India-Pakistan parity An embarrassing obsession

[ajtr]

^^and then he comeback to india and wish to play in future IPL

Tanvir hopes to play in IPL in future

2010-04-16 22:50:00
Pakistani pacer Sohail Tanvir, who finished as the top wicket-taker in the maiden edition of the Indian Premier League (IPL), is hopeful of playing in the future chapters of the event.

Tanvir and his compatriots could not turn out in the ongoing IPL-3 due to visa-related problems.

Asked whether he was missing the IPL, Tanvir said: 'Definitely. I got lot of respect in the first season.'

The left arm medium pacer, who occasionally bowls spin, had taken 22 wickets in the 2008 IPL.

Tanvir, who came to India to attend the marriage of former Pakistan cricket captain Shoaib Malik with tennis star Sania Mirza, said he was hoping to return to the league once the 'situation changes'.

'Pakistani cricketers are liked in India. And IPL is an international tournament where lot of players from different parts of the world take part. This year also we thought we will be playing. But the night before we were to catch the flight we were told we cannot play.'

Tanvir is in the city to watch his former IPL team Rajasthan Royals take on Kolkata Knight Riders at the Eden Gardens Saturday.

'My wishes are with Rajasthan Royals. I was part of the team. Hope they play well tomorrow and qualify for the semi finals,' he said.

Praising Rajasthan Royals captain Shane Warne, he said: 'Shane Warne is a great captain. He is a fighter.'

Tanvir said he had enjoyed every minute of the marriage ceremony of Shoaib and Sania.

'I did lot of work too. I got to see how Indian marriages take place,' he said.

Asked if the marriage would improve India-Pakistan relations, he said: 'Of course. It's a union of two stars. It will impact India-Pakistan relations.'

 

[ajtr]

Btw title of this thread and the news report is misleading.its not india which sought parity with pakistan but its other way round.
just for example:

1.Seeking nuclear parity with India, Pak re-opens Khan of worms

2.At Paris meet, Pak seeks parity with India to be 'n-powered'

3. Treat Pakistan at par with India, Gilani tells EU


so its the pakistan which is obesessed with india but not the other way round.

 

[Vinod2070]

O the topic of Tanvir, while he has behaved like a "dutkara hua kutta" (kicked out dog) that keeps coming back in the hopes of some piece of meat being thrown in his direction, I find it unbelievable that idiots like him are freely visiting India!

Why do people like Shoaib or Tanvir have Indian visas. We have thrown them out of IPL. They have no reason to be in India. India should grant these people only specific visas when they have some valid sport commitment in India, just to visit the specific locations on the days of the matches. We don't want these people roaming around India for no reason. At least not when LET and Hafiz Saeed are still roaming free in Pakistan plotting the next massacre.

We should make it clear that there is no role for any Pakistani in any future IPL.

 

[Vinod2070]

Btw title of this thread and the news report is misleading.its not india which sought parity with pakistan but its other way round.
just for example:

1.Seeking nuclear parity with India, Pak re-opens Khan of worms

2.At Paris meet, Pak seeks parity with India to be 'n-powered'

3. Treat Pakistan at par with India, Gilani tells EU


so its the pakistan which is obesessed with india but not the other way round.

Absolutely. It is madness to suggest that India seeks parity with Pakistan!

That is like an abuse to India.

 

[BunBunCake]

We should make it clear that there is no role for any Pakistani in any future IPL.

Why?
Isn't that a bit arrogant?
I personally like to see Pakistani players in IPL.

 

[Vinod2070]

Why?
Isn't that a bit arrogant?
I personally like to see Pakistani players in IPL.

Why not! Nothing arrogant about it.

When they are sending terrorists to India with state support, we need to hit back every which way.

This hits them particularly bad as we have seen.

 

[BunBunCake]

Why not! Nothing arrogant about it.

When they are sending terrorists to India with state support, we need to hit back every which way.

This hits them particularly bad as we have seen.

Because the average Pakistani isn't sending those terrorists. Blame the government. Why the people?
Sports doesn't have to be related to politics at all. Those cricketers don't support the terrorists. They simply want to play cricket.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Pakistan has tried to keep parity with India in only one area in the military side. This attempt at parity has been achieved thru the mercy and charity of different nations. USA gives assistannce thru aid and old military equipment. China gives assistance thru donating or giving soft loans for weapons they have reversed engineered and using Pakistan as the guinea pigs. Pakistan's relentless pursuit of it's nuclear program is proof that it has little or no faith in it's conventional weapons. In the attempt at achieving this parity Pakistan has sacrificed development, if Pakistan had tried to achieve economic parity it would have been better for the nation as a whole. The pursuit of parity will never be achieved by Pakistan simply because there is no economic base to achieve this.

 

[Vinod2070]

Because the average Pakistani isn't sending those terrorists. Blame the government. Why the people?
Sports doesn't have to be related to politics at all. Those cricketers don't support the terrorists. They simply want to play cricket.

That's a bit simplistic. There is enough popular support for these terrorists that operate against India.

Many of these cricketers have made anti-India remarks as well. Tanvir with his "Hindu jeheniyat" comment is just one, there are several more including Imran Khan and Afridi who come here to make money and respectability and then go back and badmouth India. Afridi's cousin was killed in Kashmir as a terrorist. He has reportedly made filthy comments about Indian women.

We just don't want these double faced people here, to make money and then turn on the hand that feeds them.

We don't need to act so mushy when that country is daily plotting terror attacks against us. Let them stop that and we can also take steps towards better ties.

 

[Vinod2070]

Pakistan has tried to keep parity with India in only one area in the military side. This attempt at parity has been achieved thru the mercy and charity of different nations. USA gives assistannce thru aid and old military equipment. China gives assistance thru donating or giving soft loans for weapons they have reversed engineered and using Pakistan as the guinea pigs. Pakistan's relentless pursuit of it's nuclear program is proof that it has little or no faith in it's conventional weapons. In the attempt at achieving this parity Pakistan has sacrificed development, if Pakistan had tried to achieve economic parity it would have been better for the nation as a whole. The pursuit of parity will never be achieved by Pakistan simply because there is no economic base to achieve this.

Well, its a pursuit that is destined to be doomed. They can't keep up militarily with India, an economy an order of magnitude larger and the difference increasing every day.

They will still try that and make sure the economy is doomed as well.

 

[LETHALFORCE]

Well, its a pursuit that is destined to be doomed. They can't keep up militarily with India, an economy an order of magnitude larger and the difference increasing every day.

They will still try that and make sure the economy is doomed as well.

They have been trying for the last few decades and the results speak for themselves. The biggest mistake they have made is failing to achieve better relations, if relations were better with India it would have benefitted Pakistan too in much more ways then their Chinese or American master slave relations have done for them.

 

[Vinod2070]

They have been trying for the last few decades and the results speak for themselves. The biggest mistake they have made is failing to achieve better relations, if relations were better with India it would have benefitted Pakistan too in much more ways then their Chinese or American master slave relations have done for them.

Yes, they have a morbid fear of accepting Indian domination. This fear has made them client state of USA/China/Saudis already.

Of course, they will blame it all on India as well. Just typical.

 

[Iamanidiot]

I say they are chugging their way to self-destruct at full-steam.Citizens are guinea pigs,cannon fodder for their whisky swivelling generals and landlords.The qustion is on whom will their terror flankies turn when they find out they can't fuck up with India.The pak army itself

 

[Rayala]

Yes, they have a morbid fear of accepting Indian domination. This fear has made them client state of USA/China/Saudis already.

Of course, they will blame it all on India as well. Just typical.

Vinod, if they could accept India's domination, they could as well have stayed within Indian union! They created a separate country because they would not want to live in a hindu majority country, why will they accept such a country's domination over their self declared 'islamic' nation? So, naturally, they will welcome the opportunity to be client state of any country as long as they can stop India from being the dominant nation of the region.

Thus, as long as Pakistan exists in its present form, it cannot accept India's domination of the region. It will do everthing in its power to stop India's march. Today, Bangladesh accepts India's dominant role but would East Pakistan accept the India's dominant role?

 

[Rayala]

Why?
Isn't that a bit arrogant?
I personally like to see Pakistani players in IPL.

Let me give you a crude analogy: Lets say X and Y are neighbors. X and Y both have sons. Their sons play cricket together. X's wife is raped by Y everyday. X complaints to the local cop, but the local cop does nothing because he has secret dealings with Y. So, Y continues to rape X's wife. X and his wife are extremely angry but can do nothing. But they forbid Y's kid from visiting their house. Some people then argue that why is Y's kid being denied entry, Y's kid is not raping X's wife. They say that sports should not be mixed with politics.

Replace X with India, Y with Pakistan, kids with sportsmen, local cop with US and rape with terrorism.

The money earned by these pakistani sportsmen in IPL goes directly or indirectly into the coffers of terrorists. These sportsmen will pay some taxes to their Govt, or to terroristNGOs like JuD. Then that money gets diverted into terrorist activities. That means Indian money is used to fund terrorism against India. Should India allow it? Should Indians tolerate it?

 

[ahmedsid]

Let me give you a crude analogy: Lets say X and Y are neighbors. X and Y both have sons. Their sons play cricket together. X's wife is raped by Y everyday. X complaints to the local cop, but the local cop does nothing because he has secret dealings with Y. So, Y continues to rape X's wife. X and his wife are extremely angry but can do nothing. But they forbid Y's kid from visiting their house. Some people then argue that why is Y's kid being denied entry, Y's kid is not raping X's wife. They say that sports should not be mixed with politics.

Replace X with India, Y with Pakistan, kids with sportsmen, local cop with US and rape with terrorism.

The money earned by these pakistani sportsmen in IPL goes directly or indirectly into the coffers of terrorists. These sportsmen will pay some taxes to their Govt, or to terroristNGOs like JuD. Then that money gets diverted into terrorist activities. That means Indian money is used to fund terrorism against India. Should India allow it? Should Indians tolerate it?

LOL what a connection you just made!

One point I would like to say is that, you are jumping over the stable when you say the Pakistani Players will send their money to the terrorists hahah Then Who the heck is gonna pay them for their Whiskey and Girls? Come on dude, you just went overboard! Pakistani Cricketers are the worst hypocrites in recent times, they did have good players, and they have links with the betting world, but sending money directly to terrorists? Na!

 

[Known_Unknown]

Come on dude, you just went overboard! Pakistani Cricketers are the worst hypocrites in recent times, they did have good players, and they have links with the betting world, but sending money directly to terrorists? Na!

Problem is, JuD, Hizbul Mujahideen etc aren't seen as terrorist groups in Pak. They often blatantly set up stalls outside mosques asking for donations for the "jihad" in Kashmir. And a lot of people donate, thinking they're giving money to a righteous cause. The cricketers might be doing the same. In any case, there's no reason we should give them the benefit of doubt.

 

[BunBunCake]

Let me give you a crude analogy: Lets say X and Y are neighbors. X and Y both have sons. Their sons play cricket together. X's wife is raped by Y everyday. X complaints to the local cop, but the local cop does nothing because he has secret dealings with Y. So, Y continues to rape X's wife. X and his wife are extremely angry but can do nothing. But they forbid Y's kid from visiting their house. Some people then argue that why is Y's kid being denied entry, Y's kid is not raping X's wife. They say that sports should not be mixed with politics.

Replace X with India, Y with Pakistan, kids with sportsmen, local cop with US and rape with terrorism.

The money earned by these pakistani sportsmen in IPL goes directly or indirectly into the coffers of terrorists. These sportsmen will pay some taxes to their Govt, or to terroristNGOs like JuD. Then that money gets diverted into terrorist activities. That means Indian money is used to fund terrorism against India. Should India allow it? Should Indians tolerate it?

Dude you are one smart a$$.
Wa Wa. I haven't heard anything better than this.

 

[prahladh]

Come on Guys, Modi & other teams should allow Pak Players in IPL. Especially Afridi, After all how much does a ball cost!