India's own AESA Radars....dream to reality

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Aesa Radars technology has been lilited to some few nations only ..its high time now that India ASAP develop the technology and start making more bertter fighters , radars , naval ships ...

though DRDO has started the process but what time it will take who knows..

DRDO is planning to fit AESA radar in Tejas mk2 once it is done Tejas would be undoubtly the best value for money fighter in its class ...
 

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tell when it's really becomes reality until then it's just dream.
 

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tell when it's really becomes reality until then it's just dream.
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DRDO has already developed several AESA radars both 3D and 4D. Indian AESAs are among the best in the world..
 

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Aesa Radars technology has been lilited to some few nations only ..its high time now that India ASAP develop the technology and start making more bertter fighters , radars , naval ships ...

though DRDO has started the process but what time it will take who knows..

DRDO is planning to fit AESA radar in Tejas mk2 once it is done Tejas would be undoubtly the best value for money fighter in its class ...
Do start a thread if you have credible ideas, articles to post.

thank you
 

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:wakeup:

DRDO has already developed several AESA radars both 3D and 4D. Indian AESAs are among the best in the world..
First ..The Thread starter post about AESA Radar that fit in Fighter Jets

Second even our Front line warships are AESA Equipped manufactured in Israel or Russia Only ..


we have something like DRDO Upgraded Swordfish only
 

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I seriously doubt it. But then if its true, Wow.

How about some references ?
sir, i searched that on wikipedia and i got this
Range Tracking Radar: The
LRTR a 3D AESA was developed
with assistance from Elta of Israel,
and is similar to Elta's proven
GreenPine long range Active Array
radar. The DRDO developed the
signal processing and software for
tracking high speed ballistic missile
targets as well as introduced more
ruggedization. The radar uses
mostly Indian designed and
manufactured components such as
its critical high power, L Band
Transmit-Receive modules plus the
other enabling technologies
necessary for active phased array
radars.The LRTR can track 200
targets and had a range of above
600 kilometres (370 mi) and can
detect Intermediate Range Ballistic
Missiles, and that India now had the
capability to manufacture these
radars on its own

but no idea about 4D radar may be kunal Biswas sir will have idea @Kunal Biswas
 
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Its high time we make a bomber that goes into the stratosphere at 25,000 km/hr #justsaying
 

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Its high time we make a bomber that goes into the stratosphere at 25,000 km/hr #justsaying
25000km/hr! Are u kidding?
An oft-cited contender for the fastest
propeller-driven aircraft is the XF-84H
Thunderscreech. This aircraft is named
in Guinness World Records, 1997, as
the fastest in this category with a
speed of 1,002 km/h (623 mph, Mach
0.83).
 

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Just adding few points to Sea Eagle`s post ..

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Airborne >


DRDO AWACS ( AESA )
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Ground >


LRDE(DRDO)-BEL's Medium Power Radar Arudhra (AESA, 4D, S-Band), said to have a range of 300 Km against fighter sized targets.

LRDE(DRDO)-BEL's Low Level Tracking Radar Arudhra (AESA, 4D, S-Band), said to have a range of 150 Km against fighter sized targets.

antenna-array design of the Ashwin AESA-based low-level 'gapfiller'radar now being developed by LRDE

DRDO has already developed several AESA radars both 3D and 4D. Indian AESAs are among the best in the world..
we have something like DRDO Upgraded Swordfish only ( Clue less ? )
How about some references ?
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With Pleasure .. :)

Kunal Biswas, please illuminate us.
 

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25000km/hr! Are u kidding?
An oft-cited contender for the fastest
propeller-driven aircraft is the XF-84H
Thunderscreech. This aircraft is named
in Guinness World Records, 1997, as
the fastest in this category with a
speed of 1,002 km/h (623 mph, Mach
0.83).
I didn't start it.
 

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Tejas AESA progress ..

DRDO >>

On asking whether the indigenously developed AESA radar could also be integrated with the indigenous light combat aircraft Tejas , Saraswat said, " The work is already on and the Tejas Mark-2 will have nothing but the AESA radar. In fact recently when I was in our lab LRDE, they showed me 1/8 size of RA which is already operational in the same frequency band delivering certain amount of power with the TR (Transmitter & Receiver) modules. The work on the development of AESA for LCA is on."

The DRDO developed AESA radar will be of same size and volume of the present radar integrated on Tejas Mark-1. Once the work starts for the Mark-2 of Tejas aircraft, the old radar will be simply replaced by the indigenous AESA radar.

"Now we can configure small as well as large AESA radar. The advantage of AESA is that as you increase the numbers of TR modules, the more power you get," said Dr, Saraswat.

It is claimed that the Indian AESA radar can be compared with the best in the world in terms of resolution, performance and electronic warfare capability. The basic element of AESA radar which are the TR modules are being produced today by Bharat Electronics and other private industries in India./QUOTE]

Indian Defence News - Indigenous AESA radars for Tejas Mark-2 : Saraswat

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HAL >>

August 19, 2013: In what would mean two separate active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar efforts in country, it has now been learnt that HAL's Strategic Electronic Research Design Centre (SLRDC) in Hyderabad is also kickstarting a programme to build an indigenous AESA radar for airborne platforms. It is already known that the DRDO's Electronics Research and Development Establishment (LRDE) has begun attempting to develop an AESA radar.

The SLRDC division's other planned products include Combined Interrogator and Transponder, Advanced radio Altimter, Software Defined Radio, Secure Datalink, Ku-Band SATCOM, Weather Radar, SSDVRS, Diital Audio Control System, Traffic Collision Avoidance System, INS/GPS and Synthetic Aperature Radar. While SLRDC has contributed avionics and certain cockpit equipment to the Advanced Light Helicopter (ALH), Su-30MKI, MiG-BIS & MiG-27, Jaguar DARIN II & III, LCA Tejas, Cheetah, Chetak, Dornier and Boeing P-8I, it is now gearing up to build avionics for new and future platforms including the LCH, LUH , HTT-40, Tejas Mk.II, FGFA, MTA , IJT and the upgraded Su-30MKI.
SP’s Exculsive - SP's Aviation
 

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DRDO has already developed several AESA radars both 3D and 4D. Indian AESAs are among the best in the world..
seriously doubt it and other thing is what is 4D radar,radar that looks or detects '4th dimension' really???
 
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seriously doubt it and other thing is what is 4D radar,radar that looks or detects '4th dimension' really???
Well I have very little knowledge about AESA radar.However what I do know is that 4D means something which has length,breadth,height and time coordinates in it.In our normal operations we use 3D system which does not have time in it,4D has time element in it.Well that is all I know about 4D.I maybe wrong as I am not 100% sure so do cross check it .
 

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IAF to deploy new radar near border areas
JAISALMER: After officially commissioning SU-30 fighter squadron at the Jodhpur air base, the Indian Air Force (IAF) has decided to deploy the Arudhra radar soon in most of the forward and strategic air force stations in Rajasthan and Gujarat region near the Pakistan border.

In accordance with a decision during the recently held commanders' conference at the headquarters of South Western Air Command (SWAC) in Gandhinagar, the first medium-power radar Arudhra was inducted at the Naliya air force station of Gujarat Sector in June 2011.

Consequently, to further enhance its air defense capabilities, IAF is inducting the indigenous radar at air bases in Rajasthan and Gujarat near the Pakistan border. The medium-power radar was developed by the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) with support from Israel.

According to defense officials, the radar is being inducted to strengthen air defense capabilities in the Saurashtara-Kutch region as part of IAF's radar upgrade and is an important component of the force's plan to achieve network-centric operations. The IAF has significantly improved its air defense capabilities by acquiring the Integrated Air Command and Control Systems and connecting all of its modern and legacy radars under one single grid.

Source said the new radar will help in extending security to many strategically and economically important installations and the nation as a whole. India has been upgrading its air defense capabilities along its frontiers with both China and Pakistan.

Sources said Arudhra is a 4D medium power radar (MPR) which can act as a sophisticated multi-mode sensor for fast changing modern battle fields. MPR uses advanced active array technology, digital processing technologies - Digital Beam Forming and Programmable Signal Processing - to meet operational requirements of air space surveillance covering 100 m to 30 km altitude. The S-band solid state active aperture radar can detect and track any airborne targets up to 100 km. The radar has a rotating phased array antenna covering 360°. It also has steering mode with electronic scanning in azimuth and elevation providing range, direction, height and Doppler velocity information of the tracked aerial targets.

Initially, eight of these indigenous radars have been inducted by the IAF and subsequently most of the forward and strategic air bases like Utarlai, Jodhpur,Jaisalmer, Phalodi ,Suratgarh and Nal (Bikaner)in Rajasthan region likely have Arudhra to meet the operational requirements.

"This radar has been developed by the Electronic & Radar Development Organisation of DRDO. It has been inducted to replace the ageing TRS-2215 and PSM-33 radars on the inventory of IAF. The radar is a state-of- art technology capable of detecting targets at ranges greater than 300 km and it is an important component in IAF plans to achieve net centric operations. The radar would strengthen air defence in the Saurashtra-Kutch region," defence spokesperson S D Goswami said.
Source : http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...ar-near-border-areas/articleshow/10204373.cms

Well I have very little knowledge about AESA radar.However what I do know is that 4D means something which has length,breadth,height and time coordinates in it.In our normal operations we use 3D system which does not have time in it,4D has time element in it.Well that is all I know about 4D.I maybe wrong as I am not 100% sure so do cross check it .
 

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media is always a problem...but I don't think someone would make such simple mistake
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Arudhra MPR Is EL/M-2084 MMR: Seeing Is Believing




The Arudhra medium-power radar (MPR) is after all the ELTA Systems-built EL/M-2084 MMR, whose full-scale replica was displayed at the Aero India 2011 expo in Bengaluru last February. The two sets of visuals above (Arudhra on top, followed by the EL/M-2084 shown in Bengaluru) clearly confirm that. Thus far, neither the DRDO nor BEL have claimed that the Arudhra is a product developed and made in India. Unlike airspace surveillance/air traffic management radars, the Arudhra-EL/M-2084 is an early warning/target engagement radar that will be employed by the IAF for providing early warning of inbound tactical ballistic missiles and cruise missiles (both air-launched and ground-launched). A total of 34 such MPRs have been contracted for thus far by the IAF (the orders were placed during the 2009 Paris Air Show) for installation in and around Jamnagar, Mumbai and the National Capital Region, to begin with. The EL/M-2084 MMR is also employed as the RAZ weapon locating radar by the IDF Ground Forces, and the Indian Army is soon expected to place orders for this land-mobile system, since the DRDO-developed and BEL-built WLR, reported to be under development since late 1999, has yet to see the light of day.

The AESA-based EL/M-2084 addresses an emerging requirement to include all land-based radar functions into one operational unit. The MPR combines a weapons locator radar and an air-defence radar to detect ballistic and cruise missiles, MBRL rockets, rounds fire by field artillery howitzers and mortars, calculates the anticipated impact and launching points, and provides target data to the relevant air-defence weapons systems. The MPR is land-mobile and scalable in order to meet different performance requirements. Scaling is performed by means of an antenna of varying physical size and the amount of transmit-receive module content. The current orders from the IAF include three different versions of the MPR.

And posted below is the official press release of the MoD's Directorate of Public Relations, which should put to rest all doubts about the origin of the Arudha MPR.

"In the background of Commanders' Conference at Headquarters South Western Air Command (SWAC), Air Chief Marshal PV Naik PVSM VSM ADC inducted the first Medium Power Radar (MPR) named ARUDHRA at Air Force Station Naliya. CAS was accompanied by Air Marshal A K Gogoi AVSM VSM, AOC-in-C South Western Air Command. The Arudhra radar is being inducted to replace the ageing (THALES-built) TRS-2215 and (BEL-built) PSM-33 radars on the inventory of IAF. The radar is state-of-the-art technology capable of detecting targets at ranges greater than 300km and it is an important component in the IAF's plans to achieve net-centric operations. The radar would strengthen air-defence in the Saurashtra-Kutch region. The Arudhra is being inducted in a signals unit which has rich historical legacy. The unit was raised in October 1966 in Jodhpur and moved to Naliya in Jun 1988. At Naliya the unit has played a pivotal role in the air-defence of Saurashtra-Kutch region. The event was attended by a large number of Air Force officers from Air Headquarters, Headquarters South Western Air Command, including the representatives of original equipment manufacturer ELTA Systems Ltd, from Israel. IAF fighters conducted a fly past brilliantly synchronised with the induction of radar by Chief of the Air Staff".
http://trishul-trident.blogspot.com/2011/06/arudhra-mpr-is-elm-2084-mmr-seeing-is.html

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in the obove TOI report, the following is mentioned...

In accordance with a decision during the recently held commanders' conference at the headquarters of South Western Air Command (SWAC) in Gandhinagar, the first medium-power radar Arudhra was inducted at the Naliya air force station of Gujarat Sector in June 2011.
actually ,I remember we read such news report by another famous Defence correspondent in that June...

PHOTOS: IAF Inducts Israel-built Medium Power Radar


 
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