India Vs Brazil, which one is stronger?

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Oh yes yes Armand .I`m damn sure that he is what you referred but again no personal attacks here. So let us seal our lips in this case.
 

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Wow, now that is a limit cross of any positive thinking. You are relating the over-population with India`s development and that too becoming a superpower. Have you ever thought the infinite demands of such a huge population?

Where will you get food, land,water, electricity.
More population= more vehicle= more need of fuel to burn =more import of crude oil= increase in price=load on gov treasury= dis balance in economy. More strain on police, strain on gov to ensure food security, to provide free education and vaccine and to maintain its social welfare schemes.

But all you thought is just to enjoy the outcome. Dig the reality, its not so easy. Superpower is a very big word, so use it wisely.
It's Chinese scheme, which keep export us "made in China" condemn. We, Indian, now have 2.3% birth rate by using "made in China" condemn. After 40 years, our population will be doubled and our no. 1 superpower dream will become true. Image if 2.5 billion people pee in the sea, the sea level will increase 1 meter. Nobody in the world can fight with us if they don't' want to see man-made Tsunami. To become no.1 superpower, don't use "made in India" high quality condemn.
 

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It's Chinese scheme, which keep export us "made in China" condemn. We, Indian, now have 2.3% birth rate by using "made in China" condemn. After 40 years, our population will be doubled and our no. 1 superpower dream will become true. Image if 2.5 billion people pee in the sea, the sea level will increase 1 meter. Nobody in the world can fight with us if they don't' want to see man-made Tsunami. To become no.1 superpower, don't use "made in India" high quality condemn.
You troll any more, and pretty soon you'll be hittin' high-road. To correct your ten-year old misinformation, India's birth rate is now 1.8%. It now accounts for close to 3% of world-trade from 0.2% a few years ago. It still has about 130 million people less than China, with a slowing pop'n-growth rate. And in 40 years, neither you nor I can know what India or China, for that matter, will be.


So talk sense or shut up.
 

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You either have to be f^cking blind or incredibly dumb! not to see that India is stronger than Brazil. In population terms. In military terms. In political; or geo-political terms. In global-institutional terms. In economic-trajectory terms. In cultural dominance terms.

You don't need to be an India-fan or an India-supporter to see the obvious truth.
 

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no comparison

everybody wants to compare brazil to india, the motive is to keep india in a low level of equilibrium. brazil just don't compare with india, nether does china for that matter. india is the world's largest democracy and not an autocracy. brazil is a big country as well, but it just doesn't compare to india.
 

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everybody wants to compare brazil to india, the motive is to keep india in a low level of equilibrium. brazil just don't compare with india, nether does china for that matter. india is the world's largest democracy and not an autocracy. brazil is a big country as well, but it just doesn't compare to india.
World largest democracy doesn't automatically award you status of world power. It is earned, not given by wishful talking. If you think Brazil is not in the same league of India, you are probably over confidence. India is a world leader in IT service, but Brazil has much better infrastructure, energy, aero space industry. In addition, Brazil enjoys a very comfortable geopolitical position than most of other countries, not to mention the vast terrain and huge reserve of natural resources.

India is in chronicle conflict with a neighbor country that poses Nuclear weapon-Pakistan. India is in long term border dispute with her another neighbor-China. India's population just passes 1.2 billion marks but all of them live in a place less than half the size of Brazil. India is a country lack of resources but has a huge growing appetite. These are some of toughest challenges India is facing today which could become major roadblock for her development if they are not resolved peacefully and constructively. Blindly ignore these facts and only getting over optimistic doesn't help.
 

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Question: India Vs Brazil, which one is stronger?

Answer: India
 

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India is in chronicle conflict with a neighbor country that poses Nuclear weapon-Pakistan. India is in long term border dispute with her another neighbor-China. India's population just passes 1.2 billion marks but all of them live in a place less than half the size of Brazil. India is a country lack of resources but has a huge growing appetite. These are some of toughest challenges India is facing today which could become major roadblock for her development if they are not resolved peacefully and constructively. Blindly ignore these facts and only getting over optimistic doesn't help.
Well there are some mistakes that were made by Indians due to vast number of reason in which the main was lack of proper education and stupid hindu superstitions. And due to this only India today posses a huge population density because earlier in the illiterate India, birth of a child was considered as god`s gift which rose our pop too high.

But but but, today those days are over, this is a new India, which knows what is good for its nation and thus we have seen positive changes over the last 20 years reflection in the Census.
 

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World largest democracy doesn't automatically award you status of world power. It is earned, not given by wishful talking. If you think Brazil is not in the same league of India, you are probably over confidence. India is a world leader in IT service, but Brazil has much better infrastructure, energy, aero space industry. In addition, Brazil enjoys a very comfortable geopolitical position than most of other countries, not to mention the vast terrain and huge reserve of natural resources.

India is in chronicle conflict with a neighbor country that poses Nuclear weapon-Pakistan. India is in long term border dispute with her another neighbor-China. India's population just passes 1.2 billion marks but all of them live in a place less than half the size of Brazil. India is a country lack of resources but has a huge growing appetite. These are some of toughest challenges India is facing today which could become major roadblock for her development if they are not resolved peacefully and constructively. Blindly ignore these facts and only getting over optimistic doesn't help.
And yet despite all these problems, India is marching strongly.

Brazil's biggest advantage is that all of its problems are endogenous and not exogenous (and hence largely beyond their control).

The exogenous problems India has been facing have been bleeding the country and preventing it from focussing on its endogenous problems.

However, I think its stupid that we are comparing ourselves to Brazil. We should be comparing India of 2011 with the India of 2010. Would anybody be happy if we were "on top of the list" with the India of today simply because other countries were crapper? Of course not.
 

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World largest democracy doesn't automatically award you status of world power. It is earned, not given by wishful talking. If you think Brazil is not in the same league of India, you are probably over confidence. India is a world leader in IT service, but Brazil has much better infrastructure, energy, aero space industry. In addition, Brazil enjoys a very comfortable geopolitical position than most of other countries, not to mention the vast terrain and huge reserve of natural resources.

I don't think the platitude of "much better infrastructure" applies to Brazil any more. Indian infrastructure has improved remarkably in the last few years and I am personal witness to it. And by that I don't just mean the cities, I mean the ports, the railway lines, the roads, the airports, the power generation, the communication lines and the industrial management, all of which are parts of infrastructure.

India is in chronicle conflict with a neighbor country that poses Nuclear weapon-Pakistan. India is in long term border dispute with her another neighbor-China. India's population just passes 1.2 billion marks but all of them live in a place less than half the size of Brazil. India is a country lack of resources but has a huge growing appetite. These are some of toughest challenges India is facing today which could become major roadblock for her development if they are not resolved peacefully and constructively. Blindly ignore these facts and only getting over optimistic doesn't help.
I don't think any of that is criterion for 'a global power'. China has a huge appetite for resources, and not nearly enough of them to satisfy it. It has a population 130 million more than that of India, and a population density in the east comparable to that of India. It is locked in terminal conflict with the world's only 'superpower', which conflict takes many forms: from the occupation of several military bases in the vicinity of the region to the military and political support for a power and landmass which China claims its own. It is bordered by a huge territorial neighbour, with vestiges of a power from the past and a resource-rich economy and pseudo-nationalist oligarchy / polity that is wary of both the United States and China. It has funded what is now the largest terror-network producing country in the world, from the Bali bombings <on, the world's largest muslim nation, to boot> to the London suicide assault <on a nation which has accommodated Pakistanis for centuries and, in fact, gave them their nation> which has only come to bite China back in the ass in the manifest forms of terrorism and terrorist-training camps in Xinjiang. It has a potential problem with the world's most populous democracy, a rising power itself, which still harbours an estranged Dalai Lama and the political leadership of a territory which its own people, and many civil sympathisers in the world, regard as irredently occupied. And finally, it is bordered by a technological and economic power to the east, which although defanged for the present moment, has shown a tendency to militarize very quickly in the past and to take on and win against military powers several times its size. All of these challenges China has confronted and grown despite of and because of. All of India's own challenges, it hopes to confront and to emerge as a successful nation despite them.
 

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China is also facing many challenges, no doubt. Sometimes I think China has more problems than India, both internally and externally. In that regard, it's also possible for Brazil to surpass China should a huge crisis happen in China.

However, by looking at ground reality today, Brazil is still remotely away from China but is very close to India in term of economy, if not more. That's why I brought up this topic into attention to Indian members here. Brazil's influence is getting bigger quickly and I can feel it here in North America. World leaders even Obama is eager to court Brazil and I'm pretty sure they all know the huge potential Brazil has.

Major countries in the world are in really serious competition now. It's time for India to accelerate her development but also acting smartly to prevent mistakes it made in the past. How to deal with Pakistan, China and exploding population are some of the toughest task facing GOI.
 
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China is also facing many challenges, no doubt. Sometimes I think China has more problems than India, both internally and externally. In that regard, it's also possible for Brazil to surpass China should a huge crisis happen in China.

However, by looking at ground reality today, Brazil is till remotely away from China but is very close to India in term of economy, if not more. That's why I brought up this topic into attention to Indian members here. Brazil's influence is getting bigger quickly and I can feel it here in North America. World leaders even Obama is eager to court Brazil and I'm pretty sure they all know the huge potential Brazil has.

Major countries in the world are in really serious competition now. It's time for India to accelerate her development but also acting smartly to prevent mistakes it made in the past. How to deal with Pakistan, China and exploding population are some of the toughest task facing GOI.
We are the largest democracy and we are friends of all democratic countries. The communist dictator China is now isolated from the free world. You only have friends from rogue countries like North Korea and Pakistan. If you yellow fellow want to be peacefully living us, you have to return Tibet, Xinjiang and Mongolia back to India that China grabbed in 1962. Remember that you automatically returned half of Tibet to us during 1962 when we had supports from both Soviet Union and USA. Tibet was an independent country under British India guidance on foreign police before you invaded them in 1951.
 

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We are the largest democracy and we are friends of all democratic countries. The communist dictator China is now isolated from the free world. You only have friends from rogue countries like North Korea and Pakistan. If you yellow fellow want to be peacefully living us, you have to return Tibet, Xinjiang and Mongolia back to India that China grabbed in 1962. Remember that you automatically returned half of Tibet to us during 1962 when we had supports from both Soviet Union and USA. Tibet was an independent country under British India guidance on foreign police before you invaded them in 1951.
We are the largest democracy. China rules the earth. All that we set eyes on is ours. Siberia, Japan, South China Sea, Vietnam, Taiwan, Nepal... it is all Greater China! India is but a speck of dust which will be crushed in hours. We already defeated their begger armies which came wave after wave to be mowed down by glorious Chinese super soldiers outnumbered ten thousand to one! China is fully independent of all supplies, we get nothing from Russia, France, Germany, USA... we make it all! Tibet is fully owned by China, their people are now Han Chinese and do not want to go back in time. They love China just like Uighurs who are now Han Chinese!
 

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Is this jazzguy out of his mind or is continuously drunk from past 3 years. Jazzguy stop your stupid senseless posts I fear that Mods will be forced to ban you. I know they dont ban people here and thats graceful but please watch your words.
 

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However, by looking at ground reality today, Brazil is still remotely away from China but is very close to India in term of economy,
Hahaha Are you sure buddy. I would be glad if can prove your words. You are underestimating or is totally unaware of the INDIAN ECONOMIC STRENGTH. strange.
 

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We are the largest democracy and we are friends of all democratic countries. The communist dictator China is now isolated from the free world. You only have friends from rogue countries like North Korea and Pakistan. If you yellow fellow want to be peacefully living us, you have to return Tibet, Xinjiang and Mongolia back to India that China grabbed in 1962. Remember that you automatically returned half of Tibet to us during 1962 when we had supports from both Soviet Union and USA. Tibet was an independent country under British India guidance on foreign police before you invaded them in 1951.


You can not criticize China to become pro-India. You can not criticize India to become pro-China.


Please try to have discussions with other members, not yourself
 

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The real question for this thread should be: India Vs Brazil - which one is more corrupt.

I think increasingly if you look at the BRIC countries in general (leave Russia out since the population is small)- the key indicator for future strength and success will be which one of these 3 countries is most successful in reducing corruption. China may have moved ahead but it still has huge pocket of people who live and work for peanuts and corruption at every level like India. So it may still crack and tumble because if they cant close the gap between Rich and Poor.

Between India and Brazil, both countries have tremendous potential but the Corruption levels are unbearable. The gap between Rich and Poor is expanding rapidly and this will eventually create all kinds of social problems for both countries.

But Brazil has 2 huge advantages over India:

1) It is not surrounded by any hostile heighbours - in fact it has no hostile neighbours despite bordering so many other countries. Latin American countries are very unlikely to ever go to war with each other. Brazil can spend its defense dollars on hi-tech weapons and research projects while maintaing a modest sized military. India has to support a huge army and send much more on defense.

2) Brazil still has tons of space to expand for its population and to build new cities, etc. It is not over populated. The big cities may be crowded but there is plenty of area to expand and it is almost all fertile land.
 
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