Indian Lunar Space Probes and Exploration

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  1. Akask kumar

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    yes u are right , the reason curiosity used sky crane method was its weight, the mars atmosphere is so thin that for heavy class lander ,parachute mode of deceleration(through out) is not sufficient , plus the size of parachute have to be way more bigger than what normally used on mars..

    the use of sky crane also omits the necessity of lander . Nasa paved the new way of landing. may be agencies in future will use the same on moon too.it will save mass .

    the scientific instruments that a rover carries is more important than the mass of vehicle.. for instance

    YUTU and CDY2 both carries primarily two scientific instruments.(taking out cameras here)

    YUTU (140 kg)- 1> Ground-penetrating radar 2> Alpha Particle Induced X-ray Spectroscope
    CDY2 rover (25 kg)- 1>Laser induced Breakdown Spectroscope 2> Alpha Particle Induced X-ray Spectroscope

    you can see the difference. the difference in weight is 115 kg .. i dont think the weight is used up by radar . the wight was used in bigger and more solar panels,battery ,communication etc

    So CDY2 is also a good rover designed for shorter life compared with YUTU(whose life crossed expectations)..

    plus CDY2 can do composition,chemical study of Lunar surface better than YUTU ( which is targeted little towards underground mapping ) as it has two scientific instruments for just surface analysis..

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    I'm afraid that's not YuTu rover but a early stage Concept mock-up...it should be a product from Shanghai R&D team lost to the Beijing team..it was displayed later on Shanghai Industry EXPO as a local industry achievement...
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    one Item of the Chang'e 3 mission: filming each other between the Lander and Rover.

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    some GIF about how the Rover was deployed by the Lander

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  3. Indx TechStyle

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    ISRO is planning to set up a telescope on Moon in Long Term to observe space.

    Over that, Chandryaan 2 will survey about Helium 3, an essential energy source, ISRO officials have many times expressed about it.

    Go through the previous pages of thread.

    So, India's long term aim must be setting up laboratories for research and mining on Moon.:)
    Hold your horses and don't be too optimistic. It will not be a rover.:p
    It's a heavy orbiter and officially confirmed now, like India's version of MAVEN. Pictures will be posted when design will be released next space expo.:biggrin2:
    Actually, we had earlier plans to have a heavy orbiter as Mgy-1 but GSLV failed pathetically and ISRO sent a small orbiter, actually a demonstrator given limited capacity of PSLV. Now, with new equipments, Mgy-2 orbiter will go there between 2018-20.

    Don't expect India's Martian Lander Rover before Mangalyaan 3. Don't know about you but I'm happy with decision. I was enough of light missions and look, AS Kiran Kumar heard me.:D
    http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/threads/indian-mission-to-mars.35020/page-41#post-1192025

    http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/threads/indian-mission-to-mars.35020/page-41#post-1192959
     
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    no our rover can do better surface analysis than YUTU despite small and light.. plus this is just a demonstration of soft landing.. later in CDY3 we can do whatever we want (return,little digging) as GSLV MK3 will be operational and trustworthy by then.

    CHINESE are exception here who want to try both orbit insertion and landing on mars in one go in first attempt.. i had warned about this before.. a good example is ESA and Russia joint mission EXOMARS.. which failed at landing. but succeeded in orbiting . the difference here is , they have orbit insertion capability struggling with landing capability while chinese have neither and yet want to try out both..GOOD LUCK TO THEM..
     
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    i always wanted to thank a chinese from long time for proving that MOON is not painted in a monochromatic color rather its somewhat colorful, green,red, greay ,black.. etc color can be seen in many images.. KUDOS for selecting a good sight which was not dusty thereby busting another myth attached to the moon
     
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    With so many small devices, Cdy-2 and Mgy-1 were demonstrators at first place.

    We'll only find something substantial at Cdy-3 (possibly nuclear) and Mgy-2.
     
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    TEAM INDUS
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    ABOUT US

    TEAM MEMBERS
    Rahul Narayan
    Dilip Chabria Sheelika Ravishankar
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    TEAM LEADER:
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    Copyright: GLXP
     
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    India’s First Private Moon Rover Will Launch One Week Before $30m Deadline
    TeamIndus was founded in 2010 to become the first private entity from India to put a rover on the moon by 2017. How is it faring?
    [​IMG]The rover that TeamIndus is building and will hope to operate on the moon’s surface around December 2017. Credit: TeamIndus

    Keeping it simple
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    Rahul Narayan

    Different kinds of failure
    [​IMG]A diagram of the spacecraft that will fly onboard the PSLV rocket and carry the rover. Credit: TeamIndus

    Controlling the narrative
    Before you guys reach at any conclusion, le'me tell you that The Wire is an anti Modi Mag.
     
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    Press Information Bureau
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    01-December-2016 16:43 IST

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    Aerospace startup Team Indus signs launch contract with ISRO[​IMG]Team Indus

    Starting up

    Business model
     
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    MOONSHOTS
    An Indian team will launch the fourth private moon mission seeking the Google Lunar XPrize
    [​IMG]An Indian PSLV rocket launches in 2014.(Reuters/Babu)

    [​IMG]TeamIndus leaders announce their launch contract. (TeamIndus)

    Correction: An earlier version of this article omitted Team Synergy from the list of Lunar XPrize entrants with certified launch contracts.
     
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    ISRO TO TAKE INDIAN PROJECT TO THE MOON & BACK
    By Chetan R, Bangalore Mirror Bureau | Dec 2, 2016, 03.00 AM IST
    [​IMG]TeamIndus has signed up with ISRO and will be the first private Indian company contracting a launch vehicle for a space mission, the first-ever private entity to soft-land on moon.
     
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    So, further missions worldwide are planned.
    First four are under GLXP competition but besides Changé 5, our hero Chandrayaan 2 will be the soonest upcoming Lunar exploration probe by a government space agency.:)
    1. HHK-1 (by Team Indus) (2017)
    2. Astrobotic Technology (2017)
    3. Moon Express (2017, interestingly, it wants to demonstrate mining as well)
    4. SpaceIL
    5. Changé 5 (2017, sample return, China)
    6. Chandryaan 2 (Q1 2018, lander, rover, and sample analyzing)
    7. Changé 4 (Q4 2018, lander rover)
    8. Lunar Flashlight (Q4 2018, USA)
    9. Luanr Ice Cube (Q4 2018)
    10. Luna H-map (Q4 2018)
    11. Skyfire (Q4 2018)
    12. Selene-2 (2019, Japan, lander and rover)
     
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    Lander:
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    Rover:
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    Operator: Axiom Research Labs

    Registered Team: Team Indus, a Google Lunar X Prize team

    Mission type: Lunar Rover

    Proposed Launch date: Q4-2017

    Proposed trajectory: 9 Steps to Moon
    1. G1 – Initial Orbit: 880 x 71,000 km
    2. G2 – 48 hours
    3. G3 – 144 hours
    4. G4 – Lunar Transfer Trajectory
    5. S1 – Initial Lunar orbit with capture burn of 250 seconds
    6. S2 – Orbit lowered to 3500 km apolune
    7. S3 – Parking orbit – 100 x 100 km
    8. S4 – Orbit lowered 12.6 km perilune
    9. Descent Trajectory – braking from 1.7 km/s

    Launch vehicle:
    PSLV operated by ISRO (proposed)

    Launch site:
    SDSC, Sriharikota (proposed)

    Mission duration:
    Flight duration: 30 days
    Surface operations: 10-15 days

    Orbital parameters:
    Earth Inclination : 19.2 degrees
    Moon Inclination: 143 degrees
    Argument of Perigee: 178 degrees

    Delta – V:
    Orbital – 1270 m/s
    Descent – 1940 m/s
    Net – 3210 m/s

    Mass:
    Lift off Mass: ~ 600kgs
    Propellant Mass: ~ 404 kg
    Landed Mass: ~210 kg

    Total Lunar Payload mass: ~ 20kgs

    @Chinmoy @ezsasa
     
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    Experiments (Chandrayaan 2):

    CHACE-2 (CHandra's Atmospheric Composition Explorer-2) on Chandrayaan-2 Orbiter

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    ChaSTE (Chandra’s Surface Thermophysical Experiment)


    RAMBHA (Radio Anatomy of Moon Bound Hypersensitive ionosphere and Atmosphere)

     
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    Wow, lots of big CNC machining centers and lathes in the background of the video. They are not mass producing anything are they? So how do they justify the expense as opposed to outsourcing the manufacturing to another firm?

    BTW, type error in launch date.
     
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    Orbiter High Resolution Camera (OHRC) - National Remote Sensing Centre
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    Here's what I know. Hope it helps.
    Thanks, corrected it.
     
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    India to launch Chandrayaan-2 in early 2018 to search for minerals and water-ice on moon
    The mission will look for, among other things, the abundance of minerals and presence of water-ice on Earth's only natural satellite.[​IMG]
    India to launch Chandrayaan-2 in early 2018 to search for minerals and water-ice on moon. [Representational image] ISRO official website
     
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    Team Indus Announces Launch Contract with ISRO
    Posted by Sandhya Ramesh
    2016/12/01 22:45 UTC
    [​IMG]TeamIndus
    Artist’s impression of the lander and rover on the lunar surface

    The Launch
    [​IMG]TeamIndus
    Trajectory
    [​IMG]TeamIndus
    Mission overview

    The Rover
    [​IMG]TeamIndus
    Design changes, from right to left

    [​IMG]TeamIndus
    The current design of the rover
     

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