and Russia will ink their biggest ever defence deal during the upcoming India visit of Russian President Dmitry Medvedev to jointly produce the fifth generation fighter aircraft (FGFA). This move will transform their traditional consumer-supplier relationship into that of co-producers.
The advanced stealth aircraft is expected to compete the US F-22 Raptor, presently the world's only fifth generation fighter, and the under-development F-35 Lightning-II, at an estimated cost of US $30 billion (Rs 1,37,000 crore).
"The draft was made during the Russian defence minister's visit in October. The final details of the deal have already been worked out and the file has gone to the finance ministry for the final approval," said a highly-placed official at the Ministry of Defence (MoD), on condition of anonymity as he is not authorised to speak on the matter.
As per US classifications, aircrafts in service from 1980 to 2010, or based on the designs of the 70s are categorised as 4th generation aircrafts. However, 5th generation aircrafts are more advanced with better stealth capabilities and higher speed potential in comparison to the former. The FGFA is being developed under Sukhoi's PAK FA project. The Indian aerospace major Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) will be its Indian partner.
According to an agreement signed in October 2007, India joined Russia in Sukhoi's FGFA programme, and the two countries will complete all procedures, finalising a commercial contract for the aircraft deal during Medvedev's visit starting December 21. Apart from developing the FGFA, the two countries will also develop the Multirole Transport Aircraft together, of which the India is expected to order 45 for the Indian Air Force (IAF).
According to IAF officials, the 30-tonne advanced FGFA, priced around $100 million, will have very advanced avionics, stealth to increase survivability and enhanced lethality. Expected to enter service in 2017, the FGFA's developing cost will be shared between India and Russia. The Indian side so far has put in $250 million.
The fighter's first prototype has already made as many as 36 test flights and the second prototype is expected to be flying soon. It is expected to take 8-10 years before entering the testing phase. During this period India will be responsible for developing software for on-board computer systems, aircraft self-defence systems, and a host of other important components.
While India is developing its own two seater version of the FGFA, Russia's version is single seater jet. The IAF alone plans to acquire around 300 of the combat jets and the option to acquire more has been kept open.
http://www.tehelka.com/story_main48.asp?filename=Ws011210INDIA_RUSSIA.asp
India and Russia will ink their biggest ever defence deal during the upcoming India visit of Russian President Dmitry Medvedev to jointly produce the fifth generation fighter aircraft (FGFA). This move will transform their traditional consumer-supplier relationship into that of co-producers.
The advanced stealth aircraft is expected to compete the US F-22 Raptor, presently the world's only fifth generation fighter, and the under-development F-35 Lightning-II, at an estimated cost of US $30 billion (Rs 1,37,000 crore).
"The draft was made during the Russian defence minister's visit in October. The final details of the deal have already been worked out and the file has gone to the finance ministry for the final approval," said a highly-placed official at the Ministry of Defence (MoD), on condition of anonymity as he is not authorised to speak on the matter.
As per US classifications, aircrafts in service from 1980 to 2010, or based on the designs of the 70s are categorised as 4th generation aircrafts. However, 5th generation aircrafts are more advanced with better stealth capabilities and higher speed potential in comparison to the former. The FGFA is being developed under Sukhoi's PAK FA project. The Indian aerospace major Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) will be its Indian partner.
According to an agreement signed in October 2007, India joined Russia in Sukhoi's FGFA programme, and the two countries will complete all procedures, finalising a commercial contract for the aircraft deal during Medvedev's visit starting December 21. Apart from developing the FGFA, the two countries will also develop the Multirole Transport Aircraft together, of which the India is expected to order 45 for the Indian Air Force (IAF).
According to IAF officials, the 30-tonne advanced FGFA, priced around $100 million, will have very advanced avionics, stealth to increase survivability and enhanced lethality. Expected to enter service in 2017, the FGFA's developing cost will be shared between India and Russia. The Indian side so far has put in $250 million.
The fighter's first prototype has already made as many as 36 test flights and the second prototype is expected to be flying soon. It is expected to take 8-10 years before entering the testing phase. During this period India will be responsible for developing software for on-board computer systems, aircraft self-defence systems, and a host of other important components.
While India is developing its own two seater version of the FGFA, Russia's version is single seater jet. The IAF alone plans to acquire around 300 of the combat jets and the option to acquire more has been kept open.
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The chief of the Russian General Staff, Army Gen. Nikolai Makarov, will visit India on December 7-9 to discuss bilateral military cooperation, the Russian Defense Ministry said on Tuesday.
Makarov will meet with his Indian counterpart Air Chief Marshal Pradeep Vasant Naik and other top military commanders.
The sides will focus, in particular, on the preparation for the Indra 2011 joint military drills.
During his stay in India, Makarov will also visit the BrahMos Aerospace Ltd., a Russian-Indian joint venture manufacturing supersonic cruise missiles, and the headquarters of the 50th independent parachute brigade, the first Indian airborne unit formed in 1941.
The Indian and Russian military have conducted joint INDRA exercises since 2003.
The latest drills were held in October this year in the Indian Himalayas.
Russia sent more than 200 troops from its 34th mountain brigade, based in the North Caucasus, to join the Indian troops in the exercises.
