Indian Air Force: News & Discussions

[Hydra3]

If it was a full scale air war, paf would not stand a chance. The escalation ladder has been highly tilted, and essentially communicated that all responses will be kinetic and inside adversaries territory. loc troops getting advanced imaging systems, and firepower for the past two years.
The armed forces are equipping more standoff weaponry than ever before. This is what was missing so many years.
Tell you what. If there was any other govt in place, they would not even have the balls to mate the Brahmos to su30 platforms. Fact. That standoff capability is a game changer in all its sense that folks cannot underestimate enough.

All the weaponary is useless if we are not fighting, when we have the legitimate reason for an attacks. Feb 27 is a valid reason for us to go for full scale. Why modi didn't do that? Either he may be thinking that feb26 enough to get enough vote for the coming election or we may not be prepared for a full-scale.
Brahmos land version is morethan enough for pakistan, mki mated with brahmos is an added advantage.

 

[abhay rajput]

All the weaponary is useless if we are not fighting, when we have the legitimate reason for an attacks. Feb 27 is a valid reason for us to go for full scale. Why modi didn't do that? Either he may be thinking that feb26 enough to get enough vote for the coming election or we may not be prepared for a full-scale.
Brahmos land version is morethan enough for pakistan, mki mated with brahmos is an added advantage.

Any full scale attack on Pakistan is useless
. Our first act of war should be to destroy there nuclear missiles with tactical nuclear weapons.. there should be a big enough reason for us to do that in the first place and Feb 27 wasn't even close to that. Don't think we haven't prepared for any such scenarios in the past 20 years. Pakistan at its best don't have many missiles near nuclear warheads storage sites... They also don't have more than 10 storage sites.. probably 7... The problem here is that if we want to be sure then we have to use tactical warheads which is in itself a big decision... Once there nukes are gone, they will surrender

 

[Sridhar_TN]

Do not expect enemy to fight the battle on our terms. They may have used 1fighter or 100 fighter based on the capacity. You want said that since 24 jets involved in that attack we should not retaliate?

What the actual fuck are you talking about? You’re not understanding the message that is being conveyed and drawing bizzare conclusions.
Paf used most of their potent fighters for that mission, and still couldn’t achieve results. That’s is what’s being said there. Jeez man

 

[Sridhar_TN]

All the weaponary is useless if we are not fighting, when we have the legitimate reason for an attacks. Feb 27 is a valid reason for us to go for full scale. Why modi didn't do that? Either he may be thinking that feb26 enough to get enough vote for the coming election or we may not be prepared for a full-scale.
Brahmos land version is morethan enough for pakistan, mki mated with brahmos is an added advantage.

What do you mean fighting. Just blindly throw fists in the air and shoot at stuff? Is that what you call fighting? Fuck! That’s some immature shit.
do you think the worlds such an open place now that anyone can fight anyone whenever they want? Do you go for a full scale war or use cover tactics. Like lighting up the LOC everyday? The amount of casualties at the loc is building up. Everyday.
Tell me this boy wonder, do you think the INC would have even considered Balakot, let alone full scale war?

 

[Sridhar_TN]

Oh god, first A5 test was carried out in 2012, 2 years prior to the election. Do you think it has anything to with election? And did MMS came in to the national TV as addressing the nation? No.. media has announced it and later it came through mms as a he has congratulated the men behind the test. Where modiji announced it as a national emergency, big difference. You need a working impartial brain to see the difference. Such processing capability lacks with bhakths.

There is no relationship between balakot & 370 removal. If you are saying otherwise, thenyou are indirectly supporting pakistani view on pulwama attack that it was executed by india. And i will give credit to Mr Amit shah for with drawing the 370, the much needed action was promised many times befor bjp. They didn't do from2014-19 time frame. I aooreciate shah & present bjo regime for 370 withdrwal.
Where did i said that india threat pak with nuke? I said after feb 27 india didn't retaliate, retaliation doesn't means that nuclear strike fool.
I said the word " multiple repoert".

Since the PAF had targeted military installations on the 27th of February (a day after India struck the Jaish-e-Mohammed camp near Balakot), the Pakistan Army had now become a legitimate target and had their strikes been successful, we would have put a considerable weight of attack on their forward brigades,'' Dhanoa said during a discussion on 'Understanding The Message of Balakot' in Chandigarh.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.econ...-chief-bs-dhanoa/amp_articleshow/72662367.cms

There is a saying in kerala "its easy to convince a monkey than convincing a sankhi "

You’re the most immature fucknut that I’ve come across. Assume modi isn’t in place. Would you talk like this? Nope. You would be all for peace and stability. Because the INC would not have the balls to take any response. Where was your fucking outrage when 2008 happened. You’re just another hypocritical POS patti. Go suck into your CCP propaganda you fucking sellout.

Go back to Kerala and say this: “it’s easier to brainwash a chutiya, than try to convince a sanghi”.
afterall, it’s fucktards like you who love branding ppl and naming them sanghis and Bhakts, because ppl disagree with you. That’s all. You don’t listen to logic or reason. Just blindly herded like sheep. You folks are the cause of downfall
In society. It’s ok to question modi or any other leader. Lots of ppl disagree with modi for a variety of reasons. That’s acceptable.
But folks like you, who outright brand ppl with names like bhakts ir sanghis And just want to hate on modi suck!

 

[Sridhar_TN]

All the weaponary is useless if we are not fighting, when we have the legitimate reason for an attacks. Feb 27 is a valid reason for us to go for full scale. Why modi didn't do that? Either he may be thinking that feb26 enough to get enough vote for the coming election or we may not be prepared for a full-scale.
Brahmos land version is morethan enough for pakistan, mki mated with brahmos is an added advantage.

What the ACTUAL FUCK?? You clearly DO NOT UNDERSTAND the concept of long range standoff weapons. mating the brahmos is an added advantage?? It increases the range by almost 200-300 miles!! And it can be launched from anywhere depending upon the sukhois travel time!
Mating the brahmos to sukhoi sends a political signal across the region akin to that of testing an ICBM. Meaning: you have extremely potent standoff weapons. You need balls to do that. Because, there will be responses from the surrounding region aka CHINA: politically and diplomatically.
Pakistan is not at the top of the threat list anymore.

Clear as mud?

 

[IndianHawk]

Any full scale attack on Pakistan is useless
. Our first act of war should be to destroy there nuclear missiles with tactical nuclear weapons.. there should be a big enough reason for us to do that in the first place and Feb 27 wasn't even close to that. Don't think we haven't prepared for any such scenarios in the past 20 years. Pakistan at its best don't have many missiles near nuclear warheads storage sites... They also don't have more than 10 storage sites.. probably 7... The problem here is that if we want to be sure then we have to use tactical warheads which is in itself a big decision... Once there nukes are gone, they will surrender

They may already be nukeless. Saudi may have taken back their investment fearing India might destroy it all. That's the chatter in the air. Don't expect me to reply or explain. Lol.

 

[WolfPack86]

Mig-29UPG prepped for Astra BVRAAM integration
Indian Air Force(IAF) Top Brass has decided to integrate India’s locally developed Beyond Visual range Air-to-Air missile Astra Mk1 with the 60 odd fleet of upgraded Mig-29UPG Air Superiority fighter jet after IAF started receiving Limited serial production batch of the Astra Missile for its front-line jets like Sukhoi-30MKI. IAF had placed orders for 50 Astra Mk1 BVRAAMS with a range of 100km with DRDO and now plans to order around 200+ missile in bulk for Sukhoi-30MKI and Mig-29UPG initially and then later it will feature in other jets in the IAF fleet. LCA-Tejas Mk1A and Mirage-2000 fighter jets are other fighter aircraft in the IAF fleet which will get Astra Mk1 BVRAAMS from 2023 onwards. The plan is to arm the front line Air Superiority fighter jets like Sukhoi-30MKI and Mig-29UPG in batches and bring it to other fighter jets.
https://idrw.org/mig-29upg-prepped-for-astra-bvraam-integration/#more-223688

 

[Sridhar_TN]

Mig-29UPG prepped for Astra BVRAAM integration
Indian Air Force(IAF) Top Brass has decided to integrate India’s locally developed Beyond Visual range Air-to-Air missile Astra Mk1 with the 60 odd fleet of upgraded Mig-29UPG Air Superiority fighter jet after IAF started receiving Limited serial production batch of the Astra Missile for its front-line jets like Sukhoi-30MKI. IAF had placed orders for 50 Astra Mk1 BVRAAMS with a range of 100km with DRDO and now plans to order around 200+ missile in bulk for Sukhoi-30MKI and Mig-29UPG initially and then later it will feature in other jets in the IAF fleet. LCA-Tejas Mk1A and Mirage-2000 fighter jets are other fighter aircraft in the IAF fleet which will get Astra Mk1 BVRAAMS from 2023 onwards. The plan is to arm the front line Air Superiority fighter jets like Sukhoi-30MKI and Mig-29UPG in batches and bring it to other fighter jets.
https://idrw.org/mig-29upg-prepped-for-astra-bvraam-integration/#more-223688

Has the Astra mk1 been fully tested and ready for induction?

 

[Aniruddha Mulay]

Has the Astra mk1 been fully tested and ready for induction?

As of 2020, it has completed it's user trials and is ready for mass induction.

 

[Sridhar_TN]

As of 2020, it has completed it's user trials and is ready for mass induction.

Wow. Looks like it’s finally ready

 

[Neeraj Mathur]

I have a question about In-flight refueling of helicopters.

i have seen Chinooks perform in flight refueling. Any other helicopter in our fleet be in army or air force or navy that can perform In-flight Refueling.

 

[Poseidon]

Damn. So shocking this is that we used unsecure radios and datalinks.

 

[IndianHawk]

Wow. Looks like it’s finally ready

It's already in limited series production of 50 missile. Order of 200+ will be placed later.

 

[bhramos]

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[WolfPack86]

IAF’s Il-78MKI Aerial Tankers to get new Engines and Avionics and additional AWACS
As per acquisition planned by the airforce for the year 2020-21, IAF plans to upgrade avionics of the Six Il-78MKI aerial refueling tanker based on the Il-76 strategic air-lifter and also re-engine them with the modern Aviadvigatel PS-90A-76 engine thus replacing the original Aviadvigatel D-30KP2 engines currently powering them. IAF also plans to procure Two more Israeli EL/W-2090 airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) radar system mounted on the Il-76 A-50 heavy air-lifter to supplement its current fleet of 3 AEW&C Radar of the same system But it is not confirmed if it will be based on Surplus stock of air-frame to be sourced from Ukraine as originally planned, or will be based on Il-76MD-90A which is Russian version currently produced at the new production line located in Aviastar’s facility in Ulyanovsk, Russia. IAF also operates 17 Il-76MDs Transport Aircraft which were procured in the early ’80s and have been showing signs of aging and will likely get new modern avionics soon, but it is not clear if they will be getting new PS-90A-76 engines. 3 Il-76 A-50 AEW&C will only get upgraded avionics since they are already powered by the Aviadvigatel PS-90A-76 engines Russian Ilyushins over the years, have proved to be reliable and effective heavy-lift aircraft in India but now have been sidelined due to maintenance downtime and lack of spares and due to the supply of Modern and New 11 C-17 Globemaster III strategic transport aircraft to India by the United States but still, IAF plans to operate at least the older Transport fleet for next 15 years after their upgrades.
https://idrw.org/iafs-il-78mki-aeri...nd-avionics-and-additional-awacs/#more-223706

 

[Poseidon]

IAF needs it's own western publicist, Pak has got Alan Warnes and China has Rupprecht Deino.

 

[WolfPack86]

Pandemic shadow on defence industry deals
The mounting anxiety and steadfast focus on the proliferating coronavirus pandemic has clearly eclipsed the assortment of material contracts that India’s Ministry of Defence (MoD) has confirmed over the past fortnight, alongside numerous others which are imminent.

Starting in late February, when the corona contagion was incipient, the MoD inked a $2.1-billion tender with TAIS, a consortium of five Turkish shipbuilders, to design and build five 45,000-tonne fleet support vessels (FSV) for the Indian Navy in collaboration with the state-owned Hindustan Shipbuilders Limited (HSL).

The unanticipated and somewhat intriguing deal followed months of tension between India and Turkey over diplomatic support Ankara had offered to Islamabad in opposing Delhi’s revocation of Article 370 in Kashmir last August. Furthermore, the MoD’s Vigilance Department too had objected to HSL’s collaborative agreement with TAIS on ‘security considerations’.


It had maintained that some of TAIS’ associates were engaged in warship-building programmes for the Pakistan navy, like corvettes, and support for its submarine fleet. The MoD also asserted that in the event of TAIS being awarded the FSV tender, its personnel would be based at HSL’s shipyard in Vishakhapatnam that neighbours the classified Ship Building Centre where the Indian Navy’s nuclear submarines programme is located, thereby posing a ‘grave’ security threat.

But the FSV contract was inexplicably signed following clearances, not only by the Ministry of External Affairs but also the MoD’s vigilance department. One explanation, albeit feeble, that is being offered in military circles for the FSV deal is that the Indian Navy had managed to ‘neutralise’ both these trepidations.

It had reportedly argued that if its already deferred FSV programme were to be delayed further, its future plans to sustain platforms deployed in the strategically critical Indian Ocean region would be operationally jeopardised, as it would be unable to provide them essentials like fuel, supplies and repair facilities. An advance 15 per cent payment of the around $31 million to TAIS is due within the mandated 45 days of the deal being inked or around mid-April.

Thereafter, on March 18, the MoD approved the $5.25-billion procurement of 83 indigenously designed Mk1A upgraded Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) for the Indian Air Force (IAF). Official sources said the tender for 73 Mk1A single-seat fighters and 10 dual-seat trainers, designed by the Aeronautical Development Agency and manufactured by Hindustan Aeronautics Limited in Bengaluru, would be signed imminently.

The following day — March 19 — the MoD signed a $117.3-million contract with Israel Weapon Industries (IWI) for 16,749 Negev NG-7 7.62x51m light machine guns for the Indian Army under its Fast Track Procedure. Like the earlier FSV deal, this one too entails a $1.75-million transfer to IWI by early May.

Around the same time, the MoD also concluded negotiations with the Ordnance Factory Board (OFB) to acquire 118 upgraded variants of the indigenously developed Arjun Mk1A main battle tank (MBT) for the Indian Army for an estimated $889.9 million. Official sources said that placing the ‘order of intent’ with the OFB’s Heavy Vehicles Factory at Avadi for the Mk1A MBTs that feature 72 improvements, including 14 major ones, over the Mk1 model, would be ‘concluded imminently’ by the MoD.

Alongside, the MoD is currently poised to sign the $550-million deal with Abu Dhabi’s Caracal International for 93,895 CAR 816 5.56mm close quarter battle carbines that has been in the pipeline since late 2018. This too would mean an advance of $82.5 million to the UAE company sometime soon.

The MoD is also fast-tracking the $480.5-million purchase of 10 additional Russian Kamov Ka-31 Helix airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) helicopters to coincide with the commissioning of INS Vikrant, the Indian Navy’s indigenously designed aircraft carrier in 2021.

Dmitry Shugaev, Director of the Russian Federal Service for Military Technical Co-operation (FSVTS), confirmed the Indian Navy’s intentions to the Interfax news agency on March 19, when he said that Moscow had received an ‘appeal’ from India for the Ka-31s, but declined to elaborate.

The proposed Ka-31 acquisition would be a ‘follow-on’ order to at least 12 similar platforms that have been in the Indian Navy service for some time. Only cost and delivery schedule negotiations and final project clearance by India’s Cabinet Committee on Security remain to be completed before the deal is signed.

It could be argued that despite the coronavirus pandemic, building India’s sinews of war cannot wait, and, hence, postponement or deferment of materiel tenders is not an option. Bolstering this thesis in military circles is the argument that many of these deals have been in the pipeline for long, reaching fruition only at the present, dreadful juncture.

But in light of the impending apocalypse, it is only appropriate to question whether such procurements worth billions of dollars are downright egregious at this juncture, or could they not have been postponed and the large amounts involved, committed more purposefully to fighting the pandemic. In short, such financial profligacy in acquiring military kit presently is simply appalling and undoubtedly distressing.

Meanwhile, like all other industrial, commercial and financial activity worldwide, the defence industry too will be battered by the virus. Writing recently in The Diplomat, the online international news magazine, defence consultant Arjun Sreekumar warned that global defence manufacturing facilities and supply chains and business development plans could well be negatively affected, as demand for materiel and related services diminished. He writes that defence budgets of most countries would be adversely hit as they shored up their healthcare spending. Consequently, with demand declining, defence companies would need to determine whether they trimmed their workforces at the risk of losing capable staff, or diverted their research and development budgets to paying salaries, thereby losing their technological edge.

“Defence companies must work on future-proofing themselves and must be prepared with answers to such questions in order to deal with the uncertainties stemming from shocks caused by the pandemic,” Sreekumar added.
https://www.defencenews.in/article/Pandemic-shadow-on-defence-industry-deals-810005

 

[JBH22]

This tanker deal with turkey will one day bite Indian defence officials in the ass. Had it been taken by UPA I would understand, but the present government this is unbelievable.

 

[rohit b3]

This tanker deal with turkey will one day bite Indian defence officials in the ass. Had it been taken by UPA I would understand, but the present government this is unbelievable.

I try to keep away from political inclinations on this website , but i need to finally open my mouth.
Parrikar is the only person single handedly supported the major indigenous projects.
Ever since Parrikar left, i have not heard of a single major Indian defence deal except a 114 Dhanush...puny numbers if you ask me.
US is getting Billions of Dollars in Defence deals.
Russia, offcourse billions of dollars.
Then No one :
Indian armed forces : Lets buy crap from Israel
And now Turkey apparently ..
Arjun deal? No
LCH Deal? No
Tejas Deal? No.
HTTP40? No.
And i can go on.

NDA is better than UPA when it comes to defence. But the level the bhakts put it at are delusional .