India's Self-Reliant Missile Journey

[LETHALFORCE]

LF i was talking about cruise missile............................................. Dr. Kalam has said about turning SAM for cruise or ballistic missile, Prahaar is one such missile, Akash has range of 35 km.

We have so many ramjet missiles from Russia Klubs,Brahmos,Moskit,SA-6 etc... If we are now
working on scramjets and producing Akash 100% indigenously as well as our own seekers I
have no doubts about India having ramjet technology.

 

[Armand2REP]

we have ramjet tech with Akash it was master successfully and ours is solid fuel missile. So if you guys see a long range version of ramjet version with same or better tech then brahmos then dont be surprised. We already developed navigational equipment for Brahmos, so the tech is within our reach for above 300km range.

Akash only has a range 35km and on a missile much bigger than the 500km ASMP-A.

 

[sayareakd]

Akash only has a range 35km and on a missile much bigger than the 500km ASMP-A.

we are discussing Ram jet tech for India not missile in particular and their comparison.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Astra redesign paves way for Indian ramjet AAM - Jane's Missiles and Rockets

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[SPIEZ]

Akash only has a range 35km and on a missile much bigger than the 500km ASMP-A.

If I m not wrong ASMP-A is an air launched missile having a range varying from 150km~ 400km, isn't it the additional momentum and altitude that gives it the extra range ?

 

[trackwhack]

Akash only has a range 35km and on a missile much bigger than the 500km ASMP-A.

Once again Armand, go easy. Both the ASMP and ASMP-A are air launched missiles, which is why you get that range. And we are still talking sub 300 km range and sub Mach 3. You are no where close to hypersonic speeds. On the other hand India with the Shauya has already demonstrated hypersonic speeds. Please dont give me bull like the Shaurya is a ballistic missile. The Shaurya's peak altitude is 50 KM, compare that to an IRBM's with a 2K range peak altitude. Do you even know what the Shaurya's flight path looks like?

Before 2015, DRDO should have a Mach 6+ cruise missile built solely on indigenous technologies. France mostly wont, you just do not have the research funds to run such a program and neither do you have a need. But anyway I am not going to be arrogant enough to make a prediction like you based on what is on paper. Only time will tell.

p.s. Ok, we bought the Rafale. It only means you made a pretty good plane, it does not mean France owns the defense world. At best you guys are peddling technology that is one gen. behind state of the art.

 

[Godless-Kafir]

p.s. Ok, we bought the Rafale. It only means you made a pretty good plane, it does not mean France owns the defense world. At best you guys are peddling technology that is one gen. behind state of the art.

One year behind? Its a generation behind F-22.

 

[trackwhack]

One year behind? Its a generation behind F-22.

Haaa-Ha, beat you to the edit button

 

[Armand2REP]

If I m not wrong ASMP-A is an air launched missile having a range varying from 150km~ 400km, isn't it the additional momentum and altitude that gives it the extra range ?

ASMP-A is 500km, being air launched does give it more range using the energy expended to get into the air. Even if you launched Akash from the air, which you can't, the range at most could only double to 70km It is two different leagues in technology. Akash missile is really just a clone of the Kub.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

ASMP-A is 500km, being air launched does give it more range using the energy expended to get into the air. Even if you launched Akash from the air, which you can't, the range at most could only double to 70km It is two different leagues in technology. Akash missile is really just a clone of the Kub.

Akash is closer to SA-6 than Klub.

 

[Armand2REP]

Akash is closer to SA-6 than Klub.

Kub

Akash

 

[SPIEZ]

ASMP-A is 500km, being air launched does give it more range using the energy expended to get into the air. Even if you launched Akash from the air, which you can't, the range at most could only double to 70km It is two different leagues in technology. Akash missile is really just a clone of the Kub.

Wasn't Akash made for a completely different purpose. Doesn't this is a way be similar to comparing Apples to oranges ?

 

[Kunal Biswas]

Akash missile is really just a clone of the Kub.

It just look like, But dimensions are not the same..

Propulsion is same but guidance is very different, So its not a clone or copy..

 

[sayareakd]

if looks is all that matters, then every missile and rocket would be same.

 

[trackwhack]

Akash is closer to SA-6 than Klub.

Hi LF, Armand mentioned Kub not Klub. The Kub and SA-6 are the same so both of you are correct.

However like Kunal pointed out there are many differences between Kub and Akash.

 

[Armand2REP]

Wasn't Akash made for a completely different purpose. Doesn't this is a way be similar to comparing Apples to oranges ?

Tell that to sayareakd, he is the one trying to equate Akash ramjet tech to future hypersonic missiles.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

ramjet tech to future hypersonic missiles.

He means Ramjet tech, PJ-10 use ramjet to push it to mach-3..

 

[Armand2REP]

It can be, PJ-10 use ramjet to push it to mach-3..

India doesn't make Brahmos ramjet. Russia guards that tech very carefully. Ramjet of the Akash is nothing like it.

 

[Kunal Biswas]

India doesn't make Brahmos ramjet. Russia guards that tech very carefully. Ramjet of the Akash is nothing like it.

Brahmos 2 work is already on, And Ramjet propulsion will be used for a cruise Missile, Akash Ramjet deign is deign for SAM..

What i am saying Ramjet tech is useful in Hyper-sonic Cruise Missile..

 

[Armand2REP]

How much of the propulsion work does India do? Russia won't even share 30yr old ramjet tech.