Indians most sympathetic towards Israel--says study

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Pretty much Sir. It has always been a conflict between the jews and arabs long before the arabs became muslims.
 

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Remember what I had said - Power Struggle - Oneupmanship!
 

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Both of them play dirty games to each other while given the size of Israel vis a vis Palestine we can be easily mislead that all the problems for them are caused by the jewish state. However one should not overlook the role of Palestinian leaders all the financial aid that got siphoned off,inner fighting for control its a bit like India if foreigners were able to takeover first and foremost it was because of Indian foolishness.
Palestinians are a product of their environment. Of which is one of poverty and deep resentment. Even if Palestine did have a solid leader, Israel will not let them get anywhere. A blockade in one area and a police state in the other, who wants to put FDI in that? It is a continuing cycle of oppression that can only be ended by Israel. Can't wait for Palestine to change until the bully stops pushing their head into the dirt so they can stand on their own feet.
 

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See, I am not speaking for Jews alone here since I don't know about them in general, but in East, faith/culture forms a more core aspect of ones' identity than race and language alone in West. Now when colonials were in India, they devised their own theories to keep us divided on supposed "Aryan" invasion bullshit on race. Anyone with common sense would realize that race was never different in our cases. The semi-mongoloids like us are also genetically the same as north,west and south Indians.

This seems to be the case with Israel. Race it seems is NOT their identity. Religion and culture is..
The Ashkenazi Jews that joined the Zionist movement are not of common culture as they are European, the only thing that binds them is religion.
 

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So an Arab that goes in Europe and makes kids living off social benefits is entitled to stay there by same Liberal parties
but the Jew cannot stay in Palestine.Ok fine but then you forgot Israel is there and for the last 60years Arabs have been humiliated time and again by trying military adventures.
Liberal parties don't wan illegal migrants living off the dole anymore than conservatives. Liberals want the dole for legals and those that are there legally are entitled to all the benefits of being a citizen. Israel has started the vast majority of the wars it fought so no, it was Israel doing the humiliation. They humiliate Palestinians every day by demolishing their homes and forcing them through checkpoints in their own territory.

Huh!! ok so its private donation the govt has no role? But do you know its a crime to fund terrorist organisation. UAE "stopped" Taliban support because it does not have balls to go against USA. The fact remains that it was during taliban rule that an Indian plane was hijacked and landed in a place that got political and financial support of UAE.
UAE stopped acknowledging the Taliban wasn't' going to be in power for long, had nothing to do with balls. They are not a supporter of terrorism. UAE acknowledge the fact the Taliban had control over most of Afghanistan... which they did. They were more of a government than the small sliver the N. Alliance held. Don't know what "support" financial and political you think they got, but it had nothing to do with the Kandahar hijacking. That was a Pakistan based Mujihadeen group fighting for Kashmir.
1- Did you saw those "peaceful" militant on the Aid Flotilla welcoming Israeli with Knife and Bats
2- So the fact that Hezbollah stage an attack on their territory on the IDF troops patrolling the border is right?But when IDF retaliates its the usual great satan
3-West Bank is a police state because of what inter palestinian massacre or because they use Qassam rockets to target civilian
4-Gaza is under blockade yes leave it to Hamas so they can smuggle in more weapons to cause more bloodshed.
1) If they were truly militants they would have been shooting AKs and RPGs at them. The fact they grabbed anything they could to repel pirates would be considered brave anywhere else. Fact is, the ship was in international waters so IDF had no right to hijack the ship WHICH turned out not to have any weapons or bomb making material whatsoever.

2) Two sides to every story... Lebanese says they were on their side of the border.

3) West Bank doesn't launch Qassams nor does a police state prevent in-fighting when IDF lets PLO handle police matters.

4) So why does a blockade have to include construction, water-purification and learning materials?
Its a fact that the Palestinian must accept sooner or better they are not an exception in this lowly world.
India lost 1/3 of its territory to a leader who used his influence in Muslim community to create his state that time India underwent several tragedies same if not more than Palestinian.
India was not able to resist that partition but it happened so time to move on, but the funniest part is that those who went to create their state still have an unlimited want of more Indian territory.
India has little in common with Israel and far more in common with the Palestinians.

A) You both were there first
B) You both had land taken away
C) You both were abused by the occupiers

Like them or hate them they are there.
I am not advocating them to go as I already stated. Looking for an end to the oppression.

Politically they might have their differences but on the Kashmir issue it was clearly stated that Indian forces are killing innocent Muslims hence they are concerned.
The Persian-Arab hatred is far deeper than politics. It is religious and cultural.

UN removes Kashmir from disputes list
UNMOGIP is still there so it is obviously still disputed.

It doesn't matter who has what feeling.The fact is that India is not allowed to make any more concession under the rule that if some community lives in majority on some land it must secede.
Palestinians are a majority in the occupied territories so the must be free. Glad we agree.
 
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How does France view the Islamic encroachment into France?

Why are they and their culture being hounded?

In fact, it is not only France but all Mediterranean countries.

Why?
 

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How does France view the Islamic encroachment into France?

Why are they and their culture being hounded?
The vast majority of them are from former French colonies in N. Africa. They are African, speak French, and don't practice Islam regularly. In fact people do not know how many of them are still Muslim as it is illegal to force them to say. They just get lumped in as Muslim by birth. There are only 400 full blown Mosques in France with 1300 small gatherings. It isn't nearly enough to accommodate the supposed 6 million radicals trying to take over the country. They are being hounded because they are African. They live on the dole more than anyone, commit more crimes than anyone and start more riots. It is the same as Africans in the US, ours just happen to be associated with Islam. It is the US neocons perpetuating the myth more than anyone here.
 

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I am aware that the French are liberal otherwise, but are very parochial about their culture, language and so on.

They are also not quite so tolerant with the Muslims and may have good reasons too!

My school has a branch in Lyons and my schools Founder is Maj Gen Claude Martin, a Frenchman in service of the British East India Company. His will categorically said there would be no discrimination on religion. However, when the Anglican took over, the discrimination happened.

Our rallying cry still remains, 'Vive La Martinere'!
 
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