India Plans to buy S-400

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  1. Agnostic_Indian

    Agnostic_Indian Regular Member

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    we have two separate seups for misslile defence. Askash etc for fighter jets and cruise missiles and AAD and PAD for ballistic missile defence. S400 is the jack of all trades..and probably the master of none..why buy it when we have our own specilised setup.it would have made sense if the procurement was a few years back but now it is unnecessary since our systems are ready.
     
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    Agnostic_Indian Regular Member

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    Cant akash/barak/other LRSAMunder development also do the same thing?
     
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    Hari Sud Senior Member Senior Member

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    Think of price and our capability to pay at $500 a system. India needs twelve systems as is published in various websites.

    It can come only if we cancel Rafale.
     
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    r u talking of HAL and DRDO??

    :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:
     
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    What about TENDER??? and another TENDER and another TENDER price negotiations for 30 yrs and buy S-400 when S-1000 comes in the market:biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2:
     
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    NSG_Blackcats Member of The Month OCTOBER 2009 Senior Member

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    This will be a G-G deal. So no tender.
     
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    that is against the constitution of India .i will protest in front of international court of justice in holland.

    india can not have S-400 before 30 yrs and 20 cancel tenders:biggrin2::biggrin2::biggrin2:
     
  8. SajeevJino

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    The S 400 has two type of missiles one has the Active seeker another has semi active, used to kill Ballistic, Cruise missiles and Fighters at long range.

    means the engagement range far from the base .. mostly above 200 kilometers, currently IAF has no such Missile defense systems.

    The upcoming MRSAM has the on board seeker for fire and forget, while Akash still need ground Radar's guidance for it's entire flight, I'm still thinking as someone said the Akash can be guided in Terminal phase using AEWCS ..and I think it's still on books
     
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    I think we merely buy one or squadron of S 400, which reduces the use of Fighters and 24x7 availability rates and less maintenance costs compared to Fighter jets.

    each squad consists of six to eight VLS launchers and associated equipment like Grave stone, Big bird, Re loader, command post and power generators.

    and don't worry ..I sure it comes less than some $1.5 billions
     
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    SajeevJino Long walk Elite Member

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    As they said it's a G-G deal, then what the need of DAC clearance, they can move on contract negotiations and cabinet approval and deal inking ..which can be easily done before the PM's visits to Russia.

    If they move via DAC and other things , then we have to wait for 2025 to operate first S 400
     
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  11. bengalraider

    bengalraider DFI Technocrat Stars and Ambassadors

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    The Russians have apparently started the production of S500 units, the first deliveries to the Russian Military are expected in 2017.
     
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    SajeevJino Long walk Elite Member

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    I have no idea, how they going to integrate, Russian, Indian, Israeli and French Radar systems into one umbrella

    can this achievable @bengalraider
     
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    No! the S400 is in a league of it's own when it comes to advanced air defence systems!
     
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    bengalraider DFI Technocrat Stars and Ambassadors

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    I believe we are already doing something of this sort with our plan for an intergrated airspace network(ACCS) that will integrate all of the civilian and military radars in India to provide a seamless view of Air traffic in the region.This is the kind of integration that Taiwan already possesses to deter Chinese incursions.

     
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    aww ..very thanks for the light up ..!! I feel it could be done ..!!
     
  16. Bheeshma

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    The S-350 is more compact and carries more missiles. With 150 Km range Mr-SAm I don't know why we need this. DRDO can deliver 250 km range SAM from AAD if required.
     
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    Because the 400 km (40N6 missile) lets us have the option of Destroying Pakistani airplanes as soon as they take off from almost all Pakistani Airbases!
     
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    What is in the works is a complete multi modal air defence network as described below
    1)AA guns / Tungushka/ manpads- 0 to 10km interception
    2) SPYDER- 15km interception, this is to be replaced the the MAITRI SAM once development is complete.
    3)AKASH- 25 km interception
    4)MRSAM/BARAK 8- 90KM
    5) S400- 120 to 400km

    There is a complete overhaul of our air defence network in progress, the S400 is simply the top end of that overhaul!
     
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    What?? Russians are using Tata trucks?
     
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    bengalraider DFI Technocrat Stars and Ambassadors

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    Yes, they're trying to Mount their stuff on our trucks so they're more palatable to us.
     

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