Indian-US-Aussie Navy Co-Operation to counter China

[Parthy]

US seeks naval roles for Australia, India

THE United States is seeking to build its naval co-operation with Australia in the face of a growing Chinese challenge to its dominance of east Asia's waterways.

US forces may be eyeing greater use of Australian bases and other facilities as the Pentagon prepares a new regional defence posture that is more ''politically sustainable'' and ''geographically dispersed'' than the current heavy focus on Japan and South Korea.

At the same time, Washington will try to draw India's increasingly powerful navy into an expanded security role extending into the Pacific Ocean.

Defence experts in Canberra were intrigued yesterday by these hints by the US Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, in a speech in Hawaii on Thursday, at the start of a seven-nation Asia-Pacific tour that will include Australia.

Clinton and the US Defence Secretary, Robert Gates, will be in Melbourne on Monday week for tightly guarded talks with the Foreign Affairs Minister, Kevin Rudd, and the Defence Minister, Stephen Smith, the annual bilateral strategic dialogue.

The US President, Barack Obama, meanwhile, is setting off on an Asian tour next week in which India will be his first stop.

Clinton said that, with India's growing engagement and integration into east Asia, ''we believe that India is a key player in this region and on the global stage''. Obama's trip, she said, ''will bring together two of our top priorities - renewed American leadership in Asia and a US-India partnership that is elevated to an entirely new level''.

Clinton said Washington was not seeking to ''contain'' China and had consistently encouraged China's emergence since the 1970s.

But at the same time she talked of a ''forward-deployed diplomacy'' and the reinvigoration of relationships with allies and friends around the region, from big nations like India and Japan to small powers like New Zealand and Singapore.

''We continue to modernise our defence ties with Australia to respond to a more complex maritime environment,'' she said. ''And we are expanding our work with the Indian Navy in the Pacific because we understand how important the Indo-Pacific basin is to global trade and commerce.''

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[LETHALFORCE]

Few years ago it was USA-India-Japan-Australia naval exercises to counter China and Australia was the first ones to drop out of it, interesting this time Japan is not involved;the Base issue with USA is probably the reason??

 

[SHASH2K2]

We cannot trust those racist Australians. They are incapable and have little or almost no naval capability. Moreover they are more with China now a days due to their economic conditions. I donot think they have balls to openly come out against China.

 

[SHASH2K2]

Few years ago it was USA-India-Japan-Australia naval exercises to counter China and Australia was the first ones to drop out of it, interesting this time Japan is not involved;the Base issue with USA is probably the reason??

After recent spat with Chinese Japanese will be more than willing to join the coalition. It looks like Okinawa base issue is already on backburner .

 

[Parthy]

We cannot trust those racist Australians. They are incapable and have little or almost no naval capability. Moreover they are more with China now a days due to their economic conditions. I donot think they have balls to openly come out against China.

I think it will be more like US playing the role of Interlocutor... India<-{US}->Aussie. China will be wary of it.

Easy way to confront Chinese "String of Pearls" to back-fire them as "Sting of Pearls" :emot15:

In the mean time, should be watchful against US too... :emot159:

 

[SHASH2K2]

I think it will be more like US playing the role of Interlocutor... India<-{US}->Aussie. China will be wary of it.

Easy way to confront Chinese "String of Pearls" to back-fire them as "Sting of Pearls" :emot15:

In the mean time, should be watchful against US too... :emot159:

Australians will be part of coalition just for sake of pleasing USA but int he meanwhile they will be playing the double game by being friendly with Chinese as well. They cannot be trusted. moreover their navy is not in the same league as USA , Japan or even ours.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

If Australia had to act against China I doubt they would, they are probably pressurized in this by USA. Their naval capabilities are another issue all together. Australia would be scaird of repercussions from an support against China, look for them to drop out and break this alliance very shortly.

 

[Parthy]

After recent spat with Chinese Japanese will be more than willing to join the coalition. It looks like Okinawa base issue is already on backburner .

I think they may think of their alternate base to operate from Guam.. But that will increase the Chinese presence in that region..

Recently, Trident submarine surfaced in Okinawa island rite as part of South Korea - US war games??

 

[LETHALFORCE]

I think it will be more like US playing the role of Interlocutor... India<-{US}->Aussie. China will be wary of it.

Easy way to confront Chinese "String of Pearls" to back-fire them as "Sting of Pearls" :emot15:

In the mean time, should be watchful against US too... :emot159:

think about this setup as a marriage of convenience.

 

[Parthy]

Australians will be part of coalition just for sake of pleasing USA but int he meanwhile they will be playing the double game by being friendly with Chinese as well. They cannot be trusted. moreover their navy is not in the same league as USA , Japan or even ours.

Agreed. They may not be a part of this pact in full pledge!! But China's growing presence in South China sea has worried Aussies too.

 

[ajtr]

both aussies and americans are doubtful allies.more over aussies are heavily tilted towards chinese.cant trust either of them and put india in georgia like situation where it was left high and dry by usa during war with russia.

 

[SHASH2K2]

Agreed. They may not be a part of this pact in full pledge!! But China's growing presence in South China sea has worried Aussies too.

They are just playing smart by getting maximum benefit from both parties. given their economic and military might thats the best thing for them to do.

 

[Parthy]

Location A - Okinawa
Location B - Guam

 

[ajtr]

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[Yusuf]

Aussie honeymoon with China under Rudd is over. It was all during the time even the US was in a tango with China. All that has changed now. Racist or not, the Aussies know what the Chinese intentions are and also how quickly India is moving close to the US strategically. An alliance will slowly but surely come up in the Asia Pac region and Australia will be part of it.

 

[Parthy]

Is Australian Royal Navy is a Blue water navy or wat??

 

[SHASH2K2]

check this news .


China holds live-fire drill with Australian navy

 

[SHASH2K2]

Is Australian Royal Navy is a Blue water navy or wat??

I think this will help you . They donot have any Aircraft carrier.

http://www.navy.gov.au/Current_Ships

 

[pmaitra]

Is Australian Royal Navy is a Blue water navy or wat??

It is not quite a Blue Water Navy, but they call themselves the Royal Australian Navy, so technically, it is part of the Navy of the British Empire (or whatever of the Empire exists today), hence, it can indeed get help of NZ and UK Navies and in effect forms a part of a Blue Water Navy.

Their main tasks, in recent years, has been safeguarding the huge coastline that Australia has, including, but not limited to, search and rescue, counter-smuggling, counter-terrorism and preventing illegal immigration.

 

[Parthy]

We have to agree that we don't have a better relationship with Aussies... Let it be any field...

Aussie athletes outragged and battered CWG village after they lost a test match to India... :emot154: