India should use resources to fight against poverty, not against Pak

[sgarg]

Re: India should use resources to fight against poverty, not against P

You should stop these violations with Pakistan. You have been separated for 70 years and still fighting. Finland separated from Russia hundred years ago and have had good relations for the past 70 years. This fight will take you to economic and mental doom. How do you raise your children? To hate Pakistan and China? Hardly gives good start for a constructive life.

You are wrong. We love Pakistani. Since we cannot meet them physically, we have to send bullets to kiss them sometimes.

India does not teach its children to hate Pakistan. No Indian textbook has such thing. It is Pakistan in which textbooks teach children to hate India.

Pakistan's situation is quite complicated. It is difficult for you to understand. Only a learned Pakistani can explain to you.

 

[sorcerer]

Re: India should use resources to fight against poverty, not against P

@jouni

Ok, this is obviously a touchy subject. You look like Europe in the middle ages. The road is long. I have to study your conflict a little bit more I guess.

You should stop looking at India leaning over a Pakistani and look at India, standing on own feet, you can see much better India then.

Pakistan education:
http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...eligious-intolerance-through-textbooks-3.html

Where J&K rightly belongs to India. This is where it all starts.
Instrument of Accession (Jammu and Kashmir) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The crux of matter being, Pakistan is acting like the protector of Muslims.
Ironically,
India and her constitution protects the Indian muslims better than muslims inside Pakistan and muslims in India are many times better than muslims in Pakistan.
(You must have read about sectarian violence inside Pakistan)
J&K would be peaceful if the Pakistan stops violence by infiltrating terrorists into India.

Let commonsense prevail !!

 

[Compersion]

Re: India should use resources to fight against poverty, not against P

we can do the both ... we have the resources

also taking care of pakistan is correlated to poverty elimination in india

 

[Ray]

Re: India should use resources to fight against poverty, not against P

You should stop these violations with Pakistan. You have been separated for 70 years and still fighting. Finland separated from Russia hundred years ago and have had good relations for the past 70 years. This fight will take you to economic and mental doom. How do you raise your children? To hate Pakistan and China? Hardly gives good start for a constructive life.

What violations?

Could you enumerate them rather than using generalities.

Pakistan has started three of the four wars she has fought against India. She is exporting terrorism to India, to include Kashmir.

No one hates Pakistan or China.

It is just that we have issues that are very passionate since we wish to be independent of foreign machination and intrigues.

 

[jouni]

Re: India should use resources to fight against poverty, not against P

@jouni


You should stop looking at India leaning over a Pakistani and look at India, standing on own feet, you can see much better India then.

Pakistan education:
http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/...eligious-intolerance-through-textbooks-3.html

Where J&K rightly belongs to India. This is where it all starts.
Instrument of Accession (Jammu and Kashmir) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The crux of matter being, Pakistan is acting like the protector of Muslims.
Ironically,
India and her constitution protects the Indian muslims better than muslims inside Pakistan and muslims in India are many times better than muslims in Pakistan.
(You must have read about sectarian violence inside Pakistan)
J&K would be peaceful if the Pakistan stops violence by infiltrating terrorists into India.

Let commonsense prevail !!

I guess that if you look at the population rich countries in the world: CHINA, US, INDIA, RUSSIA, INDONESIA, TURKEY, you all have some kind of skirmishes all the time going on. Maybe it took for Germany and Japan a total catastrophe, a "year zero" to find a better way forward without war. Truth is also that with your huge size these small conflicts can be kept going on for years and years...

You seem to be reasonable people, so I hope you can make progress in this front too.

 

[Ray]

Re: India should use resources to fight against poverty, not against P

Ok, this is obviously a touchy subject. You look like Europe in the middle ages. The road is long. I have to study your conflict a little bit more I guess.

Here is something that will start you on your journey to understand India Pakistan issues.


It is just that you will not understand Urdu, but there are series of explanation done by Najam Sethi on TV.

Sethi is the 16th and former (caretaker) chief minister of Punjab. He is an award-winning Pakistani journalist, editor, and media personality, the editor-in-chief of The Friday Times, a Lahore based political weekly, and previously the editor of Daily Times and Daily Aajkal newspapers.

This link will give you an exposure to India Pakistan relationship from a Pakistani standpoint
https://www.google.co.in/#q=Najam+Sethi+on+India

However, knowing Urdu maybe essential.

 

[Kshatriya87]

Re: India should use resources to fight against poverty, not against P

As far as I remember, Battle of Badr and Hunayn were NOT fought with India. Also, Pakistan repeating these battles? There was no Pakistan then and no pakis either. What the HELL is this ----- talking about?

 

[Kshatriya87]

Re: India should use resources to fight against poverty, not against P

You should stop these violations with Pakistan. You have been separated for 70 years and still fighting. Finland separated from Russia hundred years ago and have had good relations for the past 70 years. This fight will take you to economic and mental doom. How do you raise your children? To hate Pakistan and China? Hardly gives good start for a constructive life.

And here I thought you were smart. I'm not even going to argue here. But a suggestion of course. Go to the Pakistan thread, read all the arguments there. Also, read the book "Pakistan's way of war - fighting to the end" by Christine Fair. You will probably get the idea.

 

[Kshatriya87]

Re: India should use resources to fight against poverty, not against P

Ok, this is obviously a touchy subject. You look like Europe in the middle ages. The road is long. I have to study your conflict a little bit more I guess.

Europe in middle ages? Are you really THAT naïve? How about Europe, I don't know, like, TODAY !! What is happening in Ukraine? Did you notice that? Where is the peace and your so called "civilized" behaviour there?

WAR is inevitable when some other country threatens your country's territorial integrity.

 

[jouni]

Re: India should use resources to fight against poverty, not against P

Europe in middle ages? Are you really THAT naïve? How about Europe, I don't know, like, TODAY !! What is happening in Ukraine? Did you notice that? Where is the peace and your so called "civilized" behaviour there?

WAR is inevitable when some other country threatens your country's territorial integrity.

You can thank Russia for that trouble in Ukraine. The rest of the Europe thought that power politics and war were a thing of the past here.

 

[Kshatriya87]

Re: India should use resources to fight against poverty, not against P

You can thank Russia for that trouble in Ukraine. The rest of the Europe thought that power politics and war were a thing of the past here.

Then why don't you guys (europeans) sort it out in your so called "mature & modern" methods like you say? Leave the quarrel behind and move forward? YOu can't right? Thats exactly what Pakistan is doing to us. Except, they can't beat us in a fair war.

Hope you got the point now. It takes 2 people to make friends, but only 1 to start a fight.

 

[Sylex21]

Re: India should use resources to fight against poverty, not against P

Ok I hate to play devil's advocate here, but nothing he said is technically "wrong" in any way. I think India should totally play up the whole "mature nations don't fight wars anymore" card, and toss out a never ending tirade of how war is a thing of the past and how it wants good relations with Pakistan. It would make a great PR campaign and win over many Pakistani's who are very very paranoid and taught that at any moment India is going to spill over the boarder in some Hindu crusade to wipe out Pakistan.

Some of you quoted Dr. Christine Breyer and her book "Fighting to the end". If you've read it, you'll realize that Pakistan is held together by a fear of Indian invasion. Psychologically getting 1/2 your country cut off has to be very rough and feed into the paranoia. See how threatened India feels with China's growth, and China is just 2.5x bigger than India's economy in PPP terms. India's economy is 10x bigger than Pakistan's and they have a much much worse history.

So I suggest India absolutely adopt the policy of claiming to fight poverty over gearing up militarily or taking a "tough" stance on Pakistan.
-Covert operations, easily denied are still a great idea to apply just the right pressure at just the right time in just the right places to help "push" Pakistan.

When it comes to military action and war, people should not talk much and preach "peace peace, one world, love, holding hands, blah blah", and then when the moment is right to strike, the strike should be massive, permanently devastating to the enemy, and without warning.

 

[Bangalorean]

Re: India should use resources to fight against poverty, not against P

Ok I hate to play devil's advocate here, but nothing he said is technically "wrong" in any way. I think India should totally play up the whole "mature nations don't fight wars anymore" card, and toss out a never ending tirade of how war is a thing of the past and how it wants good relations with Pakistan. It would make a great PR campaign and win over many Pakistani's who are very very paranoid and taught that at any moment India is going to spill over the boarder in some Hindu crusade to wipe out Pakistan.

Some of you quoted Dr. Christine Breyer and her book "Fighting to the end". If you've read it, you'll realize that Pakistan is held together by a fear of Indian invasion. Psychologically getting 1/2 your country cut off has to be very rough and feed into the paranoia. See how threatened India feels with China's growth, and China is just 2.5x bigger than India's economy in PPP terms. India's economy is 10x bigger than Pakistan's and they have a much much worse history.

So I suggest India absolutely adopt the policy of claiming to fight poverty over gearing up militarily or taking a "tough" stance on Pakistan.
-Covert operations, easily denied are still a great idea to apply just the right pressure at just the right time in just the right places to help "push" Pakistan.

When it comes to military action and war, people should not talk much and preach "peace peace, one world, love, holding hands, blah blah", and then when the moment is right to strike, the strike should be massive, permanently devastating to the enemy, and without warning.

Nothing wrong with what you are saying of course, but it does irritate us to see Pakis making such pompous statements like "India should use resources for poverty, not against Pakistan". It raises our hackles to see Pakis talking like this. These dopeheads started all wars with India and lost all of them. Yet, they don't give up. The hard reality is that the Paki mentality is to "fight a 1000 year war against the Hindu". They are not a normal nation-state. There is no rationalizing and convincing that will work with such an entity.

 

[thethinker]

Re: India should use resources to fight against poverty, not against P

You should stop these violations with Pakistan. You have been separated for 70 years and still fighting. Finland separated from Russia hundred years ago and have had good relations for the past 70 years. This fight will take you to economic and mental doom. How do you raise your children? To hate Pakistan and China? Hardly gives good start for a constructive life.

Don't be so concerned about children in India.

Be worried about those children from across the border who turn into mujahids and blow themselves up or go on quest to impose Sharia law in foreign lands.

Don't worry, once Finland ups the Paki immigration in your nation, your ignorance about Indo-Pak will vanish very quickly.

Finlandistan here we go! :thumb:

 

[tramp]

Re: India should use resources to fight against poverty, not against P

Pakistan is still fighting the phantom limb syndrome, the condition that makes one flex an amputated limb.

They will continue to do that as long as that country exists. Will never get over the loss of Bangladesh. Just like they will struggle to assimilate the loss in future of Balochistan and parts of KP.

 

[Singh]

Re: India should use resources to fight against poverty, not against P

India should use resources to defeat Pak without firing a single bullet.

 

[sorcerer]

Re: India should use resources to fight against poverty, not against P

@thethinker

Finlandistan here we go

nooo..Not Finlandistan..
Its Findistan, where Fins search for their beloved land.

Finland should look at the Plight of UK just to see how Pak could turn place into a hell hole.

 

[jouni]

Re: India should use resources to fight against poverty, not against P

Don't be so concerned about children in India.

Be worried about those children from across the border who turn into mujahids and blow themselves up or go on quest to impose Sharia law in foreign lands.

Don't worry, once Finland ups the Paki immigration in your nation, your ignorance about Indo-Pak will vanish very quickly.

Finlandistan here we go! :thumb:

We have enough problems with our own, the downside of our schoolsystem...

BBC NEWS | Europe | Finnish college gunman kills 10

BBC NEWS | Europe | Man kills eight at Finnish school

 

[thethinker]

Re: India should use resources to fight against poverty, not against P

We have enough problems with our own, the downside of our schoolsystem...

BBC NEWS | Europe | Finnish college gunman kills 10

BBC NEWS | Europe | Man kills eight at Finnish school

As per you :

This fight will take you to economic and mental doom. How do you raise your children? To hate Pakistan and China? Hardly gives good start for a constructive life.

If this is the myopic view you have about Indian kids being taught to hate Pakis, then you come across as a blissfully ignorant Finn.

 

[sorcerer]

Re: India should use resources to fight against poverty, not against P

We have enough problems with our own, the downside of our schoolsystem...

BBC NEWS | Europe | Finnish college gunman kills 10

BBC NEWS | Europe | Man kills eight at Finnish school

You really from Finland?
Cuz I see "Xinhua News Agency" Water marked on the Pic which you have posted.
It could probably be cuz of whats pulled upto you when you search images from behind the Great Firewall!!! Images from native sources are flashed first..eh?

Xinhua in European search???!!!?? is a rarity!! especially when you search for Finnish news on European version of search .