India's First Manned Space Mission

[JAISWAL]

After Mars mission, India plans manned moon mission

After Mars mission, India plans manned moon mission
Headlines Today Bureau | Headlines Today | New Delhi, December 27, 2013 | UPDATED 17:48 IST

The Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) and the Ministry of Defence (MoD) have signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) for a manned moon mission, sources told Headlines Today on Friday.


The mission comes days after ISRO successfully launched Rs.450 crore Mars Orbiter Mission (MOM) in November using its Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle (PSLV-XL).

According to sources, the MoD has tasked the Indian Air Force (IAF) to identify the qualitative requirements for the crew. The Director General of Armed Forces Medical Services is to draw out the requirements.


The process will include identifying five "most suitable" men for the mission.

Former IAF officer Wing Commander Rakesh Sharma was the first Indian to travel in space in 1984.


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[cloud]

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I think no has successfully sent a Manned mission to Moon other than USA so far, so if we could do it before China or Russia, it will be a Super huge prestigious gain for ISRO like no other in its history also for India as well. But Russia is 3 step ahead and China 1 step ahead, then there are Europeans. But I believe we could easily close the gap with Chinese if GSLV is further developed and is successful. Need more money and push from Govt, instead of only ISRO taking initiative for such kind of things.

 

[nirranj]

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I think this will be a long term plan rather than a short term one. Probably they will be aiming for a 2030 timeline.

There are major milestones that needs to be crossed before directly aiming a manned moon mission.

I hope ISRO will first try to succeed in sending men to space and recovering them back. Then it will be building a Space station, Docking missions, sci experiments onboard the Space station and then to go for a manned moon mission. That will be the right way to proceed.

Also our moon mission should be to exploit moon economically rather than to just make a show statement. A permanent Indian mission on moon will be a great thing.

 

[sayareakd]

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Moon and now Mars mission has made us think big that is what has been accomplished by these two missions, all this because of ISRO.........

Before going to moon lets first go to (unmanned) moon and back, then Man space mission, space station and then moon mission.

Good Job ISRO, you have allowed my India to think and aim big..............

 

[Deccani]

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I think no has successfully sent a Manned mission to Moon other than USA so far, so if we could do it before China or Russia, it will be a Super huge prestigious gain for ISRO like no other in its history also for India as well. But Russia is 3 step ahead and China 1 step ahead, then there are Europeans. But I believe we could easily close the gap with Chinese if GSLV is further developed and is successful. Need more money and push from Govt, instead of only ISRO taking initiative for such kind of things.

Americans were the only who sent a manned mission but Americans even haven't exploited moon economically . 5 days back Chinese issued statement that they are going to sent a manned mission to moon and now even the statement has been issued from our side , the only one who are silent on all this are Russians . even country like Iran is working on sending manned mission to Moon .

 

[Yusuf]

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Iran will send a dog/ monkey/cat to the moon.

 

[Deccani]

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Iran will send a dog/ monkey/cat to the moon.

Recently the Iranians have sent monkey to the moon for the second time .

 

[JAISWAL]

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its a little bit old news but worth mentioning .... (around year- 2010)

Wanted: four 'vyomanauts' for Indian spaceflight

16:17 05 January 2010 by Anil Ananthaswamy
For similar stories, visit the Space flight Topic Guide

Not so long ago, people in space were either astronauts or cosmonauts. Then the Chinese gave us taikonauts. Now, another billion-strong nation with an ambitious space programme – India – is seeking a new breed of spacefarers: vyomanauts, according to Indian media.

The tongue-twisting term comes from the Sanskrit for sky or space (vyoma, pronounced veeohma). The closest Sanskrit word to astronaut would have been vyomagami, for something that passes in the sky. The other word for an Indian spacefarer that had been bandied about was gaganaut (gagan is also Sanskrit for sky). But "vyoma is very good", says Choudury Upender Rao, a professor of Sanskrit studies at the Jawaharlal Nehru University in New Delhi. "It's an appropriate choice."

The Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) is now in the process of choosing four vyomanauts from a pool of 200 fighter pilots, P. Madhusoodanan of the Indian Air Force told DNA, a daily newspaper, this week.

India's first crewed space mission is scheduled for 2015, designs for which were unveiled last year by Madhavan NairMovie Camera, former chairman of ISRO. The three-person vehicle will initially carry two vyomanauts into 275-kilometre low-Earth orbit. Before this flight, ISRO will launch its second moon mission in 2013.

 

[JAISWAL]

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Another Related News.... about aWeek Old News

ISRO gearing up for space capsule recovery experiment
Special Correspondent




The Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) is preparing to carry out a space capsule recovery experiment in 2014 to test some of the critical technologies for manned space missions in future.

Vikram Sarabhai Space Centre (VSSC) Director S. Ramakrishnan said here on Friday that the operation would involve the launch of a spacecraft that would later re-enter the earth's atmosphere. The capsule would be recovered from the sea off Andamans.

Fielding questions after delivering the foundation day lecture of the Kerala Academy of Sciences (KAS) here on Friday, Dr. Ramakrishnan said the operation was scheduled to take place before April 14. Efforts were on simultaneously to develop a crew vehicle and space suit for astronauts.

He said it would take 10 years for India to undertake human space flight. "Manned space missions would require more powerful launch vehicles like the GSLV Mark 3 currently under development."

Dr. Ramakrishnan said the mission readiness review of the indigenous cryogenic engine was scheduled for December 28. The GSLV 2 powered by this engine was expected to be launched on January 5.

Dr. Ramakrishnan said the feedback from the Mars Orbiter Mission would help ISRO plan bigger space missions.

Earlier, Chief Minister Oommen Chandy conferred the honorary fellowship of the Kerala Academy of Sciences on three eminent scientists, namely ISRO chairman K. Radhakrishnan, executive vice-president of Kerala State Council for Science, Technology and Environment V.N. Rajasekharan Pillai, and outstanding scientist of CSIR-NIIST A. Ajayaghosh. M. Vijayan, IISc, Bangalore, was conferred the honorary fellowship in absentia. Mr. Chandy also conferred fellowships on 27 scientists.

Addressing the gathering, Mr. Chandy said the country was watching ISRO's Mars Orbiter Mission with great enthusiasm.

He exhorted the scientific community to imbibe the spirit of enquiry and direct their research towards newer ways of making life simpler.

In his reply speech, Dr. Radhakrishnan said the Mars Orbiter Mission had enthused the younger generation. He said ISRO had come out successful in precisely directing the spacecraft towards mars through complex manoeuvring.

Dr. Rajasekharan Pillai, in his address, stressed the need for Kerala to build up a critical mass of scientists in different areas to achieve great things in science.

Dr. Ajayaghosh said science education and research had achieved momentum in India. He said students today had ample opportunities to take up science for study and research.

KAS president Oommen V. Oommen and general secretary K.G. Ajitkumar spoke.

 

[Deccani]

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its a little bit old news but worth mentioning .... (around year- 2010)

Wanted: four 'vyomanauts' for Indian spaceflight

16:17 05 January 2010 by Anil Ananthaswamy
For similar stories, visit the Space flight Topic Guide

Not so long ago, people in space were either astronauts or cosmonauts. Then the Chinese gave us taikonauts. Now, another billion-strong nation with an ambitious space programme – India – is seeking a new breed of spacefarers: vyomanauts, according to Indian media.

The tongue-twisting term comes from the Sanskrit for sky or space (vyoma, pronounced veeohma). The closest Sanskrit word to astronaut would have been vyomagami, for something that passes in the sky. The other word for an Indian spacefarer that had been bandied about was gaganaut (gagan is also Sanskrit for sky). But "vyoma is very good", says Choudury Upender Rao, a professor of Sanskrit studies at the Jawaharlal Nehru University in New Delhi. "It's an appropriate choice."

The Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) is now in the process of choosing four vyomanauts from a pool of 200 fighter pilots, P. Madhusoodanan of the Indian Air Force told DNA, a daily newspaper, this week.

India's first crewed space mission is scheduled for 2015, designs for which were unveiled last year by Madhavan NairMovie Camera, former chairman of ISRO. The three-person vehicle will initially carry two vyomanauts into 275-kilometre low-Earth orbit. Before this flight, ISRO will launch its second moon mission in 2013.

Thanks for this article .. i was unaware of this particular information about the first crewed space mission in 2015.

 

[Abhijeet Dey]

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Going to Mars: Billionaire Dennis Tito plans manned mission with possible 2017 launch

LINK: washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/going-to-mars-billionaire-dennis-tito-plans-manned-mission-with-possible-2017-launch/2013/11/20/b859bc76-51e8-11e3-9fe0-fd2ca728e67c_story.html

 

[Abhijeet Dey]

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Double post

 

[CrYsIs]

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...............What a joke

How will India launch a "MANNED MOON MISSION"..............does India have a launch vehicle for that ?

Leave alone launch vehicle India does not even have technical capability for anything near for that kind of mission...

First build a proper heavy launch vehicle,then send humans to space,after that master all associate technologies like docking and reentry and then dream of going to moon.

 

[Abhijeet Dey]

Re: After Mars mission, India plans manned moon mission

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...............What a joke

How will India launch a "MANNED MOON MISSION"..............does India have a launch vehicle for that ?

Leave alone launch vehicle India does not even have technical capability for anything near for that kind of mission...

First build a proper heavy launch vehicle,then send humans to space,after that master all associate technologies like docking and reentry and then dream of going to moon.

ISRO Orbital Vehicle

LINK: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISRO_Orbital_Vehicle

The Orbital Vehicle is to be launched on the GSLV Mk-II launcher.

 

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Americans were the only who sent a manned mission but Americans even haven't exploited moon economically . 5 days back Chinese issued statement that they are going to sent a manned mission to moon and now even the statement has been issued from our side , the only one who are silent on all this are Russians . even country like Iran is working on sending manned mission to Moon .

Exploitation of other planetary objects is still 2-3 decades behind even for the country like USA(technology wise), Plus there are still plenty of resources on earth that such a task will not be economically feasible for atleast 4-5 decades if not less and you can trust me on that. . So while we are still waiting for 2050-60s, a robotic mission to moon will not yield anything substantial as such in realty, but if the project is started with manned mission to moon in mind, sending the first a few test prototype rockets to moon with land rover an all will be the obvious choice by the ISRO anyway. Also you(or 'we' the readers, I have a habit of using 'you' word ) can be pretty sure that we(Indian or any other country with space program) are much advanced in all other areas except for the rocket itself, where the USA was when it launched its first moon mission in 1960-70s. (rocket part is restricted due to money, USA spent around 10B$ in 1960s for this mission only and most of it went in rocket development and 6 manned missions),

Also the space station serves a totally different objective, that is to do research on enabling humans to stay longer in space in zero gravity, developing solutions to counter the zero gravity effects on human body, taking pics(or space exploration outside of earth atmosphere) etc, all in all a starting learning curve for long space journeys such a human mission to MARS etc. A space station research will have as such not much impact or relation to manned mission to Moon, and in my opinion the economically beneficial thing from a space station is only the human research(humans in zero gravity or artificial gravity, recycling the water and other human waste, regenerating O2 etc) as other objectives of space station can easily be done by specific satellites.

So while we are at it, I believe that we need to go at full throttle for manned moon mission(2nd priority for land rover on mars) than any thing else for near future. rest of the things will happen automatically as we get the experience from this moon mission.

EDIT: Do watch a few ISS(international space station) videos on youtube for life in space etc. It will be quite interesting for a day or 2 atleast if you have not already.

 

[CrYsIs]

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ISRO Orbital Vehicle

LINK: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISRO_Orbital_Vehicle

The Orbital Vehicle is to be launched on the GSLV Mk-II launcher.

Oh dear sir How will the Orbiter vehicle land on moon? More importantly how will the OV support life system for 2 weeks ?

The OV is designed for LEO mission and not moon mission.

 

[CrYsIs]

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Friends Neither GSLV MK2 nor GSLV MK3 can support a manned moon mission.For a manned moon mission we need a 20-25 tonne carrying vehicle which we don't have.

India is planning a ULV Vehicle which is in distant future.

 

[t_co]

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Go India! Wishing the best of luck.

 

[Deccani]

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Exploitation of other planetary objects is still 2-3 decades behind even for the country like USA(technology wise), Plus there are still plenty of resources on earth that such a task will not be economically feasible for atleast 4-5 decades if not less and you can trust me on that. .

The talk about exploitation of moon was said by other member and that's why i have said that even Americans have not started it yet . Exploitation of moon can be not good for Earth and i think Moon will be used for placing weapons to shoot down asteroids in future . I don't know for sure but just guessing

So while we are still waiting for 2050-60s, a robotic mission to moon will not yield anything substantial as such in realty, but if the project is started with manned mission to moon in mind, sending the first a few test prototype rockets to moon with land rover an all will be the obvious choice by the ISRO anyway. Also you(or 'we' the readers, I have a habit of using 'you' word ) can be pretty sure that we(Indian or any other country with space program) are much advanced in all other areas except for the rocket itself, where the USA was when it launched its first moon mission in 1960-70s. (rocket part is restricted due to money, USA spent around 10B$ in 1960s for this mission only and most of it went in rocket development and 6 manned missions),

10B$ was quite a lot in the 60's , but now does the cost of making such launches as increased or decreased ? ISRO has been a revolution and its launching satellites in away to less cost in the lower orbit and upper orbit and this is the reason that more and more foreign companies are coming to ISRO for the satellite launches . Do you have any rough idea how much it cost India ?

Also the space station serves a totally different objective, that is to do research on enabling humans to stay longer in space in zero gravity, developing solutions to counter the zero gravity effects on human body, taking pics(or space exploration outside of earth atmosphere) etc, all in all a starting learning curve for long space journeys such a human mission to MARS etc. A space station research will have as such not much impact or relation to manned mission to Moon, and in my opinion the economically beneficial thing from a space station is only the human research(humans in zero gravity or artificial gravity, recycling the water and other human waste, regenerating O2 etc) as other objectives of space station can easily be done by specific satellites.

Are there any plans by any government to make space station on moon ? Is it possible in anyway to make base on moon as there would be zero gravity ? If there is any such venture is taken by Governments then India should for sure join.

So while we are at it, I believe that we need to go at full throttle for manned moon mission(2nd priority for land rover on mars) than any thing else for near future. rest of the things will happen automatically as we get the experience from this moon mission.

When this manned moon mission is going to be launched ? 2015 .. really excited for it . By October next year , Mars mission details would be in front of us .

EDIT: Do watch a few ISS(international space station) videos on youtube for life in space etc. It will be quite interesting for a day or 2 atleast if you have not already.

I have seeing some days back on discovery channel , if you are having any specific interesting youtube clip , please post it .

May be we will continue this thread and make it sticky for India's Moon Mission .

 

[vram]

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Friends Neither GSLV MK2 nor GSLV MK3 can support a manned moon mission.For a manned moon mission we need a 20-25 tonne carrying vehicle which we don't have.

India is planning a ULV Vehicle which is in distant future.

That is not strictly speaking true. The GSLV mk 3 does have the launch mass capability to take a crew capsule to Low Earth Orbit LEO with enough thrust to spare. If you see the Chinese rocket that has been taking up crew members to LEO you can see that the launch capability to LEO is only uptill 7000kg.Long March 2F - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
But the GSLV MK 3 will have a launch capability of uptill 10000 kg into LEO.Geosynchronous Satellite Launch Vehicle Mk III - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
so IF the launcher performs as advertised then manned space flight should not have a rocket problem for India. Even a beefed up GSLV mk 2 with bigger strap on motor can achieve this launch mass as it is already 5000 Kg till LEO in current configuration. So from there we can take the shot to the moon using the orbital mechanics that was used in mangalyaan. WE can reach the moon as a ORBITER for humans but definitely not as a lander like in Apollo .
But ya launching humans in BEO - beyond earth orbit will definitely require a newer launch vehicle. The ISRO is already started design and modelling of a semi cryo ULV unified launch vehicle, which will be the future of the India launch system. It will combine the requirements of both PSLV and GSLV and Human space flight. But that is all in the future.
Even the ISRO nows that even manned missions are only for the future. If you see the isro development roadmap they are clearly concentrating in this area and interplanetary probes only. But our nationalistic journos get hold of some far in the future planned move and hype it up. NO COUNTRY in the world today has the immediate capability to launch humans to the moon . Not even USA ..they lost that with the retirement of the shuttle system. IT will take huge money and time for both USA an d Russia to re-develop the associated technologies to make that possible. In a way we are stuck in LEO for humans till then. China does not have th rocket system yet to reach moon.
Actual it is quite sad that we as humans have lost the most remarkable achievement of human technology which was to reach another orbiting planetary like body.