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Bids Submitted For Indian Basic Trainers
NEW DELHI — Industry hopefuls last week submitted bids to build 75 basic trainer aircraft for the Indian air force, at a cost of roughly $6 million each.
Contenders include the Embraer EMB-312 Tucano, EADS PZL-130 Orlik, Grob G120, Hawker Beechcraft T-6, Pilatus PC-7A, Korea's KT-1 and Daher-Socata TB30 — with the last three having the same basic platform and engine. Once a decision is made, Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL) will float a bid for the design of 104 aircraft.
The tender comes with a 30% offsets clause, which one original equipment manufacturer (OEM) says will not be difficult to fulfill in India. However, the ejection seat is a distinct requirement, and those that do not have one built-in may be disqualified, a senior official told Aviation Week.
"An ejection seat is not easy to fit as it requires structural strengthening," the official adds.
The urgent requirement comes with the grounding of a fleet of more than 100 Hindustan Piston Trainer (HPT)-32s following a spurt of crashes.
Pilots are currently being trained on another indigenous HAL aircraft, the Kiran, a straight-wing aircraft earlier used in stage-two training of pilots. HAL is developing an Intermediate Jet Trainer (IJT), which the Indian air force plans to buy, but it is not expected to fly for at least three years. Final training is on the advance jet trainer Mk132, the Hawk, which is suffering from production delays with only 29 available of the 66 ordered.
"This experiment [training on Kirans] has been quite successful," Indian air force chief of air staff P.V. Naik told Aviation Week recently. "Maybe for another year and a half we will continue with this. I am sure by then we will be able to find an alternative to HPT-32 to continue training unhindered."
Fuel system problems with the HPT-32 has led HAL to ask for bids for an emergency parachute recovery system to fit 120 grounded trainers, a commercial-off-the-shelf item.
BRS, one of the three contenders, has designed, manufactured and distributed emergency parachutes for 30 years and says it has sold more than 31,000 units and documented 243 lives saved. "Our BRS system is ideally suited for the application ... this technology was adapted to faster and heavier experimental aircraft, which evolved into FAA-approved parachute installations in certified aircraft," President and CEO Larry Williams told Aviation Week.
The most significant advancement of this technology was its incorporation as standard equipment on all Cirrus Design aircraft in 1998, which currently account for one-third of all new single-engine general aviation aircraft sales in the U.S.
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/newsrf.php?newsid=12770
NEW DELHI — Industry hopefuls last week submitted bids to build 75 basic trainer aircraft for the Indian air force, at a cost of roughly $6 million each.
Contenders include the Embraer EMB-312 Tucano, EADS PZL-130 Orlik, Grob G120, Hawker Beechcraft T-6, Pilatus PC-7A, Korea's KT-1 and Daher-Socata TB30 — with the last three having the same basic platform and engine. Once a decision is made, Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL) will float a bid for the design of 104 aircraft.
The tender comes with a 30% offsets clause, which one original equipment manufacturer (OEM) says will not be difficult to fulfill in India. However, the ejection seat is a distinct requirement, and those that do not have one built-in may be disqualified, a senior official told Aviation Week.
"An ejection seat is not easy to fit as it requires structural strengthening," the official adds.
The urgent requirement comes with the grounding of a fleet of more than 100 Hindustan Piston Trainer (HPT)-32s following a spurt of crashes.
Pilots are currently being trained on another indigenous HAL aircraft, the Kiran, a straight-wing aircraft earlier used in stage-two training of pilots. HAL is developing an Intermediate Jet Trainer (IJT), which the Indian air force plans to buy, but it is not expected to fly for at least three years. Final training is on the advance jet trainer Mk132, the Hawk, which is suffering from production delays with only 29 available of the 66 ordered.
"This experiment [training on Kirans] has been quite successful," Indian air force chief of air staff P.V. Naik told Aviation Week recently. "Maybe for another year and a half we will continue with this. I am sure by then we will be able to find an alternative to HPT-32 to continue training unhindered."
Fuel system problems with the HPT-32 has led HAL to ask for bids for an emergency parachute recovery system to fit 120 grounded trainers, a commercial-off-the-shelf item.
BRS, one of the three contenders, has designed, manufactured and distributed emergency parachutes for 30 years and says it has sold more than 31,000 units and documented 243 lives saved. "Our BRS system is ideally suited for the application ... this technology was adapted to faster and heavier experimental aircraft, which evolved into FAA-approved parachute installations in certified aircraft," President and CEO Larry Williams told Aviation Week.
The most significant advancement of this technology was its incorporation as standard equipment on all Cirrus Design aircraft in 1998, which currently account for one-third of all new single-engine general aviation aircraft sales in the U.S.
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/newsrf.php?newsid=12770
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RFP for trainers only after consistent IAF pressure
Aviation Week reports that the manufacturers have submitted the bids to sell 75 trainer aircrafts a unit to India and once a decision is made, Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL) will float a bid for the design of 104 aircrafts.
The Ministry of Defence had issued the Request for Proposal (RFP) to acquire 75 basic aircrafts for the IAF to a dozen global aircraft manufacturers. The manufacturers include global turboprop aircraft manufacturers such as Embraer, Pilatus, Raytheon, Finmeccanica, Grob, EADS PZL and Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) and a pre-bid meeting was held on 02 February. Top brass of the IAF told 8ak that even though the bids have been submitted it would take a year for the entire process to materialise if all goes per plan, since the entire tender process will have to be carried out, which was a very cumbersome process involving decision makers who have no knowledge of equipment or the needs of the IAF.
According to the RFP the manufacturer will have to deliver the first 12 aircraft within 24 months of the contract. The remaining trainers will follow in batches. The 75 aircraft are part of the government's go- ahead to the IAF for the acquisition of 181 basic trainers. Sources told 8ak that it was a very difficult task to convince the government to buy new trainer aircrafts for the IAF and the process could only be initiated after playing hardball with the government. The urgency to acquire new trainers was felt after grounding of the 125-strong Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) designed and manufactured Hindustan Piston
Trainer-32 (HPT-32) fleet, on which the initial training of flight cadets is conducted was grounded after one of these aircraft crashed killing two instructors during a flight from the Air Force Academy (AFA) at Dundigal.
The crash triggered major resentment amongst the instructors who refused to fly the ageing aircraft. As a make shift arrangement the initial training of pilots, since then, is being done on another HAL manufactured aircraft - Kirans. The HPT-32 fleet since then remains grounded and is expected to be phased out by 2013-14. The induction of new trainer aircraft will enhance the training standards of the IAF pilots, which has come under severe criticism due to increasing pilot deaths in the past two decades, resulting due to a combination of ageing Soviet era fleet and poor training. The IAF also inducted BAE systems manufactured Hawk advanced jet trainers (AJTs) in 2008 to impart superior training to pilots-under-training. The induction of the Hawk AJTs is significant because it fulfilled a long-standing demand of the IAF that will effectively bridge the gap between the slow jet trainer such as Kiran and the advanced fighter aircrafts in the Air Force.
The Korean submission in this bid is a result of their successful offset policy from which India has a lot to learn. However, last year there was bad blood between the offset partner Lockheed Martin and KAI over the losing a trainer competition in the UAE. KAI said that Lockheed did not provide it the support it required in the bidding process.
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Aviation Week reports that the manufacturers have submitted the bids to sell 75 trainer aircrafts a unit to India and once a decision is made, Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL) will float a bid for the design of 104 aircrafts.
The Ministry of Defence had issued the Request for Proposal (RFP) to acquire 75 basic aircrafts for the IAF to a dozen global aircraft manufacturers. The manufacturers include global turboprop aircraft manufacturers such as Embraer, Pilatus, Raytheon, Finmeccanica, Grob, EADS PZL and Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) and a pre-bid meeting was held on 02 February. Top brass of the IAF told 8ak that even though the bids have been submitted it would take a year for the entire process to materialise if all goes per plan, since the entire tender process will have to be carried out, which was a very cumbersome process involving decision makers who have no knowledge of equipment or the needs of the IAF.
According to the RFP the manufacturer will have to deliver the first 12 aircraft within 24 months of the contract. The remaining trainers will follow in batches. The 75 aircraft are part of the government's go- ahead to the IAF for the acquisition of 181 basic trainers. Sources told 8ak that it was a very difficult task to convince the government to buy new trainer aircrafts for the IAF and the process could only be initiated after playing hardball with the government. The urgency to acquire new trainers was felt after grounding of the 125-strong Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) designed and manufactured Hindustan Piston
Trainer-32 (HPT-32) fleet, on which the initial training of flight cadets is conducted was grounded after one of these aircraft crashed killing two instructors during a flight from the Air Force Academy (AFA) at Dundigal.
The crash triggered major resentment amongst the instructors who refused to fly the ageing aircraft. As a make shift arrangement the initial training of pilots, since then, is being done on another HAL manufactured aircraft - Kirans. The HPT-32 fleet since then remains grounded and is expected to be phased out by 2013-14. The induction of new trainer aircraft will enhance the training standards of the IAF pilots, which has come under severe criticism due to increasing pilot deaths in the past two decades, resulting due to a combination of ageing Soviet era fleet and poor training. The IAF also inducted BAE systems manufactured Hawk advanced jet trainers (AJTs) in 2008 to impart superior training to pilots-under-training. The induction of the Hawk AJTs is significant because it fulfilled a long-standing demand of the IAF that will effectively bridge the gap between the slow jet trainer such as Kiran and the advanced fighter aircrafts in the Air Force.
The Korean submission in this bid is a result of their successful offset policy from which India has a lot to learn. However, last year there was bad blood between the offset partner Lockheed Martin and KAI over the losing a trainer competition in the UAE. KAI said that Lockheed did not provide it the support it required in the bidding process.
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M-346 Gets Helmet-Mounted Display
ROME - Alenia Aermacchi has test-flown a new helmet-mounted display (HMD) it has developed for its M-346 jet trainer, the company said May 17.
The HMD, which will be offered by the firm alongside the aircraft's existing head-up display, will provide altitude, navigation, tactical and mission information on the visor of a 1.6-kilogram helmet, Alenia Aermacchi said, as well as allowing night flying with night-vision goggles.
The HMD will be fully integrated with the aircraft's embedded training simulation system as well as with the full mission simulator.
A camera in the system will capture the pilot's field of view, as well as the projected information, for use in postflight debriefings.
Alenia Aermacchi, a unit of Italy's Finmeccanica, has sold the M-346 to the Italian Air Force. The M-346 also has been selected by the United Arab Emirates.
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4629614&c=EUR&s=AIR
ROME - Alenia Aermacchi has test-flown a new helmet-mounted display (HMD) it has developed for its M-346 jet trainer, the company said May 17.
The HMD, which will be offered by the firm alongside the aircraft's existing head-up display, will provide altitude, navigation, tactical and mission information on the visor of a 1.6-kilogram helmet, Alenia Aermacchi said, as well as allowing night flying with night-vision goggles.
The HMD will be fully integrated with the aircraft's embedded training simulation system as well as with the full mission simulator.
A camera in the system will capture the pilot's field of view, as well as the projected information, for use in postflight debriefings.
Alenia Aermacchi, a unit of Italy's Finmeccanica, has sold the M-346 to the Italian Air Force. The M-346 also has been selected by the United Arab Emirates.
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4629614&c=EUR&s=AIR
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The grob G-120TP wins the tender hands down, of the contenders apart from pzl 130 no other is an ab-initio trainer. Procuring any other would contradict HJT-36 utility in IAF. The RFI sent to 10 of which only grob is the only side by side seater to have ejection seats fitted in its ab-initio trainer, all the others such as sf-260,PAC CT/4 were taken out by a single clause of ejection seats. Our own NAL hansa which is priced at $ 1.3 million a piece, would have been a nice fix, if not for the lack of military certification and ejection seat requirement. The G-120TP has a rolls royce turboprop engine, a martin baker ejection seat, which makes this particular version cost $ 2.8 million, compared to the israeli G-120 that cost $1.3 with piston engine. But the Aircraft at this price is lucrative than others in the competition, which cost $ 10 +, its a no brainer why its taking so long for the decision.
I accept that the Aircraft is fairly new and we are the launch customer for the turboprop version. But it should be noted that the certification for G-120 TP version is the latest in the competition, with airframe life of 15,000 hrs the trainer would last well over half a century. Its a great bang for the buck.
One that constantly annoys me constantly is Defense Ministry bureaucrats holding talks for years to finalise an aircraft whose company may become solvent by the time the decision is made. It is an another thing that our know it all HAL always has to butt in and split the contract, they had their run on monopoly for decades. Duplicating technology is a serious wastage of resourses, and public funds being consumed for the same, is a serious crime against the country. If they would like to run their pet projects so much, let them form a group of like minded isolationists put your own money and develop HTT-40, and try selling it in the market like their foreign counterparts do , they wouldn't even get a fucking launch customer. they have taken the Indian taxpayer for too many long rides, too much, we are simply fed up. Indian taxpayers are now not even ready to spend a paisa to bankroll HAL licence production again and again. U want a market share. Enter into a deal with Gorb, licence produce 150 G-120 as part of your share, in India there is enough carbon composite technology for a feasible technology transfer. Hal may intoduce its own components to reduce costs. Indian government buying technology for HAL would again be like US AID for pakistan, they would only ask for more and more. The stupidest thing by IAF or MOD can do in porcurement is if they back the development of HTT-40, as a desi HAL project. There is a limit to frantic indegenisation calls.
When airfoces around the world are going for consolidation and ab initio training is being outsourced, IAF has to be idiot air force to construct and maintain logistics for two ab initio trainers. Take a look at our strategic ally Israeli air force, they have outsourced initial training to the private sector, IMI does this on grob-120 it has bought. the advanced training is done on T-6 ii texan. Once its fighter pilots couldn't cope with high performance aircraft they have opted for a technical solution, that a rash solution that MOD did on HAWK, I can assure you even after LCA induction low intensity crashes would be inevitable, not because of aircraft flaw, but in the training method employed. The HawkS have no role that sitara cannot fulfil, a stage 2a is superfulous, yet does not strike at the root of the problem. the LCA tejas for all its small size would be a mach 2 capable high performance aorcraft, and a new fighter pilot losing conscious is bound to happen periodically, which would still leave IAF with one of the highest crash rates in the world. Modern aircraft have impeccable safety records for pilots, let the IAF not bring it down by its lack of quality training. Buying KT-1 or tucano becos, they are highly capable aircraft would be the biggest blunder in IAF history.
http://theasiandefence.blogspot.com/2010/05/israel-air-force-is-modifying-its-pilot.html
The only aircraft out there is G-120 and I don't see why, we prolong these decisions. Like it or not it is a single vendor situation, But u asked for it. Still $ 2.8 million per plane makes the project for 181 trainers and logistics, can be capped at $ 1 billion, then no problem for 50 years. If the bureaucrats, even take longer than dec,2010, it would be no more than trying to milk hte vendors and CBI may need too step in. So it is in IAF's best interests to select the Grob G-120 in the quickest possible time, to ensure that it does not suffer any more delays.
the following article was by a former IAF officer Gp Capt AK Sharma (Retd), its a good read
http://www.defstrat.com/exec/frmArticleDetails.aspx?DID=245
I accept that the Aircraft is fairly new and we are the launch customer for the turboprop version. But it should be noted that the certification for G-120 TP version is the latest in the competition, with airframe life of 15,000 hrs the trainer would last well over half a century. Its a great bang for the buck.
One that constantly annoys me constantly is Defense Ministry bureaucrats holding talks for years to finalise an aircraft whose company may become solvent by the time the decision is made. It is an another thing that our know it all HAL always has to butt in and split the contract, they had their run on monopoly for decades. Duplicating technology is a serious wastage of resourses, and public funds being consumed for the same, is a serious crime against the country. If they would like to run their pet projects so much, let them form a group of like minded isolationists put your own money and develop HTT-40, and try selling it in the market like their foreign counterparts do , they wouldn't even get a fucking launch customer. they have taken the Indian taxpayer for too many long rides, too much, we are simply fed up. Indian taxpayers are now not even ready to spend a paisa to bankroll HAL licence production again and again. U want a market share. Enter into a deal with Gorb, licence produce 150 G-120 as part of your share, in India there is enough carbon composite technology for a feasible technology transfer. Hal may intoduce its own components to reduce costs. Indian government buying technology for HAL would again be like US AID for pakistan, they would only ask for more and more. The stupidest thing by IAF or MOD can do in porcurement is if they back the development of HTT-40, as a desi HAL project. There is a limit to frantic indegenisation calls.
When airfoces around the world are going for consolidation and ab initio training is being outsourced, IAF has to be idiot air force to construct and maintain logistics for two ab initio trainers. Take a look at our strategic ally Israeli air force, they have outsourced initial training to the private sector, IMI does this on grob-120 it has bought. the advanced training is done on T-6 ii texan. Once its fighter pilots couldn't cope with high performance aircraft they have opted for a technical solution, that a rash solution that MOD did on HAWK, I can assure you even after LCA induction low intensity crashes would be inevitable, not because of aircraft flaw, but in the training method employed. The HawkS have no role that sitara cannot fulfil, a stage 2a is superfulous, yet does not strike at the root of the problem. the LCA tejas for all its small size would be a mach 2 capable high performance aorcraft, and a new fighter pilot losing conscious is bound to happen periodically, which would still leave IAF with one of the highest crash rates in the world. Modern aircraft have impeccable safety records for pilots, let the IAF not bring it down by its lack of quality training. Buying KT-1 or tucano becos, they are highly capable aircraft would be the biggest blunder in IAF history.
http://theasiandefence.blogspot.com/2010/05/israel-air-force-is-modifying-its-pilot.html
The only aircraft out there is G-120 and I don't see why, we prolong these decisions. Like it or not it is a single vendor situation, But u asked for it. Still $ 2.8 million per plane makes the project for 181 trainers and logistics, can be capped at $ 1 billion, then no problem for 50 years. If the bureaucrats, even take longer than dec,2010, it would be no more than trying to milk hte vendors and CBI may need too step in. So it is in IAF's best interests to select the Grob G-120 in the quickest possible time, to ensure that it does not suffer any more delays.
the following article was by a former IAF officer Gp Capt AK Sharma (Retd), its a good read
http://www.defstrat.com/exec/frmArticleDetails.aspx?DID=245
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You make several excellent points and this is area that India needs to improve on......That is the selection process of purchasing Military Hardware.
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well sorry for nuking this thread (if this news is true):
http://livefist.blogspot.com/2010/07/bae-hal-sort-out-problems-india-to-buy.html
Wednesday, July 21, 2010
BAE-HAL Sort Out Problems, India To Buy 57 More Hawk AJTs
BAE Systems has not only managed to fend off a low-intensity war with HAL over a host of problems with the Hawk advanced jet trainer license build programme, including a damages claim, but is on the threshold of receiving a fat follow-on order for 57 more Hawks to add to 66 already contracted for. All 57 will be manufactured by HAL in country. With this new development, India's RFI last year for 57 new jet trainers -- sent out when things had really soured between BAE and HAL -- is null and void, and the Hawk prevails after all. As was the plan earlier, 40 of the new order will be for the air force and 17 for the Indian Navy. HAL chairman Ashok Nayak told Hindustan Times correspondent Rahul Singh in Farnborough yesterday, "We have ironed out all niggles with BAE Systems. The deal is going to be signed soon." Just how both sides ironed out those niggles would be supremely interesting.
http://livefist.blogspot.com/2010/07/bae-hal-sort-out-problems-india-to-buy.html
Wednesday, July 21, 2010
BAE-HAL Sort Out Problems, India To Buy 57 More Hawk AJTs
BAE Systems has not only managed to fend off a low-intensity war with HAL over a host of problems with the Hawk advanced jet trainer license build programme, including a damages claim, but is on the threshold of receiving a fat follow-on order for 57 more Hawks to add to 66 already contracted for. All 57 will be manufactured by HAL in country. With this new development, India's RFI last year for 57 new jet trainers -- sent out when things had really soured between BAE and HAL -- is null and void, and the Hawk prevails after all. As was the plan earlier, 40 of the new order will be for the air force and 17 for the Indian Navy. HAL chairman Ashok Nayak told Hindustan Times correspondent Rahul Singh in Farnborough yesterday, "We have ironed out all niggles with BAE Systems. The deal is going to be signed soon." Just how both sides ironed out those niggles would be supremely interesting.
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BAE Systems has not only managed to fend off a low-intensity war with HAL over a host of problems with the Hawk advanced jet trainer license build programme, including a damages claim, but is on the threshold of receiving a fat follow-on order for 57 more Hawks to add to 66 already contracted for. All 57 will be manufactured by HAL in country. With this new development, India's RFI last year for 57 new jet trainers -- sent out when things had really soured between BAE and HAL -- is null and void, and the Hawk prevails after all. As was the plan earlier, 40 of the new order will be for the air force and 17 for the Indian Navy. HAL chairman Ashok Nayak told Hindustan Times correspondent Rahul Singh in Farnborough yesterday, "We have ironed out all niggles with BAE Systems. The deal is going to be signed soon." Just how both sides ironed out those niggles would be supremely interesting.http://livefist.blogspot.com/
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The news does not belong here. the tread is exclusively for ab initio competition, advanced trainer thread is different. For example, ab initio trainers are slow below 500 km/hr,don't carry any weapons nor do have pylons for weaponS training, the Hawk with 1000 km/hr is fitted with ample pylons for a strike attack. Military trainers are exclusively required for advanced training and is only imparted to fifhter pilots, ab initio training is compulsory for all cadets and can be done even in a civilian flight school.
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IAF to conduct test trials of Beechcraft T-6C trainer
By admin at 7 October, 2010, 2:12 pm
BY: brahmand.com
The Indian Air Force (IAF) will conduct field evaluation trials of Beechcraft T-6C military trainer from October 11, at the IAF Station Jamnagar, according to a report.
Under the five-day test trials, the instructor pilots of Indian Air Force will evaluate the trainer aircraft. The T-6C is being considered as a replacement for the IAF's HPT-32 Deepak 2 trainer.
According to the Hawker Beechcraft Corporation (HBC), the company is vying for a contract that specifies an initial purchase of 75 aircraft and options for follow-on orders that could eventually exceed 100 aircraft.
A decision on the contract is anticipated in the coming months.
"The T-6C offers the Indian Air Force the world's most proven and cost-effective training system available," Jim Maslowski, HBC president, US and International Government Business, said.
"It accommodates instruction in instrument flight procedures and basic aerial maneuvers and, including its predecessors the T-6A and T-6B, has accounted for more than 640 deliveries worldwide," he added.
HBC will also demonstrate the T-6C's maintainability as part of the evaluation.
Beechcraft T-6C military trainer is integrated with modern features; it is equipped with advanced avionics suite that greatly expands advanced training opportunities, including a head-up display, up front control panel, three multifunction displays, hands-on throttle and stick.
The aircraft can also accommodate external fuel tanks with its hard pointing wing, its systems has capabilities of today's front-line strike fighter aircraft.
Currently, the Beechcraft T-6 is used to train pilots from approximately 20 different countries.
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IAF to conduct test trials of Beechcraft T-6C trainer
By admin at 7 October, 2010, 2:12 pm
BY: brahmand.com
The Indian Air Force (IAF) will conduct field evaluation trials of Beechcraft T-6C military trainer from October 11, at the IAF Station Jamnagar, according to a report.
Under the five-day test trials, the instructor pilots of Indian Air Force will evaluate the trainer aircraft. The T-6C is being considered as a replacement for the IAF's HPT-32 Deepak 2 trainer.
According to the Hawker Beechcraft Corporation (HBC), the company is vying for a contract that specifies an initial purchase of 75 aircraft and options for follow-on orders that could eventually exceed 100 aircraft.
A decision on the contract is anticipated in the coming months.
"The T-6C offers the Indian Air Force the world's most proven and cost-effective training system available," Jim Maslowski, HBC president, US and International Government Business, said.
"It accommodates instruction in instrument flight procedures and basic aerial maneuvers and, including its predecessors the T-6A and T-6B, has accounted for more than 640 deliveries worldwide," he added.
HBC will also demonstrate the T-6C's maintainability as part of the evaluation.
Beechcraft T-6C military trainer is integrated with modern features; it is equipped with advanced avionics suite that greatly expands advanced training opportunities, including a head-up display, up front control panel, three multifunction displays, hands-on throttle and stick.
The aircraft can also accommodate external fuel tanks with its hard pointing wing, its systems has capabilities of today's front-line strike fighter aircraft.
Currently, the Beechcraft T-6 is used to train pilots from approximately 20 different countries.
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IAF to conduct test trials of Beechcraft T-6C trainer
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Yes he does. A simple honest method is to let newly qualified pilots do the flight testing rather than group captains who've had years of experience. Even a newly qualified of say an MKI is capable enough to handle the testing of a trainer. Being a freshly cleared MKI pilot, he'd know what what the students exactly need and how they feel when their basic training begins.
You know, the MOD knows all this but because Babus want money, they keep all these red tape "competitions". Wonder who was that #$%^&* who gave this idea to Anthony.
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Airbus Military's arm in pact with Mahindra for IAF contract
By admin at 19 October, 2010, 1:37 am
BY: THE HINDU
Airbus Military's subsidiary in Poland, PZL, has entered into an initial memorandum of understanding (MoU) with Mahindra and some other Indian companies to meet the offset obligations of an Indian Air Force contract.
The tender is for 75 aircraft with the first 12 being assembled in the facility of the country that wins the contract while the rest will be assembled in India.
"I do not know who will be our final co-operator, probably Mahindra.
"The issue is to organise the final assembly line of this aircraft in India as part of the offset obligation. The final choice we shall see. Mahindra is a big organisation but they do not have experience in the aviation industry," Mr Wladyslaw Skorski, Vice-President Operations Director, told a group of visiting Indian newspersons.
PZL manufacturers said the Orlik aircraft is expected at Jamnagar at the end of the month to participate in the IAF competition. Airbus Military, a sister concern of Airbus, is also "assessing and evaluating" options in India, senior company officials said.
While declining to get into specifics of the contracts for which Airbus Military will participate, Ms Barbara Kracht, Vice-President, Media Relations, told the media persons that India is a potential market for Airbus Military, which is a young organisation based on long experience of design and manufacture of military transport aircraft. Earlier this year, the Indian Government cancelled a tender for purchasing six Airbus A-330 Multi Role Tanker Transport aircraft, which are produced by Airbus Military.
The cancellation of the tender for the A-330 aircraft, the acquisition of which would facilitate refuelling IAF planes in the air, was reportedly done as sections in the Government objected to the high cost of the deal.
The deal was valued at over $1 billion.
http://idrw.org/?p=910
By admin at 19 October, 2010, 1:37 am
BY: THE HINDU
Airbus Military's subsidiary in Poland, PZL, has entered into an initial memorandum of understanding (MoU) with Mahindra and some other Indian companies to meet the offset obligations of an Indian Air Force contract.
The tender is for 75 aircraft with the first 12 being assembled in the facility of the country that wins the contract while the rest will be assembled in India.
"I do not know who will be our final co-operator, probably Mahindra.
"The issue is to organise the final assembly line of this aircraft in India as part of the offset obligation. The final choice we shall see. Mahindra is a big organisation but they do not have experience in the aviation industry," Mr Wladyslaw Skorski, Vice-President Operations Director, told a group of visiting Indian newspersons.
PZL manufacturers said the Orlik aircraft is expected at Jamnagar at the end of the month to participate in the IAF competition. Airbus Military, a sister concern of Airbus, is also "assessing and evaluating" options in India, senior company officials said.
While declining to get into specifics of the contracts for which Airbus Military will participate, Ms Barbara Kracht, Vice-President, Media Relations, told the media persons that India is a potential market for Airbus Military, which is a young organisation based on long experience of design and manufacture of military transport aircraft. Earlier this year, the Indian Government cancelled a tender for purchasing six Airbus A-330 Multi Role Tanker Transport aircraft, which are produced by Airbus Military.
The cancellation of the tender for the A-330 aircraft, the acquisition of which would facilitate refuelling IAF planes in the air, was reportedly done as sections in the Government objected to the high cost of the deal.
The deal was valued at over $1 billion.
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Indian air force testing new basic trainer
By admin at 27 October, 2010, 2:41 pm
BY: Flight International
Trials of a new basic trainer for the Indian air force have begun, with seven aircraft vying to replace the service's grounded Hindustan Aeronautics HPT-32 Deepaks.
"The trial is ongoing, but we have no timeline for making a decision," the Indian defence ministry says.
Aircraft in contention for the planned 75-aircraft deal are the Airbus Military-promoted PZL-130 Orlik, Alenia Aermacchi M-311, Embraer EMB-314 Super Tucano, Grob G120TP, Korea Aerospace Industries KT-1 and Pilatus PC-7.
Indian media reports suggest that Hawker Beechcraft's T-6C is also in contention, but the US aircraft maker has yet to confirm this.
The Indian defence ministry's initial request for proposal in early 2010 called for 75 aircraft to be purchased "off-the-shelf", and another 106 to be built by HAL under a joint venture arrangement.
Under current plans, the selected manufacturer will be required to deliver an initial batch of 12 aircraft within two years of a contract signature.
The air force's HPT-32 Deepaks were grounded in July 2009 following a spate of crashes.
Meanwhile, following New Delhi's decision in July to spend more than £700 million ($1 billion) on a further batch of 57 BAE Systems Hawk 132s, an air force source confirms that the country is no longer looking at other advanced jet trainers.
In early 2009 India requested information on the Hawk 128, plus the Aero Vodochody L-159, Alenia Aermacchi M-346, Korea Aerospace Industries/Lockheed Martin T-50, RSK MiG-AT and Yakovlev Yak-130.
India's latest deal represented a follow-on purchase to a previous order for 66 Hawk 132s. All of the new aircraft will be produced under licence by HAL in Bangalore.
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By admin at 27 October, 2010, 2:41 pm
BY: Flight International
Trials of a new basic trainer for the Indian air force have begun, with seven aircraft vying to replace the service's grounded Hindustan Aeronautics HPT-32 Deepaks.
"The trial is ongoing, but we have no timeline for making a decision," the Indian defence ministry says.
Aircraft in contention for the planned 75-aircraft deal are the Airbus Military-promoted PZL-130 Orlik, Alenia Aermacchi M-311, Embraer EMB-314 Super Tucano, Grob G120TP, Korea Aerospace Industries KT-1 and Pilatus PC-7.
Indian media reports suggest that Hawker Beechcraft's T-6C is also in contention, but the US aircraft maker has yet to confirm this.
The Indian defence ministry's initial request for proposal in early 2010 called for 75 aircraft to be purchased "off-the-shelf", and another 106 to be built by HAL under a joint venture arrangement.
Under current plans, the selected manufacturer will be required to deliver an initial batch of 12 aircraft within two years of a contract signature.
The air force's HPT-32 Deepaks were grounded in July 2009 following a spate of crashes.
Meanwhile, following New Delhi's decision in July to spend more than £700 million ($1 billion) on a further batch of 57 BAE Systems Hawk 132s, an air force source confirms that the country is no longer looking at other advanced jet trainers.
In early 2009 India requested information on the Hawk 128, plus the Aero Vodochody L-159, Alenia Aermacchi M-346, Korea Aerospace Industries/Lockheed Martin T-50, RSK MiG-AT and Yakovlev Yak-130.
India's latest deal represented a follow-on purchase to a previous order for 66 Hawk 132s. All of the new aircraft will be produced under licence by HAL in Bangalore.
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Trials over, IAF may shortlist basic trainers
The Indian Air Force (IAF) has submitted its flight evaluation report for the basic trainer aircraft it seeks to acquire, a senior IAF official has confirmed on condition of anonymity."The trials were completed by December, and the report has been submitted to the defence ministry," he said.
Five planes—the Hawker Beechcraft T-6C Texan II, the Grob G-120, the Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) KT-1, the Pilatus PC-7 and EADS' PZL-130 Orlik—are in the running for the deal.
Three people with direct knowledge of the matter independently said that, out of the five competitors, three—the T-6C Texan II, the KT-1 and the PC-7—are likely to clear flight trials.
The IAF is seeking to acquire 75 basic trainers, in a deal valued at nearly $1 billion (Rs.4,550 crore).
They will replace the HAL HPT-32 Deepak trainer aircraft that were grounded in July-August 2009 after several crashes and engine failures. The Deepak trainers are manufactured by Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL).
The IAF has been without a basic trainer since then and trainee pilots are training directly on the Stage-2 advanced jet trainer (AJT) Hawk-132. In 2004, India signed a contract with BAE Systems of the UK to acquire 66 AJTs, 24 of which were delivered in 2008. In July 2010, India signed a deal to acquire an additional 40 AJTs for the IAF and 17 for the navy.
The IAF officer cited earlier said that, as per the procedure, the lowest bidder among the shortlisted competitors would be determined.
Cost negotiations would begin after this.
According to one of the people with direct knowledge of the matter, the final contract is likely to be signed by June, as the "IAF is in urgent need for basic trainers".
Doug J. Choi, regional manager, International Business Development, Asia/South America, KAI, said thus far the company had had no official communication with the IAF.
Officials from Hawker Beechcraft and Pilatus could not be reached for comment, while the IAF spokesperson declined to comment on the matter.
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The Indian Air Force (IAF) has submitted its flight evaluation report for the basic trainer aircraft it seeks to acquire, a senior IAF official has confirmed on condition of anonymity."The trials were completed by December, and the report has been submitted to the defence ministry," he said.
Five planes—the Hawker Beechcraft T-6C Texan II, the Grob G-120, the Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) KT-1, the Pilatus PC-7 and EADS' PZL-130 Orlik—are in the running for the deal.
Three people with direct knowledge of the matter independently said that, out of the five competitors, three—the T-6C Texan II, the KT-1 and the PC-7—are likely to clear flight trials.
The IAF is seeking to acquire 75 basic trainers, in a deal valued at nearly $1 billion (Rs.4,550 crore).
They will replace the HAL HPT-32 Deepak trainer aircraft that were grounded in July-August 2009 after several crashes and engine failures. The Deepak trainers are manufactured by Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL).
The IAF has been without a basic trainer since then and trainee pilots are training directly on the Stage-2 advanced jet trainer (AJT) Hawk-132. In 2004, India signed a contract with BAE Systems of the UK to acquire 66 AJTs, 24 of which were delivered in 2008. In July 2010, India signed a deal to acquire an additional 40 AJTs for the IAF and 17 for the navy.
The IAF officer cited earlier said that, as per the procedure, the lowest bidder among the shortlisted competitors would be determined.
Cost negotiations would begin after this.
According to one of the people with direct knowledge of the matter, the final contract is likely to be signed by June, as the "IAF is in urgent need for basic trainers".
Doug J. Choi, regional manager, International Business Development, Asia/South America, KAI, said thus far the company had had no official communication with the IAF.
Officials from Hawker Beechcraft and Pilatus could not be reached for comment, while the IAF spokesperson declined to comment on the matter.
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India completes basic trainer trials
India has completed flight trials for its new basic trainer aircraft, with the country's ministry of defence now considering the air force's flight evaluations.
"The flight evaluations are over, the reports are with the ministry, and the next step will be contract negotiations," says the Indian air force.
The service adds that a selection should be made quickly, although it did not provide a specific date. "We require trainers more than anything else, so the selection will be expedited."In contention for the planned 75-aircraft deal are the Airbus Military-promoted PZL-130 Orlik, Alenia Aermacchi M-311, Embraer EMB-314 Super Tucano, Grob G120TP, Korea Aerospace Industries KT-1 and Pilatus PC-7.
Indian media reports have suggested the Beechcraft T-6C is also in contention, but the US manufacturer has not confirmed this.
The Indian defence ministry's initial request for proposals in early 2010 called for 75 aircraft to be purchased "off-the-shelf", and another 106 to be built by Hindustan Aeronautics under a joint venture.
Under current plans, the selected manufacturer will be required to deliver an initial batch of 12 aircraft within two years of a contract signature.
The air force's HAL HPT-32 Deepak basic trainers were grounded in July 2009 following a spate of crashes.
India also wants to develop and indigenous replacement to the HPT-32. At the recent Aero India show, a model of the proposed HTT-40 was on display at the HAL stand.
The HTT-40 will have an 11m (36ft) wing span, a fuselage length of 11.3m and a maximum take-off weight of 2,800kg (6,170lb). The type will be capable of flying at a maximum speed of 243kt (450km/h) and at altitudes up to 19,700ft.
India has completed flight trials for its new basic trainer aircraft, with the country's ministry of defence now considering the air force's flight evaluations.
"The flight evaluations are over, the reports are with the ministry, and the next step will be contract negotiations," says the Indian air force.
The service adds that a selection should be made quickly, although it did not provide a specific date. "We require trainers more than anything else, so the selection will be expedited."In contention for the planned 75-aircraft deal are the Airbus Military-promoted PZL-130 Orlik, Alenia Aermacchi M-311, Embraer EMB-314 Super Tucano, Grob G120TP, Korea Aerospace Industries KT-1 and Pilatus PC-7.
Indian media reports have suggested the Beechcraft T-6C is also in contention, but the US manufacturer has not confirmed this.
The Indian defence ministry's initial request for proposals in early 2010 called for 75 aircraft to be purchased "off-the-shelf", and another 106 to be built by Hindustan Aeronautics under a joint venture.
Under current plans, the selected manufacturer will be required to deliver an initial batch of 12 aircraft within two years of a contract signature.
The air force's HAL HPT-32 Deepak basic trainers were grounded in July 2009 following a spate of crashes.
India also wants to develop and indigenous replacement to the HPT-32. At the recent Aero India show, a model of the proposed HTT-40 was on display at the HAL stand.
The HTT-40 will have an 11m (36ft) wing span, a fuselage length of 11.3m and a maximum take-off weight of 2,800kg (6,170lb). The type will be capable of flying at a maximum speed of 243kt (450km/h) and at altitudes up to 19,700ft.
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Pilateus forges ahead in India's $1Bn trainer aircraft contract
The Pilateus PCT has reportedly forged ahead in the Indian Air Force (IAF) competition to buy a new basic trainer aircraft. Two others, the Korean Aerospace KT-1 and the Hawker-Beechcraft T-6C Texan-II make up the final short list of three out of the six aircraft which participated in the flight trials last year.
Informed industry sources told defensworld.net that the three made the shortlist after the end of the technical evaluation round in May this year. The financial evaluation commenced soon after and the Pilateus PCT has the lowest bid which places it in an advantageous position if the rest of the considerations are equal among the three.
However, this information could not be confirmed from the Indian MoD which as a policy does not comment on ongoing procurement. Reports have been going around in the Indian online media from May about the emergence of Pilateus PCT as the lowest bidder but there has been no official information from the MoD.
There were originally six contenders in the fray: Grob G-120 TP, Embraer's EMB-312 Super Tucano, Korea Aerospace Industries' KT-1, Finmeccanica's M-311, Beechcraft T-6C and Pilatus' PC-7. They are among a dozen companies to whom the IAF had sent its request for proposal.
The deal for the basic trainer when finalised will amount to about $ 1 billion. The total number that will be required will be close to 200, part of which will be supplied by the selected vendor, while the rest will be manufactured by Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd in India under licence.
Pilateus forges ahead in IndiaÂ’s $1Bn trainer aircraft contract: reports : Defense news
The Pilateus PCT has reportedly forged ahead in the Indian Air Force (IAF) competition to buy a new basic trainer aircraft. Two others, the Korean Aerospace KT-1 and the Hawker-Beechcraft T-6C Texan-II make up the final short list of three out of the six aircraft which participated in the flight trials last year.
Informed industry sources told defensworld.net that the three made the shortlist after the end of the technical evaluation round in May this year. The financial evaluation commenced soon after and the Pilateus PCT has the lowest bid which places it in an advantageous position if the rest of the considerations are equal among the three.
However, this information could not be confirmed from the Indian MoD which as a policy does not comment on ongoing procurement. Reports have been going around in the Indian online media from May about the emergence of Pilateus PCT as the lowest bidder but there has been no official information from the MoD.
There were originally six contenders in the fray: Grob G-120 TP, Embraer's EMB-312 Super Tucano, Korea Aerospace Industries' KT-1, Finmeccanica's M-311, Beechcraft T-6C and Pilatus' PC-7. They are among a dozen companies to whom the IAF had sent its request for proposal.
The deal for the basic trainer when finalised will amount to about $ 1 billion. The total number that will be required will be close to 200, part of which will be supplied by the selected vendor, while the rest will be manufactured by Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd in India under licence.
Pilateus forges ahead in IndiaÂ’s $1Bn trainer aircraft contract: reports : Defense news
