India to open super highway to Burma and Thailand

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1.India is in a prestigious and key position to promote SA's surface links to the Mekong valley in the east; and to W Asia and C Asia in the west. Leaders need to show vision and far-sight so that the peoples of SA can benefit from such projects.
2. In the east, Burma must resolve issues that have caused continuous insurgencies for more than half a century. In the west, Indo-Pak political differences should not become a barrier to such positive projects.
We already inked the BBIN agreement of seamless of transport vehicle movement throughout this countries. It would take more than visionary leaders to put some sense into pakistan which was trying to scuttle all sorts of integration in SAARC.

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A road trip from India to Thailand via Myanmar? Why not, from 2016

Come 2016, you could road trip all the way from the eastern Indian state of Assam to Bangkok, Thailand. This latest road development package comes on the back of Indian Prime Minister Dr Manmohan Singh’s visit to Myanmar. As a part of the visit, the first phase of this road project, which will connect Assam to the border of Thailand, through Myanmar’s cities of Rangoon and Mandalay, is said to be completed by 2016. Once this road comes up, trade is expected to pick up substantially in the Indian north eastern region as well as in Myanmar, Thailand and even Vietnam, in due course of time.

 

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See the diffrence is BJP would have made it happen and the road work would have started. With congress it is just a noble dream. All the 4 lane high ways where started by NDA, if not for them we wont even have good high roads.
well you're right on the first part, ....apparently congee hasn't made that road otoh neither has BJP !

this road is important to India and i say it has the capacity of being a real game changer for the economy, socially and also for defence

bjp is still new in office having had only a year so i'll give them time ...... by the end of their 5 year term the road should be done - at least to thailand .... later it must go further as i'll discuss below


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A road trip from India to Thailand via Myanmar? Why not, from 2016
it's fine for tourism ad of course the economy especially oil exploration is vitally important ....but the road must reach the north of vietnam .... then we can , just as prcchina has placed missiles in tibet, facing india, we can place missiles in the north of vietnam facing northward !

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Indian East-West corridor (Silchar - Saurashtra) is yet to complete. Don't know the status of Silchar-Imphal-Moreh(Myanmar Border) road. Actual traffic flow from India is not going to happen soon.
actual road population can take its time , the road should be built first ....especially just as ccpchina built the road to tibet decades before it transported people and tourist there

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It is also important that Bangladesh resolve all its issues with Burma... A freight corridor from Eastern India through Bangladesh will be beneficial to her in earnings from shipment of goods over it and also marketing its own merchandise to ASEAN countries...
errr well .... we should bypass b'desh in any and all matters to go direct to our objective ....... b'desh has worse probs than india , surely we are not going to "wait" for them ?
 
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It is also important that Bangladesh resolve all its issues with Burma... A freight corridor from Eastern India through Bangladesh will be beneficial to her in earnings from shipment of goods over it and also marketing its own merchandise to ASEAN countries...
It will also provide cheaper and easier access to goods from C/W India to NE. That's not the point. The point is the situation that history has placed India into. Only she can push such a project forward. But then this requires visionary leaders of character in India.One such bypassed by the corrupt/bankrupt political system the imperialists have left us, is Jaswant Singh.
 

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tyhis development is just another in a series of good moves made by the MMS admin - so i wonder if there might be a re-think by some of his critics on this forum ? he also has had a reasonably good record of delivering on time ( contrary to what chicom above has tried to use discouragement over ) ... and if the road can be extended to Ho Chi Minh city - then that would be nothing less than awesome and better than dragon's road to tibet !!

....for the economy the implications with thailand and vietnam are obvious, for culture the connection with cambodia is great ( Ankor Wat ) and for defence the road to the northern part of vietnam will be as valuable, so we canplace even artillery , rather than the more expensive missiles in norhern vietnam just as dragon has placed artillery in tibet !

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ma'am here cometh another chicom to discourage u and other indians fm the pipedream.



I happened to hav travelled to the famous bridge on the River Kwai at the Thai-Burma border and know well how terrible infra these 3rd world countries have, similar to the quality of the 【India_Burma Friendaship Road】 in post #24[emoji38]

in northern Burma the bumpy Stilwell road built in WW2 is still in use. time seems to hav run into an standstill.[emoji23]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bridge_on_the_River_Kwai

as @rockey 71 pointed out yr sketched super duper highway would hav to pass thru insurgency-festering Myanmar. various militant groups Shan ( Thai), Kachin and so on wouldn't allow that to move ahead.

also taking into account poor execution and inertia of Indian bureaucracy, with or without Modi, u'd better kiss yr wild dream goodbye of fast track to Indochine, as well as the game changer of artillery+ missiles for Vietnam.

the future of Mekong subregion and even Bangladesh + Myanmar lies in integrating with China the beacon of prosperity under the grand design of the Silk Road belt.

~Tapa talks: Orange is the new black.~
 
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Indian East-West corridor (Silchar - Saurashtra) is yet to complete. Don't know the status of Silchar-Imphal-Moreh(Myanmar Border) road. Actual traffic flow from India is not going to happen soon.
 
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ma'am here cometh another chicom to discourage u and other indians fm the pipedream.



I happened to hav travelled to the famous bridge on the River Kwai at the Thai-Burma border and know well how terrible infra these 3rd world countries have, similar to the quality of the 【India_Burma Friendaship Road】 in post #24[emoji38]

in northern Burma the bumpy Stilwell road built in WW2 is still in use. time seems to hav run into an standstill.[emoji23]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bridge_on_the_River_Kwai

as @rockey 71 pointed out yr sketched super duper highway would hav to pass thru insurgency-festering Myanmar. various militant groups Shan ( Thai), Kachin and so on wouldn't allow that to move ahead.

also taking into account poor execution and inertia of Indian bureaucracy, with or without Modi, u'd better kiss yr wild dream goodbye of fast track to Indochine, as well as the game changer of artillery+ missiles for Vietnam.

the future of Mekong subregion and even Bangladesh + Myanmar lies in integrating with China the beacon of prosperity under the grand design of the Silk Road belt.

~Tapa talks: Orange is the new black.~
Why do Chinese have to mention china in every post? Nations can only do things if china is involved yeah right.

http://www.themoscowtimes.com/arts_...waking-up-from-chinese-pipe-dream/529287.html


Putin Is Waking Up From Chinese Pipe Dream

Silk Road may never be built too many broke countries involved


Russia's President Vladimir Putin is currently in Beijing to attend a celebration of the 70th anniversary of Allied Powers' victory over Japan in World War II. Putin will try to use his trip to China — the 24th in his long tenure as leader — to enhance economic and political ties between the two countries. This time, however, that seems to be far more problematic than ever before.

First and foremost, Russia may soon feel the effects of China's spectacular economic slowdown. According to official statistics, growth rates decelerated slightly from 7.7 percent in the first quarter of 2013 to 7 percent in the second quarter of 2015 — but calculations based on electricity use suggest the real growth may be as low as 4.5-5 percent.

Combined with a recent stock market crash, this has already caused a downturn in global commodity prices, which has hit Russia hard. Much more important, however, is the fact that China was not only a price-setting player, but by far the biggest importer of raw materials in the world — and Russian authorities looked forward to turning their country into China's largest supplier.

Putin said back in 2007 that by 2025 Russia should dispatch to China around 35 percent of all its oil exports and close to 25 percent of its natural gas supplies (in 2014, the numbers stood at 14.8 and 0.05 percent). Moscow hoped that China would become Russia's new major trading partner, surpassing the EU by 2030.

These days, those dreams have evaporated — no one knows whether the "Power of Siberia" gas pipeline will be completed, and the amount of oil, coal, or non-ferrous ore supplies may also decline since the Chinese will consume raw materials from deposits in Asia, Africa and Latin America. The Chinese helped to develop these deposits in recent years with tens of billions of dollars in overseas investment.

The second big issue is prospective cooperation in Central Asia, considered in Moscow to be strategically important. The Russians believed for years in the possibility of developing the "New Silk Road" connecting China with Europe via continental routes in Siberia, Kazakhstan and Central Russia. But these plans were only plans — the Russians have done nothing to build railway and motorway networks between Russia's southern and western borders.

Vladimir Yakunin, the recently fired chief of Russian Railways, devoted more time to promoting Orthodox religious doctrine and speculating on geopolitical issues than running his company's core business. Therefore the Chinese decided to opt for the southern route, calling it the "Maritime Silk Road" (it has become much more seductive since the completion of the second line of the Suez Canal by the Egyptians), and later turned their attention to Iran — trying to redirect the continental Silk Road to the Caspian Sea's southern shore.

Today, China's foreign direct investments (FDI) in Kazakhstan are 10.5 times greater than those channeled to Russia — and there is little doubt that the "great transit game" Putin relied heavily on has been lost by Moscow. All other pipe dreams, like the one that was connected with the Northern Sea passage, have crumbled as well: In 2014, transit cargo traffic in the Far North went down by 76 percent and is now 4,000 times smaller than what passes through the Suez.

The third crucial topic is problematic cooperation in the defense and military technology spheres. For many years, China had reduced its defense imports from Russia, developing its own industrial capabilities, often by using Russian technologies even without appropriate authorization.

Russia saw China as its closest military ally and hoped to create a solid anti-American grouping. But China's current economic crisis proves that the country is unable to switch from its export-oriented model of development to another one, concentrated on the domestic market. Therefore it seems clear that China will avoid possible showdowns with the West and will try to foster economic cooperation across the Pacific instead.

Therefore the hopes of the Russian leadership that the Chinese may support them in their irresponsible foreign policy moves, look less and less realistic and therefore the main rationale behind Russia's "pivot to the East" is now missing.

The current stance of Russia-China economic and political relations is also far from perfect. The task to push the volume of bilateral trade to $100 billion, which was announced back in 2011, looks totally unrealistic: turnover peaked at $88.8 billion in 2013, decreased slightly to $88.3 billion in 2014, and fell to $30.6 billion in the first half of 2015, which shows a 28.7 percent decline.

Russian hopes for the windfall of Chinese investment that Putin was counting on after the introduction of the Western financial sanctions against Russia in July 2014 have also been dashed — the Chinese put a mere $1.6 billion into the Russian economy in 2014, while the official numbers for capital flight from Russia stood at $151.5 billion for that year.

Of course, these days in Beijing both Putin and Chinese leader Xi Jinping will deliver a lot of speeches and promise "an ever-deepening cooperation," but what remains clear is that the Russia-China "axis" is losing its economic basis very fast. Of course, Putin will not admit anytime soon that his bets on Russia's "Eastern pivot" in general and on deepened Russia-China cooperation in particular were misleading and fruitless.

But as the economic crises in both China and Russia unfold, this policy will become more and more disputed inside the Russian political and economic elite. No one knows how Putin will react, but he has no other major power to seek closer ties with: In the early 2000s he was America's best friend, later he build a "special relationship" with France and Germany, then he turned to China and broke ties with the West.

Where can he turn next? This is Russian foreign policy's biggest mystery, the one that will be crucial after pipe dreams about a possible great Russian-Chinese alliance finally fizzle out.

Vladislav Inozemtsev is a Berthold-Beitz fellow with the DGAP in Berlin and non-resident senior associate with the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, D.C.
 
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ma'am here cometh another chicom to discourage u and other indians fm the pipedream.



I happened to hav travelled to the famous bridge on the River Kwai at the Thai-Burma border and know well how terrible infra these 3rd world countries have, similar to the quality of the 【India_Burma Friendaship Road】 in post #24[emoji38]

in northern Burma the bumpy Stilwell road built in WW2 is still in use. time seems to hav run into an standstill.[emoji23]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bridge_on_the_River_Kwai

as @rockey 71 pointed out yr sketched super duper highway would hav to pass thru insurgency-festering Myanmar. various militant groups Shan ( Thai), Kachin and so on wouldn't allow that to move ahead.

also taking into account poor execution and inertia of Indian bureaucracy, with or without Modi, u'd better kiss yr wild dream goodbye of fast track to Indochine, as well as the game changer of artillery+ missiles for Vietnam.

the future of Mekong subregion and even Bangladesh + Myanmar lies in integrating with China the beacon of prosperity under the grand design of the Silk Road belt.

~Tapa talks: Orange is the new black.~
I see something burning at backside !! If China - Pakistan can build trade corridor through insurgency infested Baluchistan.. then why not through the insurgency infested Burma ?
 
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http://www.newindianexpress.com/wor...ens-in-November/2015/09/02/article3006971.ece

India-Thailand International Highway Opens in November

The Myawaddy-Thinggan Kawkareik section of the Asian Superhighway , starting from Manipur is set to open later in November this year.

The first 26.5 km stretch will bring the travel time down to one hour from the previous journey time.

The road's construction began in 2012 which runs from Moreh in India to Thailand's Maesot via Myanmar's Tamu, Mandalay and Myawaddy along with sharing the border with Burma.

The road runs further inside the Mandalay and Tamu of Myanmar.

There is also talk about introducing a bus service between India and Myanmar. If introduced, the service will ply between Imphal, Manipur, and Mandalay.

Prime Minister Narender Modi has set The India-Myanmar-Thailand (IMT) trilateral highway, a 3,200-km road which entails linking India to Myanmar and then further to Southeast Asia, as priority. The government is set to ink a strategic agreement to operationalise the highway to enhance regional co-operation later in November this year.









 

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It will also provide cheaper and easier access to goods from C/W India to NE. That's not the point. The point is the situation that history has placed India into. Only she can push such a project forward. But then this requires visionary leaders of character in India.One such bypassed by the corrupt/bankrupt political system the imperialists have left us, is Jaswant Singh.
Jaswant Singh is no more [ died last year]... Jaswant was a cavalry man with utopian thinking ... he was a descent person but never commanded mass support... I have very high hope from the current government of Modi... The current transport minister Gadkari is an achiever... It is to be remembered that last NDA government did excellent job in building highways what was known as quadrilateral... linking north - south & east -- west...

Eventually there will be freight corridor through Bangladesh that makes better economic sense... Hope Hasina Didi stays until then ...
 

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Jaswant Singh is no more [ died last year]... Jaswant was a cavalry man with utopian thinking ... he was a descent person but never commanded mass support... I have very high hope from the current government of Modi... The current transport minister Gadkari is an achiever... It is to be remembered that last NDA government did excellent job in building highways what was known as quadrilateral... linking north - south & east -- west...

Eventually there will be freight corridor through Bangladesh that makes better economic sense... Hope Hasina Didi stays until then ...
That is where Indian BD policy is myopic. A sensible policy must look forward to lasting long. Such a policy must have the acceptability of the BD nation at large. Hasina's is an unelected/illegal govt. Any deals with her will be questioned when a legitimate popular govt comes to power.
 

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That is where Indian BD policy is myopic. A sensible policy must look forward to lasting long. Such a policy must have the acceptability of the BD nation at large. Hasina's is an unelected/illegal govt. Any deals with her will be questioned when a legitimate popular govt comes to power.
Here you go .... Why do we have to bother legality of Hasina ? It is internal problem of Bangladesh ...India deals with Hasina because it is internationally accepted government ..
 

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I see something burning at backside !! If China - Pakistan can build trade corridor through insurgency infested Baluchistan.. then why not through the insurgency infested Burma ?
He does not realize that any move by the Chinese to block the roadway (through its terror outfits) will have implications - like bringing in US into the sector or targeting of POK infrastructure or ceaseless buzzing of subs on piracy duty or uncalled for help on the new silk route or appreciation of the new Paki Economic zone till Gwadar.

Moves that even the most conservative Indian, most anti-western Indians, will easily support.
 

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I'm more concerned with reverse flow of tourism into India. That is what I believe we should truly concentrate on. We should concentrate on getting the hordes of westerners, Chinese and Russians to take buses from Thailand to come visit the hills of the N.E.
China and India had a long mutually beneficial economic and cultural relationship from the time of Hieun tsang. There is no reason for the politics of today to have an impact upon tourism or trade in either direction.
As for the Vietnamese I believe the PLA will meet it's fall much like the Americans if they push too hard on that front.The Vietnamese are suicidally patriotic they beat back the French and the Americans, they're no pushovers.
 

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That is where Indian BD policy is myopic. A sensible policy must look forward to lasting long. Such a policy must have the acceptability of the BD nation at large. Hasina's is an unelected/illegal govt. Any deals with her will be questioned when a legitimate popular govt comes to power.

Nobody is beholden to BD. BD is dispensable even for our north east.

Look at the map India can still easily connect with its north east using multi-modal transport via Assam (overland) and Myanmar (coastal shipping).

Your territorial waters do not extend beyond 12 nautical miles. That many miles out into the sea it is still coastal shipping. Gadkari would be very happy with that kind of project. In any case coastal shipping costs, work out to about a two-third of the overland transport.

We are clear, strategically, we have to link up our north east with both ASEAN in the east and East India (WB+Bihar) in the west.

You better start worry about the chinese damning of Brahmaputra. Most of Indian north east has the Brahmaputra flow being very fast for any real use. BD is the one that benefits the most from Brahmaputra waters.
 

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