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And this gentlemen is why raytheon sponsored the FMBT seminar held at the Oberoi new delhi last year.
Will these upgrade make it into modern take ??? or we better scrap this project and inducted more Arjun tank instead."The upgrade will increase the lethality of the T-72 tanks," Fritz Treyz, vice president, Raytheon (India operations), told Reuters.
I have a feeling that by the time this saga ends both Russians and Americans will be mad as hell and no upgrades will have arrived.Will these upgrade make it into modern take ??? or we better scrap this project and inducted more Arjun tank instead.
probably IA want Combat Ajay standard.Could someone provide an insight into the "updated deadliness index" ? Exactly what does Raytheon plan to upgrade ?
From what i could gather from the net this si what Raytheon and L&T plan to give usCould someone provide an insight into the "updated deadliness index" ? Exactly what does Raytheon plan to upgrade ?
what i would like however is the belowAccording to the proposal submitted earlier this month, in which L&T is the lead contractor, Raytheon will provide infrared imaging sights and electronics to improve the tank’s target accuracy and overall system lethality, the company said in a statement.
Also, it will provide fire control system, sensors and will accomplish final integration along with customer support services.
http://www.business-standard.com/india/news/lt-teams-upraytheon-to-upgrade-t-72-tanks/385961/
The moderna type upgrade would be awesome Urban combat situationsHmmm... so all upgrades are mainly electronic. Thanks for that update.
And yes, a Moderna type upgrade can be awesome, although I'm not much aware about the lethality of its FCSs and imagers.
Rather than buying more Arjun tanks, Indian Army to spend billions on refurbishing outdated T-72s
By Ajai Shukla
Business Standard, 3rd Feb 2010
The Indian Army chief’s dismaying disclosure last month, that India’s tank fleet was largely incapable of fighting at night, highlighted only a part of the problem with the Russian T-72, the army’s main tank. In fact, the T-72 is in far worse shape than General Deepak Kapoor let on.
Another signal of the T-72’s obsolescence was its recent withdrawal, by the army’s Directorate General of Mechanised Forces (DGMF), from next month’s comparative trials with the indigenous Arjun tank. An embarrassed DGMF has realized that, without major refurbishing, the T-72 was not in the Arjun’s class.
But in the army’s long-term planning, the T-72 --- which the more advance T-90 will replace only gradually --- will continue to equip almost half of the army’s 59 tank regiments as far in the future as 2022.
Business Standard has accessed a sheaf of technical reports and funding requests that actually quantify the state of the T-72. Exactly 32 years have passed since the first T-72s arrived in India; army guidelines stipulate 32 years as the service life of a tank. The earliest tanks from the army’s 2418-strong T-72 inventory should have already been retired, making way for a more modern tank, such as the T-90 or the Arjun.
Instead, the DGMF --- longstanding advocates of Russian equipment --- plans to spend Rs 5 crores per T-72, hoping to add another 15-20 years to that tank’s service life by replacing crucial systems, such as its fire control system, main engine and night vision devices.
The military’s Annual Acquisition Plan for 2008-2010 (AAP 2008-10) lists out the cost of modernizing the T-72 fleet as follows:
• New 1000-horsepower engines (identical to the T-90 tank) to replace the T-72’s old 780 horsepower engines. The cost of each engine: Rs 3 crores.
• Thermal Imaging Fire Control Systems (TIFCS) that will allow the T-72 gunners to observe, and fight at night. Each TIFCS will cost Rs 1.4 crores.
• Thermal Imaging (TI) sights to provide T-72 tank commanders with night vision. Each TI sight costs Rs 0.4 crores.
• An auxillary power unit (APU) to generate power for the tank’s electrical systems. Each APU will cost Rs 0.16 crores.
The Rs 5 crore cost of upgrading each T-72 knocks out the argument that the T-72 --- at Rs 9 crores apiece --- is value-for-money. Retrofitting upgraded systems will escalate the cost of the T-72 to Rs 14 crores. In contrast, a brand new Arjun, with a 1500 horsepower engine, state-of-the-art integrated electronics, and the indigenous, widely praised Kanchan armour, can be had for a marginally more expensive Rs 16.8 crores.
“It is folly to stick with Russian tanks despite having developed the Arjun, and the design capability to continuously improve it?” says Lt Gen Ajai Singh, who headed the army’s Directorate of Combat Vehicles before becoming Governor of Assam. “India can tailor the Arjun to our specific requirements and continuously upgrade the tank to keep it state-of-the-art. Why upgrade old T-72s? It is time to bring in the Arjun.”
The T-72’s galloping obsolescence is magnified by the MoD’s failure to overhaul tanks on schedule: some 800 T-72s are years overdue for overhaul. Originally, each T-72 was to be overhauled twice during its service life of 32 years. But as the overhaul agencies --- the Heavy Vehicles Factory, Avadi; and 505 Army Base Workshop, Delhi --- failed to meet their overhaul targets of 70 and 50 tanks respectively, the army decided that one overhaul was good enough. And with even that schedule not implemented, a desperate MoD has approached Indian industry to play a role in overhauling the T-72 fleet.
The total expenditure on the T-72 tank, budgeted for AAP 2008-10, is over Rs 5000 crores. The cost of overhaul has not been accurately determined.
The Tank Ex tale has taken a new twist. Two Tank Ex have been sanctioned for Indian Army T-72 upgrade possibility. Some time back, Frontier India Wrote an article ” Tank Ex, ideal T-72 upgrades. ” The two prototypes are to be tested by the Indian Army for the T-72 upgrades. During DEFEXPO 2010, Larsen & Toubro Limited (L&T) and Raytheon Company announced teaming up in a L&T led proposal submitted this month to upgrade Indian Army T72 tanks.
Tank-Ex is a T-72 chassis with highly reliable Arjun Tank turret and 1000 HP engine. Tank-ex has a higher power to weight ratio of 21 as compared to 20 of a T-72. The weight is expected to be 47 tons against 40 tons of T-72. Tenk-Ex will have a higher firepower with low silhouette compared to the T-72.
Tank-Ex will be capable of 60 Kms speed. Tank-Ex is a Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) made option which was first displayed in During DEFEXPO 2004.
Indian Army plans to upgrade upto 1000 T-72 tanks in the near future. The upgrades are expected to cost $100 million.