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If all you say is true then why WAG -12 has not succeeded in two test runs.
Doesn’t matter. Alstom will address whatever teething issues there may be.


Not if WAG-11 clears trials first... :india:
1) order has been agreed with Alstom, there is ZERO going back now regardless of what WAG-11 does.
2) even though it is 11,0000HP, what is WAG-11’s axle load? 22 tons? Compared to the 25tons that DFCs are designed for and that WAG-12 can support.
 

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FOB section collapses in Mumbai. 5 dead.
 

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1) order has been agreed with Alstom, there is ZERO going back now regardless of what WAG-11 does.
2) even though it is 11,0000HP, what is WAG-11’s axle load? 22 tons? Compared to the 25tons that DFCs are designed for and that WAG-12 can support.
But there is going back on what WAG-12 does!

Alstom fucked up big time (refer to older posts here).
Got 2nd chance, fucked up again bigger time.
Given time to fix issues, could deliver within deadline & still haven't.

Alstom's WAG-12 will be to the IR, what Sukhoi's FGFA was to IAF... except IR has an indigenous alternative in sight.

I don't understand this love & loyalty of yours towards a foreign company over ours, but India's WAG11 is waaaay ahead as of now, & it's out there. WAG-12 is back in the sheds.

WAG-9 has 22.5 axle load. Both units of WAG-11 are much longer, maybe even than WAG-12 units. I don't know the exact value, but I'll make an educated guess that it isn't enough to make a difference, just like the power output.

WAG-12 is back at basics, 1st March...
...while WAG-11 is being seen now at Varanasi...
weeks later at Moradabad... ...weeks later yet, at ???
 
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But there is going back on what WAG-12 does!

Alstom fucked up big time (refer to older posts here).
Got 2nd chance, fucked up again bigger time.
Given time to fix issues, could deliver within deadline & still haven't.

Alstom's WAG-12 will be to the IR, what Sukhoi's FGFA was to IAF... except IR has an indigenous alternative in sight.

I don't understand this love & loyalty of yours towards a foreign company over ours, but India's WAG11 is waaaay ahead as of now, & it's out there. WAG-12 is back in the sheds.

WAG-9 has 22.5 axle load. Both units of WAG-11 are much longer, maybe even than WAG-12 units. I don't know the exact value, but I'll make an educated guess that it isn't enough to make a difference, just like the power output.

WAG-12 is back at basics, 1st March...
...while WAG-11 is being seen now at Varanasi...
weeks later at Moradabad... ...weeks later yet, at ???
Again, irrelevant.

Deal is DONE, contracts signed and work begun. Already Alstom has ploughed 10s of millions into local production facilties.

Do you really think it’s beyond Alstom’s Capabilities to solve whatever issues they are facing?

You really think any govt would sign such a deal
And then scrap it after just a couple of years?


Whatever happens Alstom will deliver 800.
 

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Looks like Times Now and Republic TV sharing same hashtag. One mildly criticizing govt's 'Vikas' and other hammer BMC.
How the hell can one man change the entire infrastructure of India in less than 5 years? Progress is happening but given the neglect that’s been allowed for decades it will take time to really show results
 

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Deal is DONE, contracts signed and work begun. Already Alstom has ploughed 10s of millions into local production facilties.

Do you really think it’s beyond Alstom’s Capabilities to solve whatever issues they are facing?

You really think any govt would sign such a deal
And then scrap it after just a couple of years?


Whatever happens Alstom will deliver 800.
Maybe... Greasy palms have been known to make things happen in India. You too seem very concerned about Alstom's monetary losses. :playball:
WAG-12 remains a dangerously unreliable disaster as of now. IR made a deal for capable products, & is under no obligation to accept pieces of crap over superior indigenous successful platforms.

Let's see. Time will tell.:daru:
 
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Maybe... Greasy palms have been known to make things happen in India. You too seem very concerned about Alstom's monetary losses. :playball:
WAG-12 remains a dangerously unreliable failure as of now. IR made a deal for capable products, & is under no obligation to accept pieces of crap over superior indigenous successful platforms.
Let's see. Time will tell.:daru:
Yes they signed a deal for a product and they will get that product and won’t accept anything less. I’m not concerned for Alstom but am judging the situation from their perspective- they are a globally respected company with a huge presence in dozens of countries . They cannot afford to be seen to lose such a massive contract for this very reason forgetting the fact that they are in the running for other contracts that they would obviously want to bag.

They have every incentive to fix any issues they may face and more than ample technical means to do so. It’s simple logic that WAG-12 will be delivered soon and to the correct standard.


As for the charges of corruption, no evidence of this to date and this govt simply has eliminated all high level palm greasing so let’s not make any such accusations.
 

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Yes they signed a deal for a product and they will get that product and won’t accept anything less. I’m not concerned for Alstom but am judging the situation from their perspective- they are a globally respected company with a huge presence in dozens of countries . They cannot afford to be seen to lose such a massive contract for this very reason forgetting the fact that they are in the running for other contracts that they would obviously want to bag.

They have every incentive to fix any issues they may face and more than ample technical means to do so. It’s simple logic that WAG-12 will be delivered soon and to the correct standard.


As for the charges of corruption, no evidence of this to date and this govt simply has eliminated all high level palm greasing so let’s not make any such accusations.
Maybe... maybe not. Remember FGFA?

Let's see. Time will tell. Time is a factor. By the time your precious Alstom is ready for round2, WAG-11 could be cleared for induction. DLW is expected to lobby to drop the foreign failure.:daru:
From what happens then, we'll know whether someone needs to wash their palms or not.
 

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Maybe... maybe not. Remember FGFA?

Let's see. Time will tell. Time is a factor. By the time your precious Alstom is ready for round2, WAG-11 could be cleared for induction. DLW is expected to lobby to drop the foreign failure.:daru:
From what happens then, we'll know whether someone needs to wash their palms or not.
Can’t compare white elephant that it FGFA to proven Prima-2 and India never got as far as signing an actual order for FGFAs. India HAS signed a deal for 800 WAG-12.

Nothing that WAG-11 now does will change this, already hundreds of people are employed by Alstom in India just to make WAG-12 in India. Window to cancel this deal has firmly closed.

WAG-11 besides isn’t earmarked for DFCs, WAG-12 is
 

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How the hell can one man change the entire infrastructure of India in less than 5 years? Progress is happening but given the neglect that’s been allowed for decades it will take time to really show results
It distracted people from UNSC vote this morning. BTW BJP and SS have been acting ultra suave on TV.
 

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Can’t compare white elephant that it FGFA to proven Prima-2 and India never got as far as signing an actual order for FGFAs. India HAS signed a deal for 800 WAG-12.

Nothing that WAG-11 now does will change this, already hundreds of people are employed by Alstom in India just to make WAG-12 in India. Window to cancel this deal has firmly closed.

WAG-11 besides isn’t earmarked for DFCs, WAG-12 is
Your "proven" Prima-2 almost hit itself into irreparable damage, sure to something as basic & serious as BRAKE FAILURE!! TWICE!!!
Indian's love for phoren maal is well known, but if that deal isn't cancelled in favour of the superior indigenous platform, despite Alstom repeatedly failing to clear even primary trials... then the only explanation would be Indian's love for phoren money.

Let's wait & watch. No updates of WAG-12 for months.
 

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Your "proven" Prima-2 almost hit itself into irreparable damage, sure to something as basic & serious as BRAKE FAILURE!! TWICE!!!
Indian's love for phoren maal is well known, but if that deal isn't cancelled in favour of the superior indigenous platform, despite Alstom repeatedly failing to clear even primary trials... then the only explanation would be Indian's love for phoren money.

Let's wait & watch. No updates of WAG-12 for months.
You’re ignoring everything I’ve said.

Regardless of whatever issues they may have faced, WAG12 will be suitably modified and delivered.

It’s beyond the point where this can change and it has nothing to do with loving imports, the deal is done.
 

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Our cumulative numbers also won’t beat Chinese numbers for now. Then again we have 55 thousand coaches in use. Don’t have to produce at the same rate they are doing.
looks like i was wrong...

Indian Railways Breaks Make In India Record: Produces Over 6,000 Train Coaches Indigenously In FY19
Indian Railways has achieved yet another glorious feat by breaking all records of net annual coach production at its different factories by wide margins.

Together, under Rail Minister Piyush Goyal's supervision the three coach factories of the Indian Railways namely, Integral Coach Factory (ICF), Modern Coach Factory (MCF) and Rail Coach Factory (RCF) produced a record 6,037 coaches in total, belittling the previous year's figure of 4,470 coaches which was the previous record. This marks a stellar 35 per cent growth in production.

The remarkable achievement has been accomplished despite each of these factories being pushed to diversify their production, producing pantry cars, power cars, LHB (Linke Hofmann Busch), MEMU (Mainline Electric Multiple Unit), EMU (Electric Multiple Unit) coaches along with working on indigenous and totally new concept projects like Train-18 Vande Bharat Express at ICF.

Apart from the above mentioned achievement, ICF in Chennai also went on to earn the crown of being the largest rail car builder in the world. It beat China's top manufacturer with an annual production which hovers around 2,600 coaches annually.

Meanwhile, in the politically hot constituency of Raebareli, the MCF too surpassed its assigned target yet again, producing 1,425 coaches in total, against the target of 1,422. This marks more than 100 per cent growth in production at the MCF which had produced 711 coaches in the previous financial year against the assigned target of 710 coaches.

Furthering its achievements, MCF in January also achieved its highest ever monthly production by building out 152 coaches in a month. With new heights being achieved in coach production, all three coach factories are poised to perform even much better in the financial year 2019-2020.

https://swarajyamag.com/insta/india...-over-6000-train-coaches-indigenously-in-fy19
 

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looks like i was wrong...

Indian Railways Breaks Make In India Record: Produces Over 6,000 Train Coaches Indigenously In FY19
Indian Railways has achieved yet another glorious feat by breaking all records of net annual coach production at its different factories by wide margins.

Together, under Rail Minister Piyush Goyal's supervision the three coach factories of the Indian Railways namely, Integral Coach Factory (ICF), Modern Coach Factory (MCF) and Rail Coach Factory (RCF) produced a record 6,037 coaches in total, belittling the previous year's figure of 4,470 coaches which was the previous record. This marks a stellar 35 per cent growth in production.

The remarkable achievement has been accomplished despite each of these factories being pushed to diversify their production, producing pantry cars, power cars, LHB (Linke Hofmann Busch), MEMU (Mainline Electric Multiple Unit), EMU (Electric Multiple Unit) coaches along with working on indigenous and totally new concept projects like Train-18 Vande Bharat Express at ICF.

Apart from the above mentioned achievement, ICF in Chennai also went on to earn the crown of being the largest rail car builder in the world. It beat China's top manufacturer with an annual production which hovers around 2,600 coaches annually.

Meanwhile, in the politically hot constituency of Raebareli, the MCF too surpassed its assigned target yet again, producing 1,425 coaches in total, against the target of 1,422. This marks more than 100 per cent growth in production at the MCF which had produced 711 coaches in the previous financial year against the assigned target of 710 coaches.

Furthering its achievements, MCF in January also achieved its highest ever monthly production by building out 152 coaches in a month. With new heights being achieved in coach production, all three coach factories are poised to perform even much better in the financial year 2019-2020.

https://swarajyamag.com/insta/india...-over-6000-train-coaches-indigenously-in-fy19
Good news. Specially China wala part.
 

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Indian Railways register its best safety figures in almost four decades

The Indian Railways has registered its best safety figures in almost four decades in 2018-2019 till March, data has shown. The number of consequential accidents has come down from 1,130 in 1980-81 to mere 59 (94.8 per cent reduction) in 2018-19. During the same period, the fatality figure has come down from 658 in 1981-82 to 37 in 2018-19 (94.4 per cent reduction).

"The number of Accidents Per Million Train Kilometres came down from a high figure of 2.20 in 1981-82 to an all-time low figure of 0.06 in 2018-19. This shows that the Indian Railways is poised towards zero-accident mode," a senior official said.


https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/i...y-figures-in-almost-four-decades-3771701.html
 

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Indian Railways On A Roll: 500 Railway Stations Get Free WiFi Facility In Just 7 Days, Total Count Reaches 1500
by Swarajya Staff - Apr 07 2019, 10:42 am,





Railwire provides the WiFi facilities at the stations.


There is nothing stopping Indian Railways, as it continues to make headlines with newer achievements every other day.

This time, it has achieved a mammoth feat of equipping 500 railway stations with the capability to provide free high-speed internet access - called RailWire - to the public and passengers, in just seven days, reports Financial Express.

The unprecedented feat has been achieved just days after Indian Railways announced in March 2019 that it had enabled the facility at 1,000 stations. Now with this new development, the total count has soared to 1,500 stations.

The project is being executed by RailTel which is a mini-ratna Central Public Sector Undertaking (CPSU) under the Ministry of Railways in a technology partnership with Google. Also, this comes as a big shot in the arm for Prime Minister Narendra Modi's pet project, "Digital India."

Northern Railways’ Sahibabad station has become the 1500th railway station in India to get the free WiFi facility. Earlier the entire sections of Delhi-Ambala and Ambala- Chandigarh, as well as Kalka Shimla Hill Railways, had been covered with RailTel’s free WiFi service at railway stations.

The RailWire WiFi is available to anyone who has a smartphone with working connection for KYC considerations. People will have to switch on their smartphone’s WiFi mode and select the RailWire WiFi network. Following this, the RailWire homepage automatically appears on the screen. After this, the user has to enter his or her mobile number on the homepage, following which one-time password (OTP) is sent in the form of SMS in the message box. Now, for the verification, the user has to provide the OTP and once the verification is complete, he or she can use the high-speed internet service.
 

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Exclusive: Engineless 160 kmph train to replace Rajdhani Express next year! This is Indian Railways big plan
Engineless train to replace Rajdhani Express! After the success of Vande Bharat Express, Indian Railways is now looking to manufacture a sleeper version of the engine-less train for long-distance travel.

With the success of the Delhi-Varanasi Vande Bharat Express, Indian Railways is now working on a 160 kmph-capable sleeper train set that will cover long distances.
Engineless train to replace Rajdhani Express! After the success of Vande Bharat Express, Indian Railways is now looking to manufacture a sleeper version of the engine-less train for long-distance travel. This new self-propelled premium train will look to replace Rajdhani Express trains of Indian Railways. The first Rajdhani Express was introduced in 1969, and its swankier replacement is expected to roll out after over 50 years in 2020. The new sleeper variant of Vande Bharat Express or Train 18 will be manufactured at the Integral Coach Factory (ICF) in Chennai, learns Financial Express Online. “The design work for a Rajdhani Express-style Train 18 is in process. We hope to complete it by year-end and get it finalised by the Railway Board,” an ICF official told Financial Express Online.


With the success of the Delhi-Varanasi Vande Bharat Express, Indian Railways is now working on a 160 kmph-capable sleeper train set that will cover long distances and offer premium comforts along the lines of Rajdhani Express for overnight journeys. “Once the design is approved for the sleeper variant of Train 18, we should be able to rollout the new offering by middle of 2020,” the official told Financial Express Online.

Indian Railways took a technological leap with the introduction of state-of-the-art self-propelled Vande Bharat Express, a new train aimed at replacing Shatabdi Express trains and also offering a cost-effective and more eco-friendly alternative to the premium service. Vande Bharat Express is a 16-coach AC Chair car service with Executive and non-Executive coaches. Some of its most prominent features are; automatic doors with sliding footsteps, bullet train-style white exterior, European-style seats, bio-vacuum toilets, aircraft-like LED lighting. personalised reading lights, on-board infotainment etc.



PM Narendra Modi flagged off the first Vande Bharat Express service between Delhi and Varanasi in February this year. The train takes 8 hours between the two cities, stopping at Kanpur and Allahabad (Prayagraj) enroute. Financial Express Online has earlier reported that four more such AC chair car Train 18 sets are expected in this financial year.

The move to replace Rajdhani Express trains with more energy efficient train sets that will cut down travel time on the Golden Quadrilateral is a welcome step. Indian Railways aims to upgrade rolling stock, tracks and signalling infrastructure on the Golden Quadrilateral, to allow for movement of trains at 160 kmph speed, and bring down the travel time between major metros to 12 hours.
 

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