India to deny Pakistan strategic depth in Afghanistan

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Pakis don't know history well... neither their or others!!! :lol:

They should name it's missiles as farhan,ajtr,Jana or Musharaf, Benzir etc etc or even better his Holiness Zaid Hamid. :taunt:
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we are more concerned about our afghan brothers..only pashtoon
Out of curiosity, since you care so much about your "Afghan Pashtoon brothers," how about you consider granting Afghanistan their demand apropos the Durand Line? Or are they not "brother" enough?
 

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Why this kolaveri di? You guys name your weapons after Uzbeks and implicitly worship them, whether you realize it or not.
majority is the authourity.

not now bt in future as was in the late past Afghanistan only belong to Pashtoon's no uzbeks

Since pakistan hold 70-80% of pashtoon around the world.and they are bound to get there own land once again..so we have rights to name our missile or anything on afghan origin
 

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Out of curiosity, since you care so much about your "Afghan Pashtoon brothers," how about you consider granting Afghanistan their demand apropos the Durand Line? Or are they not "brother" enough?
majority is the authority once again

we will merge afghanistan with kpk in future
 

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majority is the authourity.

not now bt in future as was in the late past Afghanistan only belong to Pashtoon's no uzbeks

Since pakistan hold 70-80% of pashtoon around the world.and they are bound to get there own land once again..so we have rights to name our missile or anything on afghan origin
Babur was not a Pashtoon! Nor did he have origin in Afghanistan!

He was born in present-day Uzbekistan and he was of either of Turkic or Mongol origin.
 
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Babur was not a Pashtoon! Nor did he have origin in Afghanistan!

He was born in present-day Uzbekistan and he was of either of Turkic or Mongol origin.
born in uzbekistan doesnt mean he's a uzbek
 

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Farghana is in Uzbekistan , that makes Babur Uzbek
 

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Once there's a void like NATO pull-out China and Russia would fill it in no time under the SCO flag. Both Russia and China have enough leverages on Uzbek and Tajik (There's also a population of Uzebek and Tajik in China) plus Pakistan's connection with Pashtoon majority.

Karzai has gifted the world's largest copper mine and oil fields to China for protection in order not to follow the fate of Afghanistan Online: The Hanging of Dr. Najibullah after Soviet was out.

Therefore rest assured Pakistan's strategic depth in Afghanistan will be secured.

India's gateway to Afghanistan would be choked once the US and Israel attack Iran.

 

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Once there's a void like NATO pull-out China and Russia would fill it in no time under the SCO flag. Both Russia and China have enough leverages on Uzbek and Tajik (There's also a population of Uzebek and Tajik in China) plus Pakistan's connection with Pashtoon majority.

Karzai has gifted the world's largest copper mine and oil fields to China for protection in order not to follow the fate of Afghanistan Online: The Hanging of Dr. Najibullah after Soviet was out.

Therefore rest assured Pakistan's strategic depth in Afghanistan will be secured.

India's gateway to Afghanistan would be choked once the US and Israel attack Iran.

Your entire post is full of assumptions:

- Except the SCO is nothing but an ego-stroking organization for the Chinese and Russians.
- Majority denotes 50+1, therefore there is no Pashtun majority in Afghanistan.
- Americans are not going anywhere. Karzai is flying to Washington next week to ink a security pact through 2024, which may be extended if need be.
-How exactly will Pakistan secure strategic depth when no one dares to take a pro-Pak position in Afghan polity and their proxies are too weak to hold anything of value? If there is one thing Afghans can agree on, it is their hatred for Pakistan due to their support of proxies since 1992.
- And we have given massive iron blocks to the Indians. So what? The copper deal was not negotiated in good faith and the next government will take a serious look at it.
- The route may get chocked during the initial days of the war, but it might as soon open again. The route from Chabahar to Nimruz is populated by the Baluch who have no great sympathy for Iran, and the Iranian province of Sistan-Baluchistan will be of little consequence during an Israeli attack.


India has more leverage than Russia and China combined, by leaps and bounds. The latter countries can never hope to attain the cultural relativity we share with the Indians.
 

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If India is not proactive, it will lose Afghanistan. Seriously we cannot be looking at "not hurting Paki sensibilities" it is ridiculous.
But are India's options not incredibly limited Sir? I mean unless India wants to put a sizable number of "boots" on the ground in Afghanistan and spend 10s of billions. What can India do that the US- by far the richest nation on earth with the most advanced military on the planet and some of its richest allies can't/have failed to do? After 2014 India will be left incredibly exposed in Afghanistan and anything with an Indian connection will become an attractive target thanks to the ISI- we have already seen this with the Indian Embassy attacks in Kabul.


What realistically can/should India do without getting sucked in like the US and Russians (which it can ill afford).
 

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But are India's options not incredibly limited Sir? I mean unless India wants to put a sizable number of "boots" on the ground in Afghanistan and spend 10s of billions. What can India do that the US- by far the richest nation on earth with the most advanced military on the planet and some of its richest allies can't/have failed to do? After 2014 India will be left incredibly exposed in Afghanistan and anything with an Indian connection will become an attractive target thanks to the ISI- we have already seen this with the Indian Embassy attacks in Kabul.


What realistically can/should India do without getting sucked in like the US and Russians (which it can ill afford).
Well, i agree with most of your points but we should help in the strengthening ANA with all possible means we can, from deadly hardware to training of their officers to the core (which infact we are doing) But we should not backtrack from supplying military hardware for them(even if it cost us a little). A strong ANA with good # of troops is in our Interest. And there is no way Afghanistan will become a stable country without a strong army and intelligence agency which can revert both conventional and covert operation by pakistan/ISI.
 

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But are India's options not incredibly limited Sir? I mean unless India wants to put a sizable number of "boots" on the ground in Afghanistan and spend 10s of billions. What can India do that the US- by far the richest nation on earth with the most advanced military on the planet and some of its richest allies can't/have failed to do? After 2014 India will be left incredibly exposed in Afghanistan and anything with an Indian connection will become an attractive target thanks to the ISI- we have already seen this with the Indian Embassy attacks in Kabul.


What realistically can/should India do without getting sucked in like the US and Russians (which it can ill afford).
If the US leaves Astan completely, yes we will be in trouble. But I don't think the US will leave Astan in any hurry.

That said, India has to continue to support the alliance against Talibunnies. India did that with the Northern Alliance earlier.

Like I have said earlier, train and arm the Afghans with our own manufactured weapons. Fighters, Tanks etc. it serves us two purpose. Gets the Afghans on our side and helps them fight the bad guys and also it gives us critical "war" performance of our weapons systems.

That apart, covert ops including fermenting even greater trouble in Balochistan will help India.
 

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