Indian nuclear attack on Rawalpindi

[pbabu266]

Indian nuke doctrine should be:

For every single nuke lobbed at india, 2 will be lobbed at pakistan and 3 will be lobbed at china......

Really, 4 nukes finishes the pak game off. Don't be proud of pak nukes their payload is very less
r u dreaming about china!!!.. if 3 lobbed at china 10 will be lobbed at Russia to help India.

 

[maomao]

That's what COLD START is meant for. You're suicidal but we're genocidal. Keep this psychological nonsense to yourself. One city attacked with anything close to NBC and just see what response you get. And this taking down response means every country that even clanedestinely funds you from middle east. Our end would mean the annihilation of your kind straight from your theocratic wahabi master to your border with us.

You think you're the only one who can escalate the cost of a nuclear war? India has a lot to lose agreed; but your entire bandwagon of Arab masters who're secretly supporting you as RAW's monitoring are in for hell to if you want to play nuclear card. Indian intelligence is fully aware of Saudi's hand in funding your nuclear programme clandestinely.

Good one!! "You're suicidal but we're genocidal"...LOL..=i+:emot15:

Saudi may be funding Failed State pakistan, but can you site any source that they are funding Nuclear arms for beggar state of pakistan?

 

[pbabu266]

India would never attack pak and everyone knows that. even in kargil we never crossed the LOC. After the parliament atttack and the 26/11 carnage too we did not have the guts to fire a single bullet at pakistan. then how could we just drop a nuclear bomb on pak in any scenario. to even think of dropping a nuclear bomb on rawalpindi is just absurd. besides why should we think of mass murder? this forum should be better utilised for bringing peace and prosperity to all the people in this world.

I agree India never wants nuclear war fare.
but we have already crossed LOC. Entire Siachen Glacier is under our control only ( Indian army the great)
i am not mentioning this here for controversy as Indian gov said that they will withdrew the force from SG if Pak agree LOC officially.
it is now pak to decide.

 

[Mustang]

GOI cant do APeshit even if another attack comes.it has been proven time 'n again by pakistan.So stop fantasizing.Reality for you..GOI is out of ideas on how to deal with pakistan accept for come begging to Pak army to spare it.And its harsh truth ...early the indians realize better they will be.

You seem to have forgotten what happened when sri lankan team visited your country immediately after mumbai attack. Try guessing who could have done it and you will only come up with ideas as to how to maim jerks within your country.

 

[Parthy]

i am not mentioning this here for controversy as Indian gov said that they will withdrew the force from SG if Pak agree LOC officially.
it is now pak to decide.

Any proof or source on this statement??

 

[Yusuf]

Am not sure about how much nukes they owned during cold war...

As per the latest update, "new Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START) negotiated earlier this year restricts Russia and the United States to a maximum of 1,550 deployed warheads each, a cut of about 30 percent from a limit set in 2002."

source - http://www.defencetalk.com/nato-to-keep-nuclear-weapons-29953

That is those deployed. Hair trigger alert. It says nothing about inactive warheads which are in the thousands.

 

[Yusuf]

question to all, Pakistan has full stop after use of its nuclear weapons against India, our nuclear weapons policy starts after that (no first use with exceptions), Question is what is after that with respect to Pakistan ???

India will launch its nukes in retaliation. But before that the international community will try hard to prevent India from doing that, but Indian people will kill those to succumb under that pressure. So India will launch at all of Paks major cities. Quite a lot of damage will be inflicted. Will that still stop the war is not certain. At least India is not going to declare a unilateral ceasefire. It will go for the kill. Will Pakistan be able to stop India post nuke exchange is not sure.

Actually this would make a case for a separate thread. What after a nuclear exchange between India and Pakistan during a major war?

 

[warriorextreme]

if war starts ever again it will be sparked by Pakistan only..

and secondly i wont even dream about writing such a huge article its nice though..

and thirdly
if pakis can dreamabout attacking Bangalore then we can attack all the main paki cities in matter of minutes...Rawalpindi,Karachi,Islamabad,Lahore short list(they have these many only that can be called as cities)

 

[plugwater]

May i know how the warhead in incoming missile can be identified whether it is conventional or nuclear ?

 

[Yusuf]

You cannot determine that manc. Hardly any time. A launch of a ballistic missile by a nuclear country will be construed as a nuke tipped one and their will be an immediate retaliation. That's how it was in the cold war and that's why all measures were taken to prevent any accidental launch. One mistake and mankind would have vanished back then.

 

[plugwater]

Only ballistic missile Yusuf ? Does this condition include cruise missiles ?

What if the incoming missile is not nuclear and we retaliated with nuclear missiles. The whole world will blame us for starting the nuclear war rite ?

 

[Yusuf]

Only ballistic missile Yusuf ? Does this condition include cruise missiles ?

What if the incoming missile is not nuclear and we retaliated with nuclear missiles. The whole world will blame us for starting the nuclear war rite ?

Cruise missile is anyways hard to detect. So what's on it is usually known after it hits. But generally cruise missiles have been used in tactical role and not strategic, though it can be used. But the onus for replying with a nuke in response to a conventional launch cannot be on the one launching nukes. Who asked the other guy to lob a missile in the first place as far as ballistic missiles are concerned.

 

[Rage]

May i know how the warhead in incoming missile can be identified whether it is conventional or nuclear ?

There is no knowledge of any system, at least in the public domain, that can detect and decipher a real nuclear warhead from a conventional warhead on an incoming missile. That is one of the prime intelligence failures of pre-emption.

With missiles that can travel around the world in about 20 mins. and SLBM's with flight times as short as 12 mins, pressure-packed timelines essentially reduce decision making to a series of checklists.

Heck, we even have problems distinguishing between real warheads and decoys. Even so, the problem essentially reduces down to detecting and destroying all real warheads <non-nuclear inclusive> and decoys, made of tin foil. Even with real and decoy warheads, radars find it difficult to distinguish between decoy and warhead because their spaces reflect radio waves similarly. Moreover, radars have to contend with clouds of thin metallic foil strips called chaff. Infrared devices, still for their part, have some difficulty distinguishing between warhead and decoys, but while tinfoil decoys quickly become cold in the surrounding space, warheads retain their heat and radiate it. So in theory, infrared devices of sufficient sophistication could, in tandem with anti-ballistic missiles, or sea-based, space-based, laser, and high altitude missile systems, detect and destroy real warheads <and thereby, nuclear warheads> in the post-boost and terminal phases. The SIBRIS (Space Based Infra Red System- US) due for launch in 2011, is intended to distinghuish between real and decoy warheads with a great degree of accuracy. The problem then, is ofcourse, how to minimize the fallout; ideally, you'd want to achieve it as high as possible, in the post-boost phase. And containment strategies, which could hypothetically be achieved by scattering radioactive-absorbent material in high low-earth orbit.

 

[Logan]

Pals!!... Do u think it is going to end that easily...

If pakistan turns more politically unstable it is going to be a big trouble for
India.. More civil war and economic hurted society will be turned to jihadis by
Islamist extremist provided fund from arab nations...

India will be targeted for 90% as we are well placed geographically with them.
And the remaining 10% will be Israel, US and European nations..

"The only solution for Pakistan is either the people should not take jihad option
as part of their policy or Pakistan army and ISI should change their way to see India
and handle Kashmir to India to be considered as integral part of India.."

Do you think the above solution will work?? It is not going to work for 101% :emot154:

The only option is, if there is any terror attack happens on any Indian cities..
Attack pakistan from both eastern front and in POK conventionally.. We need to
push it hard as we can till the pakistan forces retreat from Kashmir.. And parallely, we should be
monitoring Chinese forces on western front and keep our forces on operation readiness
to counter any mis-adventure by China through Nepal/Tibet to support Pakistan. And when
they feel like they're going to lose Kashmir, they'll take Nuke option which was always
there at their cards against India.. And provided, our BMD is shielded the Indian borders
shared with Pakistan.. And this is the scenario, we go-ahead and wipe out Pakistan completely..
And demonstrate our strategic capability to the entire world and China so that in future
nobody takes any chances with us and will push for more diplomatic ties...

We have already proved that we have the capability and capacity to resurrect from the worst....

Sometimes thinking diplomatically does help.War is not the only solution towards resolving a dispute,and this stable and unstable Pakistan funda is all bullcrap propagated mostly by western countries and primarily US,as if we face less jihadi terrorism from a stable Pakistan.The only difference in an unstable Pakistan will be cross border terrorism conducted & manipulated by Lashkar,which is now cross border terrorism conducted by Lashkar & manipulated by ISI.Wake up, we were the target then,we will be the target in the years to come.The only solution is the geographical shift of Pakistan's position on earth which is insane.Thus Pakistan is like a cancer which will continue to remain,nuking will give temporary relief no permanent solution.