India must accept enviable friendship between China and Pak

[rock127]

Bhai Jaan,

Two points I will make here..

1) Make sure China understand what a great sacrifice you are making... It should not be that next time Chine maintains a salience as it did in 65, 71 & 99...

2) Make sure you are in the position to help China... its should be that you disintegrate into several small parts just for your sacrifices for your friend China...

Specially in 1999 China said Pakis should maintain respect for LoC and Pakis should back off.

The one and only friend gave Pyar mei dhokha.

 

[bose]

very well said

but there are hindu extremist in india and one is to take to PMship next year banned throughout the world for killing muslim including in USA named narendra modi

they think China only mean a small country and tibet and many other region are not part of china.somehow they wil manage to stand against india when they are capable enough

to tacke the threat i am sure pakistan will engage into a war with india very soon.most probably within 2-3 years.and if it escalate to nuclear war..it iwll be a blesssing in disguise for china since we will leave them in condition of no return

china is a peaceful country and will remain so.but the problem is with the future of india.no wonder sri lanka,china,pakistan,bangladesh even now maldives has problem with them.

So a better think CHina should stay idle and build up itself against USA while leaving india to us alone.

If for argument shake if I take your point of view for once... then China will also find itself central to this nuclear war against India... we will send missile all around our neighborhood ... Pakistan, China, Middle East whoever stands against India in this holy war...

Make no mistake if India GOES DOWN IT WILL ALSO TAKE PAKISTAN, CHINA & ALL OF THE MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRIES ALONG WITH IT...

As I said earlier and would like to repeat again and again is China ready to make that sacrifice for you Pakistan??? Million dollar question"¦

 

[amoy]

If for argument shake if I take your point of view for once... then China will also find itself central to this nuclear war against India... we will send missile all around our neighborhood ... Pakistan, China, Middle East whoever stands against India in this holy war...

Make no mistake if India GOES DOWN IT WILL ALSO TAKE PAKISTAN, CHINA & ALL OF THE MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRIES ALONG WITH IT...

As I said earlier and would like to repeat again and again is China ready to make that sacrifice for you Pakistan??? Million dollar question"¦

Nobody wants any war in spite of warmongering whoopla. Let's call it a "peaceful competition".

Pakistan is very helpful for China's peaceful rise and in turn China wil continue doing whatever possible for Pakistan in the equal partnership, with or without India in the equation!

We'll live to see such engineering feats as >> Kashgar-Gwadar Railway and hopefully Iran-Pakistan-China pipeline

to tackle "Malacca dilemma" and boost West China

 

[bose]

Nobody wants any war in spite of warmongering whoopla. Let's call it a "peaceful competition".

There nothing as so called peaceful compettion...

Pakistan is very helpful for China's peaceful rise and in turn China wil continue doing whatever possible for Pakistan in the equal partnership, with or without India in the equation!

India is too big for China... India will continue to rival China in years to come...

We'll live to see such engineering feats as >> Kashgar-Gwadar Railway and hopefully Iran-Pakistan-China pipeline

to tackle "Malacca dilemma" and boost West China

nah ! no comparison to Malacca... 75 - 80 % of China's trade still goes through Malacca...

With the state of Chinese navy in the coming years... this Pakistani route will be more vulnerable to Indian & US navy in the vicinity... Chinese navy will struggle big time coming out of SCS"¦ they will be bogged down at SCS itself"¦

Moreover the insurgency in Baluchistan, Pakistan will make project implementation very difficult as part of peaceful competition"¦.

 

[RedDragon]

If for argument shake if I take your point of view for once... then China will also find itself central to this nuclear war against India... we will send missile all around our neighborhood ... Pakistan, China, Middle East whoever stands against India in this holy war...

Make no mistake if India GOES DOWN IT WILL ALSO TAKE PAKISTAN, CHINA & ALL OF THE MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRIES ALONG WITH IT...

As I said earlier and would like to repeat again and again is China ready to make that sacrifice for you Pakistan??? Million dollar question"¦

" ALL OF THE MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRIES ALONG WITH IT..."

Why you also add them in the list?

 

[amoy]

There nothing as so called peaceful compettion...

Alright, then I use back the term "Cold Peace" I coined myself.

India will rival China? Oh fine. But as this thread is about Sino-Pakistan friendship let's move on. Never put all eggs in one basket. Hence Sino-Burma oil/gas pipelines are to complete this May. With Gwadar Port program China will have an additional gateway.

See? There're many alternatives to Malacca.

As for internal insurgencies Pakistan certainly can handle. What abt India? Isn't India still doing great despite all that in Kashmir, in NE ?

 

[Virendra]

nah ! no comparison to Malacca... 75 - 80 % of China's trade still goes through Malacca...

With the state of Chinese navy in the coming years... this Pakistani route will be more vulnerable to Indian & US navy in the vicinity... Chinese navy will struggle big time coming out of SCS"¦ they will be bogged down at SCS itself"¦

Moreover the insurgency in Baluchistan, Pakistan will make project implementation very difficult as part of peaceful competition"¦.

Indeed. This ruote's feasibility analysis hasn't encouraged the Chinese a lot. We would see the Chinese more bullish on its projects otherwise.
By the way, how will the unemplyed Jihadi youth of Pakistan react, seeing Chinese laborers work on Chinese Infra projects passing through the heart of Pakistan.
Afterall, Chinese are not even the people of the book.

Regards,
Virendra

 

[bose]

Alright, then I use back the term "Cold Peace" I coined myself.

Fair enough...

India will rival China? Oh fine. But as this thread is about Sino-Pakistan friendship let's move on. Never put all eggs in one basket. Hence Sino-Burma oil/gas pipelines are to complete this May. With Gwadar Port program China will have an additional gateway.

See? There're many alternatives to Malacca.

As for internal insurgencies Pakistan certainly can handle. What abt India? Isn't India still doing great despite all that in Kashmir, in NE ?

The next big geo political game will be played in the same area from where the said pipeline will pass through Baluchistan Pakistan...

India has gained immensely in fighting this insurgency in multiple states... In NE IA has successfully finished them all...whatever is there are gasping for life"¦ we know who to cull those chickens.. Indian Army is now sharing the same experience in fighting jungle warfare with US and other western countries...

One thing I do not understand reading your map and the various oil pipeline routes at your disposal"¦ from where will you send your exports??? It cannot be through those same pipelines"¦ what is the use of oil imports without the safe route for Chinese other exports ??

 

[bose]

" ALL OF THE MIDDLE EASTERN COUNTRIES ALONG WITH IT..."

Why you also add them in the list?

Because they same middle eastern countries will support Pakistan just because they happend to share same religion...

 

[Shirman]

Rather than India to accept anything Pakis should accept enviable friendship between Israel, U.S. and India............and openly drag China for its human right violations on Uyghur Muslims and then LOL at Pakis..............

 

[amoy]

One thing I do not understand reading your map and the various oil pipeline routes at your disposal"¦ from where will you send your exports??? It cannot be through those same pipelines"¦ what is the use of oil imports without the safe route for Chinese other exports ??

Pls refer to my earlier posts such as Beidou Navigation Satellites which our ally is aboard too.

And the string of pearls including our ally's Gwadar where a naval base is possible.

All these contribute to safeguarding the sealane, needless to mention those railways are also alternatives for export.

And the threat to navigation freedom necessitates reliable allies en route. In case of being bogged down at SCS or Malacca, we still have Pakistan and Myanmar for alternatives.

Every great power has a few buddies, like US having Israel and Saudi. Now China has got Myanmar and Pakistan in IOR.

 

[bose]

Pls refer to my earlier posts such as Beidou Navigation Satellites which our ally is aboard too.

And the string of pearls including our ally's Gwadar where a naval base is possible.

Gwader will be an easy meat for Indian Navy... Pakistan does not stand any chance against Indian Navy... whereas Chinese Navy will not be able to come out of SCS... Chinese Navy will be too venerable against Indian & US navy... Remember US Navy is pulling out large number of ships from Atlantic to Pacific...

Japan is getting belligerent day by day"¦ In very near future Japan will start building upon whatever it has today"¦ Mind it Japan is a very different animal [no insult to Japan intended]"¦ All the countries Vietnam, Japan, Korea, Philippines, Malaysia and other under watchful eyes of US will ensure that China is pinned down at the SCS itself"¦

All these contribute to safeguarding the sealane, needless to mention those railways are also alternatives for export.

And the threat to navigation freedom necessitates reliable allies en route. In case of being bogged down at SCS or Malacca, we still have Pakistan and Myanmar for alternatives.

Every great power has a few buddies, like US having Israel and Saudi. Now China has got Myanmar and Pakistan in IOR.

Pakistan is a dead horse in this region... while Myanmar is slowly and surely tilting towards India & USA...

 

[roma]

notta problem

after le keqiuan has left, big N has to explain to his bosses

US ambassador, Indian high commissioner meet Nawaz – The Express Tribune

US ambassador, Indian high commissioner meet Nawaz
Published: May 24, 2013
Nawaz Sharif. PHOTO: FILE
LAHORE: American Ambassador to Pakistan Richard Olson and Indian High Commissioner Sharat Sabharwal met Pakistan Muslim League – Nawaz (PML-N) chief Nawaz Sharif on Friday, Express News reported.

 

[CCTV]

Gwader will be an easy meat for Indian Navy... Pakistan does not stand any chance against Indian Navy... whereas Chinese Navy will not be able to come out of SCS... Chinese Navy will be too venerable against Indian & US navy... Remember US Navy is pulling out large number of ships from Atlantic to Pacific...

Japan is getting belligerent day by day"¦ In very near future Japan will start building upon whatever it has today"¦ Mind it Japan is a very different animal [no insult to Japan intended]"¦ All the countries Vietnam, Japan, Korea, Philippines, Malaysia and other under watchful eyes of US will ensure that China is pinned down at the SCS itself"¦




Pakistan is a dead horse in this region... while Myanmar is slowly and surely tilting towards India & USA...

Well, India will be a easy meat then.

 

[bose]

Well, India will be a easy meat then.

So as China !!

 

[datguy79]

Well, India will be a easy meat then.

You couldn't even beat Vietnam!

The amount of mental gymnastics by some fora users is astounding. Everyone likes their country, but coherent debate should come first.

 

[t_co]

Fair enough...



The next big geo political game will be played in the same area from where the said pipeline will pass through Baluchistan Pakistan...

India has gained immensely in fighting this insurgency in multiple states... In NE IA has successfully finished them all...whatever is there are gasping for life"¦ we know who to cull those chickens.. Indian Army is now sharing the same experience in fighting jungle warfare with US and other western countries...

One thing I do not understand reading your map and the various oil pipeline routes at your disposal"¦ from where will you send your exports??? It cannot be through those same pipelines"¦ what is the use of oil imports without the safe route for Chinese other exports ??

Trying to block Chinese exports would piss off important business constituencies in nations around the world. Remember that exports only happen once somebody has paid the exporter; so that somebody has to take a loss when the goods don't end up in the dock, as the contracted delivery will be written off under the legal principle of force majeure. E.g. would India piss off GE, Apple, and all the other western multinationals just to bother Chinese exports in the IOR?

 

[roma]

Trying to block Chinese exports would piss off important business constituencies in nations around the world. Remember that exports only happen once somebody has paid the exporter; so that somebody has to take a loss when the goods don't end up in the dock, as the contracted delivery will be written off under the legal principle of force majeure. E.g. would India piss off GE, Apple, and all the other western multinationals just to bother Chinese exports in the IOR?

when our mr n gave you totally undeserved credit to be a member of humanity, of the UN - which you weren't worthy of , it has now become the first advice ( the beginning ) of your last opportunity to be a part of humanity . From now on the whole world will view you ( if you do not make serious amends, ) as the worst offender of humanity - yes FAR worse than the germans or the japanese ( who have reformed themselves )

but why worry ? - it's not important ..................unless you want to become a part of humanity !

our mr N tried to make you part of the human race - and you bit his hand off - being the true canine that you are !

- dont worry your boasting that you humiliated india in the 62 war makes your treachery all the more known - the inhumanity that you inflicted on the tibetans and the lack of reciprocity to our mr n ....................- for all that , you are no longer part of the human race !!! ....miss world , miss universe etc, dont bother to take a second , not even a first look

- and the whole world hates you ! yes they do fear you - and hate you as well ! .... just that it is not necessary to speak it out loud when you do their menial work work for them - after all, why should anyone beat their servant ?, especially when the west has renounced slavery !

~ you think your manufacturing and economic growth will buy you a place in humanity ?

hah ! ....

 

[MAYURA]

Because they same middle eastern countries will support Pakistan just because they happend to share same religion...

It is not just because but it is basis of their identity.

 

[CCTV]

when our mr n gave you totally undeserved credit to be a member of humanity, of the UN - which you weren't worthy of , it has now become the first advice ( the beginning ) of your last opportunity to be a part of humanity . From now on the whole world will view you ( if you do not make serious amends, ) as the worst offender of humanity - yes FAR worse than the germans or the japanese ( who have reformed themselves )

but why worry ? - it's not important ..................unless you want to become a part of humanity !

our mr N tried to make you part of the human race - and you bit his hand off - being the true canine that you are !

- dont worry your boasting that you humiliated india in the 62 war makes your treachery all the more known - the inhumanity that you inflicted on the tibetans and the lack of reciprocity to our mr n ....................- for all that , you are no longer part of the human race !!! ....miss world , miss universe etc, dont bother to take a second , not even a first look

- and the whole world hates you ! yes they do fear you - and hate you as well ! .... just that it is not necessary to speak it out loud when you do their menial work work for them - after all, why should anyone beat their servant ?, especially when the west has renounced slavery !

~ you think your manufacturing and economic growth will buy you a place in humanity ?

hah ! ....

FYI lady,
China is a charter member of the United Nations and one of five permanent members of the Security Council. China originally joined as Republic of China (ROC) on October 24, 1945. ROC was also a member of the League of Nations.
China and the United Nations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

At that time, there is not a country called India in the world.