India slams Pakistan for atrocities in PoK and Balochistan, asks Ministers to globally EXPOSE Pak

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no , sindhudesh should not be merged in India .....it should be a free country ....................only problem with bangladesh is open borders ......but we already have closed borders with sindhudesh ................so let them remain free .
merging them will change lot of things here,politics and specially population demography.. we dont want to face what europe faced by allowing syrian/ME refugees..

but sindhustaan is really fertile , and resourceful too ,lot of trade goes nearby it seas.

if allowed free it can be overtaken by enemy nations indirectly.. tough call
 

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Bloody bustards living in India,enjoying all facilities and democratic freedom and still playing anti national nonsense.

It's clear that they are going to continue this as they have guidance of separatists and porkistan money pumped in.

India must not back now from current iron fist stance,or should blow more hard punches and teach them to show respect.
If again congress comes to power....they will get down to non violence movement and gandhi giri......
They won't even power to fire at will when paki violates cease fire.

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PM Modi’s 56-inch response on Kashmir, says govt to highlight atrocities in PoK, Balochistan

In what could mark a clear shift in India's foreign policy, PM Modi has made it clear that India would no longer tolerate Pakistan's interference in India's internal affairs.

Speaking during the ALL Party Meet today, the PM said that time has come for Pakistan to answer the world on atrocities against people in PoK and Balochistan.




In what could mark a clear shift in India’s foreign policy, Prime Minister Narendra Modi today made it clear that India would no longer tolerate Pakistan’s interference in India’s internal affairs. If the need be, India will expose atrocities carried out by Pakistan in Balochistan and Pakistan-occupied Kashmir (PoK) regions. Speaking during an ALL Party Meet today, the PM said that time has come for Pakistan to answer the world on atrocities against people in PoK and Balochistan, Union Home Minister Rajnath Singh said after an All Party Meet on Kashmir. Addressing a press conference later in which Singh was also present, Finance Minister Arun Jaitley said PM Modi has suggested exposing Pakistan as a measure, if the country doesn’t stop supporting terror elements and interfering in India’s internal affairs.

PM Modi said people from PoK and Balochistan living in other countries should be contacted and asked about atrocities in their regions to expose Pakistan in front of the world community, Singh said while sharing salient points of PM’s speech at the All Party Meet.

The government informed leaders of all parties that several measures have been taken to bring normalcy back to Jammu and Kashmir. One of them is a Rs 80,000 cr package for development of the state. Singh said that a part of the package has already been forwarded to the state government and the rest would be cleared by the Finance Ministry soon.

The Central government is also conducting a massive recruitment drive for armed forces in the state to provide employment to youths of J&K. Singh said that advertisements for recruitment of SPOs have been issued while recruitment process for CRPF and 5IR Battalion has started. Jaitley said that security forces have been advised to act with utmost restraint and curfew has been relaxed in several parts of the state.

During his speech at the ALL Party Meet, the PM asserted that the Centre is ready to address grievances of all sections of people in J&K but not at the cost of India’s integrity. He said that Pakistan’s support to cross-border terrorism was the main reason behind unrest in Kashmir. During the meeting, it was also suggested that an all-party delegation be sent to J&K to assess the situation in the state. However, the government has not made any commitment on this.
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Maulana Rockullah's Expert comment: Good decision by PM to counter Pakis. We should have done it long time back. Recently Pakis were itching too much to be slapped and exposed by India.Pakistan today is in the most isolated state due to it's constant Human Rights violation and state sponsored terrorism. We give full moral support to Baloch and Afgan people who are suppressed by Pakistan.

Pak Army killed 3,000,000 Muslim Bangladeshis.
Pak Army raped 200,000 Bangladeshi women.
Pak Army killed 100,000 in Kashmir.
Pak Army killed 80,000+ Pakis using Planes/Tanks/Helis/Artillery during WOT , mostly civilians.
Pak Army killed 10,000's Baloch.
Pak Army supported Terrorist orgs fighting for in Khalisthan/North East India and even China.
Pak Army is slaughtering all Shias/Ahmediyas/Hazaras/Hindus/Sikhs/Christians ie. all Non-Sunni's.
Almost all terrorism acts in the WORLD are traced back to Pakistan.


Pak Army is the biggest BUTCHER of HUMANITY as well as blot on Islam.

Pakistan is a Terrorist State.

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Now more and more people are knowing that you have made the UN designated Terrorists like Hafiz and Sala-ullu-din as your Defense and Foreign Ministers.You did a self goal by declaring Paki Terrorist Burhan as martyr.You are the biggest butchers of Muslims yourself and worst Human Violater.

You have again created a situation in Balochistan like it was in Bangladesh.You are doing Bangladesh - II

Balochistan is a DISPUTED Territory.Balochistan needs Freedom.

PoK belongs to India.

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Tarak Fatah in himself is a greatest crusader against Porkis and their atrocities. He has exposed Porkies like nobody else and that can not be done with huge propaganda budget. We must train few paople to be like him and who can take his place.
 

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Unraveling the Mystery of Pakistan's 'Ghost Madrassas'


Sindh, the southern province of Pakistan, has always been an epicenter of progressive political parties which keep a close check over the spread of religious militancy and violent extremism in their constituencies. Even though Sindh has been a secular and progressive region, where Sufi traditions have never let the militant mindset prevail, the province still supports tens of thousands of madrassas, Islamic religious schools.

There’s just one problem: many of these supposed madrassas don’t actually exist.

A meeting of officials of Sindh, held in May at the chief minister’s house in the provincial capital of Karachi, was told by the inspector general of the Sindh police that over 10,000 ghost madrassas had been unearthed through physical verification. This verification was made after 7,724 actual madrassas were geo-tagged.

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Ghost schools have been a point of debate in Pakistan for many years but this new term, “ghost madrassas,” has stayed under the radar. Ghost schools exist only in government books, from which they receive annual funding from the education budget. As a result, individuals are able to pocket funds meant for schools that do not actually exist on the ground. Recently, Sindh managed to largely root out such ghost schools; now it has to cope with the new phenomena of ghost madrassas.

Ghost schools are supposedly government entities, and the provincial government provides funds for them. But who is funding these 10,000 ghost madrassas, and who is benefiting? What is the purpose of these ghost madrassas? After all, they exist only on paper, yet most of them are unregistered with the relevant authorities. Whatever funds they get don’t come from the state.

To answer these questions, I spoke to police officers and other members of law enforcement agencies, including a senior official with an intelligence agency. These interviews revealed that ghost madrassas serve as revenue streams for various religious groups, most of which are engaged in militancy and violent extremism. A few of the figures behind these ghost madrassas have political motives, while some are believed to run ghost madrassas to meet the needs of their families.

Being a hub of Pakistan’s economy and home to the major port city of Karachi, the province of Sindh alone produces around 65 percent of the total revenue of Pakistan. As a result, it also provides a conducive environment to those seeking to exploit religion to provide their own revenue stream — including militants.

So how do these ghost madrassas generate money when they are not funded by the government, unlike ghost schools? Interestingly, I was told that the most active source of their revenue has been intercity bus routes. The most common method of fundraising is simply for a bearded man, carrying a booklet of receipts, to board a bus and ask passengers to donate to the ongoing construction of his madrassa or mosque. Sometimes they resort to emotionally blackmailing the passengers by asking for their help in feeding readers of the Quran. Scores of ghost madrassas are promoted as an “additional room” for a mosque.

These ghost madrasas also collect animal hides on Eid and gather funds by visiting businessman. Others, rather than collecting funds from bus passengers, have collection boxes in shops, gas stations, or shopping malls; they also operate online accounts and promote themselves on social media. Many ghost madrassas have bank accounts that they mention on their banners, which are usually hung during holy days. The major chunk of ghost madrassas come from a group of activists who run their collection drive in areas where the upper class congregates, such as Khadda market in the army’s housing development in Karachi.

A senior intelligence officer revealed that ghost madrassas usually operate through bank accounts fusing their fake madrassas and registered non-governmental organizations. When asked to elaborate on the mixture of NGOs and ghost madrasas, the officer said the perpetrators want to keep their revenue intact, avoiding Zakat al-Fitr and tax deductions. Thus, they operate through a registered non-profit organization. They use these bank accounts especially to generate funds from social media and members of the community living abroad.

The official also said that the ghost madrassa fundraisers are often involved in money laundering. Through the money they raise, they have been investing in real estate. Ghost madrassas have been a successful endeavor because most Pakistanis pay the fundraisers without verifying if their mosque or madrasas actually exists.

While I was investigating ghost madrassas, I took a bus trip from Lyari to Thatta and back, a distance of around 15 km. Sure enough, two boys boarded the bus and started requesting funds for their madrassa, supposedly being built at Cattle Colony bus stop. This made me remember the days when I used to travel by bus from Steel Town to Millennium Mall to reach my college. Every day, someone would board the bus asking for funds for the same madrassa, which after nine years is still supposedly under construction.

Sindh’s inspector general claims there are around 10,000 ghost madrassas in the province; the real number may be far larger. And that is just in Sindh, while this is a problem for all of Pakistan. Under the guise of fundraising for religion, madrassas, and mosques, the public is easily tricked. The majority of people don’t verify that the mosque or madrassa in questions exists before handing over their money to the ghost madrassa mafia — this is how we have been fueling the thousands of criminals and militants who taken up this lucrative business.


http://thediplomat.com/2016/08/unraveling-the-mystery-of-pakistans-ghost-madrassas/
 

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Indians do not need to be defensive about their support for freedom of Baluchistan. Every untidy statement will be used against us; giving them margin to invent counter propaganda like playing victim.

Our PM as evoked Baluchistan from Red Fort. It can not be as unequivocal as it is today for Indians to support this cause without any guilt.

This forum as given platform to voices for and from Baluchistan even before this overt foreign policy stand GOI has shouted out. Next level up should be discussion about strategies, logistics and tactics to consolidate our support to Balouch cause.

  • Balouch Government in Exile.
  • Indo-Balouch friends forum.
  • White Papper on atrocities committed against Balouch nationals by Punjabi Pakistani army, Exploitation of their resources and economy, cultural onslaught and change in demographics by giving jobs to Punjabi population etc.
  • Compiling extensive literature on Balouchistan and regional dynamics.
  • Dedicated think Tank and study circles.
  • Collaborations with other organizations those who have been fighting for Human Rights violations in Baluchistan.
  • Diplomatic loop-ins, formal/informal whiskers and build up to reduce shock factors followed by proactive lobbying with friendly nations and if possible alliances of more serious interventions with interested parties (Re: Chinese expansionism, Naval Bases and military logistical up-gradation with alarming speed).


Regards.

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Moving my post here.

I will request Moderators to move all related thread here. Regards

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BTW I was reading comments by few Indians on a Pakistani forum. I felt like doing X-ray PA view Lower back for missing Lumbar spine. Monkey Balancing done by 3-4 usual clowns; as they regularly do on every thread, was appalling.

Like I said, Indians must not make untidy statements. Now Pakistanis are coming up with new feel good statements that Modi is doing what we wanted him do. I remember OOE assertion at WAB, "Indians Sucks in propaganda".
 

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Please merge this thread http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...necessary-restraint-on-kashmir-experts.77194/

https://in.news.yahoo.com/modi-launches-pok-missile-red-fort-then-happened-111456945.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
Modi launches PoK missile from Red Fort, and then this happened

By Smita Prakash

New Delhi, Aug.17 (ANI): There is a lot of discomfort in many quarters after the surprising, some say even shocking mention of Pakistan Occupied Kashmir (PoK) and Balochistan in Prime Minister Modi's Independence Day address to the nation from the Red Fort.

Keen observers of Red Fort speeches of Prime Ministers had a suspicion that Mr. Modi would talk about Kashmir and maybe mention Pakistan's meddling in India's internal affairs.

Well that would have been par for course for any Prime Minister. But if anything one has learnt about the past two NDA years is that one should expect the unexpected from Mr. Modi. He is not a status quo Prime Minister.

And that applies one hundred percent with regard to engagements with Pakistan. Those who have been reporting on the complex relationship are a bit disturbed over the constant changing of goal posts in the past two years. From inviting Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif to the cabinet swearing in May 2014, to suddenly dropping by in Lahore to wish the Pakistan Premier a Happy Birthday, to now firing the Baloch missile, expect the unexpected.

Reporters and analysts who are in the comfort zone of predictability with small maneuvers have to be on their toes now, recalibrating their responses.

There has been a spate of articles in both India and Pakistan denouncing Prime Minister Modi's mention of PoK and Balochistan in his speech, terming it as sabre rattling with Pakistan.

Some unnamed former foreign secretaries spoke to reporters on background that the overt mention of support to Baloch and Gilgit separatists was quite unnecessary when the situation in the Kashmir Valley is volatile and ground support for India is fast dissipating. Some of the points that come up in articles and social media posts are these:

----Let's get our Kashmir sorted out before we look at sorting out problems in PoK:

Inherently, there is no 'first this' 'then that' when it comes to international relations. You pursue your agenda regardless of how the domestic side is being handled. For e.g. Nehru went ahead with Panchsheel, Mrs. Gandhi with the war that created Bangladesh, Rajiv Gandhi visited Pakistan and Dr. Singh with the nuclear agreement. They didn't wait for the Dravidian agitation to settle down, for Nagas to give up their secessionist movement, for Khalistan separatism to die down, for Naxals to stop blowing up schools and roads. India will always have problems and Kashmir isn't going to be the land of milk and honey for some time. So, cannot put stuff on hold while Kashmir gets sorted out.

----Leave PoK to Pakistan, why needle an already aggressive, war mongering neighbour

Giving in to a bully is the worst form of cowardice. At times you can allow for a little leeway to see the bully punch his own nose. Pakistan has been going to every international forum, almost on a daily basis, for the past one month maligning India on the Kashmir agitation. Besides, Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif and his advisor Sartaj Aziz writing to everybody in the UN, EU, OIC and random international bodies, the Pakistani diplomatic corps has been on a single point mission of focusing on human rights violations in Kashmir. Even journalists from Pakistan have swamped press conferences at the EU and US State department for quotes denouncing India. It is a heavy-duty propaganda war to add to the proxy war that Pakistan has overtly launched this summer. Do you ignore and allow the mudslinging to continue or do you prove that the other side doesn't have a leg to stand on? Clearly the Modi government has chosen the latter.

Also how do you leave PoK to Pakistan? You have a parliamentary resolution that categorically states that all of Jammu and Kashmir belongs to India. The previous administrations decided to ignore this and not bring it up in any of the bilateral talks besides a cursory mention. That is set to change now. If anything the Parliament debate on Kashmir and the Home Minister's visit to Islamabad showed that no party wants a roll back of India's position on PoK. That debate probably gave the confidence to the Indian Prime Minister to say what he did.

----It is a new war game that India has agreed to be part of

What is India supposed to do if Pakistan continues with its proxy war and shows no signs of backing off? Stand on its high moral ground while a fire is lit at the feet? Kashmir is burning and Pakistan is adding fuel to fire. Paying locals to attack security forces, encouraging children to come to the streets to throw stones, glorifying Kashmiri terrorists, sending in terrorists to funeral processions in Kashmir to encourage pro-Pakistan and anti-India sentiments - how much is one supposed to 'tolerate'? India has a problem of enormous proportions in Kashmir. It has to be tackled at various fronts and one of them certainly is to deal with Pakistan. Sometimes tough, sometimes soft. But off late it does seem that Pindi won't be calling the shots every time any more.

He could have spoken on PoK but why Balochistan? Now Pakistan has ammo.

True, Pakistan will now go to town to say they were right in saying that India fuelled attacks in Balochistan. Even if you say that India didn't provide man or material, they anyway will say what they want to. Pakistan is a country that denied that Bin Laden and Mullah Omar were in their territory. They continue to say Dawood isn't there.

Mr. Modi just made a non-specific reference to Balochistan. The inference many have deduced is that India supports the secessionists in Balochistan. India has not officially made any statement to that effect. What it has indicated to Pakistan is that you have to sort out your issues in Balochistan, and since there is a secessionist movement there and they kind of like us Indians and want our support; it may be something that we may want to consider. Think about it. Somewhat like moral and diplomatic support to the Baloch cause? If Pakistan backs off it would give breathing room for India in Kashmir. That might work, or might not.

----This government has no Pakistan plan. How does Modi plan to take it forward?

Firstly, it is no state secret that no Indian government has had a Pakistan plan. It is quite impossible to have one with a country that you have fought four wars with. If you stretch out your arm in Lutyen's Delhi you will be in striking distance of a Pakistan specialist. Everybody knows how to deal with Pakistan and can advise the government and the PMO. So, how are Prime Ministers supposed to deal with Pakistan? Either go strictly by advice given to him or her by the bureaucracy, somewhat like Dr. Singh's style or Narasimha Rao. Or else think out of the box like I.K. Gujral or A.B. Vajpayee and it appears, Narendra Modi. Whether the mention of PoK and Balochistan means a sustained plan of action is something one has to watch to see.

In conclusion, the unpredictability of the Modi's government's Pakistan negotiations is causing anxiety to many. The most recent being the uncertainty over India's response to invitations from Pakistan to the Finance Minister for the SAARC meeting and to the Foreign Secretary to talk on Kashmir. Will they, won't they. Everybody has a source based news report. But nobody can be quite sure. (ANI)



 

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Good article below...

It says that:-
  • Stone pelting is a organized crime and youth are often lured by some money.drugs or simply threats.
  • Mosques are used to force/threaten people to take on streets.
  • Money comes from Pakistan.
  • SPG leaders knock the doors in midnight and threatens to join protests/pelting.
  • When elders stop them then they get slapped by these stone pelters.
  • SPG go to peaceful Mohallas and do rioting by covering faces.
  • SPG tells Women not drive or they would be burned with their vehicles.
  • SPG gives most money by putting up Paki flags.

PS: SPG = Stone Pelting Gangs

पत्थरबाजों को रोकते हैं बुजुर्ग तो वे थप्पड‍़ मारते हैं


श्रीनगर। कश्मीर में कर्फ्यू को 39 दिन हो चुके हैं। 65 जानें जा चुकी हैं। एक दिन के लिए भी कर्फ्यू नहीं टूटा। संभवत: देश का सबसे लंबा कर्फ्यू। 2010 में भी हिंसा चार महीने चली थी, पर तब बीच-बीच में कर्फ्यू हट जाता था।

कश्मीर हिंसा को लेकर एक हिंदी अखबार ने पूरी ग्राउंड रिपोर्ट तैयार की है। आइए बताते हैं क्या है रिपोर्ट में युवाओं, महिलाओं, बुजुर्गों सबसे बातें की। यहां दो तरह के चेहरे नजर आए। एक बेबस और खौफ से भरे, तो दूसरे गुस्से से। डाउन टाउन का महाराजगंज कश्मीर का सबसे बड़ा बाजार है। बंद दुकानों के बाहर बैठे बुजुर्ग बताते हैं कि 90 के दशक से ही कर्फ्यू यहां की जिंदगी का हिस्सा रहा है।

कर्फ्यू और क्रैकडाउन पहले भी होते थे। कोई शुक्रवार ऐसा नहीं जब यहां पत्थरबाजी न हो। लेकिन इन लड़कों को इतना बेकाबू कभी नहीं देखा। जब उनसे पूछा कि पत्थर फेंकने वालों को आप समझाते क्यों नहीं? तो 65 साल के एक बुजुर्ग बोले- ‘हम उन्हें रोकते हैं तो वो हमें ही थप्पड़ मारते हैं। उन्होंने कहा, ये दूसरे मोहल्लों से हमारे इलाके में आकर सिक्युरिटी वालों पर पत्थर फेंकते हैं। हम तो इन्हें पहचान भी नहीं पाते। ये चेहरे पर कपड़ा बांधकर हुडदंग करते हैं।

मस्जिदों से लोगों को प्रदर्शन में आने की धमकियां देते हैं। घरों के दरवाजे आधी रात ठोककर कहते हैं सड़क पर निकलो और नारे लगाओ।’

इस बुजुर्ग जी बात पर वहां बैठे कुछ और बुजुर्गों ने हामी भरी और कहा कि हमारे बच्चे ऐसे नहीं हो सकते। पत्थरबाजी यहां पेशा बन चुकी है। ये डाउनटाउन वही इलाका है जहां से घाटी में आतंकवाद शुरू हुआ। पुलिस की गिरफ्त में आए कुछ पत्थरबाजों ने खुलासा किया कि कुछ लड़के चरस और अफीम, ड्रग्स के डोज के बदले भी पत्थरबाजी करते हैं। पत्थरबाजों का हर मोहल्ले का अपना हेड है, जो लड़कों को पसै देता है। हर दिन और इलाके में पत्थरबाजी का अलग-अलग रेट है। पूरे दिन के अलग रेट, जुमे के अलग रेट।

पाकिस्तान का झंडा लहराने के ज्यादा पैसै मिलते हैं। इन्होंने अपना एसोसिएशन भी बना रखा है। यही एसोसिएशन बयान जारी कर धमकियां देता है। हाल में लड़कियों को स्कूटी चलाने पर स्कूटी समेत जलाने की धमकी भी इन्हीं लोगों ने दी थी। गौर हो कि हिजबुल के पोस्टर ब्वॉय और कमांडर बुरहान को पिछले महीने सिक्युरिटी फोर्सेस ने मार गिराया था। उसकी मौत के बाद कश्मीर में अलगाववादी प्रदर्शन करने लगे। धीरे-धीरे यह हिंसक होता गया।

बता दें कि 22 साल का बुरहान 15 साल की उम्र में आतंकी बना था। वह पिछले कुछ महीनों से साउथ कश्मीर में बहुत एक्टिव था। उसने यहां के कई पढ़े-लिखे यूथ्स को बरगला कर आतंकी बनाया था। कश्मीरी यूथ को रिक्रूट करने के लिए वह फेसबुक-वॉट्सऐप पर वीडियो और फोटो पोस्ट करता था। इनमें वो हथियारों के साथ सिक्युरिटी फोर्सेस का मजाक उड़ाते हुए नजर आता था। वानी को भड़काऊ स्पीच देने और सोशल मीडिया का इस्तेमाल करने में एक्सपर्ट माना जाता था।

- See more at: http://liveindia.live/postdetail/index/id/93719/inside-story-about-kashmir/#sthash.9tlwdMGO.dpuf
 

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Some of the comments on this issue are just plain silly including by ex-diplomat Bhadrakumar.

1. "Balochistan is an internal issue/not disputed territory"

So...?

I could cite countless examples of foreign states issuing statements about things far less important than the subjugation of a whole nation consisting of millions of people.

- Pakistan and Turkey constantly defending Jamaati war criminals. Jamaat is a party with less than 5% support and not a nation of millions like the Baloch, yet Pakistan and Turkey vocally supported them and harassed Bangladesh over this. Were there any real repercussions for Pakistan or Turkey for doing this? Not really. So will there be any repercussions for Modi on voicing support for the Baloch, not really?

Aside from Pak-Turk support for Jamaat there are countless examples of western countries complaining about human rights e.g. the recent western call for Erdogan to restrain himself in his campaign against his opposition etc.

Bottom line, nothing will happen to Modi if a nuclear giant with a consumer base of 1 billion + says Pakistan is carrying out human rights violations in Balochistan.

2. Deterrent value of Baloch card.

As mentioned above Pakistan is obsessed with complaining to white westerners about India (and even Bangladesh, whom they tried to undermine in the commonwealth). Either India watches passively and lets Pakistan run its mouth with impunity or it retaliates.

Retaliatory action has a deterrent value as Pakistan knows it can also be exposed.

If Modi keeps on raising the Baloch issue and others including members of the public talk about it including on social media (facebook, twitter) which is more difficult for the agenda-driven western media to ignore/manipulate, it creates pressure on Pakistan.

Millions of Indians may comment about the Baloch issue and some of these Indians resident abroad will have facebook friends who are white, Muslim, brown, black who will also become aware of the Baloch issue and Pakistan's human rights abuses.


3. India loses nothing by doing this.


What is going to happen. Is America going to carry out sanctions against the 1 billion + economic market that is India? Is the UN going to pass a resolution against India, which would definitely be vetoed by Russia?

Pakistan should shut its mouth about Kashmir, about supporting Jamaati war criminals and terrorists because it makes itself look weak, whiny and needy by complaining to the "white man" about this all the time, not to mention the shame they receive for supporting Jamaati war criminals and rapists.
 

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India has become banana republic. Today government has traced 10 bank accounts getting money form Pakistan.

Russia or China for that matter would have wiped these people including their families.

Scoundrel like Geelani is allowed o tweet and spew venom.

How long we are going to upheld rights of these people, exercise maximum restrain and follow the law and still people are not going to value it.

It like ''Baad Achha Badnaam Bura'' you turn even into Gold for them these Jihadis will call you dust.
 

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could you pls share a link for read?
http://www.ndtv.com/india-news/prob...ank-accounts-1445376?pfrom=home-lateststories

India has become banana republic. Today government has traced 10 bank accounts getting money form Pakistan.

Russia or China for that matter would have wiped these people including their families.

Scoundrel like Geelani is allowed o tweet and spew venom.

How long we are going to upheld rights of these people, exercise maximum restrain and follow the law and still people are not going to value it.

It like ''Baad Achha Badnaam Bura'' you turn even into Gold for them these Jihadis will call you dust.
In the long run, we don't want to be like Russians or Chinese. They were and are unsustainable societies. Though, I agree there sould be fast track mechanismfor dealing with such cases.

These 'separist' leaders are allowed to exist as far as I can figure things out. In the cost-benefit analysis, whether its worth it, I am not sure.
 
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MHA To Move Note On Rs 2,000 Crore For Pok Settlers



Modi has directed Ministry of External Affairs to get in touch with expats from PoK, Gilgit and Baluchistan and highlight Pakistan’s role in human rights violation


NEW DELHI: Prime Minister Narendra Modi is upping the ante on the Pakistan front and after alluding to human rights abuses in Pakistan occupied Kashmir (PoK) in his Independence Day address, the Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) is all set to move a proposal before the cabinet to release Rs 2,000 crores for refugees from PoK settled in Jammu and Kashmir.


"The government not only wants to expedite the release of financial package announced by PM Modi for Kashmir but also aims to bring forward alleged atrocities committed by Pakistan in PoK leading to displacement of so many families," said a senior government official on condition of anonymity.


Officials said the one time settlement announced by the Modi government is likely to impact more than 36,000 families from PoK who migrated to J&K in 1947, 1965 and 1971. After an all-party meeting on Kashmir, the prime-minister has directed Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) to get in touch with expats from PoK, Gilgit and Balochistan and highlight Pakistan's role in human rights violation.



Modi thanked the people from these regions for responding to his appeal against Pakistan. According to officials, the release of Rs 2,000 crore as "resettlement fund" for PoK migrants will be disbursed in consultation with the state government where the figures and data of refugees have been compiled.
"This will largely cover PoK and Chhamb refugees," said an official, adding that the move may cause discontent among the refugees of West Pakistan who are yet to get government's attention.


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@Nicky G - welcome back! ......................................
Thanks!

Was dejected with the performanance of this government and their apparent repeat of mistaken that ABV comitted. Came back due to some interesting developnets, this one in particular.

Lets see if have done our homework and are able to respond if and when things escalate.

You think we mean business here or this was just rhetoric?
 

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Thanks!

Was dejected with the performanance of this government and their apparent repeat of mistaken that ABV comitted. Came back due to some interesting developnets, this one in particular.

Lets see if have done our homework and are able to respond if and when things escalate.

You think we mean business here or this was just rhetoric?
would be early to pronounce anything ATM IMO.
but looking at how the issue was taken up and talked upon in a vocal manner at no less than at the country's I-day event from the dais by the PM, then the BJP ministers esp. from the J&K region (check Nishikant Dubey's demand) having taken this up aggressively (I read ministers from the opposition too have been requested to take it up), support from int'l communities/orgs, it looks like this will carry on. perhaps we are now at a stage where our political strategy restricts us no more for any sundry reasons or any unfounded or otherwise inhibitions to drum about this issue. this certainly needs to be followed.
 
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If one single line comment regd POK & Balochistan from Modi can ignite such frenzy , imagine what a concerted effort can achieve ...

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@Bengal_Tiger seems like the Bangladesh government supports our stand.

Bangladesh backs Modi on Balochistan

Bangladesh on Wednesday came out in support of Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s stand on the Balochistan issue, saying Dhaka would soon make a policy declaration on Pakistan’s human rights abuses in Balochistan.
“Bangladesh is constitutionally bound to support liberation struggles and we will soon declare an official policy on Balochistan,” he added.
 

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@Bengal_Tiger seems like the Bangladesh government supports our stand.

Bangladesh backs Modi on Balochistan
Yes I've started a thread on this.

This marks a watershed event in Bangladeshi foreign policy towards Pakistan, instead of being passive and just dealing with Pakistani-sponsored terrorism and destabilization in our country we are being a bit more pro-active and supporting an oppressed nation, a nation being terrorized by the same army and state that murdered us.
 

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Bangladesh on Wednesday came out in support of Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s stand on the Balochistan issue, saying Dhaka would soon make a policy declaration on Pakistan’s human rights abuses in Balochistan.

Speaking to The Hindu, Hasanul Haque Inu, the visiting Minister of Information in the Sheikh Hasina government, said Balochistan was facing the brunt of Pakistan’s military establishment, which “targeted” the Bengalis in East Pakistan in 1971 before the creation of Bangladesh.

“Pakistan has a very bad track record as far as addressing aspiration of nationalities is concerned. They learnt nothing from the defeat of 1971 and continued to practise the same policy of repression and are now targeting the Baloch nationalists,” Mr. Inu said.

“Bangladesh is constitutionally bound to support liberation struggles and we will soon declare an official policy on Balochistan,” he added.

Key meetings

His comment comparing the Bangladesh Liberation War of 1971 with the situation in Balochistan came a day after Minister of State for External Affairs M J Akbar compared East Pakistan of 1971 with “simmering Balochistan”.

Mr. Inu is scheduled to spend three days in Delhi, meeting a range of policy-makers, including National Security Advisor Ajit Doval.

Mr. Inu, a former leader of the Mukti Bahini, the guerrilla force that fought against Pakistan during 1971 war, said Pakistan’s inability to learn from its “historic mistakes” could be explained by the fact that it failed to evolve into a working democracy due to the domination of the Pakistan military in the vital affairs of the state.

‘Pakistan exports terror’ The leader of the Jatiyo Samajtantrik Party (JSD) also said as part of the counter-terror strategy, India and Bangladesh have agreed on a “MoU on data exchange”, which will ensure pre-emptive intervention targeting terrorists.

“Bangladesh wants India to partner a joint effort to control distortion of Islam and history, which can safeguard the memory of 1971,” the minister said.

In the last few years, Dhaka has detected multiple cases where Pakistani diplomats posted in Bangladesh were found to have been involved in terror plots.

“Pakistan exports terror and Pakistan needs to be confronted about the futility of its policies that it has refused to change till now,” Mr. Inu said, sounding a note of caution that Pakistan’s tactics could impact the spirit of regional cooperation in the South Asia region and the SAARC.

Bangladesh, he said, is worried of the fallout of Pakistan’s official policies regarding nationalities and promotion of cross border violence.

Seeks explanation

“Islamabad needs to explain what it wishes to achieve by promoting cross-border terrorism in South Asia and by repressing democratic nationalities like the Baloch in its territory,” Mr. Inu said.

Dear Sir, Bangladesh needs to developed strategies with India to dismantle and STOP,of pakistan tactics of producing Terror Networking and Destructive Activities South Asia. Pakistan need to avoid all kind Terror Network and proxy war with india in Kashmir Issues. Kashmir is integral part of India, many old days Bollywood movies sentiment have relation with natural beauties of J & K. How could india tolerated only few azad kashmir fighters agenda and there personal benefits to see freedom of Kashmir.
We Indian won't support azad kashmir and it can be deadly war in pakistan occupied kashmir.
Jai Hind.
 

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