India loses on Sri Lankan battleground

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  1. Illusive

    Illusive Senior Member Senior Member

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    Buddhism is like atheistic religion. Its peaceful nature can be very dangerous for itself if a barbaric people/religion tend to harm and use this peaceful nature to their advantage.

    I think Buddhism came way too early for its time.
     
  2. HeinzGud

    HeinzGud Senior Member Senior Member

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    They don't worship Buddha. Merely showing their gratitude. Just like one greet his teacher or elder.
     
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    HeinzGud Senior Member Senior Member

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    Buddhism is not atheistic. Buddha doesn't negate the fact about the god's presence. Gods are irrelevant to his teachings.

    What are you saying? How come barbaric people use the peaceful nature of Buddhism to their advantage?
     
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    Illusive Senior Member Senior Member

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    So Agnostic? but god is irrelevant.

    Well it like this, the more a culture tend to be peaceful, its more likely to have weak military or less expansionist attitude since violence is forbidden and war looked down upon.
     
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    Illusive Senior Member Senior Member

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    On topic though, any investment to SL is good for all as long as these investments aren't a security threat to India.

    There's a saying right " When elephants fight, its the grass that suffers".

    Hopefully the grass is wise :biggrin2:
     
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    amoy Senior Member Senior Member

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    There have been very martial Buddhist powers, like Burma, and Siam (Thai), which were vying for regional dominance with one another. Siam also fought with Vietnam for suzernity over Khmer (Cambodian) kingdoms. Notably Siam was one of few Asian states that maintained de jure independence along with China and Japan in the 20th Century.

    Buddhism has become a cultural bond among South Asian nations - China, Manjushree and the Legend of Kathmandu Valley

    And in China Mount. Wutai is referred to as the abode of Mañjuśrī in the Avataṃsaka Sūtra.

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    Illusive Senior Member Senior Member

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    Isn't violence against the teachings of Buddha. I mean how do you protect dharma and not go against the teaching of Buddha is the question. The above examples didn't face Islamic invasion.
     
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    sasum Atheist but not Communists. Senior Member

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    Your own country's famous shaolin temple is the fountainhead of violent martial arts. Buddhist monks all over the world are lion-tamers. I have seen in a "Discovery" documentary, how young buddhist monks tame Manchurian Tigers to so extent that the animals obey their masters like pet dogs. And this is not done by drugging the animals like they do in Circus.
     
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    amoy Senior Member Senior Member

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    Wrong! Siam wrestled with Malay sultans (Islamic) for a long time, and Thailand holds ground up to date -
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    But still South Thailand insurgency


    Shaolin became prominent since its monks saved a prince of Tang Dynasty in an escape before his ascent to the throne.

    In fact the founder of Ming Dynasty once was a buddhist monk. Born into a desperately poor peasant family, he became an orphan after a plague thus had to seek shelter in a monastery until he joined uprisings against Yuan (Mongolian) oppressions. He learned to read and write during the time he spent with the Buddhist monks.
     
  10. HariPrasad-1

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    And hided by SL trolls supporters of their cruel army.

    Yes we came to your rescue. LTTE bombed your air base and wipped many plane out. When they attempted second time, we shoot down their plane. We have to send peace keeping forces as you were not capable to handle LTTE.
    Yes, once in special circumstances because these terrorist were supported by other countries they had supplied a lots of war weapon such as anti tank missiles etc. Police can not fight with them with guns. In additions to that , they were hidden in a very sacred place and we had to rescue civilians without any harm. Police can not do that. these were the circumstances which led us to use army. In No normal circumstance we use army to bomb our militant group who are Indian. Army can go and bomb them but they will not do that.

    We do not have any issue with china helping you provided that is not against our security interest. China is working on a strategy of string of pearls to encircle india. They need a pawn like SL in south. Allowing chinese submarine to station at SL ports is a hostile act and we reserve the right to take appropriate action. We have already extended our hand of friendship. We are sending sarcc satellite. We can invest in SL so as other country but if you allow China to build port and operate from there, we have the right to take necessary action to ensure our security. We have been the peaceful neighbors from centuries. We need to respect each other's concern. If you go against that and do any act that may harm our security than you are going to pay for that.
     
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    HariPrasad-1 Senior Member Senior Member

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    No body is discussing the world's one of the fastest growing city Surat. It has surpassed all cities in per capita income and going to surpass all cities in GDP next 6 years except Bombay, Delhi and Calcutta.
     
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    I just wonder how much respect Sri Lankan can feel from these words. How would an Indian response if someone says the same words?
     
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    Respect is not necessarily earned with "sweet talks". Those who loose a touch of reality will certainly suffer. We are certainly not doing diplomacy on this forum.

    Sri Lanka is too small to threaten India, and will end up being banged by the allies and the enemies alike who will fight till the last Sri Lankan.
     
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    HariPrasad-1 Senior Member Senior Member

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    Here it is not a question of respecting or not respecting. These are facts and realities with which we have to deal with. A parallel analogy can not be drawn because both countries are vastly different in size power and economy. I am just recommending to respect the concern of neighbors so that we may take forward our centuries long friendship. We have helped SL and ready to help them further. SL should response positively to our worries and concerns.
     
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    Not agnostic. Buddha has not denied the presence of gods. There are places he has acknowledged the presence of the gods. But his teachings doesn't concern about Gods. According to Buddhist teaching Gods are like humans but with more opulence and luxury.
     
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    Buddha's teachings doesn't also go well with politics. Killing any being is wrong according to Buddhism. But for greater good some has to kill to protect others. That's a sacrifice some has to make.
     
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    Bro, who cares about Religion today? Kill or familiar as of your convenience.
    Most of Indians on this forum are either agnostic or atheists(except some Bhakts). :p
     
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    So, you are suggesting: because of the reality of India is way beyond Sri Lanka's size and power, Sri Lanka
    must respect India's concern while India doesn't need to respect Sri Lanka's sovereignty?

    But I haven't seen any Indian officials or Indian member here propose anything detail about this kind of "helping".
    India should response positively to your neighbour's need. In other words, it is time to open your cheque book.
     
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    garg_bharat Senior Member Senior Member

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    You worship Buddha like a God; which is forbidden in Veda.

    What BS you speak. Buddha is a dead man. making statue of a dead man and offering flowers is statue worship.

    It is same as making statue of Ram.

    All Buddhists are idol worshippers.
     
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    HariPrasad-1 Senior Member Senior Member

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    Have I said that? When did india denounce the sovereignty of Srilanka? How ever any response by any country to any issue shall be according to its strength. If you have 2 same issues with maldiv and US than both won't respond the issue in same manner. This is called a strategy. childish question like what you raise are irrelevant ,
    haven't we we helped Nepal as if the calamity has taken place in any indian state?

    Nepal minister said that Indian help was like a blank cheque. We offered the help to Pakistan in case of flood. We have helped BD in past. Whole Bhutan's medical sector run with indian help. We helped SL to get rid of terrorism. We are helping Afghanistan. Many many tibetan refugees have taken asylum in india. In fact who have not taken asylum in india starting from Europeans to Africans and Asians, jews. We have helped them all but they failed to respond positively. We gave Pakistan whatever they wanted. 55 crore rupees, River water according to their wish etc. However this thank less uncivilized nation always tried to harm India. We saved BD from the greatest genocide of the century and rape. We sacrifised 4000 soldiers for them. More than 2 crore BD intruders have come in India AND NOT GOING BACK. We have always help Nepal and Bhutan. We have helped Srilanka. However most of these nations have failed to respond positively on india's Favor. If they forget our favor and try to help that expansionist china, we have a right to protect our interest.

    Let me tell you a real story. At the time of WW II, a ship full of a national (Europe country. I have forgotten the name. I will provide the same as soon as I remember) came to the cost of Gujarat. Nobody was ready to give asylum. Our Jamnagar king well comed them. He vacated his palace for them to leave. He Made a school for their children. They lived here peacefully for years until there was a peace in Europe. They left for their country then.
     
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