INS Vikrant Aircraft Carrier (IAC)

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IAC Vikrant latest image ( November 2018, Image: Manu Manohar)

June 2018

Update (17-06-2018): Work on the main mast is still going on, sensor and flight equipment to be installed within the next few weeks. Images -



IAC-1 Vikrant, June-2018. There is definitely some progress on the main mast
(Image: Cochin Now)


Port view, 11 June 2018

Better view of carrier's island 11 June 2018


Aft view, notice gas turbine exhaust vents (May 2018)


Vikrant as seen from a bridge nearby (May 2018)

IAC-1 Vikrant along with ONGC Sagar Bhusan drill-ship. 5 died in an explosion on the ONGC ship (May 2018)

IAC Vikrant Front, notice EL/M-2248 MF-STAR mount (May 2018)

INS Vikramaditya entering Cochin Shipyard for routine maintenance: Indian Navy will be without an operational carrier for the better part of the year.



INS Vikramaditya being tugged into port

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Latest images from GEarth = Dated 12 November - yea even latest images are tad old. Development is tardy on P17, I hope they can cut some slack.

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In the first image the lower ship is P17a.
Tardy progress overall. Indian shipbuilders sucks in planning and execution - Japan delivered its destroyer in 2 years 2 frigging years for a destroyer ours is 10y. Visakhapatnam has already consumed 5y since launch.

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IAC images from GEarth dated 23 Feb. Nothing much to gawk at.

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You compare a Private Enterprise in Japan that operates for Profit to a Govt Owned PSU in India that operates to provide continuing employment to its workforce. You have the answer to your doubts
Aisa lag raha hai pradarsani ke liye rakha gaya yai.
Anybody have any idea when this carrier will be in FULL OPERATION.
When i was in collage, one of my friends did Vocational Training at Garden Reach Shipbuilders & Engineers Ltd. (GRSE) in 2016. He told me a Kamorta class Corvette (INS Kavaratti ...to be completed by May 2019) was just sitting idle for months. Construction was temporarily halted because some new technological component to be installed wasn't ready yet & they'd have to adjust to fit it.

I believe this is the case for all Indian shipyards. Japan already has all the tech. We are still developing & testing many. IAC-1 is in its third and final phase of construction at Kochi, that means installation of those shit is going on... For example:

Indian Navy gets combat management system for INS Vikrant Mar 29, 2019

Sea trials for the ship are officially expected to start by 2020. Let's see if they can meet the deadline.
 
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Happens purely because there is NO incentive given to anyone in the supply chain to be ON TIME and ON TARGET with any Deadline. Everyone takes their own sweet time and entire project can get idled for years without any visible accountability due to a single problem or missing component.

Why is it that Pvt Sector shipyards are steadily going bankrupt and closing down while PSU yards continue with their chalta hai business as usual yet still receive orders? Totally broken system
 

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Happens purely because there is NO incentive given to anyone in the supply chain to be ON TIME and ON TARGET with any Deadline. Everyone takes their own sweet time and entire project can get idled for years without any visible accountability due to a single problem or missing component.

Why is it that Pvt Sector shipyards are steadily going bankrupt and closing down while PSU yards continue with their chalta hai business as usual yet still receive orders? Totally broken system
Agreed.
Now that we're learning to build proper ships, we also need to learn to build shops properly...
 
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Happens purely because there is NO incentive given to anyone in the supply chain to be ON TIME and ON TARGET with any Deadline. Everyone takes their own sweet time and entire project can get idled for years without any visible accountability due to a single problem or missing component.

Why is it that Pvt Sector shipyards are steadily going bankrupt and closing down while PSU yards continue with their chalta hai business as usual yet still receive orders? Totally broken system
Private shipyards don't have any technology. They just make simple ship hulls and other mechanical items. The technology is either imported or bought from PSU. Simply saying private shipyards as better shows undue bias.

Private shipyards never invent anything as R&D is very expensive and time consuming which no profit making entity can afford. Everywhere in the world, it is the govt funds that do R&D due to this reason. In USA, government funds private companies to do R&D whereas in Russia, China, France, UK etc, the govt directly does R&D. Companies like Rolls Royce of UK, Naval group of France, Dassault of France etc are government owned, FYI.
 

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Private shipyards don't have any technology. They just make simple ship hulls and other mechanical items. The technology is either imported or bought from PSU. Simply saying private shipyards as better shows undue bias.

Private shipyards never invent anything as R&D is very expensive and time consuming which no profit making entity can afford. Everywhere in the world, it is the govt funds that do R&D due to this reason. In USA, government funds private companies to do R&D whereas in Russia, China, France, UK etc, the govt directly does R&D. Companies like Rolls Royce of UK, Naval group of France, Dassault of France etc are government owned, FYI.
Agreed and I never made any assertion regarding the technology. The difference is that here the entire chain from R&D to Shipyard has historically been an assortment of PSU's all of which operate with the same inefficient and unaccountable system of often conflicting methodologies.

If a Govt funds R&D for a Pvt Corp...there are always accountability strings attached. Companies face penalties for delays, non-performance. Companies are also accountable to their own share / stock holders to perform in a financially responsible manner. This is in sharp contrast with what happens with PSU organisations here resulting in the visible difference in work culture. I don't argue that the output is better or worse...many of our PSU made products in defense are good...BUT nobody would argue with the fact that the process that makes them also results in huge wastage of resources and inordinate delays for which there is basically no control. This has to change...whether the answer is to shift to Pvt Corp or simply structural reforms of the PSUs...but something has to be done otherwise we will get left behind.

BTW your quoted examples of Govt owned corps are wrong....RR and Dassault are distinctly not Govt owned although their respective govts do have small stakes in them...RR is public listed while Dassault is still majority owned and controlled by the Dassault family. Naval Group is however 100% govt owned and always has been
 

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Naval group of France, Dassault of France etc are government owned, FYI.
Naval Group is majority owned by the state, but Dassault is not. The state is trying to sell its stake in Naval Group for a long time. The problem is making sure we maintain sovereignty if the buyers try moving it out of the country.

uoftotaku said:
Naval Group is however 100% govt owned and always has been
Actually it is over a third owned by Thales.
 

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But we don't have fighters.......
Will operate mig29.......
Mig-29K for two aircraft carriers have been bought already.
Seems INS Vikrant is ready. Trials commence once ship is ready. Acceptance period can be reduced too if ops need arises. It is big news.
 

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INS Vikrant is undergoing outfitting at Kochi shipyard Ltd. Its harbour acceptance trials are in progress & sea acceptance trial will commence in the later half of this year; It will be delivered to Navy by 2021.

Call me a pessimist here....but here's my prediction....We wont hear about INS Vikrant anymore throughout the year. Next year in 2020 it will be casually announced that it will enter Sea trials next year(2021) and will be commissioned in 2023.
 

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