Indian yaw maneuvering missiles: Enemy BMD saying WTF

[Kshithij]

Do not mix turbojet and ramjet. They work on different principles.

Actually, I am speaking of RAMJET and Turbofan. Both work on different principles but both don't carry oxidiser within.

Liquid fuels can indeed be throttled but as I said before, due to oxidiser presence, the amount of fuel will be low due to which maneuver will mean that the range is drastically reduced. Also, the prithvi is a liquid fuel rocket, not ramjet or turbofan. The fuel is exhausted in first few minutes of the flight itself. So, there won't be any fuel to throttle while maneuvering

 

[lcafanboy]

Won't these maneuver require GPS guidance? What if GPS shuts down to ensure that missiles aren't fired from its guidance?

Have you heard about IRNSS NAVIC.

We now have our own GPS like location and navigation system and this is Indian and is more accurate than GPS, even Israel is using it now as redundancy.

India uses Russian glonass primary and GPS redundancy now it's being switched to NAVIC and GLONASS.

India leant lesson during Kargil war when uncle switch ed off GPS for India.

 

[freethinker777]

are all our capabilities and possesions in public domain ? better to keep things secret and keep enemy guessing.

 

[Kshithij]

Have you heard about IRNSS NAVIC.

We now have our own GPS like location and navigation system and this is Indian and is more accurate than GPS, even Israel is using it now as redundancy.

India uses Russian glonass primary and GPS redundancy now it's being switched to NAVIC and GLONASS.

India leant lesson during Kargil war when uncle switch ed off GPS for India.

No, I am speaking of 1980s and 1990s. Today, I understand that India has NAVIC. India has stopped using GPS or any other generic Satellite signals and instead rely on military grade NAVIC signals only. These signals are also jam proof. Even GLONASS is not fully trustworthy as military signals are not available for India.

 

[Kshithij]

are all our capabilities and possesions in public domain ? better to keep things secret and keep enemy guessing.

Our capabilities are not higher than Russian or American capabilities. No, keeping them in private will only result in corruption and deceptions. Enemy will know of our capabilities as there are lot of defence deals being done and these are public in matter.

 

[sayareakd]

Won't these maneuver require GPS guidance? What if GPS shuts down to ensure that missiles aren't fired from its guidance?

In 1984 when it was tested, they didn't heard about GPS.

 

[sayareakd]

are all our capabilities and possesions in public domain ? better to keep things secret and keep enemy guessing.

This was second inspirational speech Dr. Pillai has given, first one didn't had slide. Still i figure out and shared with both whatsap DFI group members. When second one came. I found fit enough to put on our forum to be discussed.
Ofcourse main purpose to show

to Rand Corporation, they are trying very hard to block us from making hypersonic weapon.
Our own version of HGV exist for K series.

 

[sayareakd]

Our capabilities are not higher than Russian or American capabilities. No, keeping them in private will only result in corruption and deceptions. Enemy will know of our capabilities as there are lot of defence deals being done and these are public in matter.

Don't undersell yourself. Fine examples are Brahmos air launch fired from SU30MKI & Mars mission.

 

[lcafanboy]

Don't undersell yourself. Fine examples are Brahmos air launch fired from SU30MKI & Mars mission.

You forgot INS Arihant class submarines, which are actually Hybrid of SSN & SSBN or Multirole Submarines (Indian Jugaad), which can be SSBN and when necessary can become SSN too............

 

[NeXoft007]

You forgot INS Arihant class submarines, which are actually Hybrid of SSN & SSBN or Multirole Submarines (Indian Jugaad), which can be SSBN and when necessary can become SSN too............

AFAIK, Every SSBN is an SSN itself, but not every SSN is a SSBN.

 

[Kshithij]

AFAIK, Every SSBN is an SSN itself, but not every SSN is a SSBN.

No, SSN is different from SSBN in terms of noise levels, size and fluid dynamics. SSN is designed to be more stealthy while SSBN is designed to be more bulky and to hover around in an area for months waiting to strike at command. SSN can also be SSBN by carrying smaller missiles with smaller ranges but SSBN can't go and attack other submarines or ships as it will be easily detected miles away due to unstealthy nature

 

[lcafanboy]

No, SSN is different from SSBN in terms of noise levels, size and fluid dynamics. SSN is designed to be more stealthy while SSBN is designed to be more bulky and to hover around in an area for months waiting to strike at command. SSN can also be SSBN by carrying smaller missiles with smaller ranges but SSBN can't go and attack other submarines or ships as it will be easily detected miles away due to unstealthy nature

You nailed it..........
That's why INS Arihant is special (It's SSN with 4 Vertical Launch Tubes so doubles up as SSBN, a HYBRID or Crossover).............

 

[sayareakd]

No, SSN is different from SSBN in terms of noise levels, size and fluid dynamics. SSN is designed to be more stealthy while SSBN is designed to be more bulky and to hover around in an area for months waiting to strike at command. SSN can also be SSBN by carrying smaller missiles with smaller ranges but SSBN can't go and attack other submarines or ships as it will be easily detected miles away due to unstealthy nature

SSBN is stealthy with low speed and SSN is like fast sports car with less stealth, design to hunt down SSBN.

 

[Kshithij]

SSBN is stealthy with low speed and SSN is like fast sports car with less stealth, design to hunt down SSBN.

SSBN is not stealthy. It is much larger than SSN and is easily detected on movement. SSBN hides and stay as low as possible to avoid detection. SSN on the other hand goesfor the kill and hence SSN is smaller as well as less detectable compared to SSBN under similar speeds of travel and depth. SSBN has a doctrine of hiding. But, that is not really stealth by virtue of its build

 

[no smoking]

No smoke, have you watched the video, Dr.Pillai was the first CEO of Brahmos.
He was instrumental in making Brahmos what it is.
Including Sub launch Brahmos. Thats Indian again Indian tech. As Russians refused to share sub launch tech with us.
We invested so much that we got different ways of Sub launch systems.

It doesn't matter who he is if what his claim contracts the history fact. We all know what kind of missile technologies India was working on in 1980s and early 1990s. 150km Prithvi I missile was inducted into service in 1994 's maximum altitude (30km) and maximum speed (<6 mach) couldn't support a hypersonic glider.

 

[sayareakd]

this is old A1 video with RV exploding at the end.

i put all the RV screen shot in same frame.

now fixing the Horizon in the frame.

it shows tilted trajectory.

Looks like A1 could also do this Yam manoeuvre :biggrin2:

 

[Tanmay]

this is old A1 video with RV exploding at the end.

i put all the RV screen shot in same frame.

View attachment 22631

now fixing the Horizon in the frame.

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it shows tilted trajectory.

Looks like A1 could also do this Yam manoeuvre :biggrin2:

Is it yaw or yam
Like roll pitch and yaw. Never heard yam

 

[lcafanboy]

Is it yaw or yam
Like roll pitch and yaw. Never heard yam

It is Tamil/Telgu/Kannada/Malyalam (South Indian) Version of English letter M.............:biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2:

 

[Chinmoy]

Lets change the thread title to

Prithvi missile and its yaw maneuver: Enemy BMD saying WTF

 

[sayareakd]

A1 (A) was tested today, its NOTAM by @kuru
We already seen this trejectory

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