India-Nepal relationship

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  1. Hindustani78

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    Cabinet approves MoU between India and Nepal on Drug Demand Reduction and Prevention of Illicit Trafficking in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances and precursor chemicals and related matters
    The Union Cabinet chaired by the Prime Minister Shri Narendra Modi today has given its approval for signing of a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) between India and Nepal on Drug Demand Reduction and Prevention of Illicit Trafficking in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances and precursor chemicals and related matters.




    Cabinet approves MoU between India and Nepal for laying down implementation arrangement for construction of a new Bridge over Mechi River at Indo-Nepal border

    The Union Cabinet chaired by Prime Minister Shri Narendra Modi today approved a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) to be signed between India and Nepal for laying down implementation arrangement on Cost sharing, Schedules and Safeguard issues for starting construction of a new Bridge over Mechi River at Indo-Nepal border.
     
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    http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/na...rks-on-indo-nepal-friendship-tour/524925.html


    Darjeeling (WB), January 7

    Officials of a college community radio in Darjeeling on Sunday set out on an ‘Indo-Nepal Friendship Tour’, with a team of radio jockeys visiting seven institutions in the Himalayan nation.

    The week-long tour, essentially a road show on car, is managed by the alumni of Salesian College Sonada (SCS) here, and marks its 80th year celebrations, as well as the 25th year of the Don Bosco Society, Nepal.

    The event also marks the first anniversary of ‘Radio Salesian’ — considered to be the first college radio in Bengal and the entire North East India.

    The journey began this morning from Sonada, passing through the Indo-Nepal Kakrabitta border near Siliguri and proceeded to Dharan from where the Don Bosco Centre, Nepal, took over and reached Kathmandu in West Nepal.

    The team members include station director and SCS vice-principal Prof C M Paul, along with programme coordinator and radio jockey Samir Chhetri, senior radio jockey Sagar Rai and driver Kabi Rai.

    “The programme will consist of visiting Don Bosco institutions, as well as plus-two (senior secondary) schools along the way (Kakrabitta, Birtamod, Dharan, Biratnagar, Ithari and Kathmandu) to promote higher education in Salesian College, Darjeeling and the Siliguri campus,” said Paul.

    Chhetri added, “We will also make radio programmmes on 25 years of Nepal Don Bosco Society and interact with community radio stations, especially in Dharan - the cradle of Don Bosco Society in Nepal.”

    The Nepal Don Bosco Society began in 1992 with the Dharan centre, in eastern Nepal, initiated by the late Fr George Alakulam, who ventured out from Don Bosco School, Mirik.

    The Salesians then reached Sirsia (1996), followed by the capital, Kathmandu, with two centres - in Lubhu, established in 1996, and Thecho in 2001 – after which came Baroul and Chakkarghatty (2014) in East Nepal.

    This was followed by Biratnagar in 2017, and the total of seven houses are managed by 18 Salesians from various states across India.

    The Society is engaged in a variety of ministries (activities) dedicated to the country’s young people. PTI
     
  3. Hindustani78

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    http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...-man-s-land/story-BBQS4HiOvDzU4uspAGTgUI.html

    India and Nepal have reached an agreement to resolve differences on reconstructing damaged pillars along the mutual border and clearing the encroachment on the “No Man’s Land”, an Indian official said here on Monday.

    The agreement was reached during a meeting of Indian and Nepalese officials at the SSB Group centre here, Balrampur District Magistrate Rakesh Kumar Misra said.

    Six Nepalese officials and officials from five districts of Uttar Pradesh took part in the meeting, he said.

    India and Nepal will soon start reconstructing the damaged pillars and clear the “No Man’s Land” of encroachers, said Misra, the nodal officer for the Indian side.

    A team to survey the border areas for the purpose has arrived in Balrampur, Misra said, adding that the work to be carried out on the border has been divided into three parts.

    They include identifying the damaged pillars, reconstructing them and clearing the No Man’s Land.

    Misra said the Sashastra Seema Bal (SSB), the Public Works Department, Revenue Department, and the Nepali Police will contribute to the process.

    He hoped the resolution of differences will help in strengthening ties between the people of the two countries.

    Hariprasad Mailani, the nodal officer of the Nepalese side, said no one will be allowed to misbehave with the Indian people and jawans in Nepal.

    The SSB, which works under the the Union Home Ministry, is tasked with guarding the 1,751-km India-Nepal border.

    Uttar Pradesh shares a 599.3-km open border with Nepal touching seven districts - Pilibhit, Lakhimpur Kheri, Bahraich, Sravasti, Balrampur, Sidhharthnagar and Maharajganj.
     
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    http://www.hindustantimes.com/india...rder-issues/story-2DC3bra1ciHHMQnZ2HY6YP.html

    India, Nepal officials meet to resolve border issues

    The officials resolved to repair and re-erect the damaged and missing pillars meant for border demarcation.
    Updated: Jan 14, 2018 15:26 IST
    Hindustan Times, Motihari
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    Indian and Nepalese governments had erected around 8,000 pillars to demarcate the boundary along the 1,749-kilometer border.(PTI FILE PHOTO)


    • In order to check frequent confrontations between people from either sides and prevent rapid encroachment of no-man’s land, officials of India and Nepal led by their Field Survey Teams (FST) on Saturday met in Bihar’s Motihari and amicably resolved to repair and re-erect the damaged and missing pillars meant for border demarcation.

      Top administrative officials of Motihari, Bettiah and Sashastra Seema Bal (SSB) officials from the 55, 47, 44 and 20th battalions represented the Indian side while administrative officials from Bara and Parsa districts of Nepal attended the meeting.

      Indian and Nepalese governments had erected around 8,000 pillars to demarcate the boundary along the 1,749-kilometer border. However, with passage of time, most of these pillars have been damaged or have gone missing. This has led to massive encroachments and infiltration of people into each others’ territories with the no-man’s land in several areas virtually disappearing.

      Over the last few years, people from either sides, including forest officials, have indulged in skirmishes and confrontations over border disputes. Last year, people from Chhaudano village on Indian side and Kaliya village on Nepal side fought a pitched battle over border dispute, compelling senior officials from the two sides to intervene and separate them.

      In West Champaran’s Sushta area, the river has changed its course drastically over the last few years, washing away several demarcation pillars. In the process, it has disputed at least 6,000 acres of land along the forested stretch.

      Forest officials of both the countries often trade accuse each other of trespassing into each other’s territories.

      At the Saturday meeting, officials of both countries resolved to end all contentions issues related to border through bilateral discussion and re-instate the pillars at their actual locations as suggested by the two survey teams.

      Both sides also agreed to call a meeting of FST at Bara in Nepal soon to discuss further course of action and resolve any issues related to the survey.

      The resolution signed by both the nations said that the pillar repairing, erection and the ongoing survey work would be intensified at many locations. If need be, the two survey teams would carry out a fresh survey for identification and fixing of missing pillars.

      Saturday’s meeting, however, did not raise the issue of equipping the pillars with satellite navigation.

      During the third meeting of India-Nepal Boundary Working Group (BWG) and field survey team held in Birgunj in June 2016, Nepal’s ministry of foreign affairs had announced that both the nations would enable their border pillars with GPS.

      Motihari DM Raman Kumar, who had attended the meeting, said, directions have been issued to SSB, circle officers and sub-divisional officers to monitor the pillar construction works and initiate punitive action against people who have encroached no-man’s land.

      “The Nepali side has also agreed to initiate similar action,” Kumar said.
     
  5. Villager

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    Deepening ties with China to get more leverage with India: KP Oli


    Oli wants to "update" relations with India "in keeping with the times"

    He called for a review of all special provisions of the Indo-Nepal relations

    "We don't want to depend on one country or have one option," he said

    We have great connectivity with India and an open border. All that's fine and we'll increase connectivity even further, but we can't forget that we have two neighbours. We don't want to depend on one country or have one option," he told Hong Kong's South China Morning Post in an interview.

    About how he plans to work out relations with India, Mr Oli said, "We've always had excellent relations with India. There were some elements in the Indian establishment that caused some misunderstanding, but Indian leaders have assured us that there will be no interference in the future and we will respect each other's sovereign rights".

    About Nepalese serving in the Indian Army, Mr Oli said, "This should be internally and mutually discussed and corrected, if necessary. We live in a new world, and Nepal is starting a new journey, we have to update whatever is considered outdated and bring it in line with the modern era."

    Mr Oli also said he would revive the China-backed USD 2.5 billion hydropower project which was scrapped by the previous government.

    Mr Oli justified his decision to build the dam with Chinese company saying that "our petroleum usage has been increasing but we import all of it. We urgently need to develop hydropower to reduce our dependence on petroleum."

    He sees infrastructure development as an important means to narrow the distance with China, whose physical remoteness compared with next-door India is a hindrance to deeper Sino-Nepal relations, the paper said.

    He also spoke about improving rail and road network between Nepal and China through Tibet.

    "Once China brings its rail network up to Shigatse and then Kyirong in Tibet, it should be easy to extend it to Nepal. It s lower altitude than Tibet, and the terrain is actually sloping all the way down from Kyirong.

    "Apart from that, three roads are under construction connecting China and Nepal, which should be ready in a couple of years. If we can connect this railway network to our east-west rail project, it can revolutionise China-India trade, with Nepal in the middle," he said.

    China aims to extend the Qinghai-Tibet railway to the Nepal border by 2020 and has expressed interest in extending it to Kathmandu. Kyirong in Tibet is about 25km from Nepal's Rasuwagadhi border transit point, which is 50km from Kathmandu.
     
  6. Adioz

    Adioz शक्तिः दुर्दम्येच्छाशक्त्याः आगच्छति Senior Member

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    This is bad. We need to drop this fu**er. I expected thing to go South after he got elected, but the pace of this is surprising.

    But its not going to be so easy to take this away. There are 90,000 Indian Army pensioners in Nepal. There are clear limits to what Oli can achieve in one term. Lets just hope that GoI is able to hatch a plan that wins back support of India from the local population of Nepal. We need to ensure that Oli's moves become unpopular and he is denied a re-election next time.

    To put things in perspective:-
    Gorkhas of the Indian Army and India-Nepal Relations
     
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  7. Villager

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    Most nepalis working in India seem to support communist government. Bangladesh would be next to kick us. Chinks also helping neutralize Baloch insurgents.
     
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    Indian embassy in Nepal’s Biratnagar attacked yesterday, west side wall damaged. 2 people on motorcycle planted the bomb. Sources say, possible role of ISI behind the attack and also say that they are planning attacks on other Indian embassies also


     
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    Ministry of Defence
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    Curtain Raiser: India-Nepal Joint Battalion Level Exercise SURYA KIRAN-XIII

    Joint Military Exercise SURYA KIRAN-XIII between India and Nepal will be conducted at Pithoragarh from 30 May to 12 June 2018. The exercise will comprise of nearly 300 soldiers from both Indian and Nepal Army who would be sharing their experiences gained during conduct of various counter insurgency and counter terrorism operations in the past.

    Exercise SURYA KIRAN is a biannual event which is conducted alternatively in Nepal and India. Notably in the series of military training exercises undertaken by India with various countries, Exercise SURYA KIRAN with Nepal is the largest in terms of troop participation. The aim of this exercise is to conduct battalion level joint training with emphasis on counter terrorism operations in mountainous terrain. During the exercise, aspects of disaster management and joint effort towards relief work have also been included.

    The joint military exercise will enhance the level of defence cooperation which will further strengthen the bilateral relations between the two nations.


    Col Aman Anand

    PRO (Army)
     
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    Dear Nepal
    Take money from ISI ,pakistan and Trash India shamelessly while India keeps her promises on reconstruction of Nepal
    What did pakis give Nepal? BEEF for the hungry Nepal people, post earth quake
    :D


    Over 70% India-aided reconstructions completed following Nepal quake

    The United Nations Development Programme (UNDP) and the United Nations Office for Project Services (UNOPS) on Friday said that over 70 per cent of 50,000 houses which are being reconstructed through Indian aid following the 2015 Nepal earthquake have been built.

    A 7.8 magnitude earthquake jolted Nepal in April 2015, leaving around 9,000 people dead in its wake and flattening scores of structures, including the prominent Dharahara Tower in Kathmandu. Following this, the Indian authorities pledged about USD one billion for reconstruction in Nepal in the form of grants and lines of credit.

    Out of this, USD 150 million had been allocated for reconstruction in the housing sector, USD 100 million as grants and USD 50 million was to be drawn as a line of credit.

    The construction of 50,000 houses in the Nepalese districts of Gorkha (26,912 beneficiaries) and Nuwakot (23,088 beneficiaries) is being supported by India. The Indian authorities had appointed UNDP and UNOPS as the socio-technical facilitation consultants for Gorkha and Nuwakot, respectively, in March last year.

    In Gorkha district, which was the epicenter of the Nepal earthquake, 70 per cent of the reconstruction has been completed, according to UNDP.

    "In Gorkha district, we have been giving support to 26,912 beneficiaries as part of the India-aided project. Among them, 70 per cent of the beneficiaries have constructed their house, 20 per cent are under construction and 10 per cent are yet to be constructed," Ram Sapkota, the district coordinator for the Government of India-supported Nepal Housing Reconstruction Project Gorkha told ANI.

    Similarly, a total of 18,841 beneficiaries had completed the reconstruction of their houses in Nuwakot by March-end, data provided by UNOPS outlined. The agency added that a total of 2,767 beneficiaries have ongoing constructions in the district whereas 805 beneficiaries are yet to start their reconstruction.

    The Indian effort has been widely appreciated by the locals. "The Indian government has helped us in building new houses with extensive research and investigation which is being liked by many, the new system of building the new houses using wires. They came over to Nepali villages and taught us the method of construction," said Ganesh Magar, one of the beneficiaries in Gorkha district whose house is being built through Indian support.

    https://www.business-standard.com/a...ted-following-nepal-quake-119042600496_1.html
     
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    We were on the verge of annexing the Madheshi areas. The people were out on the streets wanting to join India. IDK what happened but had we pressed on, we'd have had a Sikkim 2.0. It's not worth it to perpetually play this Game of Thrones with smaller nations. Our Chicken's neck vulnerability will get sorted with Bhutan and Nepal officially inside India. The Madheshis are all Modi bhakts. One word and they're all in.

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  12. Bhadra

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    Such irresponsible and unmindful statement you make without regard to the feelings and sentiments of others.
    What is Madesi ? You mean to say Bihari babuwas and UP Bhaiyas ?
    India is worried about saving their asses (madesis) in Nepal and prevent those being lynched with sharp khukaries rather than thinking of annexing them ? Why should anyone want those Naxals? All of them are part of the Red Corridor, smugglers, money launderers and criminals. Almost all Nepali Muslims are Madesis.

    Do you know any thing about India and neighbourhood particularly demographic extension ?
    Nagas - both sides of border.
    Rohingyas -
    Chakmas (Tripura)
    Begalies
    Tamils
    Gujaratis
    Rajasthanis
    Punjabis
    Punchies
    Kashmiris
    Tibetans
    Nepalese

    Kis kis ko sambhaloge ? and where al will you annex. Your Bhaiya prem will not do.
     
  13. Bhumihar

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    Madhesi are 50% of Nepals population.
     
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    My theory to understand our complicated relations with Nepal

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    Small country syndrome


    Small countries have no independent foreign policy or any influence in international politics and they are basically defenseless in face of war against a big nation.

    Thus these small countries develop alliances with big regional or global power nation for security and trade. however unlike alliances between big nations these alliances aren't long term. These small countries change their alliance almost overnight depending on the whim of leader/dictator in power. :lol:

    These countries also have very interesting leadership who every now and then badmouth some big power in the world sometimes outright cuss words (eg. Duterte).:shock: This behavior is unimaginable for leaders of big nations.

    Besides bad mouthing another thing they try to do is pass some useless resolution or condemnation in UN, WTO or any other international forum against major powers. :biggrin2:

    This weird behavior of their leaders is seen by local population as "national pride" :doh: and "show of strength" :pound:


    USA understood this small country syndrome many decades ago thus they created EU to slowly merge all European nations into one giant powerhouse. (Which didn't workout as planned)


    In other parts of the world USA has invested heavily both in terms of capital and propaganda in small countries. Thinking such countries will never rise to the level of becoming a threat to them. Thus maintaining US led western world order.

    However with rise of China (economically) many small countries are now moving in other direction. Which is becoming a headache to west. They will topple regimes of some important small countries but they can't do it everywhere.


    Just like USA India too suffers from the same problems from small countries around it. in future many of these small countries (including Nepal) will run towards India for their security and trade.

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  16. IndianHawk

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    Good analysis . But Nepal is special as it is not just a geographical neighbor but a cultural brother.

    Half the Nepalis have extended family in India .
    A huge number is employed in India including in Indian army where they have a dedicated regiment.

    Border is open and since Indian rupee is acceptable in Nepal as legal currency Nepal and India are more closely Integrated than Germany and France in EU.

    They may have issues with India on economic matters and they might want to use china for economic growth. But India is family.

    If a Nepali picks up arms against India he will probably be fighting his brother or cousin or brother in law. Chinese can't comprehend these things.

    And I have not even mentioned religious connection. Kashi , badrinath are as sacred to any nepali as any indian.

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    People can be dehumanized and de-sensitized.

    When the chinese (Mao, Kissinger, Nixon) did the genocide in Cambodia they had so dehumanized the population that they were randomly using part of the population to brutally kill the rest. They even had the arrogance to call the killer section Khmer Rouge - it had nothing to do with the khmer empire. A lot of details of the Cambodia genocide were well documented in the Yale Genocide Project at Yale University but in the last few years it appears that a lot of the material has been removed. However, the NYT and some other publications had detail during the trial of some of the pol pot regime and the chap who ran the Tuol Sleng prison I think. Some of that material may still be on the internet.

    When the Maoists in Nepal were on their brutal killing spree they were killing fellow villagers, fellow Nepalis.

    When the Maoists in India kill and kill brutally it is fellow villagers, citi folk, countrymen that they kill in most dehumanizing ways

    And of course Pakis running genocides against so many groups

    And North Korean genocide, labor camps
     
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    IndianHawk Senior Member Senior Member

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    For that kind of hateful violence there have to be serious and long standing underlying issues.
    Nepali king and violence of royal family created long and deep simmering hatred among section of Nepali people hence Maoist succeeded but they couldn't hold onto power as the main issue was gone.

    What are the underlying issue with India and Nepal. No border conflict , no curbs on migration , no trade restrictions. No religious strife. It's just sibling rivalry at best. A resentment against the big brother being bossy at times. We need to be careful with that but everything else is manageable.

    When Modi visited pashupatinath as a devotee entire Nepal was very emotional.

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  19. EthanHunt

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    We have border dispute with nepal. Ever heard the kalapani dispute in UK and border dispute in bihar. Kalapani is strategically important for india against china.
     
  20. garg_bharat

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    India has made many mistakes in Nepal. India should have integrated Nepal economically long back. It is shortsightedness of India that India has ceded strategic space to China in Nepal.

    At the moment China is ascendant and nothing much can be done except watch.
     
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