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  1. EnlightenedMonk

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    Aircraft carrier vessel at Vizag by 2016: Navy chief

     
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    U.S. Delays Engines to India

    NEW DELHI and WASHINGTON - An abrupt halt to work on installing U.S.-made engines in a new class of Indian Navy frigate in January sparked outrage in India.

    Indian newspapers decried "Washington's penchant for imposing sanctions and restrictions." Rumors blamed an "over-enthusiastic State Department bureaucrat" and an ominous arms export policy review by the new Obama administration. Unnamed officials suggested that the United States had become an unreliable supplier of goods to the Indian military.

    Now officials from both governments say it was all a misunderstanding.

    Frank Ruggiero, acting assistant secretary for political-military affairs at the State Department, called it "a fairly large misunderstanding" over licensing requirements.

    An Indian Defense Ministry official called it an impasse over a technical clause in Indian defense-procurement procedures.

    The problem has been solved, Ruggiero said March 27, stressing there was no review of military sales to India, and none is planned.

    The issue will be fully resolved in the next two weeks, the ministry official said.

    Work on installing the engines has resumed, said Rick Kennedy, a spokesman for General Electric, which manufactured the engines.

    Here's how the three parties explain this peculiar predicament: The Indian Navy is building a new class of frigates, India's first stealthy warships. The first ship, INS Shivalik, which was supposed to begin sea trials this spring, is to be powered by two GE LM2500 gas turbine engines.

    The engines, which are used around the world in warships, ferries, supply ships and cruise vessels, can be exported without a license from the U.S. State Department.

    But when they are sold for military use, they cannot be installed until the State Department approves a type of license called a "technical assistance agreement," or TAA.

    GE did not realize it needed such a license until Jan. 22, Kennedy said. "The law on this is not black and white," but after considerable internal discussion, GE "decided to err on the side of caution." The alternative could mean significant fines, he said.

    There was no stop-work dictum from the State Department, Kennedy said.

    Ruggiero said that GE applied for a TAA until mid-February and the State Department issued the license March 12.

    The wait caused about a two-month delay in engine work on the Shivalik, Kennedy said.

    Resentment in India

    The delay raised resentment in India, where defense and military officials were already chafing at the strings that come attached to many U.S. arms.

    India has resisted End User Monitoring (EUM) agreements, Communications and Information Security memoranda and Logistics Supply Agreements, each of which impose restrictions on what foreign buyers can do with U.S.-made weapons.

    None of those agreements apply to the engine deal, a State Department official said.

    While Indian national security, defense and military officials have consented to EUM strictures, they bristle at being required to permit the physical inspection of weaponry and equipment supplied by the United States.

    Under U.S. law, all nations buying sophisticated American military equipment must agree to various oversight provisions, including seeking Washington's permission before reselling it. Some 90 nations have accepted the conditions.

    Indian and U.S. officials have been discussing EUM provisions for three years, but it has come to a head as U.S. contractors start to make inroads into the Indian market. In mid-February, a key U.S. official met with Indian officials at the Aero India show in Bangalore.

    But for now, progress appears stalled until a new Indian government is elected May 16.

    Alternate Engines?

    As the engine installation delay dragged on, some Indian officials vowed to look for other engine suppliers. In the past, Indian warships have been powered by Russian and Ukrainian gas turbines.

    A senior Indian Navy official said the U.S. license requirement confirmed Indian suspicions that the United States might not be a reliable supplier for the country's military needs.

    But an Indian Defence Ministry official said it is too early to tell whether the engine flap has dented U.S.-Indian defense ties.

    One local analyst agreed, noting that Washington had recently green-lighted the sale of jet-powered Boeing P-8I maritime patrol aircraft.

    Ruggiero said defense trade relations with India remain good and trade is increasing.

    U.S. sales of military items to India amounted to about $1 billion in 2008 and are expected to rise to about $2.5 billion in 2009, he said.

    One troublesome deal "should not be treated as a case that might adversely affect the bilateral defense relations," said Deba Mohanty, senior fellow in security studies at the Observer Research Foundation.

    "One needs to wait for a while to see the fate of some of the future deals which are in the pipeline," he said.

    A Washington-based analyst said the dispute shows that the relationship has entered an interesting new phase.

    "How badly does each side need the other, and how far is each willing to go to realize their partnership? [U.S. President] Barack Obama's election adds a new chapter to the maneuvering between the two states, one in which the expectation by the United States will be on India to meet it more than halfway," said Dhruva Jaishankar, a South Asian affairs analyst with the Brookings Institution.

    Three of the 12 planned Shivalik frigates are under construction at Mazagon. The first was originally planned for launch this month. They are expected to cost $300 million each. They will carry land-attack Klub cruise missiles.

    http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4012420
     
  3. jayadev

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    Indian navy launches patrol vessel
    Measuring 105 meters in length, 12.90 meters in breadth and with a displacement of about 2215 tonnes, the vessel has a top speed of 25 knots.


    Panaji: Indian Navy’s first ever of the new 105 meter class Naval off shore patrol vessel was on Monday launched in the port town of Vasco.
    Chief of Naval Staff, Admiral Sureesh Mehta was the chief guest for the launch of the vessel christened as INS Saryu.
    Measuring 105 meters in length, 12.90 meters in breadth and with a displacement of about 2215 tonnes, the vessel has a top speed of 25 knots.
    Officials stated that the vessel is primarily aimed at meeting the increasing requirement of the Indian Navy for surveillance and accomplishing surface ware fare operation in order to prevent infiltration and transgression of maritime sovereignty.
    The officials said that NOVP is capable of the coastal and offshore patrolling thereby enhancing the security of the nation.
    This vessel is also used for ocean surveillance and monitoring of shipping line of controls, defense of offshore oil installation and other important offshore national assets, officials said.
    The naval officials added that the ship can also be deployed for escorting high value ships and fleet support operations.
    http://www.livemint.com/2009/03/30155650/Indian-navy-launches-patrol-ve.html
     
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    http://www.hindu.com/2009/03/29/stories/2009032954931000.htm

    A new round of naval exercise

    P. S. Suryanarayana

    SINGAPORE: Four ships of the Indian Navy, inclusive of two destroyers, arrived in Singapore over the weekend for an annual maritime exercise with the City-State. The exercise will be followed by India’s participation in China’s first international fleet review at Qingdao in April, it has been officially stated.

    It is further understood that the Indian Navy might later hold an exercise, in the “Malabar series”, with the US off the Japanese coast.

    It is not authoritatively confirmed, at this stage, whether Japan would join any such US-India exercise. However, a top Japanese official told The Hindu that India’s naval vessels would “pay a goodwill visit to Japan” towards the end of April.

    In 2007, the Indian Navy conducted professional exercises with both the US and Japan off the Japanese coast. During a long period of “deployment” in East Asia on that occasion, India held unrelated maritime exercises with Russia and China exclusively.
     
  6. Pintu

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    According to indopedia , Admiral Mehta says that Indian Navy will have 160 warships by 2022. The link and the report follows:


    http://www.indopia.in/India-usa-uk-news/latest-news/536389/National/1/20/1

    Indian navy will have 160 warships by 2022: Admiral Mehta

    Published: March 30,2009

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    Panaji , March 30 Indian Navy aims to be a 160-warship and 300-aircraft strong naval force by 2022, the Chief of Naval staff Admiral Sureesh Mehta said today.
    "We have long term integrated perspective plan which has all the ships that we need to construct right upto 2022. By that time we should be a navy with powerful 160 warships and 300 aircraft,"he said on the sidelines of India&aposs first ever 105-meter class Naval offshore patrol vessel INS Saryu at the port town of Vasco.

    Mehta said that Indian Navy is working out an action plan to augment its fleet strength.

    Post Mumbai terror attacks, Indian navy has given more stress on smaller ships and setting up of structures for better coordination with other mechanism"to ensure peace and tranquility in the ocean around us", he said.

    "The security is through three layers. The outermost layer is managed by Navy, off shore is by Indian Coast Guard and innermost layer has to be managed by state authorities," Admiral Mehta said.

    The Naval Chief said all coastal states have been asked to set up coastal police stations.
     
  7. nitesh

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    http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal...in-two-years-indian-navy-chief_100173319.html

    Russian carrier to arrive in two years: Indian Navy chief
    March 30th, 2009 - 8:52 pm ICT by IANS

    Panaji, March 30 (IANS) Despite “small monetary issues”, the Indian Navy will receive the Russian aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov within two years, a top military commander said Monday.
    “We hope to have the ship in the next two years. There are certain small monetary issues which are being tackled by the government,” Indian Navy chief Admiral Sureesh Mehta said.

    Speaking on the sidelines of a function organised by Goa Shipyard Limited in the port town of Vasco to mark to launch of the largest Indian-built offshore patrol vessel INS Saryu, Mehta said that the process of the carrier’s transfer was “progressing satisfactorily”.

    India and Russia had signed a $1.5 billion deal for the Gorshkov, now renamed INS Vikramaditya, in 2005. Of this, some $900 million was meant for retrofitting the ship, which was mothballed after a crippling blaze in 1995, and the remaining was for a squadron of MiG-29 fighters that are to be deployed on the ship.

    In 2007, Russia unilaterally raised the price by $1.2 billion and is now demanding $2.9 billion. Defence Minister A.K. Antony has repeatedly expressed confidence the issue would be resolved satisfactorily.

    Mehta also spoke of a long-term plan to strengthen the Indian Navy.

    “We are looking at a fleet of 160 warships and 300 aircraft by 2022,” he said.

    Stating that the Indian Navy was a blue water force in its orientation, Mehta stressed the importance of coastal police stations and marine police units to patrol the coast and work in a cohesive manner with the other maritime forces like the Coast Guard.

    This issue has gained added importance in the wake of the Nov 26-29, 2008, Mumbai terror attacks when 10 Pakistani terrorists sneaked into the city via the sea route and spread mayhem that lasted for over 60 hours and claimed the lives of more than 170 people, including 26 foreigners.

    Ajamal Amir Kasab, the lone terrorist captured alive during the carnage, has admitted to being a Pakistani citizen and is currently being tried in a Mumbai court.
     
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    New unit to be set up in Gandhinagar to oversee Coast Guard operations

    New unit to be set up in Gandhinagar to oversee Coast Guard operations

     
  9. Triton

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    Singapore, India Conclude Naval Exercise

     
  10. nitesh

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    http://www.expressindia.com/latest-news/state-to-buy-boats-from-greece-to-patrol-sea/443605/

    Kolkata The state government will purchase 18 boats from Greece to patrol the sea coast. According to a senior government official, two boats will begin operations this month.

    The boats are being requisitioned to enhance the state’s coastal security in the wake of the Mumbai terror attacks on November 26 last year. The boats will to be re-modelled to suit Indian conditions by Central government PSU Garden Reach Shipbuilders Limited.

    A review meeting was held in this connection at Writers’ Building on April 1, presided by state Home Secretary Ardhendu Sen. Top officers of the state police, the Navy and the Coast Guard had also participated in the meeting.

    Apart from the first six coastal police stations, the Central government has sanctioned another three such stations. Two of the first six — Hemnagar and Kishorimohanpur — the first in North 24 Parganas and the second in South 24 Parganas have already begun functioning. The Centre has also sanctioned the setting up of 14 police check-posts along the coast.

    A unit, comprising personnel from the elite naval commando force Marcos and commandos from the state police is coming up near the Kolkata Port. It will take on terror attacks that might be launched through the sea route.

    The state government has already sanctioned around 400 personnel to man coastal police stations, which will be equipped with the latest weapons and gadgets.

    “We are making periodic reviews of the progress made on enhancing coastal security. We hope it will be stronger with the six police stations,” said the home secretary.
     
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    http://www.hindu.com/2009/04/07/stories/2009040758162000.htm

    Facility in Goa to maintain MiG 29 K

    Panaji: Ahead of MiG 29 K’s arrival in India, the facility to maintain and train pilots for this frontline fighter aircraft was inaugurated at the INS Hansa naval base in Goa on Monday.

    Inaugurating the first phase, Vice-Admiral J. J. Bedi, Commander-in-Chief, Western Naval command, said: “This is the first time in my service career of 40 years that I witness construction and availability of major infrastructure project prior to the induction of hardware in the Indian Navy.”
    Training in Russia

    The Indian team, consisting of pilots and maintenance staff, was already in Russia undergoing training and the first batch of four aircraft should be available “with us by middle of this year.”

    He said these frontline aircraft, which will embark on INS Vikramaditya, were a variant of MiG 29 which is meant to fly from an aircraft carrier. —PTI
     
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    A very good move from the Govt. of West Bengal is coming on right time, I guess.

    Thanks for that update Nitesh,

    Regards.
     
  13. Pintu

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    Excellent Pics of Shivalik.

    Thanks for that ,

    Regards.
     
  14. Pintu

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    Nitesh, Mig-29K's are fitted with Variant of Zhuk Radar, isn't that?

    Brother, don't mind, you have posted the same article for consecutive times.

    Regards,

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    Pintu thanks for pointing out, I delted the repeat post. yes right now the radar is PESA later on will have the AESA
     
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    Any idea on the timeframe?
     
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    AFAIK Indian Navy has not revealed any such information...
     
  18. kuku

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    The current radar is slotted array Zhuk-ME not a PESA.

    The only possible changes could be if they negotiate a separate contract, the current one is for 16 planes + option of 30 additional aircraft (by 2015). Any change radar/avionics or for that matter any other component(s) will cause a change in costs, this (change in configuration resulting in change in costs) will not be accommodated for in the original contract and any negotiations will take a lot of time.
     
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    Kuku what is slotted array can you please explain,

    Regards,

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