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JF-17 vs Lone MIG-21 in dog fight, MIG-21 dont have a edge..
But, With BVR like R-77 and good ECM it can kill..
But, With BVR like R-77 and good ECM it can kill..
Yes, it could. Under right circumstances it could also take down a F22, but its chance of getting shot-down is much greater. If there is a one-on-one battle bewteen JF-17 and Mig21 Bison, whether close-range or BVR, I would put every of my pennies on JF-17. The kopyo radar installed on Mig21 has considerably less range than the KLJ-7 does, and PL-12 is according to many sources at least as good as R-77. Currently, integration of JF-17 with PL-12 is approaching completion.JF-17 vs Lone MIG-21 in dog fight, MIG-21 dont have a edge..
But, With BVR like R-77 and good ECM it can kill..
Yes, it could. Under right circumstances it could also take down a F22, but its chance of getting shot-down is much greater. If there is a one-on-one battle bewteen JF-17 and Mig21 Bison, whether close-range or BVR, I would put every of my pennies on JF-17. The kopyo radar installed on Mig21 has considerably less range than the KLJ-7 does, and PL-12 is according to many sources at least as good as R-77. Currently, integration of JF-17 with PL-12 is approaching completion.
Its not yourmig21 anymore its bison now and can take down jf17 in case it would be tejas fighting that tinbag and no doubt Tejas is the best thing as a matter of fact tejas survivability capability makes it a winner against F-16 but yes on the same time am not saying that it will take down phalcon but for sure can escape it.JF-17 vs Lone MIG-21 in dog fight, MIG-21 dont have a edge..
But, With BVR like R-77 and good ECM it can kill..
We got Tejas much better than mig21 or jf-17 .And the seal says Made in India.Can not agree less, before J20 deploy, Chinese actually use mig-21 and it's copy version J7/8 to deal with F-22.
China still is producing a lot of them every year.
Pakistan's Mig-21 also have record that shoot down Mirage2000.
why they use the JF-17(Joint Failure)?
fortunately, China still have more than 1000 mig-21/J7/J8, half of them brand new.
you know China and Pak are sleep in same bed, it is almost free if Pak want them.
How many IAF have, just 500? and old almost can not fly?
India should buy more Mig-21, Chinese version is cheaper but quality is ok, you guys welcome to buy. 20% off.
Again and again I see the idiotic jingoism from my countrymen and their empty rhetoric turning this forum into an Indian version of PDF. I really grow tired of this childish attitude - Ray is right - only fools underestimate their enemy and only fools think that enemy equipment is crap.jf-17 is a joke and will always be a joke.it is a fighter of a beggar nation and it is a downgraded chinese aircraft which itself is downgraded version of other countries fighters.if given a choice i would buy pilatus trainer rather than jf-17.
The Chinese did spend considerable amount of money on the JF-17 development. But they could afford it as a "learning platform" - I am sure it helped them a lot in developing the J-10, and the J-20. Also, they intend to use this as a revenue source for their aircraft manufacturers - by exporting them to other countries with weaker economies - like Pakistan, maybe Bangladesh, Burma, Sri Lanka, Ethiopia etc. That way the Chinese gain a market for their weapons, radar and sundry other equipment too, not to mention strategic presence in those countries in times of need (i.e. war with India).From a practical point of view, the Chinese who have spent billions in the project have no interest of inducting them in large numbers. As far as I see the PAF is the sole user of the aeroplane.
They need something to fight the alient.after reading the above replies, I think that it is stupid for Indian to buy MACA and Su30,after IAF has MIg21 bis.
But it takes a $100Million aircraft to find a target.In enough numbers, even the JF-17 will be a headache for India - remember it does not take a $100 million aircraft to down another $100 million aircraft - it takes one lucky AAM - even if it fired from a $20 million aircraft. More "BANG" for bucks - right?
quantity vs quality. if a jf-17 can be equipped with aesa and bvr capability then it will be as dangerous as any other bvr enabled plane. sighting enemy and then firing a bvr missile may take down any plane with no good protection suite. jf-17 is inducted and is flying( most of the time) and they have the luxury to upgrade which is a big thing.
but unlike many here and common people of our countries, our forces are not taught to underestimate enemy of any shape and size.
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