Discussion in 'Strategic Forces' started by .v0id, Feb 12, 2009.
INSAS wont be issued for marines..for that matter we had a huge stock pile of AK rifles...
Days of INSAS are over.....time to move with a new design and new technology for the main weapon for the jawan!
INSAS is a cocktail of FN FAL, GALIL and AK.
Indeed, INSAS is gone. There is a new RFI for 400000 rifles for IA this year.
why cant get into a tech transfer for the new rifle and start producing them here in india?
meanwhile the DRDO, or the private companies like TATA, M&M or any other, need to get into joint ventures to hone skills about private defence industry in india.
in ever Defence Expo, we are shown the best of the world in terms of equipment and hardware, but we hardly get any real action being taken to bring the best of the equipment into india.
i havent felt any rifle as good as the old ISHAPORE/FN FAL!
anyway back to the topic, i would be happy to see a marine brigade, maybe two!
"The orange vests are for safety of the soldiers. We don't want one drowning when there are 3000 people involved in the exercise now do we."
Don't tell me some of these soldiers don't know how to swim. If that's the case then they don't have any business being a part of an amphibious assault force. The whole idea of these exercises is to simulate combat scenarios in the most realistic environment possible to train these soldiers. How can they be trained so effectively when their training is a lifesaving training exercises? Pathetic really.
Umm, if the ship capsizes in the middle of the ocean, even Michael Phelps won't be able to make it to the shore alive. They aren't training in a 100 ft swimming pool, genius.
"Umm, if the ship capsizes in the middle of the ocean, even Michael Phelps won't be able to make it to the shore alive. They aren't training in a 100 ft swimming pool, genius."
Nobody's disputing that these soldiers are carrying heavy weapons and personal supplies load that's why they need floatation vests. But they are not excused from being not able to swim, especially if the military is to set up a Marine coprs (a service that's essentially married to amphibious assault). More importantly, these orange vests look ridiculous in an amphibious assault exercise which aim is to simulate the assault in the most realistic scenario possible. I don't think it is serving the interests of the soldiers to be experienced (at least theoritically) in this kind of assault. Besides, by purchasing these lifesaving orange vests don't you think the military is spending an unnecessary amount of money by buying 2 sets of life vests for its assault forces?
(Cont.)... 1 set orange vests so that those poor soldiers will not drown in knee deep water (or near the shore in case the landing craft capsizes) and the real camouflaged vests for the real deal.
Almost in every military, Soldiers and officer goes through swimming courses, Now it AMC or Infantry..
Btw, The exercise is mainly a demonstration exercise, Its not a fully-fledged Marine / Naval Infantry brigade..
Being Orange vest is right, During any amphibious assault the life vest stays till u are over or in water, Once on ground u dismount it, Logic is simple its easier to spot Suriver over green and Blue water from miles away compare to camo life vests, This vest are for rescue hence they are in yellow and Orange..
What was u saying ?
Its not that bad this rifle many soldiers i spoke to like its range but yes INSAS definitely appears to be an outdated gun in 2011 btw what happened to the Trichulli rifle
Trichulli rifle`s barrel was longer, I am sure it range and accuracy is improved, as the sights are from sig and insas..
Insas is good but lack mordanisation like LML Adrino..
Insas will remain for another a decade or more but Marine units will be issued AK or any M43 based Rifle ( Good in marine enviorment ), Its possible they might issue AK-103 as Marcos using it too..
About time too. Also, one marine brigade is a good start, but not enough. India needs a whole Marine Division with about 15,000 troops. Also adequate capability in terms of LPDs, amphibious tanks and shore-based artillary.
Amphibious Training Exercise Habu Nag 2010..
Amphibious Training Exercise Habu Nag 2010 In East China Sea..
Navy orders 8 amphibious vessels
Navy orders 8 amphibious vessels
Working on its plan to sharpen its amphibious operations capabilities, the Navy signed a Rs. 2,100 crore contract with the defence public sector undertaking Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers (GRSE), Kolkata for construction of 8 Landing Craft Utilities (LCUs).
The government had recently cleared the plan for construction of these vessels and the Navy signed the contract on Thursday under a plan that envisages delivery of the first ship in 35 months, Navy spokesperson Cdr. P.V.S. Satish said here.
The Hindu : News / National : Navy orders 8 amphibious vessels
3 years to build an LCU, they must be waiting for the LHPs to put them in.
3 years to build an LCU?
This crafts should be, and is capable of being, built within 6 months!
Delivery of the first ship in 35 months ?
GoI ne kasam jo kha rakhi hai , " Hum nahin sudhrenge " .
Its a trick, after completing these vessels in 3 years GRSE will proudly say that they have done before the schedule. But any normal shipyards can easily finish these within a year.
Also, why does this order cost $500 million? That would make each LCU $62 million.
What is the cost of LCU which France operates ?
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