Indian Armed Forces' strategy in Afghanistan after US leaves?

[sayareakd]

with uncle going back, Pakistan must be thinking that good old days would be back soon when they had free hand in Afgan, they will also going to say that like Soviet they have send back US.
With Afgan govt want to talk peace with Talibs, uncle giving green signal on this means Talibs might be back in the business or at last something in this line is fear in Afgan govt. I dont think a part from Pak any one like Talibs.

In this new dynamics we have to figure out how best we can serve our interests.
I dont think US will leave Afgan as far as intell and CIA is concern they will keept their foots in the country to moniter situation, plus region is very important to keep an eye on all the countries for them.

 

[SajeevJino]

Why Karzai needs to pull out US soldiers from his Soil...and Why he needs Indians Presence on that Place...??

 

[amoy]

Why Karzai needs to pull out US soldiers from his Soil...and Why he needs Indians Presence on that Place...??

Karzai can't be reelected after 2014.

 

[SajeevJino]

Karzai can't be reelected after 2014.

Last Election US give the President seat to Karzai..and he is Just a Person to sign as Govt.of Afghan orders all of from Obama and his Seneters...and the 2014 Elections Talibans could Be create Trouble in that Region to reestablish their Power..

Question is when India Deploying Forces in Afghan

 

[Ray]

There will be no strategy except the strategy of montionless existence.

Same as there being no indignation from the PM over the beheading of the soldier since he is more interested in Aman Ke Asha and so Afghanistan will slip by India's interest.

 

[t_co]

India should leave Afghanistan when the ISAF departs. A) It is Pakistan's 'home court'; it is very easy for Pakistan to cause pain to any Indian assets there; B) There's no realistic way to move anything into Afghanistan to support whichever faction India ends up supporting (since Afghanistan is bordered by China, Central Asia, Iran, and Pakistan).

 

[SPIEZ]

India should leave Afghanistan when the ISAF departs. A) It is Pakistan's 'home court'; it is very easy for Pakistan to cause pain to any Indian assets there; B) There's no realistic way to move anything into Afghanistan to support whichever faction India ends up supporting (since Afghanistan is bordered by China, Central Asia, Iran, and Pakistan).

India has good relations with Central Asia and Iran. FYI.

The biggest problem is A.

Pak as made Astan it's back court. Probably you should read about jihadism, and it's origin and you will know what we all mean.

The next Astan in line is Pak itself. Hope it comes under someone's control someday.

 

[Sam2012]

Have stategy in LOC first , Armed force has become puppet in hands of Ruling pathetic Govt . Armed force has to have a bigger say in foreign policy first then u can have stategy in afghanistan

 

[t_co]

India has good relations with Central Asia and Iran. FYI.

The biggest problem is A.

Pak as made Astan it's back court. Probably you should read about jihadism, and it's origin and you will know what we all mean.

The next Astan in line is Pak itself. Hope it comes under someone's control someday.

What literature I've read about jihadism suggests it came about in the 1980s, from US and Saudi money channeled through the Pakistani ISI to fund the mujaheddin in Afghanistan against the Soviets. Prior to that, most Muslim terrorist movements (the PLO and PFLP) were quasi-secular in nature.

It is possible for Pakistan to fall apart and become another Afghanistan, but India shouldn't hope for it. That would mean Pakistani nukes falling into the hands of those who view martyrdom as a logical method of creating a political point. If LeT could sneak a dozen guys ashore in speedboats and cause havoc in Mumbai, imagine what they could do if they got their hands on a nuke or two--and if Pakistan were under international occupation, how could India justify a nuclear response? India would get nuked for free.

 

[no smoking]

India has good relations with Central Asia and Iran. FYI.

The biggest problem is A.

Having a good relations doesn't mean you can borrow a channel to send your man, supplies and money.

The biggiest problem is Russia and China instead of Pakistan. Russia saw Afghanistan as a part of its influence sphere while China regards Afghanistan as a new resources supplier and market! No one wants this country back to civil war again. The best way to reduce the potential conflict is to reduce the number of players. So, Russia and China will try their best to minimize india's influence.

Iran and Central Asian countries may have good relationship with india, but they rely on Russia and China far more than India.

 

[Yusuf]

Having a good relations doesn't mean you can borrow a channel to send your man, supplies and money.

The biggiest problem is Russia and China instead of Pakistan. Russia saw Afghanistan as a part of its influence sphere while China regards Afghanistan as a new resources supplier and market! No one wants this country back to civil war again. The best way to reduce the potential conflict is to reduce the number of players. So, Russia and China will try their best to minimize india's influence.

Iran and Central Asian countries may have good relationship with india, but they rely on Russia and China far more than India.

The Afghans themselves want Indians. Afghans know what help china has been to pak and will not become a client stare of china. Tgats tgere history. Never have they submitted to anyone

 

[Daredevil]

Afghan Army, Afghan intelligence and security forces should be supported by monetary, arms and training support. They should be totally autonomous and take help from like-minded countries to kick the Pakistanis and the Taliban out of Afghanistan. With a large Pashtoon population in Pakistan, it will be posible for Afghan Intelligence to undertake covert operations against Pakistan if it play coy in Afghanistan and try to destabilise it. US should continue its drone strikes aimed at Afghan Taliban and leave TTP alone for a while.

All the while, other instituions of Afghanistan should be strengthened towards a modern nation as it was before US/Pakistanis played mischief.

 

[Ray]

Th Taliban are not really interested in governance.

They are interested in power and that through by repressive means using conservatism of Islam to indicate that Islam is pure and without frivolous baggage and that can be very regressive and unforgiving.

Since Islam cannot be questioned, the Afghans will fall in line and the venue of the Terrorist factory of the world will shift from Pakistan to Afghanistan.

It will not be good for the world or for China or India.

China will have to face the brunt for any action it takes in Xinjiang to suppress the Uighurs, whose fundamentalism will get a new high since, unlike Pakistan, Afghanistan has no law as such that can nominally hold these terrorist at bay.

It will also affect all countries trying to mine Afghanistan's resources.

 

[SPIEZ]

Having a good relations doesn't mean you can borrow a channel to send your man, supplies and money.

The biggiest problem is Russia and China instead of Pakistan. Russia saw Afghanistan as a part of its influence sphere while China regards Afghanistan as a new resources supplier and market! No one wants this country back to civil war again. The best way to reduce the potential conflict is to reduce the number of players. So, Russia and China will try their best to minimize india's influence.

Iran and Central Asian countries may have good relationship with india, but they rely on Russia and China far more than India.

Indian forces are already there.

India forces are also planning to stay there after US withdrawal.

Plus, having good relations mean, lending support when it is required.

I m sure the reliance on 1 state or 2 states will not be any problem.

 

[rock127]

Afghan Army, Afghan intelligence and security forces should be supported by monetary, arms and training support. They should be totally autonomous and take help from like-minded countries to kick the Pakistanis and the Taliban out of Afghanistan. With a large Pashtoon population in Pakistan, it will be posible for Afghan Intelligence to undertake covert operations against Pakistan if it play coy in Afghanistan and try to destabilise it. US should continue its drone strikes aimed at Afghan Taliban and leave TTP alone for a while.

All the while, other instituions of Afghanistan should be strengthened towards a modern nation as it was before US/Pakistanis played mischief.

Afgans are frustrated since Pakis are using it as its backyard and now with some support from US/NATO not hesitant taking on Pakis and raiding inside Pak.India needs to support Afganistan so that they can establish a country on its own and not a backyard of Pakis.

29 Pakistanis tortured by Afghan forces

 

[no smoking]

The Afghans themselves want Indians. Afghans know what help china has been to pak and will not become a client stare of china. Tgats tgere history. Never have they submitted to anyone

Of course they want india there. If possible, they want every big powers there, which means they could have a lot options.

Yes Afghans know what help China can provid and what kind of return China expects. They are happy about the deal offered by Chinese. That is why they sign the big contracts with China.
That is also why you indians want to come in: you want to get a share for yourself.

 

[no smoking]

Indian forces are already there.
India forces are also planning to stay there after US withdrawal.

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With that insignificant number, nobody cares.

Plus, having good relations mean, lending support when it is required.

I m sure the reliance on 1 state or 2 states will not be any problem.

That depends who is the other side. If China and Russia require these countries to block the channel for indian supplies, do you think they will still lend their support to India?

 

[SPIEZ]

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With that insignificant number, nobody cares.



That depends who is the other side. If China and Russia require these countries to block the channel for indian supplies, do you think they will still lend their support to India?

Both your statements prove to be an oxymoron. You seem to be obsessed by the fact of India being in Astan.

If we have insignificant numbers, why bother? We will take care of it.

And I m sure we will worry about Chinese route when we really want.

As I have specified before. India has good relations with Central Asia and Russia, any of these can prove to be a good supply route.

 

[amoy]

As I have specified before. India has good relations with Central Asia and Russia, any of these can prove to be a good supply route.

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[Ray]

Governance in Afghanistan is a mirage.

One wonders if it is a country in its real sense.

It appears that it is but a multitude of tribal entity with individual fiefdoms who are autonomous and answerable to their own Chief of the clan.

They conclave when it suits the tribal fiefs and then disperse to go their own way.

It will take great effort to educate them to understand what a State is all about and why it is essential.